Franken Scores: More Ballots Found In Democratic Stronghold

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First Posted: 12- 5-08 12:40 PM   |   Updated: 01- 5-09 05:12 AM

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Days after it was reported that 133 ballots were missing in the Minneapolis portion of the Minnesota Senate recount, local officials in the city said they had discovered a misplaced stack of ballots. Democratic sources in the state, meanwhile, say that this group of votes were not counted on the day of the election, meaning they will have a larger effect on the outcome of the recount.

By mid-day Friday a spokesperson for the city, Matt Laible, said that the envelope contained about 10 absentee ballots -- a small number compared to the total number of votes casts in the state, but potentially very significant. An hour or so later, Marc Elias, Franken's lawyer, declared that with all precincts recounted the campaign's internal numbers had them ahead by a mere four votes.

"We are moving on to the next stage of the process," said Elias. "We are not declaring victory."

As such, the findings of the missing absentee ballots -- which Laible said would not be tallied immediately -- are being cheered by Al Franken's campaign not merely because they come from a deeply Democratic area of the city and promise to bolster the vote total of the Democratic challenger. But over the past few weeks, the Franken team has been arguing that the recount process must be more comprehensive and thorough. Indeed, on a conference call with reporters, Elias announced that the campaign was sending a letter to officials in the state's 87 counties, urging them to redouble their efforts to look into missing ballots, including improperly rejected absentee ballots.

Earlier in the week, election officials discovered more than 170 ballots in Ramsey County that, once counted, added 37 votes to Franken's total. The disappearance of 133 ballots from Minneapolis, however, has thrust both campaigns into full-on political hysteria. During a conference call on Thursday, aides to Franken argued that the disappearance of these votes would effectively throw the election to Sen. Norm Coleman.

The Coleman camp's response, meanwhile, was a bit more confused. The Senator's lawyer, Fritz Knaak, declared on Thursday that they did "not know that there are any ballots missing, and it is premature and simply irresponsible to suggest that they are."

At the same time, the local press was reporting that instead of accidentally counting 133 ballots twice on Election Day (the alternative explanation for why those votes had gone missing) local officials had determined a single envelope of ballots was in fact missing.

This was the second time Knaak had misstated a recount-related issue. Four days after the election, he declared that a Minneapolis elections director had ridden around the city with 32 ballots in her car -- raising questions of her integrity -- when she discovered them after the election. It turned out, however, that the ballots had been transported properly back to Minneapolis City Hall from a precinct, before briefly being misplaced.

UPDATE: Talking Points Memo quotes a local election official saying that, if the state can't find the 133 ballots that are missing in Minneapolis, they may simply include the Election Night total for the precinct in place of a recount total. This would be a big victory for Franken as well, as he would "avoid losing a net 46 votes if [the ballots] were disregarded."

Days after it was reported that 133 ballots were missing in the Minneapolis portion of the Minnesota Senate recount, local officials in the city said they had discovered a misplaced stack of ballots. ...
Days after it was reported that 133 ballots were missing in the Minneapolis portion of the Minnesota Senate recount, local officials in the city said they had discovered a misplaced stack of ballots. ...
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It's unfotunate that Al was "Nadered" by Dean Barkley. The fact is that there was, in fact, another Democrat in the race; Barkley became upset when the state party named Al Franken as the Party's candidate, so he ran as an independent. Had Al not been "Nadered," would have won in a walk. That is why the Republicans are terrified of either a ful accounting of all cast ballots, or a run-off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 12/09/2008

I don't get it. Missing ballots, purged voter lists, hanging chads... And we want to spread democracy around the world? This is shameful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 12/09/2008

About 8 years ago India with 1.2 billion people and over 350 million voting, many in small hamlets without electricity or good roads counted all ballots without a ny serious problems or complaints. Now the strongest, the greatest, the richest etc.. country who gave an election to the loser in 2000,
has not finished counting votes in MN!! How many millions did they spent? in addition to all the costs of the campaigns, It will be a lot cheaper and faster if we out sourced this process next time around... to INDIA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 12/09/2008

go al!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 12/09/2008
- MGhamma I'm a Fan of MGhamma 15 fans permalink

All these missing ballots? Suggests that election workers are overworked and need help. More vollenteers perhaps? Where do I sign up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 12/09/2008
- Okieborn I'm a Fan of Okieborn 63 fans permalink

Typical Repubs. !!
Hanging Chads are =OK !!
Missing Ballots Found= Fraud !!! LOL !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 12/09/2008

Wheres the chain of custody on these votes that the Al Franken vote fariy magically created. No chain of custody no vote will count.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 12/09/2008

People who work elections and under whos care ballots go missing should be barred from working in all future elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 AM on 12/09/2008

