Liberals To Keep Pressure On Obama For Results

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BEN FELLER | November 30, 2008 09:22 AM EST | AP

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Seeking early support from organized labor, Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., addresses the Building and Construction Trades Legislative Conference meeting at the Washington Hilton Hotel in Washington, in this file photo from Wednesday, April 20, 2005. The president-elect drew plenty of support from moderates, but the liberal side of the Democratic Party followed him most resoundingly: labor unions, influential Internet blogs and legions of grassroots volunteers. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File)

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama promises to steer the nation straight again. He better be ready for a strong force pulling left.

The president-elect drew plenty of support from moderates, but the liberal side of the Democratic Party followed him most resoundingly: labor unions, influential Internet blogs and legions of grassroots volunteers. He won almost 90 percent of the liberal vote, more than the previous two Democratic presidential nominees, John Kerry or Al Gore.

Now the same millions of left-leaning voters who worked relentlessly to get Obama elected want results. That means ending the war in Iraq, ushering in universal health care, halting harsh interrogation tactics against suspected terrorists, making it easier to form unions and aggressively tackling global warming.

"We'll see," said Eli Pariser, executive director of the liberal powerhouse Moveon.org, about what Obama will deliver. "If they turn out to be all disappointments, we'll have a good three years to storm the gates at the White House."

Already, the liberal blogosphere is showing its influence.

John Brennan, Obama's top pick to head the CIA, suddenly withdrew his name from consideration under pressure this past week. His potential appointment had raised a firestorm among liberal blogs that associate him with the Bush administration's interrogation, detention and rendition policies. Within hours, blogs that raised concerns about Brennan's career claimed victory about their successful exercise in free speech.

The debt is starting to come due on Obama's promise of "change we can believe in." Except he meant "we" in a broader sense.

He promised to lead with a bipartisan spirit, the kind that could unify a country and allow him to get deals through Congress. From the moment he won, he implored people: "Let us resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship."

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And then he set out to take his own advice.

Obama's courting of Republicans _ for ideas, legislative support, and potential roles in his Cabinet _ is drawing cautious attention from the liberal base of his Democratic Party. The concern, to the degree that it exists this soon, is that Obama's emphasis on governing from the center may undermine the left.

He still pledges to wind down the war in Iraq, but everything comes second to fixing the staggering economy right now. He has stood up in defense for Sen. Joe Lieberman, a virtual Democratic outcast these days, and sought help from his Republican presidential foe, Sen. John McCain.

Obama is building a government with several Clinton administration faces, a move that has underwhelmed some liberal voices who are eager for a more dramatic sense of change.

In one posting that seemed to echo in the Internet community, liberal blogger Chris Bowers wrote, "I feel incredibly frustrated. ... Isn't there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration? Why isn't there a single member of Obama's Cabinet who will be advising him from the left?"

Christopher Hayes, the Washington-based editor of The Nation, offered his own lament about a lack of progressive candidates for prominent leadership spots. He said the left has been right about Iraq, financial deregulation and global warming, and yet "no one who comes from the part of American political and intellectual life that has given birth to all of these ideas is anywhere to be found within miles of the Obama Cabinet so far."

Obama pushed back a bit this past week, saying his advisers will blend "experience with fresh thinking."

Of course, he is not done picking his Cabinet, let alone occupying the Oval Office yet. Any rumblings of discontent at this point show that expectations for Obama are enormous within his party. Labor unions and liberal groups spent big money and knocked on countless doors to help get Obama elected.

The undercurrent of concern is not that Obama, granted the title of most liberal senator in one prominent ranking, will suddenly abandon the people who helped elect him or change course on core causes. Rather, it is that liberal side of his party may have to wait longer for victories, and accept smaller ones.

That is the reality of governance right now.

"I think he's moving center-left, rather than left-center. It's fair to call him pragmatic," said Paul Light, a public policy professor and presidential historian at New York University. "I think labor is going to get a lot from him. I think his liberal supporters are going to get a lot from him. But they're going to be disappointed if they want all liberal all the time."

