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MATTHEW LEE and PETE YOST | 12/ 1/08 06:30 PM | AP

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President-elect Barack Obama introduces Secretary of State-designate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., as a news conference in Chicago, Monday, Dec. 1, 2008. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

WASHINGTON — The close ties with India that Secretary of State-nominee Hillary Rodham Clinton forged during her years as a U.S. senator and presidential candidate could complicate diplomatic perceptions of her ability to serve as a neutral broker between India and its nuclear neighbor, Pakistan.

With tensions rising between India and Pakistan after last week's deadly terrorist attacks in Mumbai, Hillary Clinton faces an early test of her influence in South Asia, where President-elect Barack Obama on Monday said that instability and the rise of militants pose "the single most important threat against the American people."

Both Hillary Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, have maintained warm relations for years with India and the Indian-American community. As New York's senator for eight years and as a 2008 presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton toured India and visited with Indian officials and entrepreneurs, and her campaigns profited from the largesse of Indian-American fundraisers. Bill Clinton's charitable foundation has been funded by some of the same well-heeled Indian businessmen who backed his wife's campaigns.

In her new role as the nation's top diplomat, Hillary Clinton would project Obama's policies, not her own. But even foreign affairs experts who wave off suggestions that Hillary Clinton would lean toward either Asian power acknowledge that the perception of such a tilt could cause suspicions in Pakistan. South Asia experts reject the assertion of bias, but they acknowledge it exists.

"There are some who believe it, but I think most people think she is an objective observer with a good understanding of South Asia," said Walter Andersen, Associate Director of the South Asia Studies Program at Johns Hopkins University's School for Advanced International Studies. Andersen insisted perceptions of Hillary Clinton's bias toward India are "based on inaccuracy."

Karin Von Hippel, a South Asia expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, agreed, saying Hillary Clinton is "very balanced" and "understands almost better than anybody how delicate the situation is between these two countries."

Still, perceptions matter, especially in the region. "There are concerns that she is seen as pro-India, she and her husband both," said one Washington-based foreign diplomat with extensive experience in South Asia. "The Pakistanis definitely see them as closer and friendlier to India."

The diplomat spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive issue of India and Pakistan, which have fought three wars _ two of them over the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir _ since winning independence from Britain.

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Influential members of the Indian-American community have rejoiced in Hillary Clinton's selection as secretary of state.

"Sen. Clinton will continue the close relationship between the United States and India that started with the Clinton administration and has progressed in the Bush years," said Varun Nikore, founder of the Indian-American Leadership Initiative, an independent political organization supporting Democratic candidates.

"You cannot expect that any nominee for secretary of state would have a special relationship going into this job, but we're very lucky that we have in Sen. Clinton someone who is already well-versed on one of the more important countries and emerging economies in the world," said Nikore.

A current State Department official allowed that Bill Clinton had substantially boosted engagement with India, but noted that any administration would likely have done so. The official stressed that President George W. Bush has continued that course, most recently signing a civilian nuclear pact with New Delhi.

"None of this has been meant to exclude Pakistan, but it is a zero-sum game when you are dealing with these two countries," the official said. "You can't do something with one without it affecting the other." The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal administration thinking.

Ties between the United States and India improved dramatically, as did Pakistani suspicions of pro-India bias in Washington, during Bill Clinton's administration, which embraced India as a major power and market as it opened its economy in the 1990s.

The administration's disparate treatment of India and Pakistan was most apparent during a 2000 Asian trip, with the president spending five days in India and seven hours in Pakistan.

The Clinton White House barred media coverage of the Pakistan stop and released only an official photo of Bill Clinton and Gen. Pervez Musharraf seated among aides, 12 feet across from each other. Bill Clinton admonished Pakistan's military government to retreat from its nuclear weapons course and to lower dangerous tensions with India.

In a speech to India's Parliament on that trip, Bill Clinton said he shared many of New Delhi's concerns about "the course Pakistan is taking; your disappointment that past overtures have not always met with success; your outrage over recent violence. I know it is difficult to be a democracy bordered by nations whose governments reject democracy."

Early during her presidential campaign in 2008, the former first lady pointed to the "strong partnership" that Bill Clinton forged between India and the U.S. As New York's senator, Hillary Clinton also touted her role as co-chair of the Senate India Caucus.

"As president I will work with India to make our strong friendship even stronger," Hillary Clinton promised earlier this year.

During the presidential campaign, Indian-Americans reciprocated Hillary Clinton's long-standing embrace of India by giving generously _ $2 million at a single fundraiser in New York in 2007.

