GM: Bankruptcy Not An Option For Industry

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TOM KRISHER and KIMBERLY S. JOHNSON | December 3, 2008 08:58 PM EST | AP

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General Motors employee Terry Murphy, left, carries a sign as he and others demonstrate outside U.S. Sen. John Cornyn's, R-Texas, office in Dallas, Wednesday, Dec. 3, 2008. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)

DETROIT — Worried about their jobs and warned that the cost of failure could be a depression, hundreds of leaders of the United Auto Workers voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to make concessions to the struggling Detroit Three, including all but ending a much-derided program that let laid-off workers collect up to 95 percent of their salaries.

"Everybody has to give a little bit," said Rich Bennett, an official for Local 122 in Twinsburg, Ohio, representing Chrysler workers. "We've made concessions. We really feel we're doing our part."

Union leaders also agreed to let the cash-starved automakers delay billions of dollars in payments to a union-administered trust set to take over health care for blue-collar retirees starting in 2010.

In addition, they decided to let the Detroit leadership begin renegotiating elements of landmark contracts signed with the automakers last year, a move that could lead to wage concessions.

The vote came on the eve of congressional hearings on as much as $34 billion in loans that General Motors and Chrysler say are critical to their survival. Ford has said it may be able to hang on through 2009 without additional credit.

Democratic congressional leaders say they want to act to prevent one or more of the automakers from collapsing, but they have made no commitments to approve an unpopular bailout at a time of economic peril.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said a Democratic plan to tap the Wall Street rescue fund to save U.S. automakers does not have the votes to pass.

UAW President Ron Gettelfinger said the union must help persuade Congress to offer the loans or risk destroying what he said is the country's economic spine.

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"Let's look at the backbone and the millions of jobs lost if we lost this industry," he said.

Earlier in the day, Chrysler Vice Chairman Jim Press went a step further, warning of a depression if even one automaker runs out of cash.

"We're on the brink with the U.S. auto manufacturing industry," Press told The Associated Press in an interview. "If we have a catastrophic failure of one of these car companies, in this tender environment for the economy, it's a huge blow. It could trigger a depression."

Both Chrysler LLC and General Motors Corp. are so perilously low on cash that the companies may not be able to pay all their bills by the end of the year. GM wants a total of $18 billion in loans. Chrysler is seeking $7 billion, and both manufacturers say they need cash this month.

Ford Motor Co., which borrowed billions before credit markets tightened, says it can survive through 2009 and may not need to tap the $9 billion credit line it requested.

As a further sign of the companies' dire straits, Moody's Investors Service on Wednesday downgraded its ratings for GM and Chrysler, sending them further into non-investment, or "junk," status. Moody's affirmed its ratings for Ford, but said the outlook for the three automakers is "negative," implying further downgrades are possible.

Sent home empty-handed last month, executives from all three companies knocked on doors on Capitol Hill and made television appearances Wednesday, hoping the detailed plans they submitted Tuesday would convince hostile lawmakers to help. CEOs from all three, plus Gettelfinger, will appear before Senate and House committees Thursday and Friday.

Fritz Henderson, GM's president and chief operating officer, stressed on NBC's "Today" show that bankruptcy isn't a viable option.

Choosing bankruptcy, he said, would further erode consumer confidence in the automaker and "we want them to be confident in their ability to buy our cars and trucks."

All three executives took hybrid cars from Detroit to Washington after enduring harsh criticism last month for using corporate jets for the trip.

The automakers' plans were being scrutinized by legislators, the White House and the Treasury and Commerce departments.

"It sounds to me like the companies have given this a lot of thought and are willing to make some tough decisions," White House press secretary Dana Perino said. "We just need a little more time to pore through the documents."

President-elect Barack Obama said it appeared that the CEOs were returning to Congress with a "more serious set of plans" for how their companies are going to survive.

The plans painted the most dire portrait yet of the industry's woes _ including the prospect of shuttered factories and massive job losses if Congress does not act quickly.

The much-derided "jobs bank" that permits laid-off workers to receive most of their pay was created in the mid-1980s as a trade-off to the UAW for increased factory automation. But the system became a symbol for the union's largess when workers were paid for years after their factories closed.

Gettelfinger said the union will suspend the bank, but he did not give specifics or a timetable.

"We're going to sit down and work out the mechanics," Gettelfinger said. "We're a little unclear on some of the issues."

Members of Congress criticized the automakers last month for paying laid-off workers, saying it's one reason why their labor costs are higher than competitors. About 3,500 workers from all three companies are now in the jobs bank.

Until the 2007 contract, workers could stay in the jobs bank indefinitely, but the new pact imposes time limits. Workers in the bank must report to local union halls. Sometimes they do charity work, but other times they do nothing.

Gettelfinger stopped short of saying the union would reopen its contracts but said it would return to the bargaining table to change some terms. Modifications would have to be ratified by members.