The economy is in such remarkably dreadful shape that Obama may get a pass on other matters while he tries to fix that one.

An early test will be how Obama's team works with congressional leaders and appropriations committee chairmen on his first priority, a massive bill to stimulate the economy. If Democrats go too far left on it, they may lose some conservative members of their own caucus and give Obama some fits.

The left could get early legislative victories on expanded health care for children from poor families, and looser restrictions on federally funded embryonic stem cell research. Obama's stimulus plan is bound to include spending and jobs supported by labor.

As for the anxious anti-war crowd, which helped propel Obama's campaign in its early days, Obama adviser David Axelrod said the new president will not renege on winding down the conflict in Iraq.

Obama says the challenges are simply too huge for the politics of labels; Democrats and Republicans must work together. Pragmatism rules.

"I think what the American people want more than anything is just common sense, smart government," he said. "They don't want ideology."

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- Girl28 I'm a Fan of Girl28 12 fans permalink

Right, left, liberal, conservative, center, those are just words to me. Who cares about labels. I voted for Barack Obama because I wanted an intelligent man with common sense in the White House. I do, however, feel that democrats need to stick together to help this man who hasn't even been sworn in yet. Republicans are jumping at the bit to tear him down already and we shouldn't be adding fuel to the fire by acting like spoiled brats because the man isn't "liberal" enough. Newsflash, I've never heard him describe himself as a liberal, he's always been a unifier, more pragmatist than anything. So, don't blame him for your misplaced expectations. He's shaping his cabinet in the same manner in which he said he would govern, and I couldn't be happier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 12/01/2008

why wait, obstruction is the way

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 12/01/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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...the way of the repubs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 12/01/2008
- Klimb I'm a Fan of Klimb 21 fans permalink

...brilliant thread!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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Excuse me, we "spoiled brats" as you so delicately label the VAST grassroots liberal movement in this country--are the people who PUT THIS PARTY BACK ON THE MAP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 12/01/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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Thank you, Carolab. Someone has to straighten out the woefully ignorant. I'll take the next one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 12/01/2008
- BlackYowe I'm a Fan of BlackYowe 58 fans permalink
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Bush put our PUT THIS PARTY BACK ON THE MAP. He united all the thinking citizens against the GOP! Palin really iced the cake and lit a fire under allot of moderate Republicans to jump ship. You are taking credit you do not deserve! America just woke up from its coma and did the right thing for once.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 12/01/2008
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I am a progressive. Generally, I want policies that are for the progress of our nation.

However, I will settle for someone who is merely competent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 AM on 12/01/2008
- lovered I'm a Fan of lovered 8 fans permalink

As a conservative, I am thrilled at the chocie of Gates, and I hope Obama governs from the center. I'll never vote for him, but as long as he stays away from the left, I'l be satisfied.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 12/01/2008
- Klimb I'm a Fan of Klimb 21 fans permalink

Anybody with common sense would keep Gates for now instead of replacing him immed.; hopefully he is successor will be shadowing for now...DoD is one of those depts that require extra precaution when changing CIC and the nation is at 2 wars, econo. crisis, failing healthcare syst. etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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Sorry to disappoint you: "The president-elect drew plenty of support from moderates, but the liberal side of the Democratic Party followed him most resoundingly: labor unions, influential Internet blogs and legions of grassroots volunteers. He won almost 90 percent of the liberal vote, more than the previous two Democratic presidential nominees, John Kerry or Al Gore."

