Indian Police: Pakistani Militants Behind Mumbai Massacre

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RAVI NESSMAN | November 30, 2008 11:44 PM EST | AP

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In this Nov. 26, 2008 file photo, a gunman identified by police as Ajmal Qasab walks at the Chatrapathi Sivaji Terminal railway station in Mumbai, India. Qasab, the only gunman captured after a 60-hour terrorist siege of Mumbai said he belonged to a Pakistani militant group with links to the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir, a senior police officer said Sunday Nov. 30, 2008. (AP Photo/Mumbai Mirror, Sebastian D'souza, File)

MUMBAI, India — Authorities finished removing bodies from the bullet-and-grenade-scarred Taj Mahal hotel Monday, the final site of the Mumbai siege to be cleared, and said the death toll from the attack stood at 172 killed.

Security forces were scouring the 565 room hotel for booby traps and bodies, and declared the landmark building cleared two days after they killed the last three militants holed up inside following a deadly, three-day rampage in India's financial center.

"We were apprehensive about more bodies being found. But this is not likely _ all rooms in the Taj have been opened and checked," said Maharashtra state government spokesman Bhushan Gagrani.

The army had already cleared two other sites, the five-star Oberoi hotel and the headquarters of an ultra-Orthodox Jewish Center.

The only gunman captured after the 60-hour terrorist siege of Mumbai said he belonged to a Pakistani militant group with links to the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir, a senior police officer said.

The gunman was one of 10 who paralyzed the city in an attack that killed at least 172 people and wounded 239 and revealed the weakness of India's security apparatus. India's top law enforcement official resigned Sunday, bowing to growing criticism that the attackers appeared better trained, better coordinated and better armed than police.

The announcement blaming militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, threatened to escalate tensions between India and Pakistan. However, Indian officials have been cautious about accusing Pakistan's government of complicity.

Lashkar, long seen as a creation of the Pakistani intelligence service to help fight India in disputed Kashmir, was banned in Pakistan in 2002 under pressure from the U.S., a year after Washington and Britain listed it a terrorist group. It is since believed to have emerged under another name, Jamaat-ud-Dawa, though that group has denied links to the Mumbai attack.

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As more details of the response to the attack emerged, a picture formed of woefully unprepared security forces.

"These guys could do it next week again in Mumbai and our responses would be exactly the same," said Ajai Sahni, head of the New Delhi-based Institute for Conflict Management who has close ties to India's police and intelligence.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh promised to strengthen maritime and air security and look into creating a new federal investigative agency.

Joint Police Commissioner Rakesh Maria said the only known surviving gunman, Ajmal Qasab, told police he was trained at a Lashkar-e-Taiba camp in Pakistan.

"Lashkar-e-Taiba is behind the terrorist acts in the city," he said.

A spokesman for Pakistani President Asif Zardari's spokesman dismissed the claim.

"We have demanded evidence of the complicity of any Pakistani group. No evidence has yet been provided," said spokesman Farhatullah Babar.

In the first wave of the attacks, two young gunmen armed with assault rifles blithely ignored more than 60 police officers patrolling the city's main train station and sprayed bullets into the crowd.

Bapu Thombre, assistant commissioner with the Mumbai railway police, said the police were armed mainly with batons or World War I-era rifles and spread out across the station.

"They are not trained to respond to major attacks," he said.

The gunmen continued their rampage outside the station. They eventually ambushed a police van, killed five officers inside _ including the city's counterterrorism chief _ and hijacked the vehicle as two wounded officers lay bleeding in the back seat.

"The way Mumbai police handled the situation, they were not combat ready," said Jimmy Katrak, a security consultant. "You don't need the Indian army to neutralize eight to nine people."

Constable Arun Jadhav, one of the wounded policemen, said the men laughed when they noticed the dead officers wore bulletproof vests.

