Big Three Automaker Bailout: Hearing, Statements, Video

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Huffington Post   |  Katharine Zaleski   |   December 4, 2008 09:04 AM


Updated 10am EST Friday, December 5:

The Big Three are back on Capitol Hill today. This time their talking to Congress about getting a multi-billion dollar bailout package.


More info from AP:

The chairman of the House Financial Services Committee says the new bleak unemployment figures makes helping the nation's beleaguered auto industry even more urgent.

Rep. Barney Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat, warned that doing nothing would be a disaster in the middle of what he called the worst economic crisis in 70 years.

Watch live video from today's hearing and check back here for more updates:

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Updated 4:20pm: Scroll down for excerpts from Thursday's hearing:


AP has a recap on Thursday's hearing with the Big Three automakers. Read an excerpt below:

U.S. automakers drew fresh skepticism from lawmakers Thursday in a rocky confrontation over their pleas for an expanded $34 billion rescue package they say they need to survive. Congressional analysts said one bailout plan under consideration would fall short of what the carmakers want.

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With time on the current Congress running out, opposition to the bailout appeared to be as strong as last week -- before Detroit's Big Three auto chiefs returned to Capitol Hill with more detailed plans on how they would spend the money.

Several lawmakers in both parties are pressing the automakers to consider a so-called "pre-packaged" bankruptcy in which they would negotiate with creditors in advance and downsize, then file for Chapter 11 protection in hopes of emerging quickly as stronger companies. The Big Three have publicly shunned the notion, saying it would kill sales by destroying customers' confidence -- but executives have indicated in recent days that it might ultimately be necessary...

...United Auto Worker union President Ron Gettelfinger, aligned with the industry in pressing for the aid, told senators at a Banking Committee hearing that any kind of bankruptcy, even a pre-packaged one, was not "a viable option." Gettelfinger said consumers would not buy autos from bankrupt companies, no matter the terms of the arrangement.

He also warned that in the absence of action by Congress: "I believe we could lose General Motors by the end of this month." He said the situation was dire and time was of the essence.

UPDATED 1:20pm EST - Scroll down for testimony text:

Two weeks after a botched attempt on Capitol Hill, U.S. automakers returned to Congress for high-stakes hearings they hope will persuade skeptical lawmakers to save their troubled industry with $34 billion in emergency aid, but a top Senate Democrat wants to hand their problem to the Federal Reserve.

To make matters worse for the Big Three, Senate Majority Leader Reid told the AP Wednesday "I just don't think we have the votes to do that now." Reid was of course referring to passage of the $34 billion bailout package sought by the automakers.

Excerpts From NY Times Liveblog On The Big Three Bailout Hearings:

12:40 p.m.| Is This Enough?: Mark Zandi, the chief economist of Moodys.com, is for a bailout. But he warns that recovery will be slow, in part because the carmakers' increasingly generous financial offers -- all those auto loans that are now in danger of going bad and the big price cuts -- were used to pump up demand for too long. That drained future demand.

He warns that "$34 billion may not be enough."

12:16 p.m. Eastern | It's about the jobs: Robert Nardelli, Chrysler's chief, says he is speaking on behalf of "one million people who depend on Chrysler for their jobs." He says the company's plan will yield a "product renaissance" that includes electric vehicles "similar to the one I drove here today." He also says what the automakers are asking is "the least costly alternative considering the depth of the economic crisis."

12:16 p.m. Eastern | Road trip?: Alan Mulally, Ford's chief executive, assures the panel that the company is "focused." And after a long drive to Washington to testify, he offers to return the committee's hospitality. "We invite you to visit us in Dearborn and kick the tires," he says.

12:11 p.m. Eastern | No room for scapegoats: Now a word from the workers. Ron Gettelfinger, the head of the United Auto Workers, speaks up for federal help -- but also for his members. "The U.A.W. recognizes that the crisis may require further sacrifices by the employees," he says, but the union "vigorously opposes any attempt to make workers and retirees the scapegoat." He also says it's not feasible for Congress to work out details of a complex restructuring plan in the course of the coming week.

12:07 p.m. Eastern | Learning from mistakes: Rick Wagoner, the chief of General Motors, goes first, saying that the automakers here today because they've mistakes. In the course of putting together its rescue appeal, he said, "we tried to learn from our contributions and our successes and also from our mistakes" over the course of G.M.'s 100-year history.

