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First Posted: 12- 4-08 11:43 AM   |   Updated: 01- 4-09 05:12 AM

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On Monday, Arianna wrote a piece about the terrifying state of America's economy.

So, just like we did with your election anxiety, we asked you to share. And share you did!

We've pulled together a selection of some of the standout stories to share with the rest of our readers -- both to do our part to document the downturn and to make sure that everyone out there feeling the financial pressure knows that they are not alone.

Like we said, the meltdown will be blogged. By you.

Thank you.

To share your stories, your tips, your fears, or your ideas with us, click here and fill out the simple form.

I am 62 years old and retired for 3 years. My husband and I always saved our money. If we had $100 we saved $25. We did not buy furnature for our home, but lived with hand me downs for 20 years. We raised 3 kids and sent them to college on one teacher's salary. We bought used cars and kept them for 12 to 18 years. The money that would have payed for "luxury items" was SAVED! Saved in my husbands 401K, saved in stocks and bonds. We sent all 3 kids to college without taking out loans or going into debt. They went to state schools with some academic scholarships and all graduated and are good citizens today. We felt like we had "done the right thing", and then one day in Sept. 2008 the 401K was gone. The money we had put into it when we had very little to add, but always made that deposit. That money was gone! It was our savings that took 40 years to accumulate with hard work, and even harder "sacrifice" to save it. Gone in a day! It was to be used to travel,something we never had time for when raising a family.It was for our kids when we are gone and our grandkids. But now it is gone.
Mimi, Berlin


My partner and I formed a business in 1979. We've had ups and downs over the past 29 years but we've survived nicely and managed to grow modestly each year...For the past 10 years, we've kept our expenses minimal and never had more than two associates in spite of suggestions that we add more people...Then came last November...Virtually all of our work dried up and what we receive now trickles in periodically. Our 2008 gross is down 50% from 2007.

I had surgery late last year and the only way we've been able to keep any staff employed is because I've been disabled and what would have been paid to me is going to staff. I'm seriously considering retiring since I have become physically disabled and there's little incentive to return to a business that isn't likely to survive much longer. My situation is no where near as awful as many others because we won't lose our home or our life if I am forced into retirement: Many other's aren't so lucky.
Roger, Stockton, California

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i run a home daycare center and have since i was laid off toward the end of bush one's presidency. funny, but during that time, my husband and i both lost our jobs in the air freight industry 3 months apart from each other. of course it wasn't funny then. we did what we had to in order to support 4 kids. we delivered newspapers, my husband took a part time job at target. i decided to open my own daycare center within our home. i watched kids day and night. weekends and 24 hour care. i've been doing it now for 17 years. now i watch my daycare parents struggle as we did over 17 years ago. some are self employed and have no business. others are seeing co-workers get laid off and wonder when they will be next. others have been laid off and can't find jobs. others are forced to take pay cuts and work longer hours. these are just the families within my own daycare. my son is a recent college graduate and plans to attend law school since the job market is so poor. i dont know how he plans to pay for it though. we sure dont have the money to send him. we have a daughter in her freshman year of college who worries her financial aid will dry up. my IRA is worthless along with my husband's 401 K. we are fortunate to have been in our house over 10 years so we are not affected by the housing crisis. i see how our society replaced credit for wages. most of us dont know what it means to save for a washing machine, we just charge it. i remember my parents selling everything they could when my dad was laid off in 1974. now we live on credit. somehow we've lost sight of financial responsibility. we as a people, as a country, need to find our way back.
Karen, Arvada, Colorado


I worked for a tech company that provided support tools to the finance industry in New York and was in the first round of layoffs when this recession began back in January of this year (2008). After several months of looking for work I was forced to look outside of NY and ended up finding work starting in May in California. I'm a single parent with multiple sclerosis and a son in college. His father is on SSI due to emphysema and cirrhosis of the liver so it's been up to me to provide for our son. My choice was to stay in my house in NY with NO JOB or leave that house and come to California where I could, at least, find a job. I left. The house has been on the market since April and despite the price now being reduced to below what I owe on it, I've had NO OFFERS. I can't afford to live here and make payments there and am just waiting for the lender to foreclose. I will lose all my savings in that house. Three years ago when I moved to NY I put $50,000 down on that house. It completely aggravates me that the "experts" have been denying we're heading for a depression. Wake up guys, we're there.
JK, Santa Clara, CA


