Obama's Donor List Asked To Help Pay Clinton Debt

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BETH FOUHY | December 4, 2008 10:34 PM EST | AP

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In this Monday, Dec. 1, 2008 fiel photo Secretary of State-designate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., speaks during a news conference with President-elect Barack Obama, not pictured, in Chicago. With just over six weeks to go before Obama is sworn in as president, Clinton is scrambling to pay down some $7 million in campaign debt before federal ethics rules prohibit her from taking contributions to do so. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak, File)

NEW YORK — President-elect Barack Obama's vast list of donors is being asked to donate to Hillary Rodham Clinton as she scrambles to reduce her massive campaign debt before she becomes secretary of state and federal ethics rule limit her fundraising, an Obama adviser said Thursday night.

An appeal on Clinton's behalf signed by Vice President-elect Joe Biden is to be sent by e-mail to all of the more than three million donors to Obama's record-setting fundraising, according to this adviser, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the e-mail had not yet been sent.

Obama promised after Clinton endorsed him to help her pay off her debt and this is the second time the Obama list has been asked to help Clinton. It was used once during the campaign as well, but its second use underlines the urgency of Clinton's task now that she is Obama's choice to be secretary of state.

Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, will headline a major debt retirement event in New York Dec. 15 with "Ugly Betty" star America Ferrera as master of ceremonies. Tickets range from $50 to $1,000, with top donors earning a premium seat and a backstage photo with the former first lady.

Clinton also plans to sell a children's book, titled "Dreams Taking Flight" by author Kathleen Krull, about her pioneering candidacy. Clinton's mother, Dorothy Rodham, planned to send an e-mail to supporters later this week asking them to purchase the book to help raise funds to pay down Clinton's debt.

On Tuesday, a day after Obama announced she would serve as his top diplomat, Bill Clinton signed an e-mail to supporters asking them to send a note of congratulations to his wife and including a link for contributing to her debt retirement.

The urgency is rooted in the size of the New York senator's unpaid bills and the fundraising restrictions she will face once she joins Obama's cabinet.

At the beginning of November, Clinton owed $7.5 million to vendors from her failed presidential bid, according to campaign finance records. The largest share of the debt _ about $5.3 million _ is owed to the polling firm of Mark Penn, the Clintons' longtime political strategist. She owes hundreds of thousands of dollars for printing, equipment rental, phone banks and other services.

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Clinton has slowly been trimming the debt since suspending her campaign last June, partly with Obama's help. But her fundraising efforts will be curtailed if she is confirmed as secretary of state and becomes covered by the Hatch Act, which regulates political involvement by federal employees.

A 2001 advisory opinion by the federal Office of Special Counsel said a federal employee with a campaign debt would be prohibited from "personally soliciting, accepting or receiving political contributions." That means Clinton's political committee could keep raising money to pay off her creditors, but without her direct involvement.

The lack of access to Clinton could pose a disincentive for donors, said Sheila Krumholz, director of the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks political donations.

"People write a check to get into the room with a candidate or government official. If she's legally barred from fundraising, the No. 1 reason for giving has been removed," Krumholz said. "It's like attending a wedding and the bride isn't there."

The advisory opinion does allow the former candidate to appear briefly at fundraising events and thank donors. That restriction could suit Clinton well, according to some of her top bundlers who say neither she nor her husband has ever been good at asking for donations.

But none of the Hatch Act rules apply until Clinton is confirmed, so there's an opportunity for people eager to get some face time with the incoming secretary of state. Aides said she will try to avoid doing anything that suggests she is leveraging her new post for fundraising advantage.

Brad Smith, a former Federal Election Commission chairman, said Clinton would be wise to avoid any appearance of conflict of interest.

"If nothing else, there's the embarrassment element," Smith said. "A secretary of state trying to raise campaign money is kind of ugly."

Clinton's new job will help her avoid some pitfalls that loom when political access linked to campaign donations. For example, foreign citizens, who might be interested in forging a relationship with an incoming secretary of state, are legally barred from contributing to U.S. political campaigns.