At one point, the Obama camp prepared, but then disavowed, a campaign memo that carried the headline "Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)," a mocking play on the standard reference to a candidates' party and constituency.

The memo, which created a furor in India and the Indian-American community, also referred to the Clintons' investments in India, Sen. Clinton's fundraising among Indian-Americans and the former president's $300,000 in speech fees from Cisco, a company that has moved U.S. jobs to India.

Obama called the memo "a dumb mistake" and "not reflective of the long-standing relationship I have had with the Indian-American community."

Now as president-elect, Obama has chosen Hillary Clinton to be his chief diplomat and highlighted India and Pakistan as priorities for his administration.

"The situation in South Asia as a whole and the safe havens for terrorists that have been established there represent the single most important threat against the American people," he told reporters at a news conference Monday as he unveiled his foreign policy and national security team, including Hillary Clinton.

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Associated Press writer Devlin Barrett contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — The close ties with India that Secretary of State-nominee Hillary Rodham Clinton forged during her years as a U.S. senator and presidential candidate could complicate diplomatic per...
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- DeWayne I'm a Fan of DeWayne 14 fans permalink
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The Clinton-Admin (1993-2001) peace and prosperity story has more holes in it than a sponge, the "Surplus" that both DEM/GOP claimed to be seen in some bright future disappeared faster than world peace. The Clinton 'By-Back' of US-Debt lasted about as long as a good bowel movement (Trickle Down again). Ever notice no one (Dem/Gop) carped about Clinton personally making war on Iraq civilains without a Congressional 'Declaration of War'?

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One day Americans may wake up, denial has a way of weakening along with a stomache shrinking alongside a weak spine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 436 fans permalink
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It was Junior who decided to camp out with the neocons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 12/01/2008
- mec57 I'm a Fan of mec57 3 fans permalink

...and so who's prosperity was it...Reagan's? PLEASE!
Bush I's??? You have GOT to be kidding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 12/02/2008
- Keith52 I'm a Fan of Keith52 39 fans permalink
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Please. The surplus was Bush's or Reagan's and now this current financial crisis is Obama's fault, I suppose? (I read a right wing blog that tried to tie the current mess to Obama!)

You people do live in your own little reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 AM on 12/02/2008
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Why oh Why can't we have better press?!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 12/01/2008
- chronic I'm a Fan of chronic 71 fans permalink
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Well I used to have high hopes for this site.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 12/02/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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Hillary will be a disaster as Secretary of State...!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 12/01/2008

**yawn**

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 12/02/2008
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I think the crystal ball you bought at Walmart isn't working too well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 12/02/2008
- chronic I'm a Fan of chronic 71 fans permalink
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Actually I think its a Dollar Store crystal ball. The plastic version.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 12/02/2008
- duze I'm a Fan of duze 25 fans permalink

Maybe Congress will put an end to this farce and refuse to grant her nomination. I don't think she can truthfully answer the questions about Bills $B library or her connection to Pater Paul.
Somethings Up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 12/02/2008
- mec57 I'm a Fan of mec57 3 fans permalink

Not as much as those who post idiotic comments like this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 AM on 12/02/2008

I am glad that Obama appointed Hillary for the top post. Hillary will excel. I have no doubt.
Americans will love her and abroad she will be well received.
Chelsea Clinton should be drafted to go for the Senate seat from NY vacated by her mother Hillary if she becomes the next Secretary of State.
Chelsea has been living and working in NY and is well educated and comes from two parents - both in whose blood run politics. She is also a good speaker. When Tim Russert passed away his son got the job and he is known to have been doing quite well. So why not Chelsea ? New Yorkers love the Clintons and surely they will support Chelsea.
Chelsea can then carry on with some of the plans that her mother wanted to achieve as a Senator. One in particular-the Universal Health Care for all Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 12/01/2008
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You know, these two nations are going to have to stop acting like childrens and grow up. This eternal fight over Kashmir is ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 436 fans permalink
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One could say the same thing about Israel and Palestine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 436 fans permalink
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Can't we all just get along? Look at us here-right vs. left, Christian vs. non-Christian; we're hardly in a position to talk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 12/01/2008

just nitpicking at really minor things, must write news...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 12/01/2008
- AfzaalKhan I'm a Fan of AfzaalKhan 2 fans permalink

actually a very valid point. If Mr. Obama wants to solve Kashmir issue, Clintons not percieve in good light in pakistan. Just an observation. Im not saying she is biased im just stating article raise some valid points regharding perception.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 12/01/2008
- duze I'm a Fan of duze 25 fans permalink

The amount of pressure and responsibility that comes with this position, should not be undertaken by someone with a questionable reputation. Especially, since her husband is being considered for a post in the Obama Administration. What's this about? This just sounds real tacky and typical government to me. So much for No Drama Obama!
He picked the mother of all drama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 12/02/2008
- DeWayne I'm a Fan of DeWayne 14 fans permalink
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Some may see a difference between Cheney and Clinton's regarding Nuclear proliferation, meant by this helping nations like Pakistan and India develop Nuclear technology and materials to produce Atomic bombs.