I am 55-years old. I hold a doctorate in music (earned in 1994 - so that is really when my career began) and have an excellent reputation as a scholar, performer, and education. I teach at a small liberal arts college in Nebraska. We have seen a drastic drop in our enrollment. Students can't get loans or jobs to pay our higher than average tuition. Our music department is really struggling and was the target of faculty/staff cuts two years ago. This year, it was announced in August that the college would stop making contributions to our IRAs. I an really afraid: first for our department and my job and secondly for the college overall...So, here I am a highly educated professional with very specific skills, facing unemployment with little in retirement since I have only worked full-time for 10 years. I have a 20-year old son and college and co-signed post-grad professional loans for my daughter. I never expected, at my age, to be facing these obstacles. The stress is significant, but I don't know what to do except go to work every day and hope for a miracle.
Peggy, Omaha, NE


I just turned 59. I have worked for 42 years of my life. Now I am living in a tent in someone's backyard... I had to sleep in my car for a week or more. I could be staying in an RV, but the tent actually has more space... I have had no income since September and mostly $500 a month income for much of this year, except for June when I received more money from a friend. what I see is that all of our systems are set up to penalize and criminalize the poor. can't pay for registration and insurance for your car? you are a criminal. cannot pay for rent? cannot pay for food? cannot pay for gas? where are you supposed to go? cannot pay for health care? tough luck, go die. I have a BA degree and am a professional. Two years ago when I hurt my wrist I looked into going on disability but found out that I would be lucky to get approved in two years... welfare, food stamps? social security? I do not qualify because why? I am a third generation American and my family is DEAD but because I have no income, but had some money way back in June, and have a car, I do not qualify? the red tape and rigamorale is difficult to deal with... exhausting. they say they need substitute teachers, same red tape, and you have to spend money to get the job... where am I supposed to get the money? churches social service agencies, each one passes the buck, sends you to some place else. food banks expect you to live on tuna, peanut butter and pasta, if you do not have a kitchen, how are you supposed to cook the pasta???
Sue, NYC


My teenage son lives with severe autism, as do 1 in every 150 boys today. The greatest tragedy of the economic meltdown in the richest country in the world is the further erosion and neglect of our government in supporting people who need the most help, those with disabilities who cannot live independently. At a time when diagnoses have surged, ironically over the past 8 years services were cut and now will disappear, leaving aging parents to care for their adult children at home until . . . the inevitable. What happens to those adults with autism when their parents are gone? Thankfully institutions are not the answer anymore, however now there are no new group homes opening, and agencies serving the disabled no longer have funds to operate. When a provider can make more working at Wal-Mart than teaching a young disabled adult a vocational skill that says something about our priorities as a country. Why was there no money 8 years ago when we asked for help, yet billions are suddenly found to support banks, Wall St., the auto companies, construction companies, etc? The money is there - let's reset our prioirities and leave a standard of living to our children better than what can be found in Sudan. This is America after all.
Susan, Harbeson, DE


I used to work for Sony Electronics when they still made television sets here in San Diego (as recent as 2002!). When this business moved to China, I was laid off and tried to establish my own specialty retail business. Shorly thereafter I became a business statistic when the business failed. After a 18 month period of unemplyment, I found at a position in our local school district, making about 50% less than when I was at Sony. Within a year I found a better position at Pfizer, but the big-pharma was already foundering, and was laid-off after less than a year. Since then I have not been able to find suitable employment. Had my wife not been a highly skilled Registered Nurse we would have lost our home long ago and suffered additional financial consequences.


