Employers Shedding Jobs As Recession Deepens

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JEANNINE AVERSA | December 5, 2008 06:27 PM EST | AP

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Vic Toribio of Alameda, Calif., reads a job listing at the One-Stop Career Center Friday, Dec. 5, 2008, in Oakland, Calif. Skittish employers slashed 533,000 jobs in November, the most in 34 years, catapulting the unemployment rate to 6.7 percent, dramatic proof the country is careening deeper into recession. (AP Photo/Ben Margot)

WASHINGTON — An alarming half-million American jobs vanished virtually in a flash last month, the worst mass layoffs in over a third of a century, as economic carnage spread ever faster and the nation hurtled toward what could be the hardest hard times since the Great Depression.

Underscoring Friday's dismaying signs of a rapidly deteriorating economy, General Motors announced yet more job cuts, and a record number of homeowners were reported behind on mortgage payments or in foreclosure.

Somehow Wall Street found a silver lining, betting that so much bad news would force fresh government action to revive the foundering economy. The Dow Jones industrial rose 259 points.

Staring at 533,000 lost jobs, economists were anything but hopeful. Since the start of the recession last December, the economy has shed 1.9 million jobs, and the number of unemployed people has increased by 2.7 million _ to 10.3 million now out of work.

Some analysts predict 3 million more jobs will be lost between now and the spring of 2010 _ and that the once-humming U.S. economy could stagger backward at a shocking 6 percent rate for the current three-month quarter.

"The economy is in a free fall," said Richard Yamarone of Argus Research. "It is as if someone flicked off the switch on hiring."

"It's a mess," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Economy.com. "Businesses, battening down the hatches, are concerned about their survival and are cutting workers."

President-elect Barack Obama said the crisis "is likely to get worse before it gets better," and no one was going to argue that point. Economists predicted the unemployment rate, which rose to a 15-year high of 6.7 percent in November, could soar as high as 10 percent before skittish employers begin hiring again.

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The jobless rate would have bolted to 7 percent for the month if not for the exodus of 422,000 people from the work force for any number of reasons _ going back to school, retiring or simply abandoning job searches out of sheer frustration. When people stop looking, they're no longer counted in the unemployment rate.

The rate was at 4.7 percent just one year ago, 6.5 percent in October.

Employment shrank in virtually every part of the economy _ factories, construction companies, financial firms, accounting and bookkeeping, architectural and engineering firms, hotels and motels, food services, retailers, temporary help, transportation, publishing, janitorial and building maintenance, and even waste management. The few fields spared included education, health care and government.

The United States _ already in recession for a year, may not be out of it until the spring of 2010 _ making for the longest downturn since the Great Depression of the 1930s, economists are now saying. Recessions in the mid-1970s and early 1980s last 16 months.

Unemployment peaked at 10.8 percent in 1982, terrible but still a far cry from the Depression, when roughly one in four Americans were out of work.

That said, more pain is certainly in store. Fresh evidence:

_ A record one in 10 American homeowners with a mortgage was either at least a month behind on payments or in foreclosure at the end of September, the Mortgage Bankers Association reported.

_ General Motors, already pleading with Congress for billions of dollars to survive the month, said it would lay off an additional 2,000 workers as it cuts shifts at three car factories starting in February due to slowing demand for GM cars.

President George W. Bush, who used the word "recession" for the first time to describe the economy's state, pledged Friday to explore more efforts to ease housing, credit and financial stresses.

"There is still more work to do," Bush said. "My administration is committed to ensuring that our economy succeeds."

President-elect Obama said the dismal job news underscored the need for forceful action, even as he warned that the pain could not be quickly relieved.

"There are no quick or easy fixes to this crisis ... and it's likely to get worse before it gets better," Obama said. "At the same time, this ... provides us with an opportunity to transform our economy to improve the lives of ordinary people by rebuilding roads and modernizing schools for our children, investing in clean energy solutions to break our dependence on imported oil, and making an early down payment on the long-term reforms that will grow and strengthen our economy for all Americans for years to come."