With no SWAT team in this city of 18 million, authorities called in the only unit in the country trained to deal with such crises. But the National Security Guards, which largely devotes its resources to protecting top officials, is based outside of New Delhi and it took the commandos nearly 10 hours to reach the scene.

That gave the gunmen time to consolidate control over two luxury hotels and a Jewish center, said Sahni.

As the siege dragged on, local police improperly strapped on ill-fitting bulletproof vests. Few had two-way radios to communicate.

Even the commandos lacked night vision goggles and thermal sensors that would have allowed them to locate the hostages and gunmen inside the buildings, Sahni said.

Security forces announced they had killed four gunmen and ended the siege at the mammoth Taj Mahal hotel on Thursday night, only to have fighting erupt there again the next day. Only on Saturday morning did they actually kill the last remaining gunmen.

At the Jewish center, commandos rappelled from a helicopter onto the roof and slowly descended the narrow, five-story building in a 10-hour shooting and grenade battle with the two gunmen inside.

From his home in Israel, Assaf Hefetz, a former Israeli police commissioner who created the country's police anti-terror unit three decades ago, watched the slow-motion operation in disbelief.

The commandos should have swarmed the building in a massive, coordinated attack that would have overwhelmed the gunmen and ended the standoff in seconds, he said.

"You have to come from the roof and all the windows and all the doors and create other entrances by demolition charges," he said.

The slow pace of the operations made it appear that the commandos' main goal was to stay safe, Hefetz said.

J. K. Dutt, director-general of the commando unit, defended their tactics.

"We have conducted the operation in the way we are trained and in the way we like to do it," he said.

Singh promised to expand the commando force and set up new bases for it around the country. He called a rare meeting of leaders from the country's main political parties, hours after the resignation of Home Minister Shivraj Patil.

Among the foreigners killed in the coordinated shooting rampage in India's financial capital were six Americans. The dead also included Germans, Canadians, Israelis and nationals from Britain, Italy, Japan, China, Thailand, Australia and Singapore.

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Associated Press reporters Anita Chang and Ramola Talwar Badam contributed to this report from Mumbai, Ashok Sharma contributed from New Delhi and Asif Shahzad from Islamabad, Pakistan.

MUMBAI, India — Authorities finished removing bodies from the bullet-and-grenade-scarred Taj Mahal hotel Monday, the final site of the Mumbai siege to be cleared, and said the death toll from th...
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- SColbert I'm a Fan of SColbert 12 fans permalink
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All the attackers are from Pakistan. What else does India really need to go to war with Pakistan?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hd0iJPtb1jlhk0O6pShhqmCOcKSA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 12/01/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 147 fans permalink

A good deal of common sense.

Lets have a war between two of the most densely populated countries on earth. Let's have EVERYONE suffer.

Everyone, that is EXCEPT those responsible.

And just for grins, let us throw nuclear weapons into the mix.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 12/01/2008
- riafern I'm a Fan of riafern 3 fans permalink

whe US was attacked the terrorist shaved their beards wore cologn etc ...so what is the big deal if they wore the hindu sacred thread ,it is an attempt to blend in ...why do all that come as you are & we wil respond appropriately .....cowards .....what happened in Kargil ....why attack in the dark on civilians ...
face the army...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 11/30/2008
- SColbert I'm a Fan of SColbert 12 fans permalink
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It doesn't even look like hindu sacred thread. Its probably a bracelet or something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 12/01/2008

Since you are a bit incredulous as to the Indian involvement it should be interesting to know they did something similarly recently. Now you have to ask yourself why?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/india-uncovers-hindu-terror-group-that-carried-out-bombings-blamed-on-islamists-14076306.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 12/01/2008
- riafern I'm a Fan of riafern 3 fans permalink

terrorist are trained & financed by men in the caves in Pakistan ...no amt of pointing finger at India will change that ....get a job & work like the rest of us ....killing is easy ...
living in peace takes discipline & comapassion .....
like we are mad at our politicians ,will the moderat pakistanis be able to rise & demand a change ..
we just voted for our change in USA ,when will Pakistan catch up with the rest of the world ...
I do not want to ride on donkeys & live in caves like OBL & the gang ,ever
so I oppose Jihadist .....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 11/30/2008

10 guys? really? 10.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 11/30/2008
- poster1122 I'm a Fan of poster1122 29 fans permalink

Remember the damage a couple of guys did in Oklahoma City? Free societies tend to have an over-abundance of soft targets. I'm sure the streets of Pyongyang would be reasonably safe from this type of assault.