There will be plenty of grassroots movement to the left of center.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 12/01/2008

unions need to go

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 12/01/2008
- lovered I'm a Fan of lovered 8 fans permalink

He also wants to be president for 8 years and if he starts a major leftwing agenda, that won't happen. Just like Bill couldn't go left, neither can Obama, or he will lose. This country is not center-left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 12/01/2008

i will not be satisfied......that is why i will obstruct bo's bad policies

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 12/01/2008
- Shadow08 I'm a Fan of Shadow08 235 fans permalink
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Good luck with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 12/01/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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You're not doing a bit of good here, obstructing, so how do you plan on getting anymore effective? You're NOT. That's how.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 12/01/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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Hey, 45.... Why do you want to obstruct? If Obama fails, America fails even more than it has already. We already have a failed America courtesy of president cheney and his pet poodle georgie.... P'raps it's time to do some repairs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 12/01/2008
- BlackYowe I'm a Fan of BlackYowe 58 fans permalink
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Gates done good why shouldn't Obama keep him. It was not until Gates got in there anything turned around. Lovered , if you won't vote for Obama in 4 years even if he does well then you are a fool. He is better than any current conservative and has a change of getting things done. I guess you must be one of those stuffy idealogues who can't see the forest for the trees!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 12/01/2008
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I have not forgotten the last eight years and am simply happy to have someone with some sense in the whitehouse... he could do nothing! and I will be happy. He is already looked upon as the PRESIDENT and has not taken the oath of office yet... let him find his way... and just know that nobody can please everyone... repeat after me... There is no more bush, There is no more bush...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 12/01/2008
- Ranta I'm a Fan of Ranta 28 fans permalink
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Obama has enough DLC corporate suck ups like Hillary and Rahm already. It's time for someone like James Galbraith to level the ecomomic ideas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 12/01/2008
- horsey I'm a Fan of horsey 13 fans permalink
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get on board or get off, we don't need you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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EXCUSE ME?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 12/01/2008
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 73 fans permalink
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Could the media please stop ccharacterizing what "liberals" think and feel?

They make it sound like we're all in agreement and We're. Not.

Many--myself included--are still THRILLED by the election of Obama....can't WAIT for Jan 20th--are taking nothing for granted---AND will give the guy SOME TIMEM!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 12/01/2008

i will not give him time......­...obstruc­tion is the way now

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 12/01/2008
- PalmG I'm a Fan of PalmG 5 fans permalink

When will people STOP equating being against the Iraq War to being "liberal" or "left?" MANY conservatives were against that war. This is not a "liberal" thing, it's an American thing! Obama says he wants to be one of the great presidents, like Abe Lincoln. Well, I have news for him, you don't become "great" by being lukewarm. You have to show some spine and make some solid decisions. This toting the middle line is weak. You were elected to be the opposite of George Bush, I hope you realize that and act accordingly. Boldness is the order of the day, not all this whussy bipartisanship. (Wth?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 12/01/2008

yes, it is basically a liberal thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 12/01/2008
- Klimb I'm a Fan of Klimb 21 fans permalink

Can you reason without classification...a conservative this, a liberal that. Labelling made GOP lose...they were stuck on, no Obama can not win red states...Oops! Virginia went Demo, Omaha-Nebraska, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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Right. WE ARE DEMOCRATS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 12/01/2008
- marka I'm a Fan of marka 27 fans permalink

Obama has always been a center/left candidate. He is to the left of Clinton and decidely to the right of Nadar, Finegold and others. If he is to achieve the goals that he has set for his administration he cannot allow himself to be painted as a wild-eyed radical. Gays in the military and national health care derailed Clinton during his first term and he spent the remainder of his time bailing out a very leaky ship of state thereafter. We are still a divided countty but moving leftward. The political center is already left of the Bush/Chaney governance that had a scary, far-right agenda that shredded our Constitution, successfully conducted class warfare against the lower and middle classes, and tried to put church and state in bed together--among other things. If he gets national health care passed, oversee a restoration of tax equity, gets government out of our bedrooms, moves us toward energy independence and erects a firewall between religion and government--he will go down as one of the great U.S. presidents in my book, Have we really forgotten how far right we have been moved?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 12/01/2008
- OtayPanky I'm a Fan of OtayPanky 66 fans permalink
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It's fascinating to watch ideologues of both the left and the right being marginalized right now.