10:20 a.m. Eastern | Russian roulette: Christopher Dodd, the chairman of the committee, has made up his mind before hearing any witness. To turn down the automakers, he says, would be playing "Russian roulette" with the economy.

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Huffington Post will have updates through the day on the Big Three's hearing. Check back. And go here for more from the AP on its story about the Big Three in Washington.

Before the hearing, GM chief Richard Wagoner, Jr told reporters: "We're sorry to be asking for this support." Watch video of Wagoner talking to reporters:


For some insight on what might follow today's hearing, read Phil LeBeau's predictions for the Big Three:

In an industry going through as many changes as we've seen with the autos, it's probably not the smartest move to make predictions about what to expect in the next year. That said, here are my predictions.

1. Chrysler will be sold.

This isn't hard to imagine. The company is a shell of what it once was, it has just enough cash to stay out of bankruptcy, and the parent Cerberus wants to unload the company. The Big 3 will turn into the Big 2.

2. General Motors will shed brands as it restructures.

CEO Rick Wagoner loves all of GM's [GM 4.58 -0.32 (-6.53%) ] brands and will defend GM having eight, but with its bottom line being squeezed, I predict GM will want to free up research, marketing and overhead costs. Don't be surprised if one, and possibly more of GM's brands go on the block.

3. A Chinese auto maker will buy its way into the U.S. market.

Companies like Geely and SAIC have the desire to get a footprint in the U.S. and in a down market, '09 could be the time to buy a U.S. brand or slice of an auto maker.


Updated 10am EST Friday, December 5: The Big Three are back on Capitol Hill today. This time their talking to Congress about getting a multi-billion dollar bailout package. More info from AP: The...
Updated 10am EST Friday, December 5: The Big Three are back on Capitol Hill today. This time their talking to Congress about getting a multi-billion dollar bailout package. More info from AP: The...
 
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....Just hand us the money.......haven't we been making responsible decissions up until now? ....well in our own eyes we do nothing wrong, anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 12/07/2008
- Rosey I'm a Fan of Rosey 6 fans permalink

They still do not get it. We have recovered from our rush to give Hanky $700 million with no strings attached. We have learned how utterly stupid we were to give the man who kisses up to Wall Street so much leeway. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing! So now we say to the Big 3, get realistic.... build smaller, greener cars. We say to Mr. UAW, Honda & Toyota both pay $18 an hour and lookie here, they are both SUCCESSFUL. Mr. UAW and Mssrs Big 3, try emulating those companies.... put a plan together that makes sense. And frankly, United and many other companies filed for bankruptcy and doing better. Think about that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 12/06/2008

The Big 3 may not have received the entire $34 billion, but they got something. I am angered by bald-faced lies. GM and Ford are producing and assembling cars in places like Brazil and hundreds of other countries. They are making tons of money because they don't have to pay the indigenous people what they pay workers in America. The automakers want to bust the union similar to the air traffic controllers. The Big 3 will move operations to one-stop- full- service assembly plants. GM boasts on its web site: "The total vehicle market in South America strengthened in 2006, with total industry sales at 3,271,812 up 481,540 units from 2005. GM’s South American operations achieved total sales of 730,897 representing an increase of 14.6 percent from 2005 and a market share of 22.3 percent."

If the Big 3 is doing such a bang up job in South America and elsewhere --why not reinvest those revenues. It’s about cheap labor, cutting worker benefits, no oversight and no back talk. (check the Detroit News Automotive Reports: (Ford in Camaceri, Brazil)

Stop blaming the little guys for ill-conceived business planning. THE 20TH CENTURY IS OVER. THE AMERICAN BUSINESS MODEL IS OLD AND RUSTY. COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN OR GET READY FOR THAT NEW ROLE AS A THIRD WORLD MOM & POP OPERATION.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 AM on 12/06/2008
- buzzcowboy I'm a Fan of buzzcowboy 2 fans permalink
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Yes, I don't understand the constant mention of American job loss when GM has thousands of jobs in China and gozillions of dollars being invested there.

Since Buick is the shiaaat in Chinese culture, why not make the cars HERE and then ship them over?

China is just taking to the roads as a nation, for better or worse. They're going to buy cars and they want GM cars. So put the money back into the American economy before you go off and threaten an economic collapse due to the loss of American jobs.

Ted Koppel did an awesome piece on all the outsourcing to China, and he called the GM guy on the old ad slogan "What's good for GM is good for America." Not so anymore.

