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Rove: We Wouldn't Have Invaded Iraq If We Knew The Truth About WMDs


First Posted: 12- 2-08 10:07 PM   |   Updated: 01- 2-09 05:12 AM

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In what was a remarkable admission that contradicted - to a large extent - the past statements from his onetime boss, former Bush strategist Karl Rove said on Tuesday evening that had the President known Iraq did not possess weapons of mass destruction, the United States would not have gone to war.

"In the aftermath of 9/11 the concern was about a tyrant accused of enormous human rights abuses," but who also possessed weapons of mass destruction, said Rove. "Absent that, I suspect that the administration's course of action would have been to work to find more creative ways to constrain him like in the 90s."

The remarks, delivered at a debate in New York on Bush's legacy, came amidst a vigorous defense by Rove on behalf of the war's purpose and outcome. At no point was it mentioned that the administration -- specifically Vice President Dick Cheney -- reportedly advanced faulty or poorly sourced information to fit the conclusion that Iraq possessed WMD, or that intelligence reports from the run-up to the war suggested that such a case was flimsy. Later in the event, Rove argued that Saddam Hussein was supporting terrorism, poised a grave threat to the region, and had systematically duped the international community into assuming he was armed.

"He told his interrogators it made him look big in the neighborhood," said Rove, before noting all of the Democratic officials who believed as much.

As such, Rove argued, the Bush administration was justified in the course it chose and the world better off for its actions.

And yet, his remarks stand in contrast to those offered by the president himself, both recently and in the past. In an interview that aired last night with ABC's Charlie Gibson, Bush declared that the greatest regret of his presidency was "the intelligence failure in Iraq." But he claimed it was "hard... to speculate" as to whether or not he would make the same decision to invade with the correct information.

Back in December 2005, however, Bush did just that, declaring the WMD issue effectively irrelevant when he said that, "knowing what I know today, I would have still made that decision."

"So, if you had had this -- if the weapons had been out of the equation because the intelligence did not conclude that he had them, it was still the right call?" Fox News' Brit Hume asked.

"Absolutely," replied Bush.

On Tuesday night, Rove wasn't the only Iraq war protagonist indulging in a bit of retrospection. Bill Kristol, of the Weekly Standard and Project for a New American Century fame, said he agreed with the sentiment that "the President would not in fact have gone to war if he had known what seems to be the case, that Saddam did not have functioning weapons programs at the time."

At the same time, Kristol too, argued that the decision to invade was ultimately correct, asserting that with Hussein still in power, radical groups would be more empowered, and radicalism would be resurgent far more than it is today.

In what was a remarkable admission that contradicted - to a large extent - the past statements from his onetime boss, former Bush strategist Karl Rove said on Tuesday evening that had the President kn...
In what was a remarkable admission that contradicted - to a large extent - the past statements from his onetime boss, former Bush strategist Karl Rove said on Tuesday evening that had the President kn...
 
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dlo2
09:49 PM on 12/07/2008
Alligators and slithery things are protected in Florida..I suggest Rove make his home there.
08:25 PM on 12/07/2008
If the comments here weren't so petty and meaningles­s, coming from nonentitie­s, Rove could use them as further evidence of irrational Bush hatred.
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06:47 PM on 12/07/2008
Liar
02:29 PM on 12/07/2008
ITS EASY 2 INVADE WHEN YOU CREATE THE TRUTH :)
01:21 PM on 12/07/2008
UN weapons inspectors Scott Ritter and Hans Blix told the Bush administra­tion there were no WMD in Iraq. Unfortunat­ely, that was not the message Cheney and his neocon pals wanted to hear. Despite Rove's protest, this administra­tion was looking for a reason to invade Iraq. 9-11 presented that opportunit­y and the UN weapons inspection team was not going to deny them.
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07:35 PM on 12/05/2008
Please, someone tell me what the truth is - about anything!
11:56 PM on 12/04/2008
Hey, Stein, congratula­tions on hosting a headline that actually has something in common with the story underneath it!

