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First Posted: 12- 4-08 11:43 AM   |   Updated: 01- 4-09 05:12 AM

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On Monday, Arianna wrote a piece about the terrifying state of America's economy.

So, just like we did with your election anxiety, we asked you to share. And share you did!

We've pulled together a selection of some of the standout stories to share with the rest of our readers -- both to do our part to document the downturn and to make sure that everyone out there feeling the financial pressure knows that they are not alone.

Like we said, the meltdown will be blogged. By you.

Thank you.

To share your stories, your tips, your fears, or your ideas with us, click here and fill out the simple form.

I am 62 years old and retired for 3 years. My husband and I always saved our money. If we had $100 we saved $25. We did not buy furnature for our home, but lived with hand me downs for 20 years. We raised 3 kids and sent them to college on one teacher's salary. We bought used cars and kept them for 12 to 18 years. The money that would have payed for "luxury items" was SAVED! Saved in my husbands 401K, saved in stocks and bonds. We sent all 3 kids to college without taking out loans or going into debt. They went to state schools with some academic scholarships and all graduated and are good citizens today. We felt like we had "done the right thing", and then one day in Sept. 2008 the 401K was gone. The money we had put into it when we had very little to add, but always made that deposit. That money was gone! It was our savings that took 40 years to accumulate with hard work, and even harder "sacrifice" to save it. Gone in a day! It was to be used to travel,something we never had time for when raising a family.It was for our kids when we are gone and our grandkids. But now it is gone.
Mimi, Berlin


My partner and I formed a business in 1979. We've had ups and downs over the past 29 years but we've survived nicely and managed to grow modestly each year...For the past 10 years, we've kept our expenses minimal and never had more than two associates in spite of suggestions that we add more people...Then came last November...Virtually all of our work dried up and what we receive now trickles in periodically. Our 2008 gross is down 50% from 2007.

I had surgery late last year and the only way we've been able to keep any staff employed is because I've been disabled and what would have been paid to me is going to staff. I'm seriously considering retiring since I have become physically disabled and there's little incentive to return to a business that isn't likely to survive much longer. My situation is no where near as awful as many others because we won't lose our home or our life if I am forced into retirement: Many other's aren't so lucky.
Roger, Stockton, California

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i run a home daycare center and have since i was laid off toward the end of bush one's presidency. funny, but during that time, my husband and i both lost our jobs in the air freight industry 3 months apart from each other. of course it wasn't funny then. we did what we had to in order to support 4 kids. we delivered newspapers, my husband took a part time job at target. i decided to open my own daycare center within our home. i watched kids day and night. weekends and 24 hour care. i've been doing it now for 17 years. now i watch my daycare parents struggle as we did over 17 years ago. some are self employed and have no business. others are seeing co-workers get laid off and wonder when they will be next. others have been laid off and can't find jobs. others are forced to take pay cuts and work longer hours. these are just the families within my own daycare. my son is a recent college graduate and plans to attend law school since the job market is so poor. i dont know how he plans to pay for it though. we sure dont have the money to send him. we have a daughter in her freshman year of college who worries her financial aid will dry up. my IRA is worthless along with my husband's 401 K. we are fortunate to have been in our house over 10 years so we are not affected by the housing crisis. i see how our society replaced credit for wages. most of us dont know what it means to save for a washing machine, we just charge it. i remember my parents selling everything they could when my dad was laid off in 1974. now we live on credit. somehow we've lost sight of financial responsibility. we as a people, as a country, need to find our way back.
Karen, Arvada, Colorado


I worked for a tech company that provided support tools to the finance industry in New York and was in the first round of layoffs when this recession began back in January of this year (2008). After several months of looking for work I was forced to look outside of NY and ended up finding work starting in May in California. I'm a single parent with multiple sclerosis and a son in college. His father is on SSI due to emphysema and cirrhosis of the liver so it's been up to me to provide for our son. My choice was to stay in my house in NY with NO JOB or leave that house and come to California where I could, at least, find a job. I left. The house has been on the market since April and despite the price now being reduced to below what I owe on it, I've had NO OFFERS. I can't afford to live here and make payments there and am just waiting for the lender to foreclose. I will lose all my savings in that house. Three years ago when I moved to NY I put $50,000 down on that house. It completely aggravates me that the "experts" have been denying we're heading for a depression. Wake up guys, we're there.
JK, Santa Clara, CA


