Saudi King: Oil Prices Should Be Much Higher

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TAREK EL-TABLAWY and ADAM SCHRECK | November 29, 2008 02:47 PM EST | AP

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Saudi oil minister Ali al-Naimi is surrounded by journalists during the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC) meeting in Cairo, Egypt, Saturday, Nov.29, 2008. OPEC oil ministers downplayed expectations of, but didn't dismiss outright, an immediate output cut as they faced a third test in as many months of their ability to engineer a rebound in oil prices. (AP Photo/Amr Nabil)

CAIRO, Egypt — OPEC held off on announcing new oil output cuts on Saturday, but its alarm over falling demand and a slumping economy potentially laid the groundwork for a big reduction when it meets again in a matter of weeks.

Chakib Khelil, Algeria's oil minister and the group's president, said the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries ministers noted "with concern the continued deterioration of the global economic situation and its impact on oil demand."

The ministers, he said in a statement, agreed to "take any additional action ... to balance oil supply and demand, and achieve market stability" during their Dec. 17 extraordinary meeting in Oran, Algeria.

The outcome of Saturday's meeting in Cairo, convened about a month after the group decided to pull 1.5 million barrels per day of oil from the market, seemed unlikely to put a floor beneath crude prices that have fallen by around 60 percent from their mid-July highs of $147 per barrel.

Saudi Arabia, the 13-member organization's top exporter and kingpin, broke with its usual silence about specific prices and cited $75 per barrel as a favorable target. King Abdullah, in an interview with a Kuwaiti newspaper published Saturday, said that would be a "fair price" _ a message echoed by his top oil official in Cairo.

"Eventually, if we want the marginal producer to produce and help the world supply, then we need to give them a better price," Saudi Oil Minister Ali Naimi said.

But it was unclear how the group _ supplier of 40 percent of the world's crude _ could realize that target soon, given the lack of action at Saturday's meeting.

Some analysts questioned the wisdom of waiting in light of the current weak oil prices.

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"Another dumb move by OPEC, unless of course they want lower crude oil prices," said Vincent Lauerman, OPEC expert and president of the Calgary, Canada-based consultancy Geopolitics Central.

Ahead of the meeting, the U.S. benchmark light, sweet crude futures contract settled a penny lower Friday at $54.43 in an abbreviated session on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Others said the decision may have been a way for the group to push through a larger cut at the Algeria meeting.

Viewed in this light, the lack of a decision may be a strategic one aimed at preventing the group from suffering the same outcome it saw after the Oct. 24 Vienna meeting: Cut now and see prices fall again could further undercut its credibility, analysts said.

"They want to do everything they can to support prices, but do it in a way they can save face," said Phil Flynn, an oil analyst at Alaron Trading Corp. in Chicago. He expects the group to implement a cut of as much as 1.5 million barrels in Algeria next month.

If the Cairo gathering did not net a cut, it allowed the group to present a united front before a market that has recently been shrugging off their complaints about low prices.

Members were eager to brush aside persistent concerns that some countries fail to adhere to the production quotas OPEC has said it needs to be effective.

"We are assuming that everyone will be compliant _ hopefully 100 percent compliant," said Qatari Oil Minister Abdullah Bin Hamad al-Attiya. "Don't take me to the past, take me to the future."

In general, the oil ministers seemed optimistic about compliance with the previous round of cuts, announced in Vienna. Khelil put it at about 85 percent, others said 100 percent.

Venezuela has been one of the countries cited as being more liberal with its production _ a charge its oil minister denied on Saturday.

"Venezuela is fully compliant with the last cut decision in October," said Rafael Ramirez. "Venezuela's view is OPEC's view. We have to have a million barrels a day production (cut). But we have to wait for December."

Heading into the meeting, Khelil, the group's president, said a key aim was to assess the impact of previous reductions, while further studying the market and the impact the global economic meltdown was having on steadily falling oil demand.

He stressed the same point after the meeting, telling reporters that the current volatility merited a measure of caution and the need to wait until Algeria for a decision. The exit of speculators, who OPEC has said were the main reason behind the prices spikes earlier this year, will add some clarity to the oil market, he said.

"Now, we have real fundamentals," said Khelil, who added that the group is concerned about too much supply in the market and the difficulty some producers have in finding buyers.

Analysts said delaying a decision also gives prices room to deflate further, putting increased pressure on large nonmembers such as Russia to agree to join OPEC in any future production cuts while helping ensure compliance among its own members.

"It's easier to push other OPEC countries to comply if they start to see that yes, we could go lower," said Olivier Jakob of Petromatrix in Zug, Switzerland.

Russia has already indicated it backs OPEC's efforts to boost prices, though many in the market have questioned whether the oil giant would be willing to implement cuts of its own at a time when it sorely needs oil revenue.

Several OPEC ministers voiced hope that other oil producers would work more closely with the bloc, with Qatar's al-Attiya saying that "at the end of the day we need the help of everybody, including non-OPEC countries."

"Because if we produce oil and no one buys it, this is a concern. And this is what we're seeing today," he said.

