Obama's Windfall Taxes Shift: First Broken Promise?

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First Posted: 12- 3-08 05:30 PM   |   Updated: 01- 3-09 05:12 AM

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The Obama team's decision to drop the idea of forcing oil and natural gas companies to pay a tax on their windfall profits has caused a firestorm among liberals and small business coalitions.

As first reported in the Houston Chronicle, Obama's reference to a windfall profits tax, which he articulated during the campaign at a time of skyrocketing gas prices, had been removed from the transition team's Website, change.gov:

President-elect Barack Obama has quietly shelved a proposal to slap oil and natural gas companies with a new windfall profits tax.


An aide for the transition team acknowledged the policy shift Tuesday, after a small-business group discovered the proposal -- touted throughout much of the campaign -- had been dropped from the incoming administration's Web site.

"President-elect Obama announced the policy during the campaign because oil prices were above $80 per barrel," the aide said. "They are below that now and expected to stay below that."

At liberal blog Campaign For America's Future, David Sirota writes:

Between this move and the move to wait to repeal the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, it seems like the Obama team is buying into the right-wing frame that raising any taxes - even those on the richest citizens and wealthiest corporations - is bad for the economy. Of course, that frame is debunked by history. And while sure, it's OK to rack up deficits so as to spend our way out of the economic crisis, it's sorta silly to ignore the tax moves that could be implemented to limit those deficits where possible.


Oh, and one last thing - if oil prices are down and oil industry profits are truly down, what's the harm in passing a windfall profits tax? Even if you buy the right-wing nonsense about a windfall profits tax "hurting the industry" or "hurting the economy" when it is applied, if there really are no windfall profits to tax, then it won't be applied.

On Mother Jones' blog, Nick Baumann wrote a post asking, "Did Barack Obama just break his first camaign promise?":

Obama talked about a windfall profits tax as early as April. As crude oil prices topped $110 a barrel, Obama promised to "put a windfall profits tax on oil companies and use it to help ... families pay their heating and cooling bills and reduce energy costs." And in August, the Democratic nominee issued a campaign ad that promised "a windfall profits tax on big oil to give families a thousand dollar rebate." The windfall profits tax was a key point of contention between President-elect Obama and McCain in June, when McCain criticized Obama for the plan, calling it "dangerous".

The removal was noticed by the American Small Business League which fumed in a press release:

The American Small Business League questions whether the sudden elimination of this issue is a further indication that large corporations are already demonstrating their ability to influence the Obama adminstration...


President-elect Obama owes the American people an explanation as to why these campaign promises have been pulled from his agenda.

The Obama team's decision to drop the idea of forcing oil and natural gas companies to pay a tax on their windfall profits has caused a firestorm among liberals and small business coalitions. As firs...
The Obama team's decision to drop the idea of forcing oil and natural gas companies to pay a tax on their windfall profits has caused a firestorm among liberals and small business coalitions. As firs...
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His campaign admitted that they were pulling back from their promise to enact the tax! It's like you're ignoring the facts. Bottom line, this was his first campaign promise and he isn't going to follow through.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 12/05/2008
- lovered I'm a Fan of lovered 8 fans permalink

He isn't going to follow through on anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 12/05/2008
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All that happened is it was removed from his website. Will people please stop acting like the sky is falling? This is a little thing regardless....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 12/05/2008

The oil companies have experienced all time record profits every quarter for the past year and a half. They should return to the taxpayers, in the form of windfall profits taxes, some of the money they have taken from us during these record gas prices! I really don't want to be disappointed in President-Elect Obama before he has even reached office, but this truly upsets me. If he can't, or won't, help the middle and lower class Americans, we are well and truly screwed. He's our only chance to have some of the Bush regime's upward wealth redistribution corrected.