I am 55-years old. I hold a doctorate in music (earned in 1994 - so that is really when my career began) and have an excellent reputation as a scholar, performer, and education. I teach at a small liberal arts college in Nebraska. We have seen a drastic drop in our enrollment. Students can't get loans or jobs to pay our higher than average tuition. Our music department is really struggling and was the target of faculty/staff cuts two years ago. This year, it was announced in August that the college would stop making contributions to our IRAs. I an really afraid: first for our department and my job and secondly for the college overall...So, here I am a highly educated professional with very specific skills, facing unemployment with little in retirement since I have only worked full-time for 10 years. I have a 20-year old son and college and co-signed post-grad professional loans for my daughter. I never expected, at my age, to be facing these obstacles. The stress is significant, but I don't know what to do except go to work every day and hope for a miracle.
Peggy, Omaha, NE


I just turned 59. I have worked for 42 years of my life. Now I am living in a tent in someone's backyard... I had to sleep in my car for a week or more. I could be staying in an RV, but the tent actually has more space... I have had no income since September and mostly $500 a month income for much of this year, except for June when I received more money from a friend. what I see is that all of our systems are set up to penalize and criminalize the poor. can't pay for registration and insurance for your car? you are a criminal. cannot pay for rent? cannot pay for food? cannot pay for gas? where are you supposed to go? cannot pay for health care? tough luck, go die. I have a BA degree and am a professional. Two years ago when I hurt my wrist I looked into going on disability but found out that I would be lucky to get approved in two years... welfare, food stamps? social security? I do not qualify because why? I am a third generation American and my family is DEAD but because I have no income, but had some money way back in June, and have a car, I do not qualify? the red tape and rigamorale is difficult to deal with... exhausting. they say they need substitute teachers, same red tape, and you have to spend money to get the job... where am I supposed to get the money? churches social service agencies, each one passes the buck, sends you to some place else. food banks expect you to live on tuna, peanut butter and pasta, if you do not have a kitchen, how are you supposed to cook the pasta???
Sue, NYC


My teenage son lives with severe autism, as do 1 in every 150 boys today. The greatest tragedy of the economic meltdown in the richest country in the world is the further erosion and neglect of our government in supporting people who need the most help, those with disabilities who cannot live independently. At a time when diagnoses have surged, ironically over the past 8 years services were cut and now will disappear, leaving aging parents to care for their adult children at home until . . . the inevitable. What happens to those adults with autism when their parents are gone? Thankfully institutions are not the answer anymore, however now there are no new group homes opening, and agencies serving the disabled no longer have funds to operate. When a provider can make more working at Wal-Mart than teaching a young disabled adult a vocational skill that says something about our priorities as a country. Why was there no money 8 years ago when we asked for help, yet billions are suddenly found to support banks, Wall St., the auto companies, construction companies, etc? The money is there - let's reset our prioirities and leave a standard of living to our children better than what can be found in Sudan. This is America after all.
Susan, Harbeson, DE


I used to work for Sony Electronics when they still made television sets here in San Diego (as recent as 2002!). When this business moved to China, I was laid off and tried to establish my own specialty retail business. Shorly thereafter I became a business statistic when the business failed. After a 18 month period of unemplyment, I found at a position in our local school district, making about 50% less than when I was at Sony. Within a year I found a better position at Pfizer, but the big-pharma was already foundering, and was laid-off after less than a year. Since then I have not been able to find suitable employment. Had my wife not been a highly skilled Registered Nurse we would have lost our home long ago and suffered additional financial consequences.