On a personal level, right before Thanksgiving, Mark Pierce, 51, who was executive pastor at a church in Mansfield, Ohio, was given a choice: get laid off or take a lesser job with a roughly 40 percent pay cut. His last day of work was Tuesday.

"Anyone in that situation looks at it very personally," he said. "You say, 'Is this a cut across the board, or it just me?'"

It's not just him.

Employers are slashing costs as they cope with sagging sales in the U.S. and in other countries, which are struggling with their own economic troubles.

In recent days, AT&T Inc., DuPont, JPMorgan Chase & Co., as well as jet engine maker Pratt & Whitney, a subsidiary of United Technologies Corp., and mining company Freeport-McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc. all have announced layoffs.

Tom Solso, chief executive of Columbus, Ind.-based manufacturer Cummins Inc., said Friday the company planned to cut 500 jobs, or about 3.5 percent of its work force despite other cost-cutting moves such as temporarily shutting down plants, shortening work weeks and extending holiday shutdowns.

Fighting for survival, the chiefs of Chrysler LLC, General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co. returned to Capitol Hill Friday to again ask lawmakers for as much as $34 billion in emergency aid.

Workers with jobs did see modest wage gains in November. Average hourly earnings rose to $18.30, a 0.4 percent increase from the previous month. Over the year, wages have grown 3.7 percent, but paychecks haven't stretched that far because of high prices for energy, food and other items.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is now expected ratchet down a key interest rate _ near a historic low of 1 percent _ by at least a half-percentage point on Dec. 16 in a bid to breathe life into the moribund economy. Bernanke is exploring other economic revival options and wants the government to step up efforts to curb home foreclosures.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, whose department oversees the $700 billion financial bailout program, also is weighing new initiatives such as tapping the second half of that rescue money to ease the economic crisis.

Obama, who takes office on Jan. 20, has called for a massive economic recovery bill to generate 2.5 million jobs over his first two years in office. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has vowed to have a package ready on Inauguration Day for Obama's signature.

The measure, which could total $500 billion, would bankroll big public works projects to create jobs, provide aid to states to help with Medicaid costs, and provide money toward renewable energy development.

For now that's cold comfort to Gary Cope, 33, who lost his communications job this week at Roanoke, Va.-based high-tech research and development company Luna Innovations Inc.

Cope was called into a meeting first thing Thursday morning. The message: He was being laid off, for financial reasons, effective immediately.

He left with a box of his belongings and about two months' severance. As Cope walked out the door, all he could think was, "I have a 3-year-old son and I'm a single dad."

"I came home and did my initial pity party, then I got myself together, talked to my family and went right to work" rewriting his resume and sending it out, Cope said.

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AP writers Christopher S. Rugaber, Ellen Simon and Chris Leonard contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — An alarming half-million American jobs vanished virtually in a flash last month, the worst mass layoffs in over a third of a century, as economic carnage spread ever faster and the ...
WASHINGTON — An alarming half-million American jobs vanished virtually in a flash last month, the worst mass layoffs in over a third of a century, as economic carnage spread ever faster and the ...
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- solid I'm a Fan of solid 24 fans permalink

Thank you Junior!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 12/05/2008

The real unemployment rate according to http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data is 16%, even the full government BS statistics, oops I mean BLS statistics show unemployment at 12%. Let's start demanding real figures even from HufPo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 12/05/2008
- babaann I'm a Fan of babaann 6 fans permalink

I've been curious about how the unemployment rates compare with 1933-and the fact that most of the workforce was men-so women were probably not included in the statistics. Anybody know more about this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 12/05/2008

Not sure about that babaan, but that would be an interesting piece of history to uncover. I think at the height of the depression, unemployment reached almost 25% in 1933.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 12/05/2008

