It's official: US has been in a recession all year

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MARTIN CRUTSINGER | December 1, 2008 06:41 PM EST | AP

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In thgis Nov. 18, 2008 file photo, Paul Nawrocki, from Beacon, N.Y., wears a sign as he looks for work near the David Letterman studios in New York. The U.S. economy has been in a recession since December 2007, the National Bureau of Economic Research said Monday. (AP Photo/Bebeto Matthews, File)

WASHINGTON — It's official. The U.S. economy has been in a recession for the past year.

The start of the downturn was announced Monday by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

The NBER _ a private, nonprofit research organization _ said its group of academic economists who determine business cycles met and decided that the U.S. recession began last December.

By one benchmark, a recession occurs whenever the gross domestic product, the total output of goods and services, declines for two consecutive quarters. The GDP turned negative in the July-September quarter of this year, and many economists believe it is falling in the current quarter at an even sharper rate.

But the NBER's dating committee uses broader and more precise measures, including employment data. In a news release, the group said its cycle dating committee held a telephone conference call on Friday and made the determination on when the recession began.

The White House commented on the news that a second downturn has officially begun on President George W. Bush's watch without ever actually using the word "recession," a term the president and his aides have repeatedly avoided. Instead, spokesman Tony Fratto remarked upon the fact that NBER "determines the start and end dates of business cycles."

"What's important is what is being done about it," Fratto said. "The most important things we can do for the economy right now are to return the financial and credit markets to normal, and to continue to make progress in housing, and that's where we'll continue to focus."

Many economists believe the current downturn will be the most severe since the 1981-82 recession. The country is being battered by the most severe financial crisis since the 1930s as banks struggle to deal with billions of dollars in loan losses.

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The Bush administration won approval from Congress on Oct. 3 for a $700 billion rescue package for the financial system. Bush said in an interview with ABC's "World News" to be aired Monday that he would support additional intervention if necessary to end the recession.

"I'm sorry it's happening, of course," Bush said, referring to a global financial crisis that has eliminated millions of jobs and damaged retirement accounts.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said Monday that further interest rate cuts were possible but he cautioned that there were limits to how much such action will be able to revive an economy expected to remain weak well into next year.

"Although further reductions ... are certainly feasible, at this point the scope for using conventional interest rate policies to support the economy is obviously limited," Bernanke said in a speech to business executives in Austin, Texas. The Fed is widely expected to cut a key interest rate when officials next meet on Dec. 15-16.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said the Bush administration is looking for more ways to tap a $700 billion financial rescue program and will consult with Congress and the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama.

"While we are making progress, the journey ahead will continue to be a difficult one," Paulson said in a speech to business executives in Washington. "But I have confidence that we are pursuing the right strategy to stabilize the financial system and support the flow of credit into our economy."

In his remarks Monday, Paulson did not provide specifics on what type of programs the administration had under consideration other than to say that it was looking at ways to boost capital into financial institutions.

Asked about the NBER panel's decision that the U.S. fell into a recession in December 2007, Paulson said that he didn't think that decision was going to be "big news" to Americans who have been dealing with the slowdown for some time.

He said that a year ago, the administration could see that the economy was slowing significantly and that officials had moved very quickly to respond to the challenges. That was apparently a reference to the $168 billion economic stimulus plan that Paulson helped push through Congress last February.

Two new reports provided a grim snapshot of how steep the economic slump is becoming. The Commerce Department reported Monday that construction spending fell by a larger-than-expected 1.2 percent in October, while the Institute for Supply Management said its gauge of manufacturing activity dropped to a 26-year low in November.

The GDP contracted by 0.2 percent at an annual rate in the fourth quarter of 2007, but that that drop was followed growth in the first two quarters of this year, partially boosted by the distribution of millions of economic stimulus payments.

But employment, one of the measurements tracked by the NBER, has been falling since January.

The NBER decision means that the economic expansion lasted from November 2001 until December 2007. Economic expansions peak and recessions begin in the same month, according to the NBER's dating methods. Founded in 1920, the NBER has more than 1,000 university professors and researchers who act as bureau associates, studying how the economy works.

The decision on the recession means that during the eight years that Bush has been in office, the country has seen two recessions. The first lasted from March 2001 until November that year.