Delaying the health care trust payments will help the companies survive their cash shortages, which they say were brought on by the severe economic downturn and the worst U.S. sales in more than a quarter century.

The delay will have to be approved by federal courts, which already have blessed the trusts' formation.

Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said she hopes Congress acts to help the automakers. Reid said he would advance a bill Monday in preparation for a possible auto bailout vote later in the week.

The automakers, humbled by criticism from their last visit, gave lengthy plans with minute details about how they plan to repay the government money.

Ford CEO Alan Mulally and GM CEO Rick Wagoner both said they would work for $1 a year if their firms took any government loan money. Chrysler chief Robert Nardelli already works for $1 a year.

Per the UAW's constitution, Gettelfinger receives an annual salary of about $145,000 per year, plus insurance, retirement and other benefits.

Ford offered to cancel management bonuses and salaried employees' merit raises next year, and GM said it would slash top executives' pay. Ford and GM both said they would sell their corporate aircraft.

Nevertheless, Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, said the mood in Congress "is not supportive" of the automakers, although he called the consequences of just one of them failing "cataclysmic."

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Associated Press writers Ken Thomas, Julie Hirschfeld Davis and Jennifer Loven in Washington, and AP Business Writer Deborah Yao in Philadelphia contributed to this report.

DETROIT — Worried about their jobs and warned that the cost of failure could be a depression, hundreds of leaders of the United Auto Workers voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to make concessions to...
DETROIT — Worried about their jobs and warned that the cost of failure could be a depression, hundreds of leaders of the United Auto Workers voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to make concessions to...
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Jim Press is simply lamenting not staying with Toyota.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 12/06/2008

yeah like the auto industry is so good at predicting the future.

this is the same industry that didnt see fuel prices go up or a change in consumer tastes and which kept pumping out the same old crap, now all of sudden they are the ones telling us were headed for a depression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 12/04/2008
- Fabini I'm a Fan of Fabini 43 fans permalink
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The auto industry will NOT collapse if General Motor disappears. However, many individual workers and suppliers will be out of work. It's not GM that is necessary, it's labor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 12/03/2008
- Emlyn I'm a Fan of Emlyn 9 fans permalink

I was not too impressed with the big 3 coming to Washington with hands out. I don't know what the answer is. But I do know, they need to stop selling big cars that use large amounts of gas. I know there are people out there that get a thrill from having this big piece of tin in their driveway and can brag that they have huge SUV. I guess its a "I'm better than you are" attitude.

I do think that having to provide health insurance to their employees hasn't helped either but it would be nice if we could have a health plan that would cover them as I don't think the employees should lose everything. And I don't think the Union should be pushed around either.

The people who got themselves in this mess were the management of the big 3. Maybe bankrutpcy is the right thing to do. The american people should not pay the bills for their problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 12/03/2008
- blood1 I'm a Fan of blood1 12 fans permalink

I was underwhelmed by the GM statement: there is no Plan B. What type of CEO is that? If they have no plan and no alternative to the alternative....etc. they have no reason to stay in business. As a mid level manager, I am always thinking of alternatives...and alternatives to alternatives...ask the line employees...yep, go down to the manufacturing floor and ask them.

Your assumption that the only idea (of which you have ONE) is the only possible solution should be so embarassing that resignation should sound so good...even without a "golden parachute".

I would be embarassed for you...but that does not seem to be a part of your psyche - absolutely amazing and ultimately underwhelming but a true example of why US Automakers are incapable of competing with those with a different business model.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 12/03/2008
- Emlyn I'm a Fan of Emlyn 9 fans permalink

I think they expect the American people to say "just give them the money" so they don't need a Plan B.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 12/03/2008
- JohnIII I'm a Fan of JohnIII 8 fans permalink

"we want them to be confident in their ability to buy our cars and trucks."

What makes them think we'll be confident if they get bailed out? Crappy cars are crappy cars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 12/03/2008
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How is this bailout any different than Corporatism?

In my eye, Bankruptcy is the ONLY option.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 12/03/2008
- PennP I'm a Fan of PennP 26 fans permalink
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Here's what I'm wondering. If bankruptcy is "not an option" for anyone but the U.S. taxpayer, and all of this rescue capital is being provided by the US taxpayer, what happens when US taxpayer declares bankruptcy and the rescue money dries up?

