Liberals To Keep Pressure On Obama For Results

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BEN FELLER | November 30, 2008 09:22 AM EST | AP

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Seeking early support from organized labor, Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., addresses the Building and Construction Trades Legislative Conference meeting at the Washington Hilton Hotel in Washington, in this file photo from Wednesday, April 20, 2005. The president-elect drew plenty of support from moderates, but the liberal side of the Democratic Party followed him most resoundingly: labor unions, influential Internet blogs and legions of grassroots volunteers. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File)

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama promises to steer the nation straight again. He better be ready for a strong force pulling left.

The president-elect drew plenty of support from moderates, but the liberal side of the Democratic Party followed him most resoundingly: labor unions, influential Internet blogs and legions of grassroots volunteers. He won almost 90 percent of the liberal vote, more than the previous two Democratic presidential nominees, John Kerry or Al Gore.

Now the same millions of left-leaning voters who worked relentlessly to get Obama elected want results. That means ending the war in Iraq, ushering in universal health care, halting harsh interrogation tactics against suspected terrorists, making it easier to form unions and aggressively tackling global warming.

"We'll see," said Eli Pariser, executive director of the liberal powerhouse Moveon.org, about what Obama will deliver. "If they turn out to be all disappointments, we'll have a good three years to storm the gates at the White House."

Already, the liberal blogosphere is showing its influence.

John Brennan, Obama's top pick to head the CIA, suddenly withdrew his name from consideration under pressure this past week. His potential appointment had raised a firestorm among liberal blogs that associate him with the Bush administration's interrogation, detention and rendition policies. Within hours, blogs that raised concerns about Brennan's career claimed victory about their successful exercise in free speech.

The debt is starting to come due on Obama's promise of "change we can believe in." Except he meant "we" in a broader sense.

He promised to lead with a bipartisan spirit, the kind that could unify a country and allow him to get deals through Congress. From the moment he won, he implored people: "Let us resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship."

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And then he set out to take his own advice.

Obama's courting of Republicans _ for ideas, legislative support, and potential roles in his Cabinet _ is drawing cautious attention from the liberal base of his Democratic Party. The concern, to the degree that it exists this soon, is that Obama's emphasis on governing from the center may undermine the left.

He still pledges to wind down the war in Iraq, but everything comes second to fixing the staggering economy right now. He has stood up in defense for Sen. Joe Lieberman, a virtual Democratic outcast these days, and sought help from his Republican presidential foe, Sen. John McCain.

Obama is building a government with several Clinton administration faces, a move that has underwhelmed some liberal voices who are eager for a more dramatic sense of change.

In one posting that seemed to echo in the Internet community, liberal blogger Chris Bowers wrote, "I feel incredibly frustrated. ... Isn't there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration? Why isn't there a single member of Obama's Cabinet who will be advising him from the left?"

Christopher Hayes, the Washington-based editor of The Nation, offered his own lament about a lack of progressive candidates for prominent leadership spots. He said the left has been right about Iraq, financial deregulation and global warming, and yet "no one who comes from the part of American political and intellectual life that has given birth to all of these ideas is anywhere to be found within miles of the Obama Cabinet so far."

Obama pushed back a bit this past week, saying his advisers will blend "experience with fresh thinking."

Of course, he is not done picking his Cabinet, let alone occupying the Oval Office yet. Any rumblings of discontent at this point show that expectations for Obama are enormous within his party. Labor unions and liberal groups spent big money and knocked on countless doors to help get Obama elected.

The undercurrent of concern is not that Obama, granted the title of most liberal senator in one prominent ranking, will suddenly abandon the people who helped elect him or change course on core causes. Rather, it is that liberal side of his party may have to wait longer for victories, and accept smaller ones.

That is the reality of governance right now.

"I think he's moving center-left, rather than left-center. It's fair to call him pragmatic," said Paul Light, a public policy professor and presidential historian at New York University. "I think labor is going to get a lot from him. I think his liberal supporters are going to get a lot from him. But they're going to be disappointed if they want all liberal all the time."

The economy is in such remarkably dreadful shape that Obama may get a pass on other matters while he tries to fix that one.