Apparently India Nuclear goes back to 1950's, Uranium enrichment to 90%-grade in 1964, and their first "peaceful" Nuclear explosion in 1974. This of course called for the Covert US-Gov in 1998 enabling Pakistan to obtain Nuclear tech/materials to produce Atomic Bombs also. After all, Clintons and Cheney appear to believe this brings stabilization in the Middle-East.

I can see why the Bush-dictatorship found Iran 3-5% grade enriched Uranium (suitable only for Power Plants) as very frightening, the only Middle-East nation so far able to stop serious Covert US-Gov interference within their nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 12/01/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 182 fans permalink

I think this is positive because the Indian govt is likely to be receptive to Clinton. The Bush legacy has always been pro Pakistan. Even Papa Bush pandered to Pakistan. Clinton is likely to be effective.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 12/01/2008
- booker52 I'm a Fan of booker52 33 fans permalink
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I still say Gov Richardson should of been offered this post instead of Sen Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 12/01/2008
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Move on, its done

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 12/01/2008
- sylar I'm a Fan of sylar 2 fans permalink

Agreed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 12/01/2008
- chronic I'm a Fan of chronic 71 fans permalink
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How do you know if Richardson was offered but did not want the post?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 12/02/2008
- suuzie I'm a Fan of suuzie 2 fans permalink

I pray Hillary is not confirmed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 12/01/2008
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So, you are basically praying for Obama to suffer his first political mistake? Nice

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 12/01/2008
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What do you expect from a "concerned troll" pretending to care about what happens in progressive land. Just ignore them. Sooner or later they will get bored and go away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 12/02/2008
- chronic I'm a Fan of chronic 71 fans permalink
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Don't waste your time. If you know anything about politics you would know HRC has it in the bag!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 12/02/2008
- rcpmac I'm a Fan of rcpmac 6 fans permalink

pfffft

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 12/02/2008
- ailbhe I'm a Fan of ailbhe 13 fans permalink

Hillary can deal with people, she is tough and usually gets what she wants. I have no fear about her ability to do this job well.

The situation could destabilise very quickly. India and Pakistan hate one another, are both nuclear powers and Pakistan is very unstable. The biggest worry would be if the Pakistani government collapsed and the nukes were set off by extremists within the ISI, the response would be devastating.

It may only be a small chance but we are going to need tough, dealmaking diplomats to ensure that does not happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 436 fans permalink
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From where I sit, Pakistan is not itching to start anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 12/01/2008
- ailbhe I'm a Fan of ailbhe 13 fans permalink

I never said they were.

I said it is an unstable situation which could get out of control.

India is blaming Pakistan for the Mumbai attack and the consequences of retaliation could lead to extremists within Pakistan taking over, the ISI is infested with supporters of al qaeda who are attempting to destabilise the country. If they got their hands on the nukes, it would be war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 12/01/2008
- grata2ude I'm a Fan of grata2ude 61 fans permalink

Oh brother, AP always looking at the glass half empty. On the other hand, it could help and probably will. But let's just keep bashing Hilary. Obama has made his choice and I have full confidence in his decision.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 12/01/2008
- JadedAggie I'm a Fan of JadedAggie 10 fans permalink

If anything it is likely to help since right now you really need to be reassuring India. It really wouldn't help if you went in there with no obvious bias since people in those sort of conflicts tend to judge for themselves you allegiances in a matter of moments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 436 fans permalink
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Yes, and add to this the fact that The Clinton Foundation is extremely involved with Dubai. In fact, the UAE and India have a "progressive" business partnership:

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/12/02/stories/2008120250392000.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 436 fans permalink
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The UAE backs nuclear-free Middle East resolutions:

http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=node/6582

(This is dated 10/17/08)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 12/01/2008
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Dubai is growing to become a superpower in that region. It might be a good thing, might defuse some of the tension there to have a more progressive muslim country

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 12/01/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 436 fans permalink
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Dubai is indeed well on its way; if they seek to end nuclear proliferation then it's a good thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 12/01/2008
- edwarvir I'm a Fan of edwarvir 36 fans permalink

universala How hard is it going to be
if she will just follow his lead and
not go into her Billary mode.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 12/01/2008
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