Still, Krumholz said, there are plenty of U.S. citizens with strong ties to other countries who would welcome the chance to write Clinton a check.

"Wealthy people who have family overseas and are tied to issues in the country _ human rights issues, for example _ have more incentive to give," Krumholz said.

Analysts said that fundraising to retire a politician's debt _ never easy _ is more difficult during the recession. Also, Clinton is trying to pay off debts from the Democratic primaries, where many of her supporters already gave the maximum $2,300 per person. They cannot be solicited again.

The large share of her debt owed to Penn, a controversial figure and harsh Obama critic, also complicates matters for Clinton. Many Democrats blamed him for her strategic failings.

Clinton also has about $6 million in her Senate re-election account; some of that could be used under strict restrictions to help pay these debts. Under FEC rules, she would need to ask each contributor's permission to move the donation to her debt retirement account _ and none could come from people who already contributed the maximum to her presidential bid.

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Associated Press Writer Jim Kuhnhenn in Washington contributed to this report.

NEW YORK — President-elect Barack Obama's vast list of donors is being asked to donate to Hillary Rodham Clinton as she scrambles to reduce her massive campaign debt before she becomes secretary...
NEW YORK — President-elect Barack Obama's vast list of donors is being asked to donate to Hillary Rodham Clinton as she scrambles to reduce her massive campaign debt before she becomes secretary...
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What the heck? I will go ballistic, if O. even gives one penny of my $ to her. He will never, ever, get another contribution from me. Period. He can let her, the multi millionaire, pay for her poorly run campaign, a campaign run into the ground by the highrollers, who spent over 100 million dollars of her contributors hard-earned money. No way, no how, no bailout for Hillary Clinton, incoming, Sec. of State.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 12/05/2008
- sunny555 I'm a Fan of sunny555 12 fans permalink
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I am going ballistic, too. She has more money than all of us. Let her pay off her how dam debt

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 12/05/2008
- chriss0114 I'm a Fan of chriss0114 25 fans permalink
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The O cannot redirect contributions to his campaign to her. That is illegal. He is only asking his donors to help pay her debt.

I for one will not donate a penny to the H.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 12/05/2008
- Apov I'm a Fan of Apov 13 fans permalink

Yet another bailout? I don't think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 12/05/2008
- lee4 I'm a Fan of lee4 4 fans permalink

Not a penny from me! She stayed in way too long...hoping for something to happen. She owes 7.5 million and over five of that is to Mark Penn. The Clintons are worth over 109 million...they should pay it off themselves. She gambled and lost!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 12/05/2008
- sunny555 I'm a Fan of sunny555 12 fans permalink
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This is going to bother me for a long time, not that it came as a surprise. It's been floated to the public for quite some time, but it's not any more palatable to me now, than it was when I first heard about it several months ago.

Just when I thought it was safe to be slightly less cynical about our politicians.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 12/05/2008
- MikePS65 I'm a Fan of MikePS65 11 fans permalink
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I'm awfully tired of having to open up my wallet to people who run their enterprises into massive debt - people who, incidentally, live in much bigger houses than mine, and drive much nicer cars than I do. And the last time I flew a corporate jet was... oh yeah, that's right. Never.

And don't expect me to believe that these people are competent managers. Any idiot can operate an unprofitable business. I'm paying plenty enough right now to dig them out of their holes - I'm not going to validate bad business practices any more than I absolutely have to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 12/05/2008
- nolabels I'm a Fan of nolabels 135 fans permalink
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She should have to pay for the debt herself. That will make it sink in that clearly, she bought her job as SoS. Didn't we learn from the Bush years that people need to be qualified for their job? I am not talking about experience...officials need good judgment. Clinton has none. She has substituted political expediency for judgment her whole life. See her campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 12/05/2008
- 1dogs2 I'm a Fan of 1dogs2 133 fans permalink

Well -- she has been nominated for SOS, not of Treasury. I'm willing to suspend judgment as to her ability to manage the former under the close supervision of the new CIC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 12/05/2008
- PaleMail I'm a Fan of PaleMail 13 fans permalink

Let the obnoxious Mark Penn sue for his fees or write if off as bad debt. As to the Clinton's couple of million down the drain, well, they have more money than they and Chelsea can spend in their lifetimes so put that tin cup away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 12/05/2008
- rkimball I'm a Fan of rkimball 5 fans permalink

while he's at it, he can ask donors to pay my debts too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 12/05/2008

Article 1 Section 6 of the Constitution says by LAW Hillary cannot take the position anyway.....
To quote Judicial Watch..........
You see, the Ineligibility Clause (Article 1, Section 6) of the Constitution provides that "No Senator or Representative shall, during the time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time."