I am now planning to attend a paralegal certificate program at a local university in January, and should be on the hunt for employment in May. I have been unemployed 3 weeks to long to qualify for extended unemployment benefits, so I have received almost no help from the state or Uncle Sam. At 54 years of age none of this is coming easy for me. Aside from the financial issues, the emotional stress has been tremendous. Had it not been for friends and playing sax in a local big band, I probably would be dead by know. I've learned that money is not the most important thing in life! I consider myself well educated (BS Virginia Tech, MBA University of Phoenix), and have a lifetime of operational business experience, so why can't I find suitable employment? When somebody with my education and experience is tossed away by society, I wonder how those less fortunate can make it. We are fast becoming a third world country, it's not the place I grew up in. I fear for the next generation. Best regards,
Drew, San Diego, CA


This is what amazes me about my life in America right now: No heat. No heat last winter.....No heat this winter....And I thought I was alone. But this year, I checked in on the Frugal Living board of a popular mother's website, and what did I see? Women asking each other what to do when you have children at home, and you can't afford to fire up your furnace. And then, a few women on another mother's group I belong to admitted that they had no heat this winter, as well. Some of these women are pregnant, and due to deliver this winter. Most of us have husbands who work; but the downsizings and wage stagnation, and unemployment have taken their toll. So when money ran out, and the heat bill couldn't be paid...well, there never was enough extra to get the heat turned back on. Here's another thing I've learned: Having a college degree no longer serves as a safety net against impoverishment. I look around me, and well-educated friends simply can not find jobs. Naturally, I worry about the struggle.
Faith, East Windsor, NJ


I am 61 years old and bought my first house in 2007. The bank told me that I could afford a home up to $160,000. I had no money for a down payment. "Are you sure I can afford a home for $160,000?"


"Sure, no problem."


When all was said and done, I found a home for $151,000 and the monthly payment was almost $1,300. I am not in foreclosure but I have built up a credit card debt of $7,000. I have made my mortgage payments but I have not been able to keep up with other monthly expenses. I cannot afford to refinance at a lower rate because I do not have the cash for the closing. It will just be a matter of time before I lose my home.


I have a Master's in Library Science, I make a nice salary but I cannot afford my home. Foreclosure is on the horizon and I do not believe I have any options but to lose my home. I feel like I have been robbed these past eight years.


The current bailout does not seem to be making its way to Main Street.
Hjordis, Durham, NC


I am a 42 year old single mother. I've been without a job for a year now. All my savings are dried up at this moment and I don't know how I am going to meet my rent for this month. I've started a vending business about three months ago with the perspective of getting a monthly stream of income, but at this moment i've jet to get all of my routes. I can not afford to shop at the supermarket, me and my daughter are living of the local food pantry. I have to cancel my cable and cook at least once a week to safe on my electric bill. I only pray that our next President is able to fix this and he will need all the help that he can get. It is a relieve to see that the gas prices went down. I try to keep a positive outlook on the situation, through my faith in God. I pray for our new President and helps to know that through him we have hope for the future. I hope my story will help someone to see that eventough we in this situation all hope is not lost. We all have to have faith that it will get better, because of the faith that we have as americans.
Linda, Marietta


My story started with a layoff (11 of 25 employees) from a small biotech company outside of Philadelphia in June 2007. It took me 5 months to find a permanent position with a salary in alignment with my experience. In the 5 months it took me to find this job, I lost everything.


I am a divorced mother of three. When I divorced, I was doing well financially (I do not receive alimony) and purchased a townhouse for myself and children. When I lost my job, the savings were gone instantly as Unemployment Benefits did not cover much. As the mortgage got 2 months and then 3 months behind, I had no idea what we would do. I could not find a way to stay afloat. In desperation, I sent my younger children to live with their father. I did not want them to go though the horrifying process of 'mom falling apart at the seams' because we were about to have nowhere to live. My oldest child went to live with family friends (he was 16 at the time).


The economic meltdown was causing a complete meltdown of me and my family. The mental stress and anxiety became too much for me I and made two attempts on my life. Two days before Christmas Dec 2007, I had to be out of my house for good. My van was repossessed as well. I was no longer allowed to see my younger children due to my suicide attempts. My depression was all consuming. I did not eat or sleep well for months. I filed for bankruptcy and hoped the New Year would offer some ray of hope.