The current recession, which will be a year old this month, has already lasted longer than the 10-month average for recessions in the post World War II period. Two downturns, the 1973-75 slump and the 1981-82 recession, both lasted for 16 months, the longest stretch during the post-war period.

Both the 2001 recession and the 1991-92 recession lasted eight months.

The last expansion, from November 2001 to December 2007, lasted six years and one month. The longest expansion in U.S. history was the 10 years of uninterrupted growth from March 1991 till March 2001.

Among the monthly statistics the NBER uses are payroll employment, which peaked in December of last year and has been falling every month since then. Other figures it uses include GDP, industrial production, personal incomes and wholesale and retail trade.

The chair of the NBER dating panel is James Poterba, an economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the president of the NBER. NBER officials said there was no reason that the Friday after Thanksgiving was chosen for the committee to hold its conference call other than that was one day when all panel members were available.

WASHINGTON — It's official. The U.S. economy has been in a recession for the past year. The start of the downturn was announced Monday by the National Bureau of Economic Research.
WASHINGTON — It's official. The U.S. economy has been in a recession for the past year. The start of the downturn was announced Monday by the National Bureau of Economic Research.
 
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OK it is official, NOW we are in a Recession!
Excuse me, but I could have saved them a lot of trouble. For anyone paying attention, it would have been clear that we"ve been on the road to recession since December 2007. But it"s typical for official recession announcements to get released just as we are about to hit bottom, or even when the economic cycle is actually beginning to reverse itself into recovery mode. In other words, these reports are USELESS. You might as well close the barn door after the. . .well, you know.
These announcements are not just old news, they"re an insult to the intelligence of consumers. It"s not as if we haven"t noticed that we"ve been living in a world that"s every bit as uncertain as it was after the 1930s.
It"s a disaster of epic proportions and there"s still more waiting in the wings"the unraveling of commercial real estate and the explosion of credit card debt and the defaults that are sure to follow. On the other hand, who knows? We might actually be in the recovery period . . . but of course we"ll have to wait until the NERB formally announces it . . . sometime in 2010.
I would highly recommend you read a great new book called " The Big Gamble" by Jose Roncal and Jose Abbo as they delve and provide great insight on the recession and current economic crisis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 12/07/2008
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It sure feels recessiony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 12/03/2008

I'm sorry, but your arms and legs really WERE broken after all.
I know I'm your DOCTOR and you counted on my diagnosis, but if I'd told you that you needed traction,
you might have sued me for that prescription that made you jump off a cliff!
But you didn't. And you payed my new higher fees, thank you.

Anyway, we're going to have to re-break your arms and legs to set them properly. Ouch!

excuse me while I wash my hands

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 12/03/2008
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VERY POOR honesty, Rep. keeping this under wraps until they were forced to admit it after the election they lost!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 12/02/2008
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They've just got around to announcing what the American people have know for two years. Wonder if they're ready to admit that the recession is looking more like a depression. Just wait until year end. The retail industry will announce a dismal holiday season, and then the cacare (you Italians know that means) will hit the fan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 12/02/2008

We've been in a recession for 7 years. Now we're in a depression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 12/02/2008

Really! Whoda thunkit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 12/02/2008
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Oh, so they waited until after the elections to tell us? That should be illegal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 12/02/2008

Oh no, people continue to spend what will we do. Some people choose not to participate. Others whine and become victims. Sucking off the tit of America. Typical left reaction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 12/02/2008

Now how will Hannity and Limbaugh be able to blame Obama for the recession? This is not good! People will never believe Obama caused this now!

Whatever will they do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 AM on 12/02/2008

They will think of something. They always do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 AM on 12/02/2008

Obama and the democrat congress will just make it worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 12/02/2008

Now, they tell us!
Who is in charge of the data, Rip Van Winkle?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 12/02/2008

On the July 14, 2008 edition of ABC's Sunday morning news show "This Week with George Stephanopoulos," George Will was quite adamant that the U.S. was not in a recession. Are you calling him a liar?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 12/02/2008

That's because he just drank a big pitcher of kool aid before he went on the air.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 AM on 12/02/2008

"to return the financial and credit markets to normal, and to continue to make progress in housing"

Hahahahaha! The invisible hand of the market is working: risk one day, fear the next. The stock market and housing both will seek a reversion to the mean. The progress in housing will continue to be negative until it reaches true values.

