Sean Avery Suspended From NHL For Elisha Cuthbert "Sloppy Seconds" Remark (VIDEO)

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JAIME ARON | December 2, 2008 11:16 PM EST | AP

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In this Nov. 20, 2008, file photo, Dallas Stars center Sean Avery moves the puck during an NHL hockey game against the Chicago Blackhawks in Dallas. The NHL has suspended Avery indefinitely pending a hearing with commissioner Gary Bettman. The league says the suspension was imposed Tuesday, Dec. 2, after Avery made "inappropriate public comments, not pertaining to the game." (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez, File)

DALLAS — Of all the cajoling, snide remarks and other stunts Sean Avery pulled on the way to becoming the biggest pest in hockey, never had he gone so far that the NHL suspended him _ until Tuesday.

Avery was punished indefinitely by commissioner Gary Bettman for using a crude term about his former girlfriends now dating other hockey players. Bettman acted within hours, in time to keep Avery out of the Dallas Stars' game against the Calgary Flames on Tuesday night.

Avery's inflammatory line came following a morning skate in Calgary, Alberta. Reporters were waiting to speak with Avery about disparaging remarks he'd made last month about Flames star Jarome Iginla when Avery walked over to the group and asked if there was a camera present. When told there was, he said, "I'm just going to say one thing."

"I'm really happy to be back in Calgary; I love Canada," he said. "I just want to comment on how it's become like a common thing in the NHL for guys to fall in love with my (former girlfriends). I don't know what that's about, but enjoy the game tonight." He then walked out of the locker room.

Avery's ex-girlfriend, actress Elisha Cuthbert of the television show "24" and the movie "Old School," is dating Calgary defenseman Dion Phaneuf; she had been romantically linked to Mike Komisarek of the Montreal Canadiens. Avery also dated Rachel Hunter, the former Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover model and actress who is now the girlfriend of Los Angeles Kings center Jarrett Stoll.

Bettman said Avery made "inappropriate public comments, not pertaining to the game." The two will meet before the length of the suspension is determined. That get-together is likely to happen soon.

"I completely support the league's decision to suspend Sean Avery," Stars owner Tom Hicks said in a statement. "Had the league not have suspended him, the Dallas Stars would have. This organization will not tolerate such behavior, especially from a member of our hockey team. We hold our team to a higher standard and will continue to do so."

Avery is the kind of player who delights in doing or saying something to get under the skin of opponents and their fans. He's led the league in penalty minutes twice, and was doing so again going into Tuesday. He's not only often called the most hated player in the NHL, he loves hearing it.

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"I like to push it to the edge, no doubt about it," Avery said this summer, after signing a $15.5 million, four-year deal with the Stars. "That's how I play. That's how I live. That's what I'm all about."

His most infamous tactic came during last season's playoffs, while with the New York Rangers, when he stood in front of New Jersey goalie Martin Brodeur, waving his hand and stick in the goalie's face to block his view. The next day, the league put in the so-called "Avery Rule" to prohibit such shenanigans.

Avery has been fined by the league and was once suspended by the Los Angeles Kings. Other players have been suspended for retaliating against Avery, including Chicago's Ben Eager getting a three-game suspension for swinging his stick at Avery. However, this is the first time in his seven-year career that the NHL has taken him off the ice.

"Maybe they decided that this one crossed the line further than all the others," said Stars co-general manager Brett Hull, who played with Avery in Detroit several years ago and was a driving force signing him.

"More than anything, he's let his teammates down. That's the worst part of it," Hull said. "It's basically a fundamental _ you don't embarrass the team and you carry yourself with class and good character. I've told him before, there's more to the game than just lacing up the skates. There are things you have to be accountable for."

Despite his tough-guy image in his job, Avery has cultivated another image in his private life: Fashionista. He's pursued his interest in the fashion world by interning with Vogue magazine. He's broken into pop culture through appearances on MTV and in tabloid gossip columns; he also grabbed a spot on People's "Sexiest Scars" list in 2007 for a gash on his lip.

The Stars signed him in hopes that his grittiness would boost last season's Western Conference finalists. Instead, the injury-riddled Stars went into Tuesday night's game with only 20 points, fewest in the Western Conference and near the bottom of the NHL. Avery had 77 penalty minutes in 23 games. He also had three goals and seven assists.

Avery and Iginla were to meet on the ice for the first time since Avery told ESPN "the NHL does a terrible job of marketing" by not promoting its "villains," and that "nobody cares about Jarome Iginla and guys like that, they're just not exciting enough."

The Stars and Flames meet three more times. Next is Feb. 3 in Dallas; the Stars return to Calgary on March 18.

Teammates were in the locker room when Avery spoke Tuesday, but didn't necessarily hear his interview. Told what he said, most were not surprised.