Today, 02Dec2008, I am employed. I am renting a place with my oldest son. My two little ones still live with Dad. He has not allowed them to return to live with me and I do not have the finances to fight him. I miss them every moment. Although money is extremely tight (I am starting a second job this week), we are making it.
Kimberly, Conyngham

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- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 229 fans permalink
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Look we can fix this stuff now. Like all the foreclosures, can be stopped, probably by executive order.

All the predatory terms in the loans can be outlawed, rendered unenforceable.

Regarding home affordability, other countries have home loans up to 99 years and they kids can inherit the loan along with the house. There are very few houses that would not be affordable with a 99 year loan.

Banks make money for practically ever and people stay in their houses.

We just have to decide it is a priority and not take excuses from our government. Tie the changes to the bail out money, then they'll happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 12/05/2008
- whoknew--- I'm a Fan of whoknew--- 23 fans permalink

I was thinking about this whole situation regarding the economy being in the ditch and I believe our government needs to invest in people not corporations who outsource their work and ask for a helping hand when they get into trouble.

Investing in people and re-educating them into jobs that have a future would be the most effective course for our nation as a whole.

It could make the difference between the US evolving into a second rate country that has nothing to offer or a productive educated one with a future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 AM on 12/05/2008
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 229 fans permalink
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WhoKnew-- You are right. We need to invest in our people to compete in this new world. To put it into perspective, check this out:

Did You Know 2.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMcfrLYDm2U

Very strong case for educating to compete.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 AM on 12/05/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
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My neighbor was even fooled by a Predatory Loan. There was a little tag in the fine print that allows them to by pass the interest rate tag to the Fed Rate of the varible rate loan and raise the Interest Rate anytime they wanted too.

She is facing paying 11.6 % interest now on her home !

Isn't it nice that the Bush Adminstration went to court to allow these loans and prevent Consumer Protection Laws from being enforced by the State !!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 AM on 12/05/2008
- barriosbabe I'm a Fan of barriosbabe 243 fans permalink
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The only job I was ever fired from (for telling the truth no less) was working during 9/11 at countrywide in their subprime fraud detection department. The hidden predatory practices were unreal! Cut people some slack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 12/05/2008
- robin50 I'm a Fan of robin50 4 fans permalink

I know this is not a popular opinion but I believe the economy down turn is a good thing. We have a population who bought every thing they seen and hadn't a clue to tell themself or their juvinelle deliquient kids no. This lifestyle was not substainable. When you are spending 110% of your income something has to give. Just say no to the newest pink cell phone or Ipod sooner rather than later.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 AM on 12/05/2008
- whoknew--- I'm a Fan of whoknew--- 23 fans permalink

You're right about the greed factor but the consequences regarding this "economy down turn" could be catastrophic.

People in the Great Depression died from starvation. If you have ever read the "Grapes of Wrath" (John Steinbeck) it would give you a really good idea of how desperate people were at that time.

I hope it doesn't come to that because we have so many more people and mouths to feed. It will be worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 12/05/2008
- Colmore I'm a Fan of Colmore 45 fans permalink

George Bush told a lecturer at Yale that "People are poor because they are lazy", after discussing "Grapes of Wrath". Wonder how far he would have gotten in life without Daddy's name??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 12/05/2008
- LHoney I'm a Fan of LHoney 44 fans permalink
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Yes, and don't forget everyone is armed now...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 12/05/2008
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I agree with you to a point. The concern is not for those who have to give up only luxuries -- but those above & others who've had the rug pulled from under their feet and now have no savings, no home, no food.
We have absolutely no problem living within our means, yet we are still on food stamps. I know folks who cannot qualify due to being JUST above the wage cutoff. Yet their expenses continue to soar... and the debts they have incurred will follow them for the rest of their lives. It's terrible.
So ... instead of saying 'no' to the 'newest' cell phone, say no to any cell phone! Say no to cable television, new cars, large homes, vacations, everything that is not necessary for a safe & satisfactory lifestyle. We need to return, as one blogger said, to being citizens, instead of consumers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 12/05/2008