Please, sir, don't back out on this!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 12/05/2008
- JDJase I'm a Fan of JDJase 7 fans permalink

You're free to buy stock in oil companies. If you want their profits to be returned to you, a taxpayer, then buy stock.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 12/05/2008

You shouldn't have to buy stock as a means of avoiding being gouged by BIG OIL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 12/05/2008

Effin nonsense - if we want the proper redistribution of the wealth, crete dby others' sweat, TAX IT.

Stop with nonsensical BS wingnuts keep mumbling - there's NO STOCK-OWNERSHIP in the majority of the society.

YOU WILL GET TAXED, period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 12/05/2008

The proposal should not be shelved at all... David Sirota had it right when he said, "Oh, and one last thing - if oil prices are down and oil industry profits are truly down, what's the harm in passing a windfall profits tax? Even if you buy the right-wing nonsense about a windfall profits tax "hurting the industry" or "hurting the economy" when it is applied, if there really are no windfall profits to tax, then it won't be applied." Think about it... and and the Obama justification regarding the price of oil is bogus. Oil dipped below $80/ barrel at the beginning of October. Why was the tax posted on Change.gov in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 12/05/2008
- b93950 I'm a Fan of b93950 4 fans permalink
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President-elect Obama has only shelved a proposal to slap oil and natural gas companies with a new windfall profits tax simply because it would not bring in new revenue at the present rate. This does not mean the proposal cannot reinstate if the price of oil skyrockets again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 12/05/2008
- JDJase I'm a Fan of JDJase 7 fans permalink

It's because the windfall profits tax idea was stupid in the first place.

Everyone wants to cite oil companies' "record profits" as a reason to tax them. But everyone seems to not want to talk about the fact that to make those "record profits," the companies had record expenditures. There profit margin was still only about 7.5%. That is less than Wal-Mart, and many other companies. So should we windfal profit tax those companies too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 12/05/2008
- rf-hawaii I'm a Fan of rf-hawaii 27 fans permalink

The oil companies were getting huge tax breaks while they were experiencing the windfall profits. Congress should have repealed the tax breaks but was blocked by the Republicans.

I thought the new tax was to help adjust somewhat for the misplaced tax breaks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 12/05/2008

Hmm. Windfall profits tax on Wal-Mart? Not a bad idea!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 12/05/2008
- JDJase I'm a Fan of JDJase 7 fans permalink

haha, okay so Wal-Mart may not have been a good example for me to use lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 12/05/2008

Corporations do not pay taxes...Whatever windfall tax is placed upon them will be passed on to the consumer as higher prices. Jeez, a freshman economics student can tell you that.

Unless you place price restrictions on oil companies, the windfall profit tax will hurt the average everyday consumer. I hope no one is suggesting price restrictions...are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 12/05/2008

I'm stunned at all of this idiotic outrage. Obama isn't Pres yet so just take a deep breath you freaks. Also all you repubs out there jumping for joy... you should just sit in a corner and be quiet until we forget what you gave us for the last 8 years. Even if O reversed every policy position he had, it wouldn't change the fact that W is the worst ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 12/05/2008

Here! Here!

I'm afraid it will take more than 8 years to undo all of Bush's damage.

I hope Obama does as much as humanly possible to correct it. (I suspect some of what he wants to do is quietly being challenged by Congressional leaders. How many of them do you suppose have gotten large campaign donations from the oil & gas industry? Both Democrats and Republicans. If he doesn't have Congress's support, you can bet it's dead in the water. He'll better spend his time on things he CAN get done. WE should be putting pressure on Congress to back EVERYTHING he does, including that windfall profits tax!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 12/05/2008
- lovered I'm a Fan of lovered 8 fans permalink

Thats all you are going to have to fall back on when Obama never brings the change he promised. The libs are gonna blame everything on Bush. People are going to get really sick of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 12/05/2008