I am now planning to attend a paralegal certificate program at a local university in January, and should be on the hunt for employment in May. I have been unemployed 3 weeks to long to qualify for extended unemployment benefits, so I have received almost no help from the state or Uncle Sam. At 54 years of age none of this is coming easy for me. Aside from the financial issues, the emotional stress has been tremendous. Had it not been for friends and playing sax in a local big band, I probably would be dead by know. I've learned that money is not the most important thing in life! I consider myself well educated (BS Virginia Tech, MBA University of Phoenix), and have a lifetime of operational business experience, so why can't I find suitable employment? When somebody with my education and experience is tossed away by society, I wonder how those less fortunate can make it. We are fast becoming a third world country, it's not the place I grew up in. I fear for the next generation. Best regards,
Drew, San Diego, CA


This is what amazes me about my life in America right now: No heat. No heat last winter.....No heat this winter....And I thought I was alone. But this year, I checked in on the Frugal Living board of a popular mother's website, and what did I see? Women asking each other what to do when you have children at home, and you can't afford to fire up your furnace. And then, a few women on another mother's group I belong to admitted that they had no heat this winter, as well. Some of these women are pregnant, and due to deliver this winter. Most of us have husbands who work; but the downsizings and wage stagnation, and unemployment have taken their toll. So when money ran out, and the heat bill couldn't be paid...well, there never was enough extra to get the heat turned back on. Here's another thing I've learned: Having a college degree no longer serves as a safety net against impoverishment. I look around me, and well-educated friends simply can not find jobs. Naturally, I worry about the struggle.
Faith, East Windsor, NJ


I am 61 years old and bought my first house in 2007. The bank told me that I could afford a home up to $160,000. I had no money for a down payment. "Are you sure I can afford a home for $160,000?"


"Sure, no problem."


When all was said and done, I found a home for $151,000 and the monthly payment was almost $1,300. I am not in foreclosure but I have built up a credit card debt of $7,000. I have made my mortgage payments but I have not been able to keep up with other monthly expenses. I cannot afford to refinance at a lower rate because I do not have the cash for the closing. It will just be a matter of time before I lose my home.


I have a Master's in Library Science, I make a nice salary but I cannot afford my home. Foreclosure is on the horizon and I do not believe I have any options but to lose my home. I feel like I have been robbed these past eight years.


The current bailout does not seem to be making its way to Main Street.
Hjordis, Durham, NC


I am a 42 year old single mother. I've been without a job for a year now. All my savings are dried up at this moment and I don't know how I am going to meet my rent for this month. I've started a vending business about three months ago with the perspective of getting a monthly stream of income, but at this moment i've jet to get all of my routes. I can not afford to shop at the supermarket, me and my daughter are living of the local food pantry. I have to cancel my cable and cook at least once a week to safe on my electric bill. I only pray that our next President is able to fix this and he will need all the help that he can get. It is a relieve to see that the gas prices went down. I try to keep a positive outlook on the situation, through my faith in God. I pray for our new President and helps to know that through him we have hope for the future. I hope my story will help someone to see that eventough we in this situation all hope is not lost. We all have to have faith that it will get better, because of the faith that we have as americans.
Linda, Marietta


My story started with a layoff (11 of 25 employees) from a small biotech company outside of Philadelphia in June 2007. It took me 5 months to find a permanent position with a salary in alignment with my experience. In the 5 months it took me to find this job, I lost everything.


I am a divorced mother of three. When I divorced, I was doing well financially (I do not receive alimony) and purchased a townhouse for myself and children. When I lost my job, the savings were gone instantly as Unemployment Benefits did not cover much. As the mortgage got 2 months and then 3 months behind, I had no idea what we would do. I could not find a way to stay afloat. In desperation, I sent my younger children to live with their father. I did not want them to go though the horrifying process of 'mom falling apart at the seams' because we were about to have nowhere to live. My oldest child went to live with family friends (he was 16 at the time).


The economic meltdown was causing a complete meltdown of me and my family. The mental stress and anxiety became too much for me I and made two attempts on my life. Two days before Christmas Dec 2007, I had to be out of my house for good. My van was repossessed as well. I was no longer allowed to see my younger children due to my suicide attempts. My depression was all consuming. I did not eat or sleep well for months. I filed for bankruptcy and hoped the New Year would offer some ray of hope.