I agree with you. Personal finance education is sadly lacking in this country. This lack of knowledge combined with the consumerist culture created the perfect storm. Hopefully teaching this subject in our schools could be one positive outcome from this disaster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 12/05/2008

Actually the problem is NOT regular people overspending on large screen TV's. The problem is the Wall St Speculators over-speculating on garbage CDO's with money they don't have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 12/05/2008
- MJinCanada I'm a Fan of MJinCanada 123 fans permalink

This is a rather brutal article but I think there's some valuable eye openers and a few strategies that might help. It's a comparison of the economic collapse in Russia with the anticipated US depression.

http://www.energybulletin.net/node/23259

You know, part of the problem is that Republicans/conservatives always think that a country is nothing more than its GDP and military and financial influence. They forget about people, culture and quality of life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 12/05/2008
- senorlou I'm a Fan of senorlou 129 fans permalink

That was an amazing article. I think this guy is pretty much right on. I always thought we had one more bullet left, Obama, but he's only human. It's true, our economy was a house of cards and now it's collapsing. We are in horrible shape in so many ways to make it through, but I'm hoping for the best. Thank you so much for posting this. Eye opener for sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 12/05/2008
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Very well said, MJinCanada!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 12/05/2008

That is true. The problem is, identifying conservatives .... if you see my point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 AM on 12/05/2008

Here, Here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 12/05/2008
- kymlosang I'm a Fan of kymlosang 54 fans permalink
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after reading many of these stories, i am sickened by the ways of our nation. we have a country we have lost to corporations that have raped us and picked our bones dry. the bank bailout did absolutely nothing to get the economy back on track. paulson deserves to go to jail along with half of the wall street baking industry. they can clearly see what is happening to this country and the botttom line is that they dont care. if they did, they would not have taken all the bonuses and high salaries while thousands cant even eat. the karma they have coming is immense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 12/05/2008
- senorlou I'm a Fan of senorlou 129 fans permalink

Sad stuff, this depression - let's call it what it is. The pundits are saying unemployment will go up as high as 7.6% which is accurate if you use the bogus numbers they do. It'll probably be much worse. Many of us, myself included, lived beyond our means for years and years - credit cards, loans that take lifetimes to repay, etc. Well, party's over and now we're all going to suffer some. Best we can do is stick together and not bash our friends and family who lose jobs, homes, families, and careers. I've seen people threatened to be tossed out of their family home by loved ones who can't understand why they can't "get up off their butts and get a job." They continue this kind of cruelty, of course, until they too are laid off. This is a very trying time for most of us. Let's all just be as kind and understanding as we can, and try not to do anything crazy if we find ourselves suddenly becoming poor and desperate. Easier said than done, I know. Good luck, folks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 12/05/2008

There are people who fell on the hard times for the reasons beyond their control. My heart goes out to them. But vast majority are in trouble because they spend too much. I refuse to feel sorry for people who drove Mercedes, bought their kids designer clothes and took out no money down mortgages while my family drove old cars, shopped at H&M and bought a smaller house.

Before you all pile in on me, let me tell you that I know what it means to be poor and hungry. We came to this country (legally) with $300 for 5 people. For first 2 years all furniture in our house was from the garbage dumps. My mom’s first job was to wash toilets and we spent $55 a month on food for 5…

Now I make a good living and I can afford to “share” with others. But not via higher taxes. Why? Because I do not trust ANY government to spend my money wisely. I am happy to help people in need, but I want to know that they truly needs it and will use money properly. That is why help should come on local level and not from some bureaucrat in Washington, who needs to find poor people wo keep his job.

