Obama's Windfall Taxes Shift: First Broken Promise?

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First Posted: 12- 3-08 05:30 PM   |   Updated: 01- 3-09 05:12 AM

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The Obama team's decision to drop the idea of forcing oil and natural gas companies to pay a tax on their windfall profits has caused a firestorm among liberals and small business coalitions.

As first reported in the Houston Chronicle, Obama's reference to a windfall profits tax, which he articulated during the campaign at a time of skyrocketing gas prices, had been removed from the transition team's Website, change.gov:

President-elect Barack Obama has quietly shelved a proposal to slap oil and natural gas companies with a new windfall profits tax.


An aide for the transition team acknowledged the policy shift Tuesday, after a small-business group discovered the proposal -- touted throughout much of the campaign -- had been dropped from the incoming administration's Web site.

"President-elect Obama announced the policy during the campaign because oil prices were above $80 per barrel," the aide said. "They are below that now and expected to stay below that."

At liberal blog Campaign For America's Future, David Sirota writes:

Between this move and the move to wait to repeal the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, it seems like the Obama team is buying into the right-wing frame that raising any taxes - even those on the richest citizens and wealthiest corporations - is bad for the economy. Of course, that frame is debunked by history. And while sure, it's OK to rack up deficits so as to spend our way out of the economic crisis, it's sorta silly to ignore the tax moves that could be implemented to limit those deficits where possible.


Oh, and one last thing - if oil prices are down and oil industry profits are truly down, what's the harm in passing a windfall profits tax? Even if you buy the right-wing nonsense about a windfall profits tax "hurting the industry" or "hurting the economy" when it is applied, if there really are no windfall profits to tax, then it won't be applied.

On Mother Jones' blog, Nick Baumann wrote a post asking, "Did Barack Obama just break his first camaign promise?":

Obama talked about a windfall profits tax as early as April. As crude oil prices topped $110 a barrel, Obama promised to "put a windfall profits tax on oil companies and use it to help ... families pay their heating and cooling bills and reduce energy costs." And in August, the Democratic nominee issued a campaign ad that promised "a windfall profits tax on big oil to give families a thousand dollar rebate." The windfall profits tax was a key point of contention between President-elect Obama and McCain in June, when McCain criticized Obama for the plan, calling it "dangerous".

The removal was noticed by the American Small Business League which fumed in a press release:

The American Small Business League questions whether the sudden elimination of this issue is a further indication that large corporations are already demonstrating their ability to influence the Obama adminstration...


President-elect Obama owes the American people an explanation as to why these campaign promises have been pulled from his agenda.

The Obama team's decision to drop the idea of forcing oil and natural gas companies to pay a tax on their windfall profits has caused a firestorm among liberals and small business coalitions. As firs...
The Obama team's decision to drop the idea of forcing oil and natural gas companies to pay a tax on their windfall profits has caused a firestorm among liberals and small business coalitions. As firs...
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- devanate I'm a Fan of devanate 9 fans permalink
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Oh shut up already. He's not even in office yet. Give the man a little breathing room and wait until August to start the harping.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 12/04/2008

I'm sorry, but attempting to pass a highly contentious tax on windfall profits when the profits no longer exist is kind of moronic. Obama is a pragmatist. I think he's rightfully more interested in dealing with the sagging economy and a lack of investor confidence. A windfall tax is completely pointless right now and would probably only stall legislation in the Senate. Give you heads a shake people, that man's got real priorities to take care of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 12/04/2008
- sclucie I'm a Fan of sclucie 9 fans permalink

Thank you. Has anyone looked at the price of crude/barrel lately?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 12/04/2008

I knew Obama would have some sense knocked back into him once he actually knew what was going on in Washington.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 12/04/2008
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Who do you think "knocked" the sense back into him... & where can I contact this person to start work on YOU?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 12/04/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 224 fans permalink
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 12/04/2008

Sorry sports fans, but his first broken promise was the knife in the back on FISA and telco immunity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 12/04/2008
- Agent420 I'm a Fan of Agent420 45 fans permalink
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Sorry to inform you that Obama as a Constitutional expert knows that the bill will fail in the courts.
Read the Constitution Article 1 Section 9.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 12/04/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 555 fans permalink
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well, it does sort of beg the question, if we don't recognize ex post facto prosecutions, how can we recognize ex post facto immunity? not to mention that the whole thing was a blatant violation of the 4th amendment anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 12/04/2008

Constitution Article 1 Section 9 is irrelevant in this case and you are in error.