Thanks for showing this, I just did on another post. Unemployment is a lie, its ALWAYS been much higher just like inflation. Take a look at that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 12/05/2008
- Malamati I'm a Fan of Malamati 10 fans permalink
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But we don't need jobs. We don't need money. Heck, we don't even need food. We're going to get by on nothing but hope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 12/05/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 428 fans permalink
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Your suggestion is that ... somehow... Obama is responsible for this, even though he hasn't even been sworn in yet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 12/05/2008
- Malamati I'm a Fan of Malamati 10 fans permalink
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No, my CONTENTION is that the two major political parties are responsible for this and that until we wise up and quit making the same s.t.u.p.i.d mistake (voting for them) nothing will ever really change. Corporate Republicans, corporate Democrats, there's not a whole lot of difference between one and the other. Both will do all they can to perpetuate the economic paradigms that have brought us to this state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 12/05/2008
- PengieP I'm a Fan of PengieP 7 fans permalink
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Of course Malamati and the other coolaid drinkers claim Obama is at fault. After all it's common knowledge that the Republican party, its apologists and its sycophants are fueled primarily by lies and then by dirty money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 12/05/2008
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 110 fans permalink
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What an !diotic statement.

Tell me, what was Johnny Mac and SuperSarah going to do to fix it, hmmm?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 12/05/2008
- Malamati I'm a Fan of Malamati 10 fans permalink
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Ah yes, "with us or against us" mentality. You assume that because I am not star-struck by Obama that I must be a McCain/Palin supporter. How sad that you are destined to face a complex, complicated world, a world fraught with subtlety, intricacy, and nuance, with such a simple mind.

But to answer your question, neither Johnny Mac nor Obama will do anything to REALLY fix this, which is why I didn't vote for either one. Both were just slightly different versions of the same old s**t.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 12/05/2008
- emily00011 I'm a Fan of emily00011 35 fans permalink

It's a heck of a lot more than what we've been getting by on, which is a government that feeds the people lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 12/05/2008
- drkazmd65 I'm a Fan of drkazmd65 55 fans permalink
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Where is "Little Orphan Annie" when you need her?

"The sun will come out tomrorrow,... bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow,.... there'll be sun,...."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 12/05/2008

I'm john mccain and i approve this message.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 12/05/2008

Welcome to the Bush "service" economy. Remember Bush getting on TV and telling us what a wonderful thing outsourcing was?? Remember Bush telling us about how outsourcing will ensure that we get cheaper goods?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 12/05/2008
- Overd0g I'm a Fan of Overd0g 13 fans permalink

He was right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 12/05/2008

Yea, cheaper goods that are now collecting dust on the selves while people scamble to provide food and shelter for their familes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 12/05/2008

So, conversely, when where the best layoffs. Just wondering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 12/05/2008
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 110 fans permalink
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Good point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 12/05/2008
- ReHoover51 I'm a Fan of ReHoover51 11 fans permalink
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Revisionist History:
See what the Clintons did to our economy.
Alan Greenspan stated last night that it takes about 8.5 years for an economy melt-down, so this couldnt possibly be due to the bush admin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 12/05/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 428 fans permalink
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Odd. Every respected economist uses 2.5 years as the term for policy effect. I can't recall who was in charge in mid 2006. Hmmm....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 12/05/2008
- Malamati I'm a Fan of Malamati 10 fans permalink
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The "two-party" system was in charge. As long as they're pulling the strings nothing will change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 12/05/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 271 fans permalink

Greenspan is a t00l. He's part of the problem. He even admitted it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 12/05/2008
- ReHoover51 I'm a Fan of ReHoover51 11 fans permalink
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greenspan told congress that he was shocked and had no idea!!
he made billions with his clout and then got out

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 12/05/2008
- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 286 fans permalink
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And bush has been president for the last 8.

So blame it on Clinton's last 6 months.

You had no expectations whatsoever that bush in his 8 years should have done a thing but push for more and more deregulation for his cronies. If Clinton got the ball rolling on this, shouldn't bush have had the responsibility to see it coming and done something?

Nice try, desperado.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 12/05/2008
- ReHoover51 I'm a Fan of ReHoover51 11 fans permalink
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i was being facetious ... of course it is on bush!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 12/05/2008
- dearlizzie I'm a Fan of dearlizzie 7 fans permalink
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Right! We are looking at the long range effects of Reagan's Republican supply-side economics that even the Democrats bought into to some extent. Now we know that Bush I was right, its voodoo economics and we should NEVER listen to Republicans again.