As to everyone who are in the hard spot for no fault of their own – God Bless and if you in Tri-State area and I can help – let me know…

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 AM on 12/05/2008
- senorlou I'm a Fan of senorlou 129 fans permalink

Let me give you a well deserved but belated welcome to the USA. The reason why our nation is (was) so great was mainly because of a crazy distribution of wealth scheme called taxation. You like things like roads, schools, hospitals (ok, maybe these aren't so great anymore), fire departments you don't have to pay cash to save your burning house, etc, thank the IRS. Smae for if you like Police Officers who don't steal your wallet, your car, threaten to harm your wife, and shake you down because that $400 a month salary doesn't cut it. That's why our kids don't (usually) go hungry (this is changing, I know) and why they don't spend their days in garbage dumps picking through scraps of human filth (also changing, I've seen it lately). I'm guessing you came from a country with high poverty - and most likely low taxation - unless you're from the former USSR or something, which would explain your POV. Problem we face now is, somebody emptied the cookie jar (GOP) and we've been flim-flammed into putting our retirement into 401Ks and IRAs that are now worthless. Look at any decent country, there are taxes to be paid. You have some good points (living beyond our means), but the USA pays taxes and that's why we are (were) such a great place to live in. Times change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 12/05/2008

i am from former USSR...

I am not against taxes. Goverment should provide infrastrasture and basic services. I have no issue with that. Moreover, as a person who makes a decent living I expect and do pay more for those services than people with less money. I do have a problem when goverment takes my money and gives it to another person. Goverement should not be in welfare bussines. It is job for family and local organisation. I have lived in one welfare state before, where everyone was equally poor. No desire to see US terning into another...

As for 401K's - lets be honest - if you invested every month over the last 10 years, your investments now are down on average 15% (including dividends), if you invested over the last 20years you are up about 25% (including dividends). while it is not great it is not bad. People focus on market being down 50% this year, forgeting that it was up 100% in the prior 5 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 12/05/2008
- kymlosang I'm a Fan of kymlosang 54 fans permalink
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it is prudent not to judge one another in these tough times. after reading this blog it seems most of the people cant find jobs which has nothing to do with buying things you cant afford. but you are right in the fact that we should all help one another. it seems the number of those who need help is astounding. this is such a frightening situation, and if everyone helps even a little like you have so kindly offered to do, it can go a very long way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 12/05/2008
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 229 fans permalink
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There are things that governments do most efficiently. Would you want a privatized fire department to ask you for a $50,000 check before the save your family and stop your house burning down?

Many people here a victims of risks that we all face. Any one of us could have a car accident or an illness that could cause us to lose our jobs, which leads to loss of health insurance, which leads to loss of every blessed other thing you worked for all your life.

The best way to handle risks like this is to spread them across the entire population and remove profit from the equation. The way we do with the fire department.

You don't say, well we shouldn't have a fire department because my house is not burning down. We shouldn't have a police department because no one is breaking into my house.

We should share spread the burden of risks among us, because, even if we have no compassion, it is in our own self interest.

Ever heard of karma?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 12/05/2008

Artemis:

There are a lot of communities which have volunteer fire department. They decided that do not want to pay people and rather rely on themselves for help. There are a lot of risks. However, we are not asking the government to insure our car or house. People buy our own insurance. I bought disability insurance for myself. This way if I am ever too sick to work my family is taken care of. It is expensive, but I chose that insurance over buying myself brand name clothes. Other people spend their money on other things. Why should I bail them out now? I do not mind helping people, but people who deserve to be helped. And since it is my money, I want to be one determining who deserves help

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 12/05/2008
- JenMI I'm a Fan of JenMI 15 fans permalink

You lost me with your sad "woe is me and I did it right story" in the first paragraph when you wrote:
"I refuse to feel sorry for people who drove Mercedes, bought their kids designer clothes and took out no money down mortgages while my family drove old cars, shopped at H&M and bought a smaller house."
I don't know where the bubble is you live in but many who are struggling today are not the Mercedes, designer clothes crowd. You are an insult .. and "ProudNeoCon" says it all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 AM on 12/05/2008

As I said before there are people whose problems are trully beyond their control and those deserve help. In my community I am providing means to help them (Do you?). However those are in minority. People who got into no-down no-job no-nothing mortgages are not people whose problems are beyond their control. They have spend more than they could afford betting that real estate market will go up. They lost thier bet. Why should they be bailed out?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 12/05/2008

Arianna, I hope you send these stories to President Obama and especially to the republicans in the senate who have no heart. Let them know we want them to cooperate. The democratics won a manadate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 12/05/2008
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I'm sorry, Arianna, but I cannot stop crying as I read these stories

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 12/05/2008
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 25 fans permalink

Another point....