Today, 02Dec2008, I am employed. I am renting a place with my oldest son. My two little ones still live with Dad. He has not allowed them to return to live with me and I do not have the finances to fight him. I miss them every moment. Although money is extremely tight (I am starting a second job this week), we are making it.
Kimberly, Conyngham

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I graduated college and thought that there would be a proper job out there waiting for me. So far I'm working for minimum wage and they cut me from 25 to 20 hours a week. I don't have any health insurance, and I work for a hospital. It's really messed up how bad things have gotten for my generation. No one talks about the college graduates when we talk about how hard this recession is hitting us. Yes, people are getting laid off, but you know what? Those people at least had a chance and a job. I didn't even get that opportunity. I paid taxes, I worked hard, and now I've got nothing to show for it. No that's not true, I've got a mountain of debt from student loads with no good way to pay them off.
I just got paid today, and for two weeks of work, I got compensated 200 dollars. They took 50.00 out of my check for taxes. Tax money which will go to Citigroup and all the other places like AIG, so that they could take another vacation.
Yet somehow we're supposed to be impressed that the CEO's aren't getting compensated. Woopie freaking doo. They were compensated on our backs all the way through the last eight years. They sit on a nest egg bigger than most people's 401K's and yet we're supposed to fall over ourselves at their "generosity" in the auto industry of taking a 1.00 a year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 12/05/2008

YOu make a good point. So many CEO socked away so much money that they live in mansions that are paid for and have paid off their beach house and hunting lodge as well. When they fly above us in their private jets they don't see the struggles of the vast majority of Americans. They might get a little nervous about their stock investments, but I am sure that is one reason the Treasury Department is focusing on rescuing the banks and the investment companies. The idea of getting credit flowing again is a smokescreen since most people can't afford more credit debt. Once the limousines start getting blicks through the window then we will know that the people have had it with the wealth disparity and are going to do what they can to protest against it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 12/05/2008
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This is so heartbreaking and demoralizing.

It is clear and obvious, now - after we all lose our dignity, that the American worker has been attacked and looted by the banking giants and their mass advertised credit card offers, and the promising mortgage loan officers with their total corruption of professionalism, and by the vast right-wing push for take-your-chances 401K retirement stock funds and private health-care that nobody can afford that does not currently have a steady job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 12/05/2008
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 39 fans permalink
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Almost everyone is poor now, i mean pay check to paycheck, is a joke, people's paychecks are covering less and less, my bill cycle finally got so screwed that not only am i behind, I am using next months money to pay on this months bills, and the still are not paid in full. I cannot find a part time job to fill the void, I have

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 12/05/2008
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It is of Little Solace

The words that I write are of little solace.
Blogging, commenting, extolling, explaining, and exclaiming cannot pay the bills.
The eloquent sentiment of congressional representatives about the plight of average Americans is of little solace.
Their words cannot put food on the table of an unemployed person with deemed “irrelevant” skills.
The expressed pity of the rich is of little solace.
They may mean well but a storm is loud and tends to cloud and muffle.
Therefore, the well-meaning pity of someone fortunate is hard to see, hear, or appreciate in the midst of the downpour of dire economic struggle.

I cannot write a cure for what I read here and what I already knew about this world and this life.
You are on your own is what it boils down to, it is all about struggle and strife.
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps is the societal prescription, you can make it too.
Look not to society if you find yourself barefoot and starving, about that condition, society does not know what to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 12/05/2008
- yearlin I'm a Fan of yearlin 4 fans permalink

wtf?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 12/05/2008
- gmlaster I'm a Fan of gmlaster 40 fans permalink

It means "God will provide".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 12/05/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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FTD t-- he flowers people. Have a carnation and think good thoughts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 12/05/2008
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"Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. … So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' … But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow." (Matthew 6:26-34)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 12/05/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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Acceptance of your place, your moment, your life, not with a filter that paints a rosy perspective or one that makes all grey and dim. Look at yourself with the freedom of eyes, heart, and mind that fear not, worries not, cares not, but loves all, who are people kind, who are living beings. I am satisfied where I am at -- because it is where I am.