An early test will be how Obama's team works with congressional leaders and appropriations committee chairmen on his first priority, a massive bill to stimulate the economy. If Democrats go too far left on it, they may lose some conservative members of their own caucus and give Obama some fits.

The left could get early legislative victories on expanded health care for children from poor families, and looser restrictions on federally funded embryonic stem cell research. Obama's stimulus plan is bound to include spending and jobs supported by labor.

As for the anxious anti-war crowd, which helped propel Obama's campaign in its early days, Obama adviser David Axelrod said the new president will not renege on winding down the conflict in Iraq.

Obama says the challenges are simply too huge for the politics of labels; Democrats and Republicans must work together. Pragmatism rules.

"I think what the American people want more than anything is just common sense, smart government," he said. "They don't want ideology."

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama promises to steer the nation straight again. He better be ready for a strong force pulling left. The president-elect drew plenty of support from moderates, but the lib...
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- Seven7s I'm a Fan of Seven7s 2 fans permalink

As they should. We need to take the nipple out the mans mouth and let him grow as a leader. There shouldnt even be a honeymoon period.

unfourtunatly --especially us black folks-- there seems to be a sense of "messiah-ness" around him. And a sense of expectations that are WAY too high. We all need to hold him to his promises and keep his feet to the fire.

But there is too much, "shut up, keep your head down and dont mess it up for him" sentiment among especially blacks. But nobody is worried about him messing up for US. because likeit otr not the pressident has a lot to do with how our people will be treated.

The excuse of him "not just being OUR president" will only last so long.

I fear that our expectations for him are WAY too high and if he doesnt do anything for blacks what will the reaction be? because he will damm sure do plenty for other groups because he will want to get re-elected. And the comeback of "WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR YOURSELF" wont fly with white people & hispanics.

"They" only throw that in black people's faces as an alternative to saying, "F--k you jiggaboo."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 11/30/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 502 fans permalink
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I don't think you're speaking for very many people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 11/30/2008
- iswideopen I'm a Fan of iswideopen 76 fans permalink
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Seven75:
It's your kind of ignorance that is not needed or wanted. You should be ashamed. Don't keep that bitterness inside you. You make Black people look bad. We love the man, yes, as he represents what we should be, not what we have been "stero-typed" into being. He is only human. You have the rest of us pegged wrong. It took many, many, years of the Reaganomic trickle-down effect economics to take hold. PE Obama deserves our patience, respect, admiration, and loyalty. You have already re-started the "divide and conquer" mode of operation. Keep that to yourself. We have become wise and informed and you are the ones that will not mess this up for us all. We refuse to let you. This is shameful that I even had to write this. Please, stop and think before you open mouth and insert foot. It does us no good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 11/30/2008

Please when you speak of Black People and that "Messiah-ness" NONSENSE please understand you are speaking for yourself. I'm an AA supporter of Obama, HE WILL NEVER BE A MISSIAH or what so ever, he's someone I respect but NEVER SOMEONE I WILL EVER WORSHIP. Respecting and admiring someone does not equal = MESSIAH.

DON'T MAkE UNIVERSAL SATEMENTS ABOUT ALL BLACK PEOPLE!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 11/30/2008
- bboyy I'm a Fan of bboyy 9 fans permalink
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I believe the right wingnuts want us to believe he is the MESSIAH. Don't believe the hype. The man is powerful, but he has limitations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 11/30/2008

No worshipping here....besides, I've never heard Mr. Obama say that he's an AA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 11/30/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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He has said MANY TIMES he identifies as a black man. So there's no need to feel guilty as if blacks are "keeping him to themselves". I'm sure whites outside his mother's family didn't want him when he was walking Chicago streets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 11/30/2008
- Mekarri I'm a Fan of Mekarri 35 fans permalink
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I am a black woman and I was originally for Hillary. I don't think Obama is the messiah. I have always thought that was a stupid thing to say. I know that he has given me hope, something that has been missing these last eight years. I voted for Obama and it brought feelings to the surface that I didn't even know I had. He is a very smart and pragmatic man. I admired the way he ran his campaign and there were times when I disagreed with him on some things. But time after time it worked out and he was right. I trust his judgement and I trust when he make a mistake he will owned up to it. That is all I can ask of anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 11/30/2008