I presume that you refer to the ex post facto clause. The definition of what is ex post facto is limited in consitutional law. The first definition of ex post facto law is found in Calder v Bull (3 US 386 [1798]), in the opinion of Justice Chase:

1st. Every law that makes an action done before the passing of the law, and which was innocent when done, criminal; and punishes such action. 2d. Every law that aggravates a crime, or makes it greater than it was, when committed. 3d. Every law that changes the punishment, and inflicts a greater punishment, than the law annexed to the crime, when committed. 4th. Every law that alters the legal rules of evidence, and receives less, or different, testimony, than the law required at the time of the commission of the offense, in order to convict the offender.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 12/04/2008
- sclucie I'm a Fan of sclucie 9 fans permalink

And you pay your monthly support bill to which telecom corporation? I'd believe the outrage - if people were willing to follow their outrage with action. Quit the monthly checks - and live without wireless and cell phones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 12/04/2008
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 75 fans permalink
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yikers! he's not even in office yet. what happened to ask not what your country can do for you...?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 12/04/2008
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yikers! he's not even in office yet. what happened to ask not what your country can do for you...?

Since his whole campaign was based on government handouts, why are you surprised?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 12/04/2008
- fumes2 I'm a Fan of fumes2 11 fans permalink
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yikers! he's not even in office yet. what happened to ask not what your country can do for you...?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 12/04/2008
- Nitalia I'm a Fan of Nitalia 4 fans permalink

When there is no news or you can't get any- what do you? You go find some!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 12/04/2008
- allonfla I'm a Fan of allonfla 33 fans permalink

That's it! I have come to the conclusion that the Left has mush for brains. Do any of you know that HuffPo and an activist group stirred up this controversy? They have been running this same story for the past 5 days - each story under a different author - debuting on different days in different sections of the website. It wasn't getting the attention they wanted so they hyped it up, put it on the front page and now look it has over 3,000 comments of pure bull. Did you notice that not one single person in the Obama transition team was quoted with an actual NAME. Who is this aide and if this decision is official why is he remaining anonymous. All the quotes with names are from bloggers or activists that do not have a clue about what is going on inside O's team.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 12/04/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 555 fans permalink
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i believe that's why some of us have turned the conversation elsewhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 12/04/2008
- gi I'm a Fan of gi 7 fans permalink
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THANK YOU! allonfla NOT ONLY THEY ARE MUSH THEY ARE STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 12/04/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 555 fans permalink
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speak for yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 12/04/2008
- Eoin45 I'm a Fan of Eoin45 44 fans permalink

Tthe truly stupid post in ALLCAPS, use exclamation points excessively and have poor grammatical skills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 12/04/2008
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I think you missed an "!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 12/04/2008
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You're just NOW realizing that HuffPo is a TABLOID?

It's the "National Enquirer" that you can get at "Whole Foods".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 12/04/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 44 fans permalink

Be easy on the 'National Enquirer'. They seem more neutral and truthful then the mainstream media. As witnessed by the John Edwards fiasco.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 12/04/2008
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any zealot, whether left or right has given away part of his brain to the latest party talking point, no thought needed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 12/04/2008
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Yep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 12/04/2008

oil is at 45 bucks a barrel, there are no more windfall profits any more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 12/04/2008
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oh but aren't those big bad oil companies still all big and bad? do the socialists want us to pay them when they lose money too? ha, what a joke!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 12/04/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 555 fans permalink
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shouldn't you be at freepers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 12/04/2008
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When have they ever lost money?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 12/04/2008
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 23 fans permalink

I believe that you elected a softer 'more of the same' president in the USA.