"We expect that out of him like we have all year," said goaltender Marty Turco, who was critical of Avery's agitation of Brodeur during the playoffs when it happened. "You know, the show continues."

Avery broke into the NHL in 2001-02 with Detroit. He was traded to the Kings during the following season, then was sent to the Rangers in 2007, with his arrival sparking a playoff run. Although he then matched his career best in goals with 15 in 2007-08, the Rangers didn't try bringing him back. His tenure ended with a lacerated spleen against Pittsburgh, which required a stay in intensive care.

Avery makes $3.5 million this season and $4 million each of the next three years. His Dallas contract also includes a limited no-trade clause.

DALLAS — Of all the cajoling, snide remarks and other stunts Sean Avery pulled on the way to becoming the biggest pest in hockey, never had he gone so far that the NHL suspended him _ until Tues...
DALLAS — Of all the cajoling, snide remarks and other stunts Sean Avery pulled on the way to becoming the biggest pest in hockey, never had he gone so far that the NHL suspended him _ until Tues...
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- coot I'm a Fan of coot 3 fans permalink

Maybe if he had something bigger it would'nt have been sloppy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 12/03/2008
- Vixter I'm a Fan of Vixter 11 fans permalink

Good one. When did Hockey become like tennis...y­ou know, act like a gentleman at all times?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 12/04/2008
- TTM I'm a Fan of TTM 5 fans permalink

Since Jean Beliveau played the game.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 12/04/2008
- aaawyeah I'm a Fan of aaawyeah 2 fans permalink
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here's some really sloppy seconds for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJeiclNpNSk

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 12/03/2008
- aaawyeah I'm a Fan of aaawyeah 2 fans permalink
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where's the video?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 12/03/2008
- RobHughey I'm a Fan of RobHughey 15 fans permalink
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Okay......­..

Why am I even reading this article? lol

So he said it's funny his ex-girlfriends seem to go around dating NHL players... and that's apparently quite true.... and he didn't use any profanity.­......

So first off: who cares? Secondly: why the big deal? And last: I think that the feigned indignity by the officials is actually quite worse than anything Avery said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 12/03/2008

sloppy seconds is profanity. That you don't think it is speaks volumes about what you must think of your mother/sis­ter/daught­er/wife.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 12/03/2008
- RobHughey I'm a Fan of RobHughey 15 fans permalink
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That you read my comment and immediately attacked my feelings for the most important people in my life (which would be mother and sister, as I'm single and have no children) speaks volumes about your character.­.. not mine.

"Sloppy Seconds" is gross if taken literally, thought that's hardly what Avery meant. It's icky but hardly profane.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 12/18/2008

She must be verrrry special for him to be this jealous! Perhaps golf ball and garden hose?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 12/03/2008

He was talking about two women, not one. Its in the article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 12/03/2008

Get Bruno to interview him! for the up-comming ( pun intended) movie. Avery knows more about model insides than Karl Lagerfeld about cross dressing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 12/03/2008
- PepeLepew I'm a Fan of PepeLepew 312 fans permalink
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Sean Avery, what a clown. What an embarrassment to the NHL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 12/03/2008

oh and pronger is any better?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 12/03/2008
- PepeLepew I'm a Fan of PepeLepew 312 fans permalink
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Did Pronger ever say anything this rude or gross in front of TV cameras? Not that I'm aware of!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 12/03/2008
- ctekin I'm a Fan of ctekin 8 fans permalink
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...because in a sport where bashing each other's faces in is part of the game, the last thing we want these players to do is act uncivilized.

What a lame story. The comment was funny, and the only person who has a right to be offended is The absolutely smoking Ms. Cuthbert. It is a sad world when a guy gets suspended for cracking on his ex. Give me a break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 12/03/2008
- TTM I'm a Fan of TTM 5 fans permalink

American Football is such a peaceful sport.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 12/03/2008

yeah dont forget about basketball and baseball..­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 12/03/2008
- ctekin I'm a Fan of ctekin 8 fans permalink
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I made no reference to American Football, which is, as you note, a very violent sport as well. I am just commenting on the obvious hypocrisy. As I understand it, fighting in hockey is penalized as a ten minute misconduct penalty (instigator) and a game misconduct penalty (aggressor).

Avery was suspended indefinitely for this comment about this ex and her current beau. I find it notable that rudeness, and his comment was very rude, is more offensive to the NHL brass than violence.

And also, I am a fan of the NHL, NFL, EPL, NBA, MMA and Boxing. I love sport, and accept the violence that is often associated with it. My point was that it seems we have an odd sensitivity to political correctness, and we are seemingly desensitized to violence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 12/04/2008
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 181 fans permalink
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One more comment, about the "trash talking" that is what was actually going on. The head game that athletes engage in. Obviously, being the team was in Calgary, it was directed at the guy who is dating his ex. While the comment is degrading to women, to be sure, it was pretty clear to me it was intended as a head game maneuver to make the guy play off his game later that night. I'm not excusing what he did or said, just that after doing research, I now know why he said it.

