Big Three survival bailout requests rise to $34B

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JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and TOM KRISHER | December 2, 2008 07:32 PM EST | AP

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Jim Press, president and vice chairman of Chrysler, left, talks with workers at the AMPORTS ATC Terminal before addressing a town hall rally, Tuesday Dec. 2, 2008, in Baltimore. (AP Photo/Rob Carr)

WASHINGTON — Humbled and fighting for survival, Detroit's once-mighty automakers appealed to Congress with a retooled case for a bailout as large as $34 billion Tuesday, pledging to slash workers, car lines and executive pay in return for a federal lifeline. GM and Chrysler said they needed an immediate cash infusion to last 'til New Year's, and warned they could drag the entire industry down if they fail.

Chrysler LLC said it needed $7 billion by year's end, and General Motors Corp. asked for a quick $4 billion as just the first installment of as much as $18 billion to stay afloat and weather even worse economic storms. Ford Motor Co. had a more upbeat report, but the other two members of the U.S. Big Three painted the direst portraits to date _ including the prospects of shuttered factories and massive job losses _ of what could happen if Congress doesn't quickly step in.

"Failing to act now will hurt many American families and undermine our country's economic recovery, far outweighing the costs related to supporting an industry that touches every district in every state of the nation," Chrysler said.

"There isn't a Plan B," said GM Chief Operating Officer Fritz Henderson. "Absent support, frankly, the company just can't fund its operations."

New sales figures underscored the seriousness of the situation. U.S. light vehicle sales at General Motors and Chrysler plunged more than 40 percent in November, while Ford's sales dropped 31 percent, battered by an economic storm that has sent consumer demand for new vehicles to lows not seen in decades.

Democratic leaders have said they might call Congress back next week to pass an auto bailout _ but only if the carmakers' blueprints show the carmakers have reasonable plans to stay viable with the help.

Making no commitments, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Tuesday, "We want to see a commitment to the future. We want to see a restructuring of their approach, that they have a new business model, a new business plan." She said, "it is my hope that we would" pass legislation to help the industry.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he would try to jump-start debate Monday on an auto bailout measure. "We have to make sure we do everything we can to take care of the auto industry," he said. "I hope we can do something."

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Nervous investors sent the Dow Jones industrials bouncing up and down all day, though they finished up 270 points, partly making up for Monday's plunge of nearly 680.

All three companies' plans envision the government getting a stake in the auto companies that would allow taxpayers to share in future gains if they recover.

Along with detailed stabilization plans, the auto executives were offering up a hefty dose of humility and a host of symbolic concessions designed to repair their images, badly tattered after they arrived in Washington last month on three separate private jets to plead for federal help.

Ford CEO Alan Mulally, GM CEO Rick Wagoner and Chrysler chief Bob Nardelli all planned to road-trip the 520 miles from Detroit to Washington in fuel-efficient hybrid cars for hearings on Thursday and Friday.

Mulally and Wagoner both said they'd work for $1 per year _ something Chrysler's plan said Nardelli already does _ if their firms took any government loan money, while Ford offered to cancel management bonuses and salaried employees' merit raises next year, and GM said it would slash top executives' pay. Ford and GM both said they would sell their corporate aircraft.

The executives are going out of their way to show deference to lawmakers and a willingness to flog themselves for past mistakes. "I think we learned a lot from that experience," Mulally told The Associated Press in an interview.

Ford, in far better shape than GM and Chrysler, asked for a $9 billion "standby line of credit" to stabilize its business but said it didn't expect to tap the funds unless one of Detroit's other Big Three went bust. Its plan projected Ford would break even or turn a pretax profit in 2011.

The company plans to cut its number of dealers by more than 600, to 3,790 by the end of the year.

The unions were preparing to make sacrifices as well. United Auto Workers leaders summoned local union leaders from across the country to an emergency meeting Wednesday in Detroit to discuss possible concessions. Up for discussion were the possibility of scrapping a much-maligned jobs bank in which laid-off workers keep receiving most of their pay and postponing the automakers' payments into a multibillion-dollar union-administered health care fund.

U.S. automakers are struggling to stay afloat heading into 2009 under the weight of an economic meltdown, the worst auto sales in decades and a tight credit market. The three burned through nearly $18 billion in cash reserves during the past quarter.

Ford's recovery blueprint said it would invest $14 billion over the next seven years to boost its vehicles' fuel efficiency, and it said it would improve the overall efficiency of its fleet by an average of 14 percent next year. The company plans to speed its rollout of electric and hybrid gas-electric vehicles.

And Ford is calling for a partnership among automakers, parts suppliers and the government to develop new battery technologies domestically, so the U.S. doesn't have to rely on foreign batteries _ as it now does on foreign oil _ to power its cars.

Besides cutting its number of dealers, it will trim its major sourcing suppliers by more than half, to 750 from 1,600.