But spread a dozen guys simultaneously across a sprawling, chatoic metropolis like Mumbai and have them take hostages while going on their rampage; this just isn't something that most free societies are prepared for. For example, it took India how long to get their special forces on the scene?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 11/30/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 147 fans permalink

Americans do this to ourselves all the time. Usually with lone gunmen like Virginia Tech. So the numbers don't add up as quickly.

But the AK 47 and ammunition can be purchases in any gun show, anywhere in the USA.

And I would bet there are people at the shows who can get you grenades. For the right price. With no questions asked.

Pretty scary isn't it. when you stop to think about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 12/01/2008
- riafern I'm a Fan of riafern 3 fans permalink

off course you are whining ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 11/30/2008
- riafern I'm a Fan of riafern 3 fans permalink

To sburney ,You sound like a moderate Pakistani ,how nice to read your comments ,what if we coudl throw all our politicians aside & live peacefully ...But in the real world there are grps that have been trained by ISI & India will have to do something about it ...but with this in mind that we shoudl never attack civilians and set a good eg of what Indians are like ,tough enough to protect & compassionate enough to take care of its neighbours
Strangely I was working in Dubai & we had Indian christians ,muslims & hindus plus staff from LOC & pakistan & we all got along just fine ...
Worked in Singapore & the Malayasian Muslims are very nice
In Mumbai I was training at the Ambassodor when the serial blast of 1993 happened , so many muslims were terrified about what woudl happen to them ...
Lets rid the world of idiots who fight in the name of religion ...BTW my hubby is a moderate muslim while I am christian ...so no bias in any comment of mine ...I just want people to live & let live ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 11/30/2008

What is in Kashmir that is so important to these people?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 11/30/2008
- vishix I'm a Fan of vishix 8 fans permalink
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Would you let Russia take Alaska by force? Well think of Kashmir as Alaska but with history and scenic beauty that will take your breath away. And a Population greater than 600,000 :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 11/30/2008
- SColbert I'm a Fan of SColbert 12 fans permalink
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Kashmir belongs to India. Thats why its important to Indians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 12/01/2008
- larry278 I'm a Fan of larry278 50 fans permalink

Ravi, have you reviewed how New York City, Northern Va, the Feds & DC handled 9/11/01? The live feeds from Mumbai showed pro-active, competent Indian forces responding in a competent, resolute way. Yes, a lot of weaponry was locked away & went unused since India hadn't trained its forces to use it due to a chronic lack of funds. India could get a USA like chaos if it uses US Homeland Security funding methods to retrain railway police & other 1st responders & equip them with 21st century equipment.
Didn't some of India's forces get more adequate firearms, other equipment, organization & training after India's war with China when the Jalal's went to war with single shot pre-WW I arms, etc.? This could be another instance when technicques developed by 21st century Indian people will be much better than what the USA & Europe use. Tata & Mittal are showing up the inadequate structure of US & European firms.
Ease off on Mumbai's heroes. They did a world class job with what they had on hand. The were adaptable & pro-active.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 11/30/2008
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

India, you've been attacked and disrespected.
Take your time with your response, but RESPOND; do not let these animals get away with it.
You must show that you are to be respected; diplomacy can come later.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 11/30/2008
- JerryG1 I'm a Fan of JerryG1 4 fans permalink

Seek not vengeance against an entire country or religion or people.