And unfortunately for Hillary, a January 2008 Executive Order signed by President Bush (during Hillary Clinton's current Senate term) increased the salary for Secretary of State, thereby rendering Senator Clinton ineligible for the position.

This provision was designed by our Founding Fathers to protect against corruption. (President Ronald Reagan reportedly did not appoint Senator Orin Hatch to the Supreme Court because of this provision.)

There's no getting around the Constitution's Ineligibility Clause. Hillary Clinton is prohibited from serving in the Cabinet until at least 2013, when her current term expires.

And now Hillary is attacking us. Her spokesman smeared us by calling us a "fringe group." Why? For pointing out that the U.S. Constitution – the supreme law of the land – should be followed by President-elect Barack Obama and Senator Hillary Clinton.

Go Away you tired hag!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 12/05/2008

Of course, and Prez Obama was born in Madagascar and this of course makes his presidency illegal. On a serious note (for others), the issue about Sen. Clinton having voted her salary up is true, however, there is also a provision in the law that will allow her to rescind her salary back to where it was when she first took office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 12/05/2008
- clsmithj I'm a Fan of clsmithj 10 fans permalink
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Now I can stand up here and say 'lets get everyone together, lets get unified, the sky will open, the lights will come down, celestial choirs will be singing, and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect.' - - Hillary Clinton

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 12/05/2008
- 1dogs2 I'm a Fan of 1dogs2 133 fans permalink

Thanks for the reminder. The weekend she she indulged her histrionic streak with this quotation (as well as her angry and deliberate misstatement the previous day of Obama's NAFTA position, culminating in her infamous "shame on you" rant) was when I was done with her as a candidate for any elective office ever. I will support her for SOS, but I will not contribute one cent to pay off her remaining campaign debt, which was acquired after it was clear to any rational person that she had no chance of winning -- especially since it would go to pay Penn, and especially since she, unlike hundreds of thousands of other Americans, will not have to stand in line at her local soup kitchen -- which is where my contributions will go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 12/05/2008
- Monrocsol I'm a Fan of Monrocsol 4 fans permalink

God Obama has requested that YOU help pay Hillary Clinton's debt. Will you be a sinner and not do what YOUR God asks of you?

It is called FIGHTING FOR THE NOMINATION.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 12/05/2008

Exactly.

Don't expect any Clinton donations from me.

I'm sure Kissinger and the Republicans are delighted to see her on the team. They know what chaos she and bill will bring to what could have been one of the greatest Presidencies in history.

I gave to Obama and I gave to Richardson and I gave to Bob Barr..............but no a dime for the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 12/05/2008
- Bulbul I'm a Fan of Bulbul 46 fans permalink
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To all the bloggers, yet once more trying to belittle Hillary...it is becoming an entertainment for for some....
I am a Hillary supporter and contributed toward her debt and then I gladly supported Obama with contributions .
If you support Obama you need to support Hillary too, just like us, the Hillary supporters did . By the way, I am still receiving emails from Obama`s camp , to contribute, way more than Hillary !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 12/05/2008
- HBD I'm a Fan of HBD 64 fans permalink
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Wrong. SHE made the bad choice of spending money she didn't have. Obama spent money he had. I'm glad YOU finally saw the light, but that doesn't make Obama supporters liable for Hill's debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 12/05/2008
- Bulbul I'm a Fan of Bulbul 46 fans permalink
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Such arrogance .....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 12/05/2008
- sunny555 I'm a Fan of sunny555 12 fans permalink
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I completely agree. Whose fault is it that she stayed in the race long after she was not a viable candidate? Hers. She stayed in, IMO, because the more votes she could say she had, the more collateral she had to shake down Obama for a cabinet position.