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Associated Press Writer Hadeel al-Shalchi contributed to this report.

CAIRO, Egypt — OPEC held off on announcing new oil output cuts on Saturday, but its alarm over falling demand and a slumping economy potentially laid the groundwork for a big reduction when it m...
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He's out of luck and cash for tht new $40,000,000.00 sports car...Back to selling Dates and Camels to pilgrims going to Mecca...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 12/06/2008
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"Saudi King: Oil Prices Should Be Much Higher"

When oil prices are high, alternative fuels and means of transportation come out of the woodwork.
The greedier the OPEC countries become, the quicker it hastens their demise, their irrelevancy. They'll fade back into the sands of time.....buh bye!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 12/04/2008

What greedy pigs the oil producers are! We should mandate the installation of technology in all US vehicles to introduce hydrogen gas to augment the efficiency the combustion in their engines because I'd like to hear the Saudi King's squeal when we stopped importing oil. Note, for those interested in finding out more, one good example of this technology is the system produced by Hydrorunner, Inc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 12/01/2008

Or, you could just buy a Prius... unlike the "technology" from Hydrospammer, Inc. a Prius will really get you close to 50mpg.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 12/01/2008

I'd love to see a detailed independent report saying something negative about the technology. I've heard too many positive (but admittedly scientically unverified) things about this technoly to dismiss it out of hand on just your say so. Please post the URL of such a report, if you know of one, that proves this is all bunk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 12/04/2008

May a 1000 camels sh#t on your head oh Saudi King !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 11/30/2008
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We fed OPEC's greed with our big cars and toys created with petroleum by-products. I remember the Shah of Iran going on and on to Barbara Walters about "Americans and their two cars, blah, blah, etc, etc, etc." Until we change our lifestyles, we will not lose our dependance on oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 11/30/2008
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Yup.

We need to get rid of the automobile as the main method of transportation.

Only way to do this is to tax imported oil and put the revenue to use building a good mass transit system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 11/30/2008
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"Saudi King: Oil Prices Should Be Much Higher"

Oh, REALLY.....
And, you, sir, should be MUCH poorer.

Ups and downs....it's called life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UThvVjolXk

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 11/30/2008

I guess the king needs another gold plated BMW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 11/30/2008

To be honest the living standards in Saudi Arabia having been slowly going down for a long time so he's probably afraid of the religious fundamentalists tearing his country apart. Of course, when you build a nation on a foundation of Wahhabism this is what you get...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 12/01/2008
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as you can see I didn't proof read my post

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 11/30/2008
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where I live we still use returnable3 bottles for some things. I buy my case of beer that way, also I don't like my bee in cans or even less in plastic bottles

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 11/30/2008

I think oil prices should be higher,at least the incentive will be there to seriously make alternative energy a matter of national policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 11/30/2008

Raise the gas tax. Gas is $2.00 a gallon now. If they raised the gas tax by $1.00 a gallon, it would be $3.00, which is less than it was just a few months ago. Raising the gas tax like this will generate a lot of badly needed government revenue, stimulate development of high-mileage vehicles, and help to stabilize the crazy bouncing oil prices that are messing up the economy. Higher oil prices can be accomodated by the economy.

The current bouncing fuel prices put swaths of businesses in jeopardy with each swing. For example, the trucking business is always hit hard when there is an upward price spike in fuel, because they often do not have the bargaining power to put fuel price surcharges in their contracts. There is a lot of competition, so the profits are relatively low.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 AM on 11/30/2008

I hope Obama doesn't cow tow to OPEC. Enough of these people and their hold on the world's oil production and prices.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 11/29/2008

The only way to do that is to stop buying their stuff. Energy independence!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 AM on 11/30/2008

Cabbage don't grow very well in sand........... I drive....U eat!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 11/29/2008
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Hmm,... I hope we Americans do our indivudual best to make sure that, no matter the desired selling price by OPEC member nations of Oil - they sit on large quantites of it until they rot.

Conserve, conserve, conserve more where possible,... and get off oil as a primary transportation fuel ASAP.

Then,... let the Princes of Saudi Arabia try and buy off their people and the extremists they fund without our Western Dollars.

My guess,.. they will find themselves out of power sooner rather than later.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 11/29/2008
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I agree with the corrupt stinking king of Saudi Arabia. His oil should be much higher because the higher the oil is the more our country is motivated to tell him to take that oil and stick it where the sun don't shine. It makes me physically ill to be subjugated to these morons. I have done everything in my power..purchased more fuel efficient vehicles and even bought an electric scooter to drive to work. We need to get as far away from the tyrannical dimwits and let their desert empire crumble without US dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 11/29/2008

The Saudis should seek much higher prices for their valuable oil.

If they were smart they'd leave their oil in the ground and "set a spell".

Americans are terminal stage addicts without a clue!

"alternative energy"??? give me a break!

Take away foreign oil and America will crumble like the flimsy house of cards it has become.

All of the people here blaming Saudis for their own gluttony. That's rich!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 11/29/2008
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