From the t-shirt perspective, most folks seem to be against a bailout: http://blog.cafepress.com/2008/12/04/a-marine-a-rocket-scientist-and-a-basketball-player-walk-into-a-room/

So how much of that money would these companies put into their foreign plants? I think the American people deserve to know that much. Particularly given that the Paulson bailout isn't even being used to buy distressed mortgages. Great.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 12/10/2008

The Bailout Money Should Pay For Reparations: http://newsone.blackplanet.com/nation/opinion-why-the-bailout-money-should-pay-for-reparations/

There should be another hearing, in due time, about the case of reparations. If we're trying to repair damage done by irresponsible financiers, why not also clean up our historical mess? It shows disregard that we're not even talking about other ways to spend this ridiculous sum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 12/06/2008

I am embarrassed about American cars as I was of George Bush. With Obama I am a proud American. What will it take to change our auto industry so I don't have to apologize for buying the better-made Toyota truck, or Honda Acurra ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 12/05/2008
- Tweet I'm a Fan of Tweet 10 fans permalink
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So we're going to give the auto industry 25 billion, which Congress had earlier provided to help them improve the quality of their products, just to stay afloat - not to improve the products.

Why are we doing this? Because Congress is afraid of cascading unemployment among car dealers, parts suppliers and manufacturers, ad agencies etc. if the Big 3 go under.

Well, here's my prediction: as long as people are afraid to spend on cars or can't get loans to do so, the Big 3 is going to cut jobs, and so are the suppliers and the dealers. This bailout is not going to accomplish what it's intended to.

How do we accomplish what's intended? I still like nationalization, as I said - but if we can't get that, Congress must impose on the Big 3 an obligation not to fire anyone until they've paid our money back. And any supplier who is the ultimate recipient of our money via the Big 3 must agree to the same as a condition of getting paid, or even getting a contract.

There's nothing new about this. Congress has for a long time imposed various requirements on people receiving Federal funds - like hiring minorities, etc. This is standard stuff.

It's pathetic that we have to force people to be good to the middle class.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 12/05/2008
- mauibob I'm a Fan of mauibob 20 fans permalink

"Congress must impose on the Big 3 an obligation not to fire anyone until they've paid our money back"

That's about the stupidest thing I have ever heard. They're selling 40% fewer cars and you want to deny them the ability to cut workers? Let them fail and we will have a strong Ford, Toyota and honda. I won't lose any sleep,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 12/05/2008
- baghdadjoe I'm a Fan of baghdadjoe 37 fans permalink

"These geniuses thought that everybody would want to buy a Hummer and that somehow there was an untold amount of oil under the earth," Moore concluded sarcastically. "Why would we reward them?" -- Michael Moore.

Why indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 12/05/2008
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What exactly makes Detroit deserving of a bailout? There are a lot of towns with depressed economies and laid-off workers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 12/05/2008

As one of the more extreme liberals to post here, I must say I am appalled with many of the anti-big3 comments that precedes mine. I find the notion of having a country with no auto industry to be the 1st step towards the total demise of this economy. If I may attempt an original "Yoggi" perspective: A COUNTRY THAT PRODUCES NOTHING WILL EVENTUALLY CONSUME EVEN LESS. A manufacturing base in this country is essential for continued success and prosperity. To assume that we can rely on Japan, Germany, South Korea, and/or China to manufacture all the things we consume is pure folly. By not having a strong manufacturing base we are setting our kids and grand kids up for a significantly diminished lifestyle. To say the least, going down this path of being nothing more than a society of paper-pushing beemer drivers is foolish and very short-sighted. If this country can heap trillions on the insurance and financial industry, surely it can provide comparable underpinning to the blue collar auto industry. By the way how many of you want to take back those billions to Citibank, AIG, Bear Stearns, or Merrill Lynch. I doubt if you do and in fact you never demanded that they get rid of their corporate jet and come to wahington begging - no, with your support we just wired the billions up to new york and said help yourself boys.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 12/05/2008
- baghdadjoe I'm a Fan of baghdadjoe 37 fans permalink

I don't think anybody here is suggesting that the United States shouldn't have an auto industry. But we should think that the "Big 3" have to survive no matter what either.

Detroit is known for their lack of innovation, and low quality unappealing vehicles. They have FAILED too much for too long. They are like the "Trabant" of the USA. Propping them up no matter what they do will turn us into the old East Germany. We cannot and we must not support this level of dysfunction in our important corporations.