Which party is better at creating prospertiy?

Well, the Dems and Repubs have each led 40 years out of the last 80. If one had invested $10,000 80 years ago and could have specified that they only wanted their money invested under one party's administrations, then here are the results: Under 40 years of Republicans, your investment would now total: $11,000. If we exclude Herbert Hoover, the Republican pres who brought us the Great Depression, then you'd have approximately $51,000.

However, if you had chosen to invest strictly under Democratic administrations, you'd have approximately $300,000 today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 12/05/2008
- solid I'm a Fan of solid 24 fans permalink

That's very interesting. Do you have a link to your calculations?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 12/05/2008
- biwee I'm a Fan of biwee 13 fans permalink

Bush will be the LAST Republican in the White House for decades.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 12/05/2008
- Malamati I'm a Fan of Malamati 10 fans permalink
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One major party down, one to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 12/05/2008
- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 286 fans permalink
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Whatever party you support has nothing to offer.

They just hop in and whine and point fingers during a crisis before going back into the woodwork until the next election.

Chump.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 12/05/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 428 fans permalink
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I agree completely. Not only have they been absolutely catastrophic in ecomic policy, they continue push uberevangelicals who want to "follow the will of God" as part of their platform. Subsequently, Republicans apparently believe that "God wanted this country broke".

Idi ots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 12/05/2008
- EinChicago I'm a Fan of EinChicago 36 fans permalink

Doubtful, unfortunately. It depends on the next 18 months. If Obama cannot turn the economy around within less than 18 months, he will be punished the way Carter was and we may see another 8-12 year GOP stint. Sad but true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 12/05/2008
- solid I'm a Fan of solid 24 fans permalink

If that's the case the GOP will finish us off for good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 12/05/2008
- nick53 I'm a Fan of nick53 2 fans permalink

and the worst bit is, more companies are going to go bust before thigns get well.. and every bankrupcy hits other businesses hard. SO... tough times ahead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 12/05/2008
- FatherWolf I'm a Fan of FatherWolf 21 fans permalink

But the fundamentals are sound! American workers are great! Small towns have values!

Imagine where we'd be headed if McCain/Palin had somehow managed to win the election.

The Republicans are leaving us with a major economic disaster that just keeps getting worse and worse. Good thing they have only 50-some days left to fail us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 12/05/2008
- comacoma I'm a Fan of comacoma 15 fans permalink

And we can rest assured there will be another republican initiated failure of something on every one of those 50 days... republicans are the enemy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 12/05/2008
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"Imagine where we'd be headed if McCain/Palin had somehow managed to win the election."

McCain would be posting ads in the nation's newspapers for cabinet positions.

(don't ask me why I wrote that - it just came out that way!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 12/05/2008
- mcantwell I'm a Fan of mcantwell 526 fans permalink
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boogiewoman: Quote: "but nobody cared because it was blue collar workers."

Good post. Those same people who don't care may very well lose their jobs one day too, maybe sooner then they think. You lose your job, you lose your home, you lose your health insurance....and the list goes on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 12/05/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 187 fans permalink
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2009 is going to be HELL!
I don't know a single employee or retired person who isn't scared to death
about losing most everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 12/05/2008

The worst thing companies can do in an economic downturn, in an economy based primarily on consumer confidence, is to eliminate jobs. Yet it is very funny how Wall Street Analyst would place buy recommendation on companies who would announce massive layoffs. That is the Reagan revolution at its best.

Right Wing Nutz wanted to put Reagan on the 10 dollar bill, I think a better place would be to put old Ronnie on a Credit Card.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 12/05/2008
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Completely agree! So they slash jobs to keep profits up? Now you have more people who cannot afford your product. Way to go! What if they were to just try to not go in the red or go under, but then also try to KEEP as many jobs as possible?

