Rove: We Wouldn't Have Invaded Iraq If We Knew The Truth About WMDs

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First Posted: 12- 2-08 10:07 PM   |   Updated: 01- 2-09 05:12 AM

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Karl Rove

In what was a remarkable admission that contradicted - to a large extent - the past statements from his onetime boss, former Bush strategist Karl Rove said on Tuesday evening that had the President known Iraq did not possess weapons of mass destruction, the United States would not have gone to war.

"In the aftermath of 9/11 the concern was about a tyrant accused of enormous human rights abuses," but who also possessed weapons of mass destruction, said Rove. "Absent that, I suspect that the administration's course of action would have been to work to find more creative ways to constrain him like in the 90s."

The remarks, delivered at a debate in New York on Bush's legacy, came amidst a vigorous defense by Rove on behalf of the war's purpose and outcome. At no point was it mentioned that the administration -- specifically Vice President Dick Cheney -- reportedly advanced faulty or poorly sourced information to fit the conclusion that Iraq possessed WMD, or that intelligence reports from the run-up to the war suggested that such a case was flimsy. Later in the event, Rove argued that Saddam Hussein was supporting terrorism, poised a grave threat to the region, and had systematically duped the international community into assuming he was armed.

"He told his interrogators it made him look big in the neighborhood," said Rove, before noting all of the Democratic officials who believed as much.

As such, Rove argued, the Bush administration was justified in the course it chose and the world better off for its actions.

And yet, his remarks stand in contrast to those offered by the president himself, both recently and in the past. In an interview that aired last night with ABC's Charlie Gibson, Bush declared that the greatest regret of his presidency was "the intelligence failure in Iraq." But he claimed it was "hard... to speculate" as to whether or not he would make the same decision to invade with the correct information.

Back in December 2005, however, Bush did just that, declaring the WMD issue effectively irrelevant when he said that, "knowing what I know today, I would have still made that decision."

"So, if you had had this -- if the weapons had been out of the equation because the intelligence did not conclude that he had them, it was still the right call?" Fox News' Brit Hume asked.

"Absolutely," replied Bush.

On Tuesday night, Rove wasn't the only Iraq war protagonist indulging in a bit of retrospection. Bill Kristol, of the Weekly Standard and Project for a New American Century fame, said he agreed with the sentiment that "the President would not in fact have gone to war if he had known what seems to be the case, that Saddam did not have functioning weapons programs at the time."

At the same time, Kristol too, argued that the decision to invade was ultimately correct, asserting that with Hussein still in power, radical groups would be more empowered, and radicalism would be resurgent far more than it is today.

In what was a remarkable admission that contradicted - to a large extent - the past statements from his onetime boss, former Bush strategist Karl Rove said on Tuesday evening that had the President kn...
In what was a remarkable admission that contradicted - to a large extent - the past statements from his onetime boss, former Bush strategist Karl Rove said on Tuesday evening that had the President kn...
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- dlo2 I'm a Fan of dlo2 11 fans permalink

Alligators and slithery things are protected in Florida..I suggest Rove make his home there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 12/07/2008
- SailFree I'm a Fan of SailFree 29 fans permalink

If the comments here weren't so petty and meaningless, coming from nonentities, Rove could use them as further evidence of irrational Bush hatred.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 12/07/2008
- samaire I'm a Fan of samaire 15 fans permalink
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Liar

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 12/07/2008
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ITS EASY 2 INVADE WHEN YOU CREATE THE TRUTH :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 12/07/2008

UN weapons inspectors Scott Ritter and Hans Blix told the Bush administration there were no WMD in Iraq. Unfortunately, that was not the message Cheney and his neocon pals wanted to hear. Despite Rove's protest, this administration was looking for a reason to invade Iraq. 9-11 presented that opportunity and the UN weapons inspection team was not going to deny them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 12/07/2008
- Chip W I'm a Fan of Chip W 18 fans permalink

Please, someone tell me what the truth is - about anything!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 12/05/2008

Hey, Stein, congratulations on hosting a headline that actually has something in common with the story underneath it!