Unfortunately, it's something that's gone on in sports probably since forever. I remember my love, Eric "The King" Cantona being banned from the sport for his kung fu kick after a fan was trash talking him about his mother. And how Zinadane Zidane was kicked out of the World Cup FInals for retaliating against a trash talking Italian.

Perhaps sports should consider a zero tolerance policy on taunting/trash talking. Along with badly needed zero tolerance policies on demostic violence, hardcore drug use, acts of violence, breaking the law, etc. All those following crimes I list, largely go unpunished by the American leagues.

Which brings me to this conclusion. You can shoot someone, snort all of the cocaine you want, but you can't act childish and use the phrase "sloppy seconds".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 12/03/2008
- kensp I'm a Fan of kensp 8 fans permalink

Your right, he was trying to get Cuthbert's current boyfriend, Dion Phaneuf, who I can't stand but who is a very good player, off of his game.

From some of the comments I have read on this and a few hockey boards, I think there is a generation gap thing going on here as well. I have learned that a lot of younger guys actually do use the term "sloppy seconds" to refer to an ex-girlfriend and are apparently oblivious to the fact that the phrase was originally a graphic and extremely offensive description of sexual intercourse happening under very specific circumstances. I am not sure if Avery is oblivious to the older meaning or not. I would guess not, but it does explain why so many people can't figure out what is wrong with what he said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 12/03/2008
- ctekin I'm a Fan of ctekin 8 fans permalink
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How crazy was that when Cantona, who I love, kung-fu kicked a fan? What a crazy thing he did!

Actually, it is a very valid point that when in the heat of competition, violent responses to offensive remarks become somewhat more likely. I am not excusing them at all. I am not sure I agree with zero tolerance on taunting, but I think it is a good discussion to have.

Personally, I think that Zidane being ejected from the World Cup Final, is a terrible thing for thing for the fans and the sport. Zidane not being in the shootout was a travesty! And while his head butt was not a wise move, Materazzi was baiting him and saying extremely offensive things to him. This does not excuse it, but it does go a long way towards explaining it.

The adrenaline and intensity involved with competitive sports reduces ones ability to control impulses. That is just a fact. I can not make the point strongly enough that it does not excuse violence, but we are remiss to ignore this reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 12/04/2008
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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silly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 12/03/2008
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 181 fans permalink
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3740267

Leave it to ESPN to trump HuffPo in the department of journalistic integrity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 12/03/2008
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 181 fans permalink
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I don't see anywhere in the article that says "sloppy seconds". If he in fact said that, then why not print it? Whatever happened to something called JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY??

You don't just print an article, then fabricate a headline to say something that he didn't say!! That's what we call PROPAGANDA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 12/03/2008
- mymatrix I'm a Fan of mymatrix 6 fans permalink

I know...it isn't in the piece because he didn't say it so what the hell is with the headlines quotation remarks? Sloppy seconds is a far , far cry from what he actually said.
I am starting to see this type of headlining far too often on Huffpo and it is pissing me off.
Doesn't this break some journalistic law? Slander?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 12/03/2008

Actually, he did say the words "sloppy seconds." Watch the video... http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3740267

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 12/03/2008
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Sean if this is your typical sloppy seconds I take it off your hands any day! Hockey players have always had all the fun! The little dirty secret of the league is that most players are Peter in law with at least two to four other players minimum!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 12/03/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

Okay, now I get it...He actually DID say "sloppy seconds", it's just that they used the words
(former girlfriends) instead to make it sound more tasteful for print.
Well now that I know this, even though I was holding my judgement,
the guy has proven to be a worthless piece of shiite.
Any girl that has dated this guy should just deny that they ever knew him.
What a f**kin loser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 12/03/2008

funny how the text is replaced with (former girlfriends) but the headline certainly says it. Bad HuffPo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 12/03/2008
- Incumbent I'm a Fan of Incumbent 4 fans permalink

I might be wrong about this, but I think in Avery's quote "I just want to comment on how it's become like a common thing in the NHL for guys to fall in love with my (former girlfriends)", he actually said "sloppy seconds" in place of "former girlfriends" (since they were paraphrasing they put it in parentheses). I personally do find THAT offensive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 12/03/2008
- BartLA I'm a Fan of BartLA 19 fans permalink
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they substituted "former girlfriends" for sloppy seconds, which is what he really said. might as well have kept it in the original quote so everyone wouldn't get confused.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 12/03/2008

so, who cares if you find it offensive. No justification for NHL to suspend him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 12/03/2008
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