No amount of wishful thinking will maintain the excess of a bubble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 12/01/2008

So next time things get bad is it going to take the government a year to tell us? This is yet more proof that the Bush administration wasn't serious about actually governing. And to think we weren't far away from Phil "nation of whiners" Gramm as Treasury Secretary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 12/01/2008

This economic mess started with sub-prime loans, not individual profligate spending (although there was plenty of that going on, too). In the last 10 years I have walked out on two mortgage loan officers who promised me one product, and on closing day showed up with a different product, mistakenly thinking either I would not notice or would think it too late to change financiers. I happen to have two degrees and am used to contract language - most people don't have such a background, and when a "loan officer" tells them they qualify they are being reasonable in trusting him/her. Yes, there are people who have been living beyond their means. But the bigger problem specific to this issue is that the mortgage industry deregulated, rewrote the rules to favor themselves, and victimized borrowers who were not educated about mortgages, then sold the paper to shed their risk. And we got stuck with the bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 12/01/2008

dry, and even the subprime loans would not have been enough to destabilize our Economy by themselves. It took the securitization of those loans and the selling of debt swaps to spin it up into the trillions at risk, leveraged at over 35 times. If the loans had stayed with their originating banks, we wouldn't be looking at this. Wall Street set this up--set it up to fail, in my opinion and the bailout will end up being an even bigger payday than the rip off was!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 12/01/2008

Rule - exactly, thanks. I was running out of room...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 12/01/2008

I have had two adjustable loans. One in 1998 and one just recently. In 1998, the loans could adjust .5% a year. Recently I had to get another adjustable due to a divorce ruining my credit. They can now adjust 3% every six months. Where .5% meant an increase of about $100 a month, the 3% was an increase of $400+. The increase was due to the lobbying efforts of the banks to get the Bush administration to relax its rules, so that they could make more money from people who could or would not refinance.

Clinton originally expected subprime loans to allow people to own homes who normally could not get financed. Adjustable loans were always meant to be refinanced, and it's not unreasonable for people to have believed that they would before the loan came due for adjustment. Two or three years is enough time to repair credit, or making home payments on time for 2 years also allows someone with not so great credit to qualify for an FHA loan.

My new husband and I were able to refinance before the loan adjusted, but many people could not get their home appraised for enough to get refinanced due to the drop in home prices. While people would like to blame Clinton for passing the original legislation, they need to look into the deregulation that has happened since he signed that legislation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 AM on 12/02/2008
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It's the American Culture of living beyond your means, convience, rampant consumerism, with a buy now pay later mentality. The bill's come due and now many can't pay. People made bad decisions on buying homes, regardless of whether the lenders were on the up and up, it's ultimately up to the buyer to make sure they can afford what they're purchasing. Too many people made knee-jerk decisions, bought homes that were a financial stretch in the first place, didn't factor in overhead, upkeep, insurance, property taxes, HOA fees, etc, and when the interest rates went up, they're out in the streets.

People have, and continue to buy buy buy, on credit, or down to thier last dime. They continue to go to Starbucks and spend $5 on a coffee that would cost about $1 if they made it at home.

Water finds its own level. There was a massive explosion of retail in the past few years. Now many of those are going out of business. How many places do you need that sell bath towels? The Big 3 auto companies didn't plan ahead and contiued to churn out massive SUVs while Toyota and Honda focused on fuel efficent, affordable, highly reliable cars.

The American consumer is the main culprit of this recession.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 12/01/2008

It doesn't help that the redistribution of wealth to 5% has eaten up all disposable income for middle class! We account for 70% of the Gross National Product. If we don't have the money to spend, the economy also stalls. There were many contributing factors in this meltdown, mortgages and credit being part of it. Unfortunately, many Americans have had to rely on credit to feed their families.

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http://www.cbpp.org/3-29-07inc.htm

http://www.cbpp.org/3-27-08tax2.pdf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 AM on 12/02/2008

I guess it is the American consumer is faulted that 1 million people have lost their jobs this year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 AM on 12/02/2008
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