Keep up the good work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 12/04/2008
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 324 fans permalink
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hilarious... way to go, Stein

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 12/10/2008
- rshrink I'm a Fan of rshrink 57 fans permalink

I have watched in amazement at how so many people have allowed themselves to be deluded into buying the fantasies espoused by Rove, Cheney and Bush. These three cons are totally without a conscience. How do people like this get power and influence? Well, perhaps the ones we just bailed out could provide the answer to that question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 12/04/2008
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 324 fans permalink
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"How do people like this get power and influence?"

It just happened again, rshrink... with loads of money from the O-troopers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 12/04/2008
- rshrink I'm a Fan of rshrink 57 fans permalink

Sit back and feel the misery of things getting better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 12/04/2008
- rshrink I'm a Fan of rshrink 57 fans permalink

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Limbaugh set the standard for grandiose and egomaniacal. What he thinks has no relevance. He poses as a common man, but lives in a 30 million dollar mansion in Florida, which is just one of his houses and he can't get a woman, because first they can't stand him and second, he can't tolerate people. He doesn't want anyone to challenge his delusions of grandeur.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 12/04/2008
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 324 fans permalink
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still confused... how can a person with the largest radio audience in history be irrelevant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 12/04/2008
- rshrink I'm a Fan of rshrink 57 fans permalink

Just because he makes up crap which isn't relevant doesn't mean people choosing to be blind followers and loving living in denial won't join in his fantasies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 12/04/2008
- darter22 I'm a Fan of darter22 12 fans permalink

Karl, maybe you will never face justice in this country. I can only hope that the World Court will indict you for your crimes and that you face a lifetime of internal exile that prevents you from leaving this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 12/03/2008
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 166 fans permalink
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Rove: "I wouldn't be such a dork if I actually had a brain"

Fact is, the Pentagon knew that Iraq had no WMD. So did the CIA. So did the FBI. So did the United Nations. Yet, it took a forged document, probably in Rove's own handwriting, that created just enough doubt in peoples minds, that these organizations reluctantly went along with the idea to invade Iraq rather than wait for it to show up in the form of a mushroom cloud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 12/03/2008
- RuckHumper I'm a Fan of RuckHumper 2 fans permalink

Hmm... what about Bill Clinton, his administration, and Democrat ic Senators and Representatives?

All the wat back to the mid-90s, Democrats were thumping their chests about how much of a threat Saddam and his WMDs were. Bush didn't lie to anyone, but we were all fooled by all the politicians who supported the Iraq War Resolution (passed 77-23 in the senate). It's complete BS that the Democrats in congress didn't support Bush before the war got tough:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ae9_1207228741

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 12/03/2008
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 166 fans permalink
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You are speaking mid-90s and you are correct about the mid-90s comments, BUT.....

But you forget one little thing, OPERATION DESERT FOX that was carried out in 1998. According to the UN, that operation presumeably ridded Iraq of any possible remaining WMD that they had left. And they must have been right, if nothing has been found in the 10 years since.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 12/03/2008
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Give me a break, I knew that Iraq didn't have squat while all these public officials were starting all this.
But then, I knew 911 was a planned demolition the moment I was it on TV, that very day, long before it became fashionable.
I also know who's always behind these things.
I also know that though the tenor may modulate some with Barack Obama, nothing has really changed. The same bankers are causing havoc all over the world.
Bail outs, recessions, bank failures, fruitless wars, commodity manipulations all have a single common denominator manipulating them all to their advantage and agenda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 12/03/2008
- flossophy I'm a Fan of flossophy 324 fans permalink
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hosshoss777... here, you dropped your tin hat.

be careful... they're on to you. shhhh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 12/03/2008

Bull roar!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 12/03/2008

Really...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 12/03/2008

To make the point of all of this a bit more transparent: when Bush answered the question about his biggest regret of his presidency--had most Americans answered that question--they would have answered the thousands of American's and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's who died, as their biggest regret--not the shallow, disrespectful, out of touch response this war criminal offered!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 12/03/2008

I agree, but from his perspective that would be tantamount to admitting the war was a mistake, and we all know he'll NEVER do that. It is so sad and wrong ,that knowing all we now know about this criminal administration, Bush and the others involved get to walk away free as birds. Pelosi should be fired for taking impeachment off the table.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 12/04/2008
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