I heard Bill Gates ( MIcrosoft) saying what he would tell P.E. Obama to do according to
get the U.S. back on track....

However, I didn't hear him mention how many tech workers he IMPORTS to work at Microsoft.
That is just as bad as other Industries OUTSOURCING JOBS.

I heard him a few weeks ago whining to Congress to import more than the (40,000) workers that
are allowed to come here for jobs.
He complained that he didn't get enough workers from that group.

In the meantime, how many computer workers are there in America who can't get a job.
Microsoft imports workers so he doesn't have to pay what he should for tech workers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 12/05/2008
- ccpostman I'm a Fan of ccpostman 22 fans permalink
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Your 100% right.

The 40,000 are the employees that Gates most likely wants on VISAs at Mircostiff. These people are to afraid to ask for a raise and will work more than 40hrs a week. Perfect slaves with MAs and PhDs.

Obama needs to cut back on the number of VISAs granted, since the layoffs will only get worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 12/05/2008

Gates also is giving millions of dollars (his own money) to try and educate children in maths and sciences. He has been sounding the alarm for years that our kids are falling way beyond in the skills his companies needs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 12/05/2008
- emily00011 I'm a Fan of emily00011 35 fans permalink

My partner has been considering opening a division in the US, but he can't get a visa to work in the US even as a company owner.. who would bring good jobs for Americans. He wouldn't be able to bring over current employees, who are already trained, to help get it started either. It's a big turnoff for him. Of course, he can come whenever he wants through me, a US citizen, but he finds it a bit appalling to have that be his only option, and it doesn't solve the trained employee problem.

Just saying the problem isn't black and white, so be careful before you go spouting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 AM on 12/05/2008
- SammyD I'm a Fan of SammyD 11 fans permalink

I'm not certain Bill Gates has the answers. Although he built one of the most sucessful companies in the world, he has not built a company with endurance. He built for a short term horizon while America needs leadership from long term visionaries. We need leaders who can build companies that change with the times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 12/05/2008
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 25 fans permalink

Haven't heard any comments from anybody who has been
collecting welfare benefits for years.

They get food stamps, rent assistance, heat assistance, free breakfast and lunch for their school children, free college if they are single mothers, and about $3600.00 back at tax time because
they are low income if they have worked for 20 hrs in a week.

Just goes to show you, sometimes we are on the wrong side of the fence.
I feel sorry for the people who have struggled to save for retirement (401K - etc)
and have lost most of their savings.

WHERE IS THEIR BAIL-OUT .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 12/05/2008
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 229 fans permalink
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No one has mentioned this because no one lives in the same fantasy world you do where such things happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 12/05/2008
- senorlou I'm a Fan of senorlou 129 fans permalink

You have got to be kidding me. You think living on welfare and food stamps is fun? I am a bachelor and work with the children of the poor, some of who only get to eat because of those food stamps. You think these people are eating caviar and filet mignon? Please. Let me tell you about the poor. They are under constant stress, especially the ones on food stamps, etc. They get something like $600 a month to spend - this is in Los Angeles. That'll go in five minutes around here. The kids eat lousy food (I eat it too) at the school for free (I pay $2.50 a lunch). It's bread, cheese, cheap meat, and overcooked veggies most days, plus some sugar. If you have kids, would you want them living in a gang-infested, roach motel where people are desperate and demoralized? Living on welfare sucks, at least it does here in Los Angeles. I've never met anyone who's been on welfare who was happy about it. Most get off it as soon as they get a decent job. Nobody in their right mind wants to live like that, believe me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 12/05/2008