I can't seem to understand the hatred towards the American Oil Companies. They were not responsible for the price rise. That would be oil traders, gas guzzlers, consumption in India and China and market manipulation by OPEC. Opec made away with a boatload of money. The American Oil compnaies made a lot of money but at least it is money that came back to America not Saudi money. The liberal outrage should be directed towards OPEC. It seems like these (not all) liberals are out to destroy any and all American success story. Just don't get it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 12/05/2008
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Stop using liberal like a four letter word please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 12/05/2008
- ChefLito I'm a Fan of ChefLito 9 fans permalink
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I can hear my Republican friends, screaming and dancing, "I told you so, I told you so, told you, told you so"!!
first a thoroughly hawkish security/foreign affairs team, now more free money to Big Oil. All of these within 1 month!! and of course, he was the one who undercut a lot of the Democrats who worked for him when he declared that Lieberman should not be censured and be retained (and for what, he's not even the 60th vote!) yet refused to give any face time to a real Democrat in Georgia. Meanwhile, the Obama campaign continues to milk his supporters like one big national mall with his $30 mugs and t-shirts. I guess a true capitalist pretending to be a liberal to be elected. I am totally disappointed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 12/05/2008

relax he isn't even president yet for crying out loud, everyone is overreacting to an obscene amount.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 12/05/2008
- binq56 I'm a Fan of binq56 3 fans permalink
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I'm with you TheMastedon. The media (that includes Huffington P) likes to stoke drama. This interim period is devoid of the political drama of the election and you can't bash actual policy yet, so what are they going to do? Everyone needs to take an enormous chill pill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 12/05/2008
- JDJase I'm a Fan of JDJase 7 fans permalink

Interesting how you call the Democrat from Georgia the "real democrat;" had he been elected he would have voted witht he repubs more often than not; very zell miller like

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 12/05/2008
- PRODEMO I'm a Fan of PRODEMO 2 fans permalink
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"A spokesperson for the Obama transition team is reaffirming the President-elect's commitment to rolling back the subsidies that oil companies enjoy, confirming that Obama's campaign promise on this score is still fully operative" DECEMBER 4TH,2008 Why is it that every single day, people have to be reminded that Obama IS NOT president yet.Quote is http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/12/obama_spokesperson_reaffirms_c.php.php I'm getting tired of defending Obama against all the repugs and others who would like to see him fail before he takes office!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 12/05/2008

It's because so many people (including me) are SO anxious to get him in the White House, and King George the W out! The 45 days seems like an eternity to those of us who are so EAGER to have someone with a real brain in there!

The election feels like it was already a year ago. It's almost like being five years old and waiting those last two months till Christmas. Seems like it'll never come.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 12/05/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

POTUS-elect had NOTHING to do with gas prices falling. It is all about supply and demand. Back in July, GWB and the REPUBLICANS passed the off-shore drilling bill. This was to open up off-shore drilling sites previously closed due to "enviromental" groups displeasure of their operating in certain areas of the country. That was lifted, and now there is MORE off-shore drilling going on, hence supply and demand are back in even-kilter. Supply and demand , folks. Pure and Simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 12/05/2008

You dont know what your talking about!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 12/05/2008
- novowel4me I'm a Fan of novowel4me 2 fans permalink

And where is this new off shore drilling taking place? You need inform yourself on the drilling process, which according to; http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/national/2008/08/15/if-congress-lifts-the-offshore-oil-drilling-moratorium-what-happens-next.html will have no effect on US oil supply until 2030.

Obviously, what has occurred is the US is using less oil and so are many other countries around the world, primarily because of the current economic crises. The lesson learned is that to effect an big change in fuel prices, take immediate, effective steps to conserve its usage but do it on purpose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 12/05/2008
- JDJase I'm a Fan of JDJase 7 fans permalink

hmmm you almost had a point until u gave credit to offshore drilling yet. What extremely small amount of new drilling that has started as a result to that bill has no affect on supply because its such a small amount thus far.