I'll put some popcorn in the microwave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 11/30/2008

i'll toss a log on the fire.........to make a better carbon footprint

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 12/01/2008
- OtayPanky I'm a Fan of OtayPanky 66 fans permalink
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Love it, but my asthma doesn't take kindly to open fires these days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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What is "fascinating" is to read, and to KNOW already, that it was the LIBERAL grassroots that pushed these victories--and then to hear the "center" or "center-right" or "conservatives" who just threw a buck or two his way and voted for him--who didn't hit the streets and do the hard work of rebuilding this PARTY during the past 4-5 years--say they are "satisfied" as though that were somehow the LAST WORD!

Who do you THINK was standing in Grant Park that night?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 12/01/2008
- OtayPanky I'm a Fan of OtayPanky 66 fans permalink
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Here's the news for you: Obama won because he persuaded the persuadable middle that he'd be a better president than John McCain. These folks aren't ideologues. They vote their pocketbook, and (sometimes) their conscience. They're sick of partisan politics and they got the word from Barack that he was too. Now Barack is walking it out, and ideologues on both sides are already moaning in their beer.

Life's tough, but hopefully will improve with a competent post-partisan CEO at the helm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 12/01/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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I wouldn't if I was you. You'll probably choke on it like your fearless leader did on a damned pretzel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 12/01/2008
- OtayPanky I'm a Fan of OtayPanky 66 fans permalink
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You prove my point by reflexively assuming I was ever a Bush supporter just because I'm speaking the facts and you don't like them much. The fact is I was never a repub and have always been a big fan of Barack. I have voted democratic almost always (as far back as I can remember. You can wade through my many posts to prove it for yourself, if you're so inclined...or you can just continue to stew in your own juices if you prefer.

I'm glad we are entering an era of post-partisan governance in this country. It is long overdue. Get used to it...or not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 12/01/2008
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listen please! Barack never campaigned on the platform of pandering to the extreme left. He did however more times than many state that there was no Red or Blue states but there is the UNITED STATES and that he intend on being the PRESIDENT for all. I for one hope that he does pull thru with some on his major promises such as the time line for the war withdrawal, but like he said he would be as careful pulling out as the BUSH administration was careless going in. THAT MEANS THAT IF HIS IS MONTHS IS FEASIBLE THEN HE WILL DO IT!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 11/30/2008
- BlackYowe I'm a Fan of BlackYowe 58 fans permalink
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The liberal core would have voted for any Democrat fielded. This is a joke. It was the moderates who won the day and Obama will play to them as he should.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 11/30/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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You don't know Llberals too well, chump.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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Who do you THINK was present during the primary/caucus season? Who do you THINK puts pressure on who gets "fielded" or not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 12/01/2008
- several I'm a Fan of several 6 fans permalink

Headline: "Media Keeps Pressure on to Find Some Drama Somewhere"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 11/30/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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LOL

So true, and it appears to be working if you read the comments on some of the threads here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 12/01/2008
- Klimb I'm a Fan of Klimb 21 fans permalink

Media does not provide news anymore but instead give their analysis of a report.
I wish everybody could read Al Gores book the "Assault on Reason", he clearly explains what media can be all about...I know I've referenced this book on Huff threads 4ever!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 12/01/2008
- Mulvaney I'm a Fan of Mulvaney 6 fans permalink

Obama has always been a moderate. When the right was depicting him as a radical socialist, I certainly wished it were closer to the truth, but we should not be surprised at the choices he has made. Still, many of the political forces that moved his candidacy will be in a position to push him further. It is perhaps worth remembering how Franklin Roosevelt was largely pushed by the times, and once told supporters "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it.

At the very least, after eight years of Bush, its nice to have a president who is smart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 11/30/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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Voted the most Liberal Senator in Congress. Look it up, sparkless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 12/01/2008
- hapiday I'm a Fan of hapiday 98 fans permalink
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It's a same that PE Obama supporters are becoming shamefully pessimistic. They are allowing the media, the pundits and these ragtag republicans put doubt in their minds about choosing PE Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 11/30/2008

good

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 12/01/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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Good? I think it's GREAT we have a DEMOCRAT leading you around! He's YOUR president too! :) It's good to be KING.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 12/01/2008
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Obama was my fourth choice. I am a Nader person. Just because we knew Obama would be centrist politician doesn't mean we have to keep our pens in the desk drawer.