I am a white man and I was originally for Hillary (still very fond of her). But something happened along the way. Barack Obama won over my heart. He is such a decent, fair minded guy. He seems never to want to take the low road. He acts like the "uniter" we have been looking for. I am sure I won't agree with him on everything, but because of him I dare to hope for a better future. I am proud of America for electing him. It's as if I can recognize my country again. So if he's not a messiah, maybe he's close enough in my book. Godspeed, Mr. President-elect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 11/30/2008
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 179 fans permalink

To all the "disappointed " folks out there: You seem to forget what the alternative choice was. Think McCain Palin would have done better? And for heaven sake, he hasn't even taken office. Calm down and give him a chance. You voted because you trusted him. Now trust that he knows what he is doing. You may want many things from him, but he also has to watch out for the future of the party so we don't lose seats in 2010 and we don't lose the White House again for a good long time. Sometimes that takes a little compromise. He isn't there to please each of you personally, but to please as many Americans as possible.

"....But they're going to be disappointed if they want all liberal all the time." That sums it up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 11/30/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 447 fans permalink
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It's not about the "alternative choice". It's about what America can be and should be. It's supposed to be about CHANGE. Not just a "better alternative" to the worst imaginable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 12/01/2008
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He still has 51 days until he takes office... everyone needs to calm down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 11/30/2008

Hillary won't get results, especially with India.

Hillary Clinton: Gandhi Works In A Gas Station
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9LP0ATVJc

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 11/30/2008
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 179 fans permalink

Why don't you wait to compalin until her appointment is annouced or better yet, until she actually goes to work?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 11/30/2008
- karela I'm a Fan of karela 102 fans permalink

Move On did a terriffic job of helping during this election. I hope that they are going to continue to be a real help. But, I'd like to add a thought. I joined Move On and contributed generously to it BECAUSE it was helping Obama. Move On helped Obama and their work for Obama helped Move On too. I'll bet that Move On's membership grew hugely during this election season. I strongly believe in the things Obama has put forth and as long as Move On is a help in supporting Obama in accomplishing those things I'll be all for Move On too. I sincerely hope that Move On gives the President a chance to accomplish his goals. No one who is reasonable expects that he can meet every single one of them in this economic environment in the first two years and maybe not in the first term. What I'm looking for is a desire and an effort to methodically work towards those goals. I think that Obama is already trying to set things in motion to do that. Let's all calm down. Obama has the most powerful figure at Cabinet meetings advising him on things the Left holds dear-------Himself!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 11/30/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 447 fans permalink
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It wasn't just Move-On. It was an entire coalition of liberal organizations that pushed the Democrats to victory since 2004.

Seems too many people who are posting here don't seem to REALIZE that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 12/01/2008
- lizziekw I'm a Fan of lizziekw 39 fans permalink

"That means ending the war in Iraq, ushering in universal health care, halting harsh interrogation tactics against suspected terrorists, making it easier to form unions and aggressively tackling global warming."

None of that sounds particularly liberal to me, it's more like good common sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 11/30/2008
- anachoret I'm a Fan of anachoret 33 fans permalink

It sounds liberal to me, because they were the ones pushing for when others weren't.
Of course, I don't think good common sense and liberal are any more at odds today, than they were when these ideas were attacked as un-American or the "loony left."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 11/30/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 447 fans permalink
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I guess you missed the memo: It was the RIGHT WING who branded liberals as "loony". We are now PROUDLY reclaiming ourselves as "liberals". And if you don't know what the definition is of "liberal" I suggest you look it up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 AM on 12/01/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 502 fans permalink
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Thank you. It's amazing how the right wing is determined to make corporate greed the "center" of political ideology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 11/30/2008
- Querent I'm a Fan of Querent 69 fans permalink
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Well, it is liberal. If you don't like the word liberal, I guess that's okay, but the fact is that all these things you just listed are liberal positions. Opposed by conservatives. Bitterly opposed. Until you realize that you, or we, or somebody, is going to have to fight the conservatives to get these things done, I guess it's okay to look at it as common sense, but it's a lot easier to know who your allies are if you know which side you're on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 12/01/2008
- natx I'm a Fan of natx 3 fans permalink

i think the activist left definately deserves alot of credit for getting obama elected, but i hope that they realize they are part of a coalition and team. it's not all about the moveon.orgs of this world. it seems they forget that part of Obama's large win was turning states like Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, North Carolina, Nevada, etc.. blue. And this is in part because of huge moderate support.