She and Bill are multi millionaires. They should pay off their own debt. I think asking Obama's donors is despicable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 12/05/2008
- rkimball I'm a Fan of rkimball 5 fans permalink

was that hillary i saw the other day ringing a bell in front of a pot wearing a santa costume.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 12/05/2008
- Glowcy I'm a Fan of Glowcy 10 fans permalink

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nope - Hillary needed to leave the primaries after super Tuesday

why aren't those 18 million cracks coughing up the cash - five or ten dollars apiece?

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 12/05/2008
- Monrocsol I'm a Fan of Monrocsol 4 fans permalink

hILLARY SUPPORTER HERE TOO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 12/05/2008
- Pema I'm a Fan of Pema 54 fans permalink
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We need? no we dont need to ..here's the deal, we had to create the perfect storm, we all had to give more than in any campaign, he had to be perfectly dresses, prefectly spoken, he had to have more money, more endoresments and so forth, work incredibly hard, do a ground game that will go down in history. Why? because hillary wanted to continue her slow death march thru the primaries all the while screaming her vitrol from the back of a truck a jeep a stage where ever she could try to destroy Barack Obama, she just didnt camapign, she tried to destroy his politcal future.She praised McCain over another democrat . Engading her people to go after Bill Richardson calling him Judas. And now you want our money. Hillarys lucky he is incredibly gracious to give her anything. And now you want our money . For gods sake she has more money than anyone who reads these blogs, her job is secure, her hubby makes a ton on money and now the plebs are asked to pay tribute to her? laughable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 12/05/2008
- HBD I'm a Fan of HBD 64 fans permalink
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Well, Bill made $10 million last year jetting around and just talking (what he does well whether or not he's paid). He can pay off the $7.5 million debt and STILL have $2.5 million left over--FAR more than most of the people being asked to donate may make in their ENTIRE working life!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 12/05/2008
- Eidolas I'm a Fan of Eidolas 6 fans permalink

While that may be true, you're forgetting the multiple homes they need to pay for, not to mention personal staff, housekeepers, legal bills, etc. you know, those common everyday expenses we all have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 12/05/2008
- sunny555 I'm a Fan of sunny555 12 fans permalink
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Not to mention the money she must pay for personal upkeep. Palin's not the only one. Hillary is not getting her clothing off the rack, believe me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 12/05/2008
- Tropiholic I'm a Fan of Tropiholic 20 fans permalink

Why should anyone else pay off your debt when you stayed in the race and continued to spend $$$$ long after it was obvious to everyone else you couldn't and wouldn't win? eff you hill

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 12/05/2008
- nolabels I'm a Fan of nolabels 135 fans permalink
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Yup

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 12/05/2008

Not to mention how the money was mismanaged.....expensive hotels, thousands on party trays, pizzas and donuts, while Obama and his crew slept in cheap hotels and ate like the rest of us.....ramen noodles and hotdogs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 12/05/2008
- Eidolas I'm a Fan of Eidolas 6 fans permalink

Oh yeah? I wonder if Obama got a free continentel breakfast when he slept at the Motel 6? I wonder which flavor of Ramen noodles he prefers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 12/05/2008
- TotoToo I'm a Fan of TotoToo 3 fans permalink

Let the extortion begin.

Take the olive branch extended to you, Senator Clinton, and be grateful; you lost fair and square.

Your treatment of Obama during the nomination process was undignified and unnecessary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 12/05/2008
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She had better find the 18million that cracked her glass ceiling. They can all give her a couple of dollars each and she will be squared away. As hateful as she was during the campaign, I will not give her Chit.,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 12/05/2008
- Pema I'm a Fan of Pema 54 fans permalink
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hmmm you make a very good point the 18 million cracks would all just have to contribute 35 cents.... think they can manage that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 12/05/2008

If you don't know how to raise money without going in debt, don't run for nothing in politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 12/05/2008
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