Even Cornell West said we should put pressure on Obama. His choice of Volcker, 81 years old, is wrong...he could have given the job to a younger/experienced woman...and Volker could write his memoirs about how his economic policies damaged our economy. I see no alternative to the economic status-quo, people to provide those stimulating conversations Obama supposedly likes. He even chooses people who made policies that got us into this mess. He is beholden only to the financial marketeers who financed his election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 11/30/2008

real change, yeah right

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 11/30/2008
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Thats not a Cabinet position and he is not done forming the Council. Oh and there is a young experienced woman in the Cabinet, her name is Melody Barnes and she is a progressive. GEEZ

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 11/30/2008
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Cornell West, really?!!! You are going to quote someone who revel in the status quo and repeats the narrative that blacks are poor even if its not true. wow

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 11/30/2008
- StillIRise I'm a Fan of StillIRise 563 fans permalink
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Putting pressure on our President - once he's inaugurated and has actually taken office - and nitpicking him to death are two different things! I respect Mr. West and am very familiar with him, and I'm sure that he didn't intend to suggest that we should undermine Obama's every critical appointment to his cabinet with complaints about who WE want and who WE like, complaints generally rooted in very personal, selfish and petty ideological perspectives of our government. What YOU see in Obama's choices is important to you and you have every right to your opinion, but criticizing Obama's judgment by the standard of what YOU see through your limited perspective is absurd. Obama is looking through a much broader lens than any of us can even imagine, a lens that not only shows him the same things we see, but a lens that encompasses things we can never see or understand. He's not concerned with what Hillary said about him during the primary, or how old Volker is, or what administration Gates or Holder worked for in the past. He's concerned with getting the best and brightest minds in his cabinet to implement his agenda to serve the American people and to effectuate his vision for our nation. THEY will be serving HIM, and through HIS agenda and vision, they will be serving us. As West may have suggested, we must be vigilant and put pressure on when it's warranted, but first we need to let him get into

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 12/01/2008

why not start undermining now...........have to start some time.......why not now

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 12/01/2008
- heal57 I'm a Fan of heal57 25 fans permalink

Obama will govern from the middle. You should be happy with that after what we've all been through for the last 8 years; actually going back to Reagan. Governing too far left or right is not in the best interest of our country. Nobody is going to be 100% in agreement with our president; that doesn't happen with our spouses and family either. Thank God Obama is the President Elect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 11/30/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 356 fans permalink
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Governing to the LEFT has ALWAYS been "in the best interests of this country". What do you think brought about the great social reforms, anyway? The left REPRESENTS the PEOPLE of this country--it is the pro-labor, pro-civil rights, pro-human rights movement, not the pro-corporate, pro-war camp.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 12/01/2008
- BlackYowe I'm a Fan of BlackYowe 58 fans permalink
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I lean to left on many issues but some things have gone way too far in the Democratic Party. I call these Dems who think only the Urban and Suburban areas matter "Coastalcrats". Coastalcrats are cluess they think everyone from the whole area between the coasts are backward. I am an old style moderate to liberal person who is more like the liberals from the 70s. I can't go for all this Gay marriage stuff and for the hatred of Christians. Christian Bashing is a turn off for me on here as well as on other news sites. Painting all Christians as right wing wackos is wrong and puts millions of people off just as it does me. I hate feeling pushed by my own party and I dare say I am not alone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 12/01/2008
- heal57 I'm a Fan of heal57 25 fans permalink

What you consider 'left' is actually more center to many people. The democratic party has gone too far in some areas as have the republicans strayed way too far right. I still maintain centurists are in the best interest of the country. I don't consider social security 'left wing'. We pay taxes into a fund, and when we retire, it pays out. The democrats have made left wing changes to social security that are not just for retirees or disabled, they pay people [males mostly] over 62 social security for children they have with young women for 18 years for each child. That is taking something too far left; there are other examples.

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