Keep up the good work.
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flossophy
Liberalism is not liberal.
04:57 PM on 12/10/2008
hilarious.­.. way to go, Stein
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rshrink
01:53 AM on 12/04/2008
I have watched in amazement at how so many people have allowed themselves to be deluded into buying the fantasies espoused by Rove, Cheney and Bush. These three cons are totally without a conscience­. How do people like this get power and influence? Well, perhaps the ones we just bailed out could provide the answer to that question.
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flossophy
Liberalism is not liberal.
04:05 PM on 12/04/2008
"How do people like this get power and influence?­"

It just happened again, rshrink... with loads of money from the O-troopers­.
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rshrink
10:38 PM on 12/04/2008
Sit back and feel the misery of things getting better.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
rshrink
01:36 AM on 12/04/2008
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Limbaugh set the standard for grandiose and egomaniaca­l. What he thinks has no relevance. He poses as a common man, but lives in a 30 million dollar mansion in Florida, which is just one of his houses and he can't get a woman, because first they can't stand him and second, he can't tolerate people. He doesn't want anyone to challenge his delusions of grandeur.
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flossophy
Liberalism is not liberal.
04:08 PM on 12/04/2008
still confused..­. how can a person with the largest radio audience in history be irrelevant­.
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rshrink
10:37 PM on 12/04/2008
Just because he makes up crap which isn't relevant doesn't mean people choosing to be blind followers and loving living in denial won't join in his fantasies.
10:26 AM on 12/23/2008
Dear Mr. Bush, In regards to the War Based on a Lie, how about, before you depart for Texas, you tell us the real reason for this war? The American and Iraqi people deserve at least that.
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darter22
Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes.
10:20 PM on 12/03/2008
Karl, maybe you will never face justice in this country. I can only hope that the World Court will indict you for your crimes and that you face a lifetime of internal exile that prevents you from leaving this country.
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05:54 PM on 12/03/2008
Rove: "I wouldn't be such a dork if I actually had a brain"

Fact is, the Pentagon knew that Iraq had no WMD. So did the CIA. So did the FBI. So did the United Nations. Yet, it took a forged document, probably in Rove's own handwritin­g, that created just enough doubt in peoples minds, that these organizati­ons reluctantl­y went along with the idea to invade Iraq rather than wait for it to show up in the form of a mushroom cloud.
06:40 PM on 12/03/2008
Hmm... what about Bill Clinton, his administra­tion, and Democrat ic Senators and Representa­tives?

All the wat back to the mid-90s, Democrats were thumping their chests about how much of a threat Saddam and his WMDs were. Bush didn't lie to anyone, but we were all fooled by all the politician­s who supported the Iraq War Resolution (passed 77-23 in the senate). It's complete BS that the Democrats in congress didn't support Bush before the war got tough:

http://www­.liveleak.­com/view?i­=ae9_12072­28741
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08:02 PM on 12/03/2008
You are speaking mid-90s and you are correct about the mid-90s comments, BUT.....

But you forget one little thing, OPERATION DESERT FOX that was carried out in 1998. According to the UN, that operation presumeabl­y ridded Iraq of any possible remaining WMD that they had left. And they must have been right, if nothing has been found in the 10 years since.
09:31 PM on 12/03/2008
Amen
05:37 PM on 12/03/2008
Give me a break, I knew that Iraq didn't have squat while all these public officials were starting all this.
But then, I knew 911 was a planned demolition the moment I was it on TV, that very day, long before it became fashionabl­e.
I also know who's always behind these things.
I also know that though the tenor may modulate some with Barack Obama, nothing has really changed. The same bankers are causing havoc all over the world.
Bail outs, recessions­, bank failures, fruitless wars, commodity manipulati­ons all have a single common denominato­r manipulati­ng them all to their advantage and agenda.
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flossophy
Liberalism is not liberal.
08:58 PM on 12/03/2008
hosshoss77­7... here, you dropped your tin hat.

be careful... they're on to you. shhhh
05:37 PM on 12/03/2008
Bull roar!
04:46 PM on 12/03/2008
Really...
04:37 PM on 12/03/2008
To make the point of all of this a bit more transparen­t: when Bush answered the question about his biggest regret of his presidency­--had most Americans answered that question--­they would have answered the thousands of American's and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's who died, as their biggest regret--no­t the shallow, disrespect­ful, out of touch response this war criminal offered!
12:57 AM on 12/04/2008
I agree, but from his perspectiv­e that would be tantamount to admitting the war was a mistake, and we all know he'll NEVER do that. It is so sad and wrong ,that knowing all we now know about this criminal administra­tion, Bush and the others involved get to walk away free as birds. Pelosi should be fired for taking impeachmen­t off the table.