It has nothing to do with supply increasing. Demand has gone down. That's where the oil price drop occued

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 12/05/2008
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Really? Those off-shore sites were identified, passed through regulatory requirements, built, brought on line, and started sending, what, pre-refined oil?, into the infrastructure in 4 months? Really? Then you and your little oil company pals have discovered a discontinuity in the time/space continuum, because that's the only way your timeline is not laughable. And, by the way, China was stockpiling huge quantities of oil at a hellish pace in the spring and summer, and then backed off in late summer. As you so brilliantly stated..."supply and demand - pure and simple'. Sheeeesh. Stay in your element on the Repug blogs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 12/05/2008

You truly *are* a simple creature, aren't you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 12/06/2008
- chabuka I'm a Fan of chabuka 8 fans permalink

First off..Obama is not the President yet....second....the price of a barrell of oil is down below fifty dollars..right now....lets see what President Elect Obama does if the price of oil starts going up again..and after he takes the oath of office...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 12/05/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

Due to the ban on off-shore drilling being lifted. This was done by the republicans and the POTUS George W. Bush in Juy 2008. This is why the prices are down. Congress had banned off-shore drilling in Feb. 2007 (the newly elected democratic congress, voted in in 2006 mid-term elections) and this is what made prices here in the US to sky-rocket. That has been reversed, and the bans are now lifted, and the US in now drilling for oil again, the way we should have been doing the whole time. You can thank the dems for the high prices for almost a year and a half...haha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 12/05/2008
- novowel4me I'm a Fan of novowel4me 2 fans permalink

You and the current POTUS appear to share a similar reasoning style. First jump to the conclusion you desire then cherry pick and bend data to shore it up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 12/05/2008
- Harrygton I'm a Fan of Harrygton 3 fans permalink

He should put a$2 tax surcharge on gas and use the money to develop alternative fuels! We need to eliminate the oil habit that keeps us tied down to the Middle East and all that that entails!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 12/05/2008

donvey lindsey the threat did enough to make them drop the prices so its all good

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 12/05/2008
- AZ4thatone I'm a Fan of AZ4thatone 7 fans permalink
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It amazes me how many people are taking the PE to task for broken promises already. Did I sleep through an inauguration and miss it? Is he acting as president now?

As far as the oil taxes go, I believe the tax was to be imposed on windfall profits. Last year was one of the most profitable for large oil companies despite the fact that we were paying about $4.20 per gallon at the pump. They made windfall profits while we on main street were digging for change to fill our tanks from our sofa cushions.

Funny how now that Obama is the PE and the oil companies are faced with a windfall profit tax, we can now find gas for $1.75 a gal. in my neighborhood. Maybe the oil companies won't have to pay windfall taxes if they keep gas at a fair price and stop gouging us at the pump. It's not a broken promise if the oil companies do not make windfall profits, but it is a good way to keep them (the oil companies) from overpricing the gas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 12/05/2008

Pure sophistry. Since they are now making slightly less the all time record profits, we don't need to tax them on it.

Obama's next broken promise will be not giving the middle class tax cuts he promised. And it will be the SAME broken promise, because this is what would have offset it.

I'm very much an Obama supporter, but playing ostriche while the corporate lobbyists zombify him does no good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 12/05/2008
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You aren't an Obama supporter. Stop lying. You are going to look back at this and feel stupid for freaking out about it. People need to stop it with this mess. There are far more important things for the media to be focusing on now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 12/05/2008
- JDJase I'm a Fan of JDJase 7 fans permalink

Of course, as usual, the unedcuated implying that oil companies have something to do with the price of a barrel of oil, which makes the price of gas go up.

FYI it's not oil companies selling you barrels of oil! They have to BUY barrels of oil and adjust their prices accordingly. DUH

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 12/05/2008
- AZ4thatone I'm a Fan of AZ4thatone 7 fans permalink
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You know absolutely nothing about me. And, your insulting banter regarding "it's not oil companies selling me barrels of oil" has absolutely no merit. I thought we were discussing windfall profits by oil companies. Windfall profits: ie: more profit than is warrented by their investment to profit ratio. Who is uneducated? DUH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 12/06/2008
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