As for scripture and God providing, I definitely believe that. More than once God has intervened on my behalf. However, I know not what God looks like, how God can be God, or the tone of God’s voice. I only know God through undeniable feeling the kind not provided to me but that came with me into this place called life. I trust that feeling where words have been manipulated by feeble people to get paltry sums of reward -- thirty pieces of silver indeed! I would rather be accepting, poor and dying, than rich and struggling on a mountain of denial and lying. I would rather not know where my next meal is coming from then live a life of true spirit undone or overcome by twist and turns of morality and the banality of people kind.

I love God. I love all people. People sadden me though, and the bible has served to help people deliver sadness upon the world. Love to you for reaching out, but I had to expand beyond that kind act in response.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 12/05/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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II
If you fall down and scrape your knees in your travels, society will help you in civil court, with a ruling and a bang of the gavel.
Society will lock you in the credit score stockade; you will have to give up a large percentage of life, and every dollar made -- just so that bailed out creditors can be paid.
Yet my pathetic little rhymes provide no solace or service except maybe to distract.
Nothing I can offer can get a foreclosed home back.
Nothing I can say will hold sway with someone struggling to make it, wondering if they can take it, wondering if they are in a momentary funk, and if in time, they will shake it, this descent into the financial doldrums, this romp through an economic swampland where fortunes have sunk.

Yet, I am compelled to write these words and with the hope that I not perturb.
These times call for more than hand wringing, lip service, pity, and continued disastrous self-interest. It is nigh time for us truly, to make a great leap towards a more perfect union. The wealthy can remain wealthy and lead the way for others to assume wealth. The super rich can remain super rich, and lead the way for others to be so bedazzled. However, the middle class and the poor cannot remain on the treadmill for they are tired and near a revolutionary spirit. Time is running out on the horse and buggy pace of fairness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 12/05/2008
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I "think" my jobloss story is unique. My wife of 23 years died last Xmas. She was the primary breadwinner. I continued to work in a small, 2 man business. I was the only employee. After about 6 months, my boss, the owner approached me and said, "Get over her, join our church and marry one of our women, or leave this business". Because of the work related laws in this state, what he did was perfectly legal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 12/05/2008
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??!!

That's terrible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 12/05/2008

I think you may have legal recourse there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 12/05/2008

Indeed. This story is missing more than a little of the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 12/05/2008

Please tell us what state forced you to marry someone in order to keep your job?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 12/05/2008
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no one forced me to marry. It was given as my only option to remain employed. I choose to leave. My state is not a "right to work" state, you can be dismissed for no reason. I hope your neocon high horse never bucks you off it's back. The ground can be a pretty dirty place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 12/05/2008
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WOW...So sorry to hear about your the lost of your wife. Similar situation happened to me when my grandmother passed. Employers just don't care anymore about family values. The only thing they care about is their bottom-line and how they squeeze every ounce of energy out of you to fatten their bank accounts. That's why I quit and started my own business so I could spend more time with my family and I've yet to look back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 12/05/2008

But you are employed now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 12/05/2008
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I'm angry at the unspoken rule of "perfect victim".

The reactions to financial stories here reminds me of type 2 diabetes. People piling on to blame the person if they did not do everything perfectly. In the former, it might be a second mortgage, a credit card that jumped to 29% (whiny voice: "you should've read the fine print, d-ummy") or two cars; in the latter it includes things like ignorance that psych meds and processed "wheat bread" trigger the disease's predisposition in people with a desk job that are 20 pounds overweight.

At what point do we show compassion?

Must everything be passed through a filter of "perfect scenario"?

Reminds me of the p.i. case where the alcoholic crossing the street legally can't recover in an injury case.

I'm tired of "perfect" hard luck stories. Let's hear the human ones.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 12/05/2008

It's all about demonizing the poor and struggling. An unfortunate political tactic to the Reagan era.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 12/05/2008
- Babzter I'm a Fan of Babzter 23 fans permalink
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Remember "Reagan Soup"? Ketchup and hot water.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 12/05/2008
- mcliberty I'm a Fan of mcliberty 3 fans permalink

another troll

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 12/05/2008
- plwood01 I'm a Fan of plwood01 15 fans permalink

Let's hear yours, the one that explains why you are so angry because folks are taking this chance to vent and commune with one another?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 12/08/2008
- AContrario I'm a Fan of AContrario 5 fans permalink

By the way I live in London,UK. Things are getting a bit tight over here but not that tight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 12/05/2008

They are not that tight here either. This is similar to the Salem witch trials. One person says they see a witch and then suddenly there are witches everywhere.