I guess I would probably consider myself a moderate - though i work with a lot of people who would are probably much more left. This was the first campaign that I ever donated to and even volunteered for. And the reason i did so was not because of the moveon.orgs of this world, but because of Obama himself and the message that he was putting forth. How can we find common ground? How can we have a politics that isn't about demonization? etc.

Obama is going to have a real tough time trying to be president of ALL americans. I don't expect people to compromise their beliefs, but I do expect people to learn how to engage with a give and take. That being able to work with each other is sometimes more important than being right, having your way, and scoreboard points for your agenda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 11/30/2008
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 179 fans permalink

Common sense comment. Thanks natx. Hope we are in the majority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 11/30/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 502 fans permalink
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A new era of civil debate would be nice, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 11/30/2008
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That would be great

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 11/30/2008
- iwantpie I'm a Fan of iwantpie 7 fans permalink

Agreed 100%.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 11/30/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 447 fans permalink
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You should be damned glad for the liberal left because it is people like the ACLU who have been and will continue to work for YOUR rights as an American and for better health care, better environmental regulations, better human rights and a restoration of civil rights, not to mention an end to these wars!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 12/01/2008
- karela I'm a Fan of karela 102 fans permalink

Right thinking on Iraq, deregulations and global warming are listed as ideas that came from the left and it is lamented that Obama has no one in his cabinet that advises him from that position--------What the heck??? Did anybody notice that OBAMA was right about Iraq, deregulation, global warming and a lot of other things? Folks, the boss of the show is a leader on all those issues and he's strong enough to stand on his own issues. He isn't even in office yet and he's working to create jobs by rebuilding infrastructure and creating clean alternative energy. Why do we always run around like Chicken Little yelling that the sky is falling? I can't begin to count the times the Left was positive Obama was doing it all wrong only to be shown that he knew how to best accomplish his goals. Anybody remember a whole lot of gnashing of teeth right after the Republican Convention when the Left ranted that Obama was blowing the election because he "should" be going after McCain in a much more negative campaign? He couldn't possibly win if he didn't do what they told him to do!!!! Well, sit down and be quiet for a while and give the man a chance. If you yell about EVERYTHING then your voice becomes a meaningless drone in the background. Let's save our own political capitol and use it wisely for things that really need it and not just imagined fears that haven't happened yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 11/30/2008

karela, thank you so much for articulating all my thoughts;
They complained when he selected Biden they said that wasn't change, and look how well he and Biden did, they complained after the RNC he's not responding to McCain, they complain, complain, complain and end up looking stupid because he ends up being right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 11/30/2008
- iwantpie I'm a Fan of iwantpie 7 fans permalink

Perfecto. Plus, don't forget Obama HIMSELF is the Policies and is just getting these people to move his agenda forward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 11/30/2008

It is true this Nation is best served when it is governed from the center. The trouble is in we have been yanked again and again to the extreme right.

This Country needs a course correction to just return to center, and it isn’t a small correction. We need to undo the damage that has been wrought upon us since Reagan. To some that might seem liberal but in fact it is only a return to the center.

Barack Obama has told us this will not be easy. He has told us the change we seek will require hard work and sacrifice from all. The status quo never relinquishes power without a struggle. This campaign wasn’t just about getting Obama elected. It is about US and the change we need, so I say to one and all, the job isn’t finished, there is much work still to be done. President Obama will need the support and mandate of the people. Without that support and yes pressure he will not be able to overcome the entrenched forces allied against progress.