Seek precise justice, protection and defeat against the guilty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 11/30/2008
- gevan I'm a Fan of gevan 19 fans permalink

Like we did with Saddam.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 11/30/2008
- JerryG1 I'm a Fan of JerryG1 4 fans permalink

Right.
(Don't get me started.)
And, as many others have done, and do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 11/30/2008
- sparkey I'm a Fan of sparkey 10 fans permalink
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I remember watching a movie called 'Wargames' where Joshua tried several different places that fired off nukes. One of them was either India or Pakistan firing the first strike. Didn't take long before it went worldwide. Strange how a movie might have just predicted the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 11/30/2008

Indians and Pakistanis are being played. They want the pakistani government to send all its troops from the western front(Afghanistan) to the eastern front(India) so they can raid Afghanistan from even more territory. No one should listen to the hate coming from all directions. You need to concentrate on why they did this. Then understand that both nations should keep the peace. The world does not need this war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 11/30/2008
- Machu I'm a Fan of Machu 2 fans permalink

And yes..as long as Hindus keep dying it would suit your "Peace" just fine!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 11/30/2008
- pakiman I'm a Fan of pakiman 8 fans permalink

what about all the muslims who died and the oppression of both muslims and christians in india?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 11/30/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 147 fans permalink

What is the goal of the terrorists? They are not out just to kill people. They have political goals they hope to achieve.

I think you are probably right.

India needs to keep a cool head and focus on the real problems. Not use this incident for payback.

They have an excellent example of stupidity in the actions of Bush/Cheney. Don't follow their lead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 11/30/2008
- Jan pumper I'm a Fan of Jan pumper 2 fans permalink

What a sham! this is so funny, i watched a youtube video a few months ago predicting this very situation in which if Obama wins, some how they would find a clever way to put nations against one another to go into Pakistan, now i am watching it play out right in front of my eyes like a bad dream. How convenient, 1 gun man was captured and he spilled the beans on Pakistan. Who knows if the others are even dead, after all this is the media, they can tell you whatever, you can't disprove them, so if they say the others are dead, they are and the world will believe it. This was one predictable and pathetic operation on behalf of divide and conquer strategy. You guys think you elected the "Savior" of democracy, when all you were given was the same ideology rapped up with a shiny new face lift. I can't believe people are still asleep! well, i guess only the enlightened are illuminated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 11/30/2008
- vishix I'm a Fan of vishix 8 fans permalink
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DON'T turn this into a joke or some conspiracy theory involving the States! Not everything is about America. This is an internal matter between India and Pakistan. If you knew any history you would understand the complex nature of the history.

You know almost 200 people died? Stop with the conspiracy theories! I am curious how old are you? You sound like a teenager. Terrorism is real and Pakistan is at the root of it. There's no deep conspiracy here. The only way to stop it is for India to take out the terrorists in Pakistan; if that means invasion so be it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 11/30/2008

Liberals claim Americans are ignorant, and then prove it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 11/30/2008

It is convenient that's for sure. Come Jan. we'll find out. I hope Team Obama does not make the mistake of escalating things in that area.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 11/30/2008
- Amennyc I'm a Fan of Amennyc 16 fans permalink
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Pakistan had the Mariott and India had the Taj.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 11/30/2008
- Machu I'm a Fan of Machu 2 fans permalink

Same same...so said the fair and balanced "Liberal lefty"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 11/30/2008
- PSM42 I'm a Fan of PSM42 20 fans permalink
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And the marines were at both? Oh, just the Marriott, as far as we know. Yet. google marriott marines steel boxes jdam. Mega Hella @ 1.30 :-).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 11/30/2008
- Amennyc I'm a Fan of Amennyc 16 fans permalink
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9/11 was carried out by Saudi militant terrorists. Now that India knows it was Pakistani militants, maybe they can follow the USA's lead and attack Nepal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 11/30/2008
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