Some of the extreme stories above, such as the guy living in a tent, are most likely by choice or are dubious. Most likely the person made a bad choice (that he did not mention) and is blaming the tough economic times for his poor choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 12/05/2008
- wolfgangmo I'm a Fan of wolfgangmo 21 fans permalink
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Thank you frictionless for being a perfect little sociopath. I guess because you choose not to see it and it isn't happening to you that it just isn't real. Wow, what a world view you have.

It must be nice to have the "truth" at your fingertips. Please tell us, o swami, what we should do. Tell us how we are stupid. Tell us how we are to blame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 12/05/2008

You don't know what you're talking about. The Bush administration has nearly bankrupt this country. Maybe you are still living comfortably but maybe you should try getting out once in awhile.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 12/05/2008
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Your perfection drips from your pores. Self-righteous, much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 12/05/2008
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frictionle­ss........­..........­.causing friction wherever you go no doubt!
Let's talk about bad choices...­..........­......I wonder if YOUR" GOOD CHOICES " may have been good for you; bad for others? That's often the way it works!
How about a choice between a moral emperative that causes income loss or stasis rather than gain. Is that a "bad choice"?
All of us in Downeast MAine CHOSE to be here in better economic times.....­......now that they are bad was it a bad choice to be here? Would it have been better to have stayed below in the Urban/Suburban areas breathing in auto fumes, and undergoing the stress of waiting in line for everything/ highway driving? Yes WE ARE IN A DEEP RECESSION HERE!
It seems to me that an ADEQUATE DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY ,should support many different choices rather than force everyone into one cramped box!
I have chosen to tred the high moral ground in my life, therefore I am now poor......­..Do you consider that to be a poor choice?
At re you saying that one has to be unethical to be comfortable?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 12/05/2008

I am not certain if you are attempting to play devils advocate or if you are serious.. i can't seem to wrap my head around the fact that you are in fact serious.

i wrote one of the stories above. I did EVERYTHING I could to avoid the situation.

Be careful of the embers you stir up for they may turn around and burn you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 12/05/2008
- AContrario I'm a Fan of AContrario 5 fans permalink

I am shell-shocked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 12/05/2008

HGTV sure has changed their programming quickly. No longer are folks on House Hunter complaining that the 5 car garage isn't big enough, there's no granite counter tops, 4,000 square feet is too small for 2 people and their pug, there's no pool, the closets aren't big enough....­. no more "Flip This House" type of shows ( paint a little &get rich quick )

they must have had a epiphany that that sort of programming was putting ideas of grandeur into people's heads and now is not the time. Now, the shows are all about people moving into smaller houses or renting apartments. It's still fantasy because I can't believe any of those monster behemoth McMansions are selling now. so Boom. Foreclosure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 AM on 12/05/2008
- gwhizz I'm a Fan of gwhizz 20 fans permalink

LOL! No more of that, "I can't live with this bathroom!" when the bathroom is as big as my whole house (and I have a good sized house!). Those people make me sick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 12/05/2008

Yeah- HGTV was a Hollywood fantasy all along. Note they only profiled houses and home-buyers who are in the top 5%-10%, and pretend that the bottom 90% don't exist in their pristine world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 12/05/2008

Here's an interesting thought: Is someone with a high speed connection to the internet really going through tough economic times?

If you're going through tough economic times, are you really going to have 3 hours a day to spend on the Huffington Post blogging about how much your life sucks?

We'll know when we're in a depression, because no one will be here. Either Huffington will be unable to pay the server costs, or you will be unable to pay your internet bill. Until then, we're still doing much better than the rest of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 12/05/2008

Oh, really? The rest of the modern world lives 10 times better than America. Our minimum wage here is 10 euros an hour......­....

Everyone here has high speed internet..­....its NORMAL....­..........­99.5 percent of the country is online.