We have taken a moment to savor the history and joy of his election and I am sure we will take another on January 20th, but on January 21st our work continues. We must hold the new administration’s feet to the fire by continuing to speak out on important issues. We must continue to donate to those organizations which help express our views. We must continue to build our movement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 11/30/2008
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What is the 'center'? Seems like a very imaginative place. Have we ever been there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 11/30/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 447 fans permalink
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We've never been anywhere BUT in the last 40 years, with a distinct lean to the right beginning in about 1980.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 12/01/2008
- loveobamas I'm a Fan of loveobamas 88 fans permalink
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THANK GOD OBAMA GOD A MIND OF HIS OWN,HE WILL FOLLOW HIS OWN AGENDA THAT WILL STEER THIS COUNTRY BACK ON TRACK.THESE FAR LEFT LIBERALS ASKING TOO MUCH OF THIS MAN ALREADY.HE'S NOT GOD HE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 11/30/2008

Professor Light, the country isn't just a big pie with everybody getting a slice (maybe, if we wait long enough) This country is a totality and the totality is going either right towards Mussolini-style corporate fascism or left towards a democratized capitalism with traces of socialism to de-brutalize the worst aspects of capitalism, the preservation of the Constitution and restoration of our liberties and our prosperity. The reign of big corporations, Big Agriculture, Big Pharm, Big Defense and Big Oil must come to a close; they have done too much harm to the nation's economy and the planet's survival, destroying its productive base, forcing its people into poverty, and undermining the nation's sovereignty and independence. The Congress must be de-corrupted and prevented from doing its bidding. No more corporate men in the governmental departments, looking out for corporate interests within the government itself. No more revolving door between corporation and government. It's all bad and it has all got to change, or we can say goodbye to the United States of America. and hello to a broken shadow of what once was here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 11/30/2008

WOW, are you serious about that? Since you have all the answers please run for office to dismantle all of them. With this attitude the only difference between you and the Bushes is what side of the fence you're on.

NO PARTY HAS A MONOPOLY ON WISDOM!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 11/30/2008
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John Brennan, Obama's top pick to head the CIA....

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You know, I must have missed when Obama spoke out and said he was considering this guy for the head of the CIA. All I remember is rumors set off by the MSM.

We all need to be very suspicious of what comes out of the MSM these days, especially outfits like Politico (the internet version of Fox) and Fox. They have a vested interest in setting the narrative in that they want to push Obama to the right. Fortunately Obama keeps his own council and doesn't listen to all the chatter the MSM is setting up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 11/30/2008
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 179 fans permalink

Absolutely right. Obama is going to do what he thinks is best. Even in the face of whining Democrats who voted for him, but don't think he is doing what they want! So give him some time. You might be surprised how much he can accomplish. I tell that to the gops that I know and now I guess I have to say it to some Democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 11/30/2008
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 98 fans permalink
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i would be careful not to be fooled by MSM left/right storyline... it's completely bogus...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 11/30/2008
- Klimb I'm a Fan of Klimb 23 fans permalink

BTW...what, which sources do you get your info. from?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 11/30/2008
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 98 fans permalink
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the library.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 12/01/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 502 fans permalink
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Agreed. More about ratings than governance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 11/30/2008
- lovable I'm a Fan of lovable 9 fans permalink

iswideopen thanks ur comment was wide open and true. THE GUY IS NOT PRESIDENT YET MSM AND RIGHT WING DOPES. all the people that he has nominated so far MUST FOLLOW HIS LEAD !!!!!!!!!!!! . he is even being criecized for not going to church and not going to the bathroom. u msm/ right wing nuts / limbaugh / hannity / fox news have no and i mean no idea what is going on in his head.

i heard today that joe biden may introduce the secuity team tommorrow if that is true look for obama to be critisized for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 11/30/2008
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 98 fans permalink
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i think most of the article, MSM, and many of the comments below miss the point that we've undertaken a political process, primaries, party platform, election, right? so when O floats Brenner as a candidate for intelligence, a guy who supported renditions, and when the party platform says we are going to reform our intelligence institutions, those folks who have been paying attention and have been engaged in the process were bound to raise objections...

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First off, I highly doubt Brennan was seriously thought to be a candidate. I think he nominated himself for the position.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 11/30/2008
- BeasleysMom I'm a Fan of BeasleysMom 179 fans permalink

Right. I love all the speculation when Obama hasn't even made "official prononcements" on a variety of appointments. Wait until you hear it from him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 11/30/2008
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