GM said it would make huge cuts in its numbers of workers as well as reductions in its vehicle brands and plants by 2012. The auto giant is seeking a $12 billion loan to keep it running, plus a $6 billion line of credit in case market conditions worsen.

GM would focus on four brands _ Chevrolet, GMC, Buick and Cadillac. By 2012, the plan calls for 20,000 to 30,000 fewer workers, a reduction of nine facilities and 1,750 fewer dealers. The company also outlined efforts to negotiate swapping some of the company's debt for equity stakes in the automaker.

Chrysler said it would cut costs by slashing employee benefits _ including suspending its match portion of the 401(k) retirement plan and reducing its health care contribution for salaried workers _ and terminating its lease car program. It said it would also ask more productivity of each employee.

Chrysler's product plan includes the first full-function electric-drive model in 2010 and expansion to additional models by 2013. The company's market penetration of electric-drive vehicles will further increase with over 500,000 produced by 2013, the blueprint said.

GM, according to its quarterly report filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, owes creditors $45 billion and it must pay more than $7.5 billion early in 2010 to a UAW-administered trust fund that will take over retiree health care payments.

Ford owes more than $26 billion, with $6.3 billion due to its UAW trust fund at the end of 2009. Chrysler, a private company, does not have to open its books, but its CEO, Nardelli, has said it would be difficult for the company to make it without federal aid. All three likely are negotiating with the UAW for delays in payments to the trusts.

The companies are resisting calls that they file for bankruptcy, arguing that no one would buy a car from an automaker that might not survive the life of the vehicle.

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Tom Krisher reported from Detroit. AP Writer Ken Thomas contributed from Washington.

WASHINGTON — Humbled and fighting for survival, Detroit's once-mighty automakers appealed to Congress with a retooled case for a bailout as large as $34 billion Tuesday, pledging to slash worker...
WASHINGTON — Humbled and fighting for survival, Detroit's once-mighty automakers appealed to Congress with a retooled case for a bailout as large as $34 billion Tuesday, pledging to slash worker...
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Hey I got an idea all you loyal flag waving ,apple pie eating, baseball loving, forth of July cooking hamburger eating, Americans who drive NISSAN TOYOTA AND HONDA..shat up....bail the big three out..period..and go buy some american steel......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 12/03/2008

1$/Yr my A.. How about all the perks they have. Mulaly flies every weekend to WA on a private Jet,

How about all the options they get?

Hypocrites

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 12/03/2008

Three Blind Mice...see how they beg...see how they cry.
They spent the money on stupid retreats. They spent the money on expensive homes.
They spent the money without any remorse...Three Blind Mice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 12/03/2008

Rather than taking an annual salary of $1.00. These guys should take it up the arse, while spending a few years in the "big house." Wagner, in particular, is a c-bag (colostomy bag, that is).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 12/02/2008
- OtayPanky I'm a Fan of OtayPanky 74 fans permalink
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What we have here is a deadly embrace between the big three and the American public. Or, if you prefer, a siamese twin situation where we're joined at the viscera.

Cutting them loose and allowing market forces to work will take a fierce toll on all of us. Bailing them out - with or without a change in management - will also take a toll.

The question is: which is the lesser of two evils?

From what I can see - and from what smart folks seem to be saying - the bailout, even though it is admittedly a gamble, makes more sense than allowing these companies to die at this difficult time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 12/02/2008
- 111 I'm a Fan of 111 34 fans permalink

I don't understand why the fact that this $25 billion dollar loan was approved by our senate last year in the energy bill is being ignored.

"The $25 billion direct-loan program was set up by the 2007 energy law to offset automakers' plant and technology costs to make more fuel-efficient cars. But Congress has yet to fund the loans, which will be administered by the Federal Financing Bank and also allow recipients to defer loan payments for up to five years."

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/manufacturing/2008-09-24-automaker-loans-detroit_N.htm

Too much media attention without all of the facts means, to me, that something else is up. Corporate heads keep pointing to labor and talking heads are saying that unions will have to give something up regardless of these $1 salaries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 12/02/2008
- kae I'm a Fan of kae 4 fans permalink

$1 salaries? How about resignations? But I guess they are in the privileged tax bracket so - ooops! and my bad :-( should suffice for this congress...this is all just a big democracy show---the people are angry! you did it wrong! tsk tsk! we can't just give you the $$ now....go back and hide your jet then ask again later....congress will give you the taxpayer ATM password when the nation forgets you are the reason we have seas of gas-guzzling SUVs instead of anything resembling american-made state-of-the-art fuel efficiency... Let's keep ignoring the fact that the oil & auto industries have spent huge sums keeping the status quo---huge sums lobbying congress - kinda like the huge sums they are now asking of congress - I used to bar tend in college and the alcoholics on pay day were always happy to tip well but at the end of the day--after they drank all their $$$ you could always count on them to come back and ask for a beer on the house because they had so generously tipped earlier!

no government here folks just criminals and their enablers

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 12/02/2008
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 87 fans permalink