20 Euros a month for internet .........f­ull health care coverage for 100 Euros a month.

Try blowing your smoke about how ''great'' you are up someone else's butt.

Evidently you have never been to a truly modern country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 12/05/2008

I have been all over the world and yet I still choose to live in the best country.

Your minimum wage is high but so are your taxes. Your cost for the internet is similar to the cost here.

Your cost for health care does not include the extraordinary taxes you pay from your income. While you wait in line for specialists, I can quickly get an appointment here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 12/05/2008
- ExpatDane I'm a Fan of ExpatDane 5 fans permalink

It is sad to read these stories and to think that it had to come to this for most of these people to realize what folks from the community I come from have been struggling with all of there lives.

Obama talks about making life fine again for the middle class - but life will never be fine again for the middle class until Americans agree to pay takes, reprioritize government spending and take care of their poor. Actually, their impoverished, because the middle class is now the poor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 12/05/2008
- barriosbabe I'm a Fan of barriosbabe 241 fans permalink
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I think government letting greedy oil, big pharma, banks etc get away with everything is the real problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 12/05/2008
- biwee I'm a Fan of biwee 13 fans permalink

Americans should look at the "WHY" of all this economic misery. The crooks who run Wall St convinced the US Congress to repeal in 1999 a 1933 act that put a firewall between commerical and investment banking. The criminals at the big Wall St/NY investment banking houses and commercial banks then started the CMO scam that has wrecked the financial infastructure of this nation. Now, WHAT has been the response of the Bush administra­tion??????­?....to bail out the very same criminals who caused the problem. A good example is Paulson shipping money to his friends in NY, after they made millions and billions on the CMO scam. Republicans, with lax, or nonexistant, oversight at the SEC, OTS, Comptroller of the Currency, FDIC, and US Treasury Dept are directly responsible for this nightmare. So, Americans who supported the UNNECESSARY war of choice in Iraq, a war "sold" to the American people with LIES, is it so good NOW?? The war in Iraq will cost about $2 Trillion in the final analysis. A few big DOD related companies and Blackwater have made hundreds of Billions of dollars. But, YOU, suckers who were celebrating in March of 2003 as the bombs and milliles were falling on Bagdad, YOU will have a hard time surviving the Bush nightmare.
And, the people in NY who caused this problem will have NO worries as they have their fortunes and huge estates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 AM on 12/05/2008

Thank YOU.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 12/05/2008

Reading A Tale of Two Cities with my son. One herald of the coming French revolution was the buring down of the chateau of a nobleman All the poor gathered around with candles of their own as the fire lit up the night. Dick Cheney and others may have to hire Blackwater for protection. Obama needs to put his finger on the problem and start holding accountable those who developed this climate of greed that has led to this crisis. Instead it appers he is appointing them to the economic council to solve the problem. Something smells fishy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 12/05/2008
- ozamerican I'm a Fan of ozamerican 2 fans permalink

I'd like to add a postscript­....

When I came to Australia in 2002, it was culture shock--shops all close at 5 p.m. except one night a week ("Late Night Shopping") when they stay open until 9 p.m. Few fast food chains--mostly local cafes and restaurants. Clothes are more cheaply made--not "top end" as Americans get from China. "White goods" (appliances) all cheaper because they seem to be subsidised Australian-made goods and not nearly the same quality (no Sub-Zero here). Stationery very much more cheaply made, cars in a narrow range (not nearly the selection), books much more expensive, and so on. No recreational shopping here. People don't enjoy spending money here nearly as much as they do in America. Debt is high, though, because home ownership is high, but even then, every first time home buyer gets a grant from the government.

Despite all that, people enjoy what Americans would call the finer things in life--beautiful wines, outstanding cuinine, gorgeous beaches, a more relaxed lifestyle.

It doesn't have anything to do with consumerism. It has to do with simple enjoyment, and enjoying simple things.

It's so complicated living in the U.S. No one seems to know how to be happy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 AM on 12/05/2008
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Personally, that sounds nice. I'd almost move there. I love the simple life-it's easier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 AM on 12/05/2008

in 1989 I was living in the USA and working one full time job and 2 part time jobs just to make ends meet.