Other companies will come along to fill the void, with bright, motivated people who are determined to innovate and succeed. Sleepy Detroit is ready to take its very long nap - it lacks the will, the resources, the technology, or the motivation to build the cars of the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 12/05/2008
- Beachchick I'm a Fan of Beachchick 312 fans permalink
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This is not true. The U.S. automakers do have the technology, engineers, and innovative ideas to make great cars and other forms of transportation. The auto industry needs the right government policies to encourage the production of highly efficient cars.

The entire corporate culture in this country is dysfunctional. American CEOs make ten times what their counterparts make around the world. Government subsidizes corporate outsourcing. The U.S. tax code provides massive tax giveaways to the already rich and powerful. We just spent over a trillion dollars to save a financial system that can't be saved so that CEOs and share holders get paid. Billions were given to AIG so they can pay credit obligations to Goldman Sachs and shady hedge funds. It is a corrupt mess, but save the last major manufacturing base we have left in this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 12/05/2008

What about those RECORD PROFITS that the oil companies raked in for the past couple of years??? Can't they float their buddies, the car makers, an loan?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 12/05/2008

EXACTLY. This is still my position. The wink - wink relationship between the these two industries has left one of them to twist in the wind. So when even the uber wealthy oil companies won't even THINK about investing in the big 3's future, it's obvious to me that we should take their lead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 12/06/2008
- lunchlady I'm a Fan of lunchlady 17 fans permalink

Good point. But Big Oil probably figures they'll do the same if the Big Three go down, since the Big 3 are now promising to be greener (which I'l believe when I see it).
I haven't been able to stomach Detroit products for years. Too unreliable, plus their fuel economy shenanigans are so shameful. The first gas crisis was 34 years ago, folks. All they wanted to think about was short term profits, and now their companies are in the toilet. That's what short term planning gets you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 12/06/2008

TO: GM,Chrysler,Ford Automakers' Request for $34 Billion from Congress December 5, 2008

Senator Chris Dodd (D) of Connecticut has State Welfare program in winter environment that is only for 6 months which is so cold and uncompassionate since crime exists rampantly and lacks forgiveness and mercy like Jesus showed and many people in need on Welfare. This man is leader of our banking money system. Children,Elderly, some women raped, discriminated against on Welfare. I had quit evil,corrupt jobs myself in past. Millions have gotten on and off Welfare so no need to close them. People can change and be converted. " We must stop blaming the poor because not everyone can be a hero or is above average intelligence. To throw people into the gutter as surplus citizens is heading toward a steep decline. " Liebow,'93

The unemployed,aged are NOT A BURDEN because of buying power and their guaranteed incomes would help prevent a Depression. By Vanza Devereaux The Government of a Free Nation,'63

Sirach 4 states,"My son rob not a man of his livelihood nor turn needy away. A begger in distress do not refuse for if in bitterness of his soul he curse you the Lord will hear his prayer. Catholic Bible

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 12/05/2008

Better idea, let the banks give the Big 3 a loan with the bailout money we paid out to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 12/05/2008
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 34 fans permalink

arnt they all the same lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 12/05/2008

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that whoever forecasts their markets need to be fired. Here and now. But hey guys look at the bright side, they saved some gas by coming in cars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 12/05/2008
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 22 fans permalink

GM stated that China would buy into the American car market.....they already have their foot in everything else. GM already said they want to expand in China and are building a factory in Russia.
Looks like they are already "moving on" and just trying to pacify the U.S.

GM also said they will not use any of the money from the Government outside of the U.S.
Does that mean they will take what they still have and use it to expand in China and Russia......

People were still buying autos and trucks when the gas was high. Most of the working people can't
afford a new car very often anyway.

Didn't Barney Frank do the same "whine" about Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. and all the big
bank bail-outs. Wonder how much some of these people stand to lose in the stock market
if the Government doesn't give them a load of money....
Where was all the whining the past two years when we had a Democrat congress.?????
Sounds like "Politics as Usual" only in a bigger amount of money.

Is this what they mean when they say "TO GO GREEN''...SHOW ME THE "GREEN" MONEY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 12/05/2008
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 34 fans permalink

wall street wants china in to.they want china to dump there cheap unsafe cars in our country.man wall street is realy starting to piss me off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 12/05/2008
- baghdadjoe I'm a Fan of baghdadjoe 37 fans permalink

I would much rather buy a Chinese car than an American gas hog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 12/05/2008
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