I have seen a lot of people on welfare living in goverment subsidized appartments and working cash jobs. I have seen people paying with foodstamps for $15/pound stakes. I have seen people in furs paying with food stamps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 12/05/2008
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Thank you! Anyone who has not been there does NOT know what they are talking about. The vast majority of those on welfare are NOT there because they WANT to be, but because it's that or give up your kids or let them starve. And just because some know-it-all thinks all poor kids SHOULD starve or just go away, doesn't mean those poor kids aren't just as GOOD or even BETTER than their OWN. Maybe if they would use the energy they waste checking over the shoulders of food stamp users lest they buy an unapproved or luxury item would use it instead to push for more, better, and more reliable public transportation instead of whizzing by the invisible walkers, more of those annoying food stamp users would be able to get jobs. That is those who aren't spouting the "fair, free, trade agreements" anyway. I was on welfare in the 80s and I still managed to raise 2 hard working, intelligent, honest, tax paying citizens who are valued at their jobs and raising THEIR children to be the same, my son raising 2 girls on his OWN has NEVER had to ask for help from anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 12/06/2008

The US has the highest threshold ( == the lowest benefits) for poor and disadvantaged of any country in the developed, industrialized world. If you think that social welfare hurts a country, you need to travel -- just once. Go on a trip to one of those evil places like Sweden or France and see if you think the country is bad off. You can bet if our people get food stamps, rent assistance, free breakfast, etc., they are in a sorry state and you would not trade with them for anything. Don't succumb to the propaganda of the past 30-40 years that welfare is sucking on our economy. Our social support (i.e. Welfare) comprises a miniscule fraction of defense, debt, and other major budgetary expenses, and yet Republicans and their Corporate backers have spent 40 years trying to convince the country that people in need are the villains.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 12/05/2008
- Caliwoman I'm a Fan of Caliwoman 9 fans permalink

We have a half built house, live in a small trailer on our lot, we thought we'd be in for a few months. It's been two years. No build loans in spite of good credit to finish the build. We thought we were being responsible by using our own money for the build, we got investments out before the crash which was lucky, but now no bank loans to finish. I remember seeing half built projects all over Mexico and Central America. Now I guess we have a third world economy too. Contractors stop all the time asking for work. It is very sad.
My son warmed my heart a few nights ago by marching out back and hanging Christmas lights on the framing. Making lemonade from lemons. I was very proud of him. My husband is underemployed, I am glad I have my job yet, we'klll see for how long. Hang in there everyone. Scarey times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 12/05/2008
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 229 fans permalink
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I saw Ariana Huffington on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart today. She said that we're unemployed, so we have time [to blog] but I was thinking "You know, she's right. We also have time to change our country!"

Other countries have national health care and so can we. Other countries take care of their citizens in need and so can we. We can solve these problems together with compassion, good ideas and a lot of hard work.

As some have mentioned here all the hardships our ancestors endured proves we're made of sturdy stuff.

But, also, as Americans, we rebelled against tyranny many times, some not so very long ago. And it is time to do it again and remake this country in the image of our constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 12/05/2008
- senorlou I'm a Fan of senorlou 129 fans permalink

Seeing that silver lining. Good positive attitude. Thanks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 12/05/2008
- LHoney I'm a Fan of LHoney 44 fans permalink
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Too bad we didn't figure this out before GWB emptied the coffers into his own pockets and has left us how many trillions in debt?? We were once able to create this kind of culture where we take care of our own, but now the very few have all the money and good luck getting any of it back!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 12/05/2008

One thing that this has shown is that people that have college degrees and are middle class finally are understanding what its like for people who don't have college degrees and are blue collar workers. People that are lower middle class and working poor have been struggling for many years. My sister is a doctor and she say that people choice to go or not to go to college. I said not everyone is smart enough to go to college. It is unfair to judge people that way. I learned a long time ago never to judge anyone because you could be in that persons shoes some day. Am 60 yrs old and I have medical problems. My husband retired from the military and is now working for a dept store. He also got a degree from college while on active duty. We live in a rural area where he could find work in his field with his age also. Now he is starting to have medical problems. Our home is very small we just had a new roof put on it thanks to my in-laws that left us some money and the house is paid off but needs alot of work. That is where we are living. Its always cold but we filled the tank at the beginning and it was over $1,000.00. Thank god the prices are falling for gas that will help lower the cost. We help our son and his child.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 12/05/2008
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 229 fans permalink
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They know about maintaining the economy they want. The massive transfer of wealth from the people to the few at the top. They make out like bandits because they are bandits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 12/05/2008
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