I searched and searched for many months for overseas jobs. Finally, I got one and moved out of the USA ..........­..Haven't been back since to live, and don't miss it one bit. Of course people will say they don't miss me either. But I am living comfortably with nice big fat savings account built by putting the money I would have ordinariy paid in withholding into an account in Zurich.

I feel sorry for some of you there but not for anyone who voted for Bush and the war on Iraq.

Karma is indeed a beacth (especially the collective kind).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 AM on 12/05/2008

All the Americans who are in Cologne for the first time are surprised about our "live and let live" lifestyle. Quality of life does not mean working extra hours to buy stuff you don't need to show it to people you don't like. You don't need megastores open for 24 hours. When you find others not too hung up about their "status", you can afford as well to take it easy. When nobody wants to impress you, you don't have too impress anyone. I was in Australia twice and amazed how they live. We have it good in Cologne, but Australians are more relaxed than we are. It's not so crowded over there though neither Germany or Australia compare to America. In America you live to work, in Europe you work to live.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 AM on 12/05/2008
- plwood01 I'm a Fan of plwood01 15 fans permalink

Agreed, we have forgotten the little things in life that make people happy, like working in the garden, growing some fruits and vegetables, or painting while the sun goes down, it does not matter where one is when the view is overwhelming and you wish that you could stay there forever. I remember spending time on my grandmother's farm, chasing chickens she would catch and ring their necks while all us kids ran around trying to stop them so she could pluck the feathers and fry them up for our supper. I even remember the out house and the smell of the country air. There was an artisan well on the property and the water was so cold in the middle of the summer in 90 degree weather. The Kentucky Blue Grass was beautiful in the morning when the dew was still on the petals of the rose bushes outside the kitchen window. My grandmother was born in the 1800's and my mother and father in early 1900s! They left me with the knowledge of how to live simply even though enjoyed what life had to offer them always. They taught me to survive whatever comes along! My mom will be 103 in January, she has seen it all, been through it all, and is continuing to enjoy it all! She says the only thing she regrets is having her health like when she was seventy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 12/08/2008
- ozamerican I'm a Fan of ozamerican 2 fans permalink

I left America in 2002 and came to Australia. Even then it was possible to see the writing on the wall. Except back then people thought I was a total pessimist for thinking the end was nigh.

Timing is difficult, but better to be too early than too late.

I don't have any high hopes for a recovery in my lifetime. I think the financial balance of power now shifts to China, just as it shifted from London to New York at one time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 AM on 12/05/2008

Americans seem to be the kings and queens of denial. I have been constantly teased about being a "pessimist" even as I watch companies melt down, jobs shipped off shore, and neighbors lose their homes. Still, the majority seem to feel, "it'll get better soon" when the fundamentals are not good and not improving.

We actually live in a 3rd world nation now.
But as long as we deny it... everything's OK?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 AM on 12/05/2008

Amen Brother ( or Sister, whichever the case may be)

Propaganda being spewed by the mega-money people are affecting Americans by bombarding them with phrases like 'staying safe', and war on terror hmmm? Head in the sand much? Yep.

Wal-mart has the marketing and television and news power to turn mobs into frenzied killers. The stories in print about the man being trampled to death, all have the economic results of 'black friday' in the same paragraph where they give the story of this manic attack. People continued to shop. Employees continued to sell.

There is like a media silence, people would rather not think about or address what we have become. Yes, idlehands, we are 3rd world, savages.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 AM on 12/05/2008
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Careful now...unle­ss you have lived in a 3rd world country you really wouldn't be making that comment. I just moved from Atlanta 3 months ago thinking that coming back to Kenya (after 14 years) would be any better. Wrong. We have food shortages (right now of milk and maize flour, which is the main ingredient for "Ugali" - a dish that most poor people eat everyday), electricity rationing, water rationing - some people have to actually buy water, potholes with some road in them, hospitals with no drugs (or water, or elec for that matter), disease...­.need I go on. Yes, I understand that the US is in economic turmoil right now but you should never compare yourself with a 3rd world country because most people here would trade places with you in a second.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 12/05/2008
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