Laid off: July 18, 2008
Job interviews since then: 1
Unemployment monthly benefits in FL: $167 shy of my rent

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 12/05/2008
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best of luck with that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 12/05/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 428 fans permalink
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Agreed to some extent, but you have to recall that the reason employers are downsizing is because they can't meet payroll. The reason they can't meet payroll is because they can't obtain credit. They can't obtain credit because... well, we all know how that happened.

You can't ask that employers keep on their full employ. They simply don't have the cashflow to do so. Doing the "right thing" by holding their employees ultimately means the same eventuality.

This ain't gonna be pretty. Unemployment rates will very likely hit 10% by the end of next year. Hold onto your hats, people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 12/05/2008
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 110 fans permalink
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Hey there!

They are already close to that here - 9.3%. Big 3 go down - more like 15%.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 12/05/2008

AT&T, Viacom and NBC can meet its payroll, yet they announced layoffs in the 15,000 range. That is 15k less consumers in a consumer driven economy. They are hurting themselves with this foolishness. 1 million dollars less in CEO pay is 50k per/yr for 200 employees.

Let's use some common sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 12/05/2008
- marinade I'm a Fan of marinade 48 fans permalink

Whatever they say their reason is for job cuts, the true reason is that they can't afford to pay the employees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 12/05/2008
- babaann I'm a Fan of babaann 6 fans permalink

Employers really don't need alot of employees standing around with nothing to do. If the customers aren't buying then the employers don't need any "help".
All the credit in the world will not make people buy goods, when they can't buy food and other necessities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 12/05/2008
- dearlizzie I'm a Fan of dearlizzie 7 fans permalink
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Perfect!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 12/05/2008

Welcome to our world. This has been going on here since 2005 in Michigan, but nobody cared because it was blue collar workers. Unemployment is 10%. Wal-Mart and Temp Services are the biggest employers in the United States. Making $10.00 hour is the norm now. Welcome to working 3 jobs just to pay the bills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 12/05/2008
- NoToGOP08 I'm a Fan of NoToGOP08 8 fans permalink

my brother from Detroit finally gave up after 15 years and moved to Texas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 12/05/2008
- clsmithj I'm a Fan of clsmithj 10 fans permalink
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This news is sickening, to think 2009 would be so much like 1987

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 12/05/2008
- Paul I'm a Fan of Paul 32 fans permalink

Or 1933

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 12/05/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 428 fans permalink
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Yup. This ain't gonna be pretty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 12/05/2008

Gasoline prices dropping to below $2 a gallon price and barrel of oil below $44 a barrel, is sign of not only economic slow down, recession it is the "writing on the wall a 2nd great depression is on the horizon for 2009, remember 1928 stock market crash did not make depression immediate, but it precipitated it, 2008 stock market crash is our precipitation of 2nd great depression of 2009, almost exact circumstances Herbert Hoover "republican" 1928, George W. Bush Jr "republican" 2008, no mere coincidence two republicans whom believed the rich, elite, big business were god, paid lip service to god, jesus's teachings, has led us to this fate. It is funny to hear the icons of the right wing, Hannity, Oreilly, Ingraham, Beck, Limbaugh, Boortz, Savage, Coulter, Malkin, to name the more famous there are many more right wing hate/complainer radio/television icons whom constantly quote "re-distribution of wealth as proof of evil socialism, ironic when one reads the parable of the rich man whom wanted to follow jesus but when told to give/re-distribute his wealth to the poor, got suddenly sad, went away unable to do so, imagine the before mentioned rich icons of the right and the choice they would make, no doubt they would call jesus a false prophet, heretic, socialist, communist, bleeding heart liberal, democrat....how familiar does the republican right match the biblical pharisees!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 12/05/2008
- EinChicago I'm a Fan of EinChicago 36 fans permalink

"almost exact circumstances Herbert Hoover "republican" 1928, George W. Bush Jr "republican" 2008, no mere coincidence two republicans whom believed the rich, elite, big business were god, paid lip service to god, jesus's teachings, has led us to this fate"

You're missing on massive difference. With Hoover, we had to wait almost 4 years before he could be replaced in 1932 and something could be done. We only have another month or so. In a confidence based economy, that can make a major difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 12/05/2008
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