Don't you forget about Jack Welch for a minute, he's the GE man who took more home in benefits than salary and has millions of dollars in his pension fund... These fellows need to give up their pensions as well and make their financial statements public as welll as their income taxe reports for the last 5 years,,,,

This did not happen overnight!!! These executives have run roughshod under the Reagan REGIME and need to be hauled in....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 12/02/2008

I'm not impressed. I would like to see their salaries capped at the same as the POTUS ($400,000 per year) with bonuses and extras capped also. I would rather they worked for a reasonable salary than this grandstanding tactic which could be completely meaningless if the board votes for unrestricted add-ons. I don't think anyone in this world is worth the salaries that these guys currently bring in. And while we're at it, bring the salaries of the workers up to a living wage level.

I can dream, can't I?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 12/02/2008
- BillyMae I'm a Fan of BillyMae 7 fans permalink

I don't care if they crawl to DC. I do not want my taxes bailing out these failures. Let the shareholders come to their defense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 12/02/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 305 fans permalink

The minumum cost to tax payers if they go under is estimated at 200 billion.. with the high side of 3 trillion... and you were saying? There is unemployment insurance, then there are the lost property taxes and income taxes. Of course many pension funds state and private have their Bonds/Notes. So states must raise taxes to offset those losses to their pension funds... Also the government under ERISA will pick up the pension costs for millions of workers. You are talking 3 million jobs..to as many as 20 million in an economy thats losing now 400K jobs per month and has not produced any private sector jobs in 8 years.

There will be welfare and food stamps. Of course many more homes will be foreclosed and that will increase the cost of the financial bailout many fold...

The U.S. MFG will be down from 32% of GDP in 1980 to 4% now and take America down the tubes for decades, increase our trade deficts and huge budget deficits..


In all likelihood this will bring on a Depression. The last one last 15 years and took WW2 to end.

And of course all car companies aorund the world are asking for bailouts/help... In Europe they are looking at 100 billion.

If the economy stays like this, no automaker... not even a Toyota will survive w/o government assistance and they already get plenty (workers healthcare paid for, research and development paid for, interest free loans)!

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 12/02/2008

Pure rubbish and fear mongering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 12/02/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 305 fans permalink

And of course we will all pickup the healthcare cost/medicaind for the increased unemployment.

The bailout will take ultimately 100 billion and is a bargain compared to the alternative.

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 12/02/2008

I'll take the alternative any time, if it will bring sense to the Big3 and UAW. Quick surveys of posts, it's 3:1 in favor no bailout.

And oh yeah - fear mongering, it's working less these days. If you want some help, lose that attitude.!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 12/02/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 305 fans permalink

Interesting fact on Toyota.. fleet mileage in spite of Prius and hybreds is lower than 21 years ago.


"Even though the addition of bigger trucks and sport-utilities has brought its corporate average fuel economy down from 26 mpg in 1987 to 24 mpg today, according to EPA figures released this week",


Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 12/02/2008

All based on US car manufacturer lobbying of Congress for no increase in EPA standards. You got what they were lobbying for. Cool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 12/02/2008
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 51 fans permalink

im willing to put up if china ,mexico and canada does.we put there people to work to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 12/02/2008

Now we have the proof that there really is no justice in this world.

I could use that dollar a lot better than those CEOs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 12/02/2008
- Samalabear I'm a Fan of Samalabear 71 fans permalink
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Any further bailout on Wall Street we need lots of concessions and the $1 salary for the CEOs looks very good, especially if AIG comes slinking back for more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 12/02/2008
- Harpseal60 I'm a Fan of Harpseal60 7 fans permalink
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Well, whoop di flippin do! So they will work for 1 dollar now? HA!

Working for only a buck is not going to be too much of a hardship for these jerks because all they have to do is sell a mansion or two and they will have enough to live on for the year.
Maybe they could also sell their wives furs, diamonds, sports cars, summer homes, and on and on and on. Poor babies, their wives might have to go a whole year without plastic surgery!

We can't afford to keep bailing out all these companies. Let them go bankrupt! Those who become unemployed due to bankrupcy will find new jobs when they restructure the auto industry and finally begin making vehicles that are green, affordable to purchase and are as reliable as foreign made cars.

These current CEO's need to be fired and the new ones should be required to sign a contract that states that they can't ever make more per year than the highest paid factory worker does.
No more expensive dinners, trips, and private jets. They fly coach...just like the rest of us peasants do.

This is a chance to fix an industry that is broken with new inventions and ideas. We have to catch up with other countries in the world, or we will be left in the dust.

Bailouts are just bandaids. Major change is needed in order for the auto industry to grow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 12/02/2008

if i made $20 mil last yr. i'll work for a buck this yr. too

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 12/02/2008

the sad thing is that they honestly thought they were worth 20 million a year. such is the thinking of a person with a large economy size hubris. (from a woody allen story)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 12/02/2008
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