SHAME, you really need to kick congress and the court system arses; hard, fast and big time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 12/04/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 555 fans permalink
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ah, grasshopper, i would beg to differ with you.

i believe this man is an excellent chess player.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 12/04/2008
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aye ! meet the new boss, same as the old boss!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 12/04/2008
- devanate I'm a Fan of devanate 9 fans permalink
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I won't say he's great or anything. But this is one of those rare instances where I think our president is actually something completely different from the last.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 12/04/2008
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of course a politician is going to promise the world and then once he gets in he actually has to lead everyone, some will feel cheated. it happens all the time. the name of the game is to get elected, then lead from the center- where america is btw- and then get re-elected, then maybe go a little further left or right given you cant get re-elected again, and then go write your memoirs, get on the lecture circuit, and chill. same old game, meet the new boss, same as the old boss

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 12/04/2008
- allonfla I'm a Fan of allonfla 33 fans permalink

the Left has mush for brains. Do any of you know that HuffPo and an activist group stirred up this controversy? They have been running this same story for the past 5 days - each story under a different author - debuting on different days in different sections of the website. It wasn't getting the attention they wanted so they hyped it up, put it on the front page and now look it has over 3,000 comments of pure bull. Did you notice that not one single person in the Obama transition team was quoted with an actual NAME. Who is this aide and if this decision is official why is he remaining anonymous. All the quotes with names are from bloggers or activists that do not have a clue about what is going on inside O's team.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 12/04/2008


This is a controversial flip flop. It deserves national conversation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 12/04/2008
- gi I'm a Fan of gi 7 fans permalink
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REPUBLICRATS CAN YOU DO A BETTER JOB RUN FOR PRES!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 12/04/2008
- Eoin45 I'm a Fan of Eoin45 44 fans permalink

Cynical, unoriginal c**p from a poster who claims to be amused by other's lack of original thought while simultaneously exposing his/her own lack of same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 12/04/2008
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Some GOOD ADVICE...... (part one A)

"America Needs a New New Deal" -- by Katrina vanden Heuvel & Eric Schlosser:

"We should apply FDR's principles of relief, reform and reconstruction to our current financial crisis. I think that we progressives need to be as clear-eyed, tough and pragmatic about Obama as he is about us.

President-elect Obama is a centrist at a time when centrism means energy independence and green jobs and universal healthcare and massive economic stimulus programs and government intervention in the economy.

He is a pragmatist at a moment when pragmatism and the scale of our financial crisis compel him to adopt bold policies.

He is a cautious leader at a time when, to paraphrase New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, cautious is the new risky.

The great traumas of our day do not allow for cautious steps or responses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 12/04/2008
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how can yopu apply 80 year old principles to the current crisis? Mind as well pine for isolationism or some other ancient creed. Now is now, then was then, the two shall never meet, and have nothing in common. perhaps you'll suggest next a good world war is all we need to bring us out of this mess?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 12/04/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 555 fans permalink
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do consider cranio-rectal extraction. and a hooked on phonics class.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 12/04/2008
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You can apply the principals & update the MACHINERY...

Hell, the "principles" of our REPUBLIC goes back 230 years ferchrissakes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 12/04/2008
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Some GOOD ADVICE...... (part one B)

History makes me think that progressives must avoid falling into either of two extremes--­reflexivel­y defensive or reflexively critical.

We'll be wiser and more effective if we follow the advice of a Nation editorial board member, who shared these thoughts at our recent meeting:

1. It will take large-scale organized movements to win transformative change. There would have been no civil rights legislation without the movement, no New Deal without the unions and the unemployed councils, no end to slavery without the abolitionists.

In our era, this will have to play out in two ways: organizing district by district and state by state to get us to the 218 (House) and sixty (Senate) votes necessary to pass major legislation; and harnessing the movement energy that can create a new narrative and thus move the elites in Washington to shift away from failed free-market orthodoxies. (continued.....)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 12/04/2008
- Pronto I'm a Fan of Pronto 32 fans permalink

I stopped reading at "by Katrina vanden Heuvel & Eric Schlosser: "

Spare us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 12/04/2008
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I thank god that the rest of us aren't "smitten" by your "intellectual curiosity".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 12/04/2008
- Eoin45 I'm a Fan of Eoin45 44 fans permalink

Clearly you stopped reading before that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 12/04/2008
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Repost....