Why are we preserving institutions at the economic expense of the individuals whose fiscal health is vital to the preservation of those very institutions? Logic says we should shore up the economic well-being of the consuming masses, and allow the natural course of things to dictate the fates of the car companies, financial institutions, etc. By going at this at the wrong end, we are simply propping up the very entities that have compromised the consumer, exacerbating our woes, and speeding our descent. When does it stop? A year from now, will being a wholly owned subsidiary of China seen preferable to the alternative?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 12/03/2008
- Tom95134 I'm a Fan of Tom95134 54 fans permalink
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It's one thing to bailout publicly owned companies, e.g., GM & Ford, but Chrysler is privately owned and as far as I'm concerned, THEY CAN GO UNDER! In fact, if Crysler went under it would probably guarantee the survival of GM & Ford.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 12/03/2008
- baghdadjoe I'm a Fan of baghdadjoe 37 fans permalink

Please note the "Hummer" ad on the upper right of this page. People - I'm telling you right now - these Detroit auto companies just DON'T GET IT. Here we are plunging into the Bush Depression, with the energy crisis and global warming looming large, and they're trying to sell... Hummers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 12/03/2008

Actually, GM is literally trying to sell Hummer. The brand. They want to get rid of it and have been trying for a while now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 12/03/2008
- baghdadjoe I'm a Fan of baghdadjoe 37 fans permalink

On the contrary - the Detroit automakers DESPERATELY need the bankruptcy process to restructure their companies to be competitive. With out bankruptcy and restructuring, GM, Ford, and Cerberus will all fail pretty quickly. The US Government should just buy these companies, fire the incompetent management, and bring in some motivated executives who are interested in building good cars. Electric cars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 12/03/2008
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"The US Government should just buy these companies"

Yes, and then the Car companies will be as efficient as Amtrak (and require annual bailouts).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 12/03/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

You could buy all the common shares of stock in General Motors for less than $3 billion. Why should we give GM $18 billion or $25 billion or anything? Take the money and buy the company --M. Moore

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 12/03/2008

If you buy the company you owe all the money they owe. Then you can't even say no to the bailout. It's like piling taxpayer money on a big heap and setting fire to it with a flame thrower.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 12/03/2008
- huffnpuffn I'm a Fan of huffnpuffn 8 fans permalink

Where was the Pets.com bailout?

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/130277.html

If only that company was staffed with reliably democratic voting UAW union members... Sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 12/03/2008

Quit knocking unions, this is not the fault of unions! The unions have been trying to work with the companies for years now, the unions have no say in what kind of cars will be built. Unions are the only thing that keeps the wages up in this country, if we had no unions we would all be working for minimum wages, do you think that the non union companies are paying what they are at the moment because they like to? They pay better because they don't want Unions to come into their companies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 12/03/2008

Exactly! The autoworkers have opted for less pay, no pay raises and more....everyone keeps saying the workers are the ones that cause the high prices...b­ull....whe­n the total combined amount of yearly wages is LESS than the huge bonuses these CEO's get in one year there is no way in hell it is because of the workers!! Unions keep workers from being paid crap while the owners and higher-ups get richer. They make it so they can AFFORD to take care of their families. I think 60k a year for an autoworkers pay is a mere pittance compared to CEO bonuses. Tell them to lower their bonuses.

The auto companies have known for 40 years they needed to fix their crap. I don't want them to go bankrupt...they are an integral part of American history...but they need to get their crap in order and stop blaming workers. A "yes, sir" company man line if I ever heard one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 12/03/2008
- huffnpuffn I'm a Fan of huffnpuffn 8 fans permalink

I don't have a problem with unions. I have a problem with pandering. If UAW members weren't so reliably democratic voters, they wouldn't have the kind of pull they have with Democratic leadership in DC.

This proposed $25 billion, wait... $34 billion bailout is not about saving the country or saving the American car. It's about saving democratic votes. The downside is that it encourages failure. If they get our billions this time it won't be the last time the Big Three come begging.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 12/03/2008

Folks, all this government intervention will kill the economy. You don't fix capitalism with socialism.

Who cares what mode of transportation these clowns take? No one's business but theirs and their shareholders. Let them all go bankrupt: big three automakers, Citigroup, all of them. Let more vibrant industries rise from the ashes. Sure, the recession will be extremely painful, but government interventions will exacerbate the problem.

Get a grip. This is America; not a banana republic (yet). End the bailouts. Cut spending. Pay off the deficit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 12/03/2008
- RevMetheus I'm a Fan of RevMetheus 7 fans permalink

I hope you realize we dont live in a free-market capitalist society and never have. Capitalism cant exist in an environment of protectionist tariffs, corporate/­government collusion, and a currency system that is gamed towards certain megacorps.

I agree these bailouts are crap, but just once I'd like the American people to realize we have not nor will we ever live in a capitalist society. THAT is why our economy is in the crapper, its not the socialism but the denial. We dont want to help the little guy because thats socialism, but somehow we socialize the big guy because its in the interests of capitalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 12/03/2008
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 21 fans permalink

Yes.
And so we have become a fascist corporate state. Socialism is not for the rich, but the poor. Jesus is watching, and wants the money-changers out!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 12/03/2008
- JohnIII I'm a Fan of JohnIII 8 fans permalink

Agree completely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 12/03/2008

Pardon me, but Michael Moore is little more than a comedian that knows how to spin propaganda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 12/03/2008
- RevMetheus I'm a Fan of RevMetheus 7 fans permalink

yeah, way to go out of your way to make a Michael Moore point...

How about some timely Bob Dole or Ross Perot comments?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 12/03/2008
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