Some GOOD ADVICE...... (part two)

2. We need to be able to play inside and outside politics at the same time.

This will be challenging for those of us schooled in the habits of pure opposition and protest. We need to make an effort to engage the new administration and Congress constructively, even as we push without apology for solutions on a scale necessary to deliver.

This is in the interest of the Democratic Party--which rode the wave of a new coalition of African-Americans, Latinos, young people, women and others. But the party has been beaten down by conservative attacks, so the natural impulse will be caution.

3. Progressives must stick up especially forcefully for the most vulnerable members of the coalition--poor people, immigrants, etc.--those who got almost no mention during the campaign and who are most likely to be left off the bus.

As a former community organizer, Obama has spoken of how "real change comes from the bottom up." It comes about by "imagining and then fighting for and then working for--struggling for--what did not seem possible before."

That is the charge we should embrace. Let's mobilize to achieve what "did not seem possible before."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 12/04/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 555 fans permalink
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this can't be repeated often enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 12/04/2008

You sound like a know-it-all that doesn't know much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 12/04/2008
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What parts of this article do you disagree with... specifically?

...& WHY?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 12/04/2008


Obama's credibility hinges on delivery of his promises. This is a good time to REMIND HIM.

" As a former community organizer, Obama has spoken of how "real change comes from the bottom up." It comes about by "imagining and then fighting for and then working for--struggling for--what did not seem possible before. "

I hope to God, this comes from the heart. Words are simply words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 12/04/2008
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It's up to US to make SURE that those "words" are realized... we just can't show up at the voting booth, make an "X" & then expect someone ELSE to see it through.

THAT'S what that article is about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 12/04/2008
- Val49 I'm a Fan of Val49 4 fans permalink

I am a huge Obama supporter and still is, I never expected him to be perfect I just expected more out of him than what we have in the White House NOW. Do I expect for him to deliver on every single thing he campaigned on NO but I do expect for him to do the best he can to look out for the people here in the United States lets not forget not only does he have to look out for our family he has a family too. SO FAR SO GOOD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 12/04/2008


He cannot dillute and lower those standards because HE WAS THE ONE WHO RAISED THOSE EXPECTATIONS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 12/04/2008
- dmbraddy I'm a Fan of dmbraddy 266 fans permalink
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This is a non-story. OPEC produces as much oil as it can. When demand was high, prices were high and oil companies made huge profits. Now demand is down, dramatically. Prices responded. Oil company profits will reflect that. No OPEC or speculator conspiracy is necessary to explain these facts, just supply and demand.

Should Obama stick to campaign promises or adjust policy to reflect changing reality? For 8 years the current President has stuck with an ill-conceived economic theory and refused to change ineffective policies or adapt policies to changed circumstances. Haven't we had enough of that? I hope Obama ignores nitpicking ankle-biters whining about "broken promises" and devises policies appropriate for current realities. I'm sure he remembers his Emerson, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

Conspiracy theorists imagine a world of bad actors conspiring with near-supernatural powers to affect worldwide conditions to our detriment. Baloney. Supply and demand. The business cycle. These are among the affecters of economic reality that should guide our policy decisions. I fully expect Obama to take into account and respond to economic facts of life rather than tilting at conspiracy chimeras or dogmatically maintaining foolish consistency.

Economic conditions continue to deteriorate. Obama must not waste time and political capital pursuing Pyrrhic victories over Big Oil. Pragmatism is called for now. We must stay focused and address the most important, most time-critical issues first. To his credit I believe that is exactly what Obama is doing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 12/04/2008


What conspiracy ? Is conspiracy holding him accountable for his promise to tax those windfall profits ? And is it not important to remind him of that ? Isnt that the Oil problem was one of the major woes of this nation ? Does a pragmatist abandon his promises because the prospect of going against the big oil baron is unrealistic ?

Or, should we just allow him to make excuse ? Where is that "change we need" ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 12/04/2008
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