It will be nice voting can be done from home, or by mail. Many of the old people who are sitting at the precincts and some voters do not speak or understand English, or have no clue as to the working of these machines. May God save the republic( PS in some places I have been to) Young people ought to volunteer for a better salary in future elections, to give proper instructions to first time voters and when new technique are employed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 12/09/2008
- brantl I'm a Fan of brantl 6 fans permalink

Easiest way to rig an election would be vote-by-mail. Hands down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 12/11/2008
- adamsmith3 I'm a Fan of adamsmith3 17 fans permalink

This just in: I found some missing ballots in the heavily Democratic stronghold of my neighbor's couch cushions. But seriously, this will probably, and unfortunately, come down to a coin toss (that's right, who becomes a national leader will decided the same way we decide who gets to kick or receive).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 12/09/2008
- lolyla I'm a Fan of lolyla 5 fans permalink
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I don't understand the controversy about Al Franken insisting that each and every vote be counted. This is a core principle in a democratic society - one vote for every one person. I'll bet that the 133 people whose ballots were missing would feel betrayed and marginalized to learn their votes could have altered the outcome of this election. What's wrong? Is there too much democracy for you neo-cons now? For eight years, liberals have been told that if we don't like the way the country is being governed, we're free to leave. Right back atcha.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 12/09/2008
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 136 fans permalink

So, when we will we know that all of the votes have been counted? Whoever gets elected, it would be nice to have this race overwith, but not before all the ballots are counted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 12/08/2008
- PSRinNJ2 I'm a Fan of PSRinNJ2 6 fans permalink

All you Dems keep bringing up Florida. I think you all need to remember that the Florida 2000 fiasco was investigated by numerous news organizations and Bush won. Period.

You think that if you keep saying over and over again that the election in Florida was stolen that it will make it so. But it won't.

Minnesota, on the other hand, keeps "finding" ballots for Franken. This reeks of fraud.

And you know it, too...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 12/08/2008
- Bongborg I'm a Fan of Bongborg 91 fans permalink
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Is NJ2, like, some other planet? Parallel dimension? I'm pretty sure in this time-space continuum, I saw newspaper stories wherein it was made clear that when the votes were counted, finally, Bush lost. Period.

You seem to have had some success with the repetition thing, causing you to apparently believe all manner of things most people don't, and yet you tell us it won't work for us.

Don't tell us what we know, stick to telling us what you know; it won't take nearly as long, for one thing, and for another, some of us enjoy laughing at deluded trolls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 12/08/2008
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Gore would have been a disaster anyway, lets just focus on the next administra­tion....th­eyll keep blaming Bush for the next 30 years, even if there is success in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 12/09/2008
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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Ooooh. Now it seems like fraud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 12/09/2008
- Dolphyn I'm a Fan of Dolphyn 2 fans permalink

In August 2007, Dan Rather reported on the exact methodology that was used to steal Florida from Al Gore in 2000. Those hanging chads were no accident.

Watch Part 3 of Dan Rather's report: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4960

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 12/09/2008
- Gronkie I'm a Fan of Gronkie 26 fans permalink

The Florida 2000 election was stolen long before election day. Jeb BUSH spent months before the election purging the voter registration rolls, dumping tens of thousands of voters because they had names SIMILAR to convicted felons. You know, when it comes to letting felons vote, it's better to be safe than sorry. Those people who were unjustly purged didn't realize it until election day, when they were turned away from the polls. These purges were primarily held in Democratic counties. Also, folowing the election, votes in Democratic counties were challenged on a much larger scale than those in Republican counties. When the dust settled, the "official" margin of victory was only 527 votes. Without the purgese and the challenges, Gore would have won Forida by a wide margin. Read Greg Palast's "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 12/09/2008

The ongoing saga of the race between a hippie-tur­ned-Republ­ican and a comedian-turned Democrat in the great state that gave us pro-wrestl­er-turned-­Governor Jesse The Body Ventura!
http://democralypsenow.blogspot.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 12/08/2008
- legalclubs I'm a Fan of legalclubs 11 fans permalink

It's amazing that we keep finding "missing" ballots and that all the "missing" ballots net in Franken's favor. Are we really suppose to believe this is a fair process or just a preordained result in a state controlled by Dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 12/08/2008
- Bongborg I'm a Fan of Bongborg 91 fans permalink
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No, it's amazing that you are about the 1,000,000th rightwinger making that "observation". Now a little elementary deduction. If ballots for the democratic candidate go "missing", who is more likely to have made that happen, the "dems" or someone else? Nothing in an election is preordained, except possibly the results of a Diebold vote tabulator, if it favors a Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 12/08/2008
- PSRinNJ2 I'm a Fan of PSRinNJ2 6 fans permalink

Just admit it. The Democrat Party is stealing this election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 12/08/2008

Al Franken is definitely fit for this office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 12/08/2008

Seems like this is leading to a tie. How's about both candidates agree to a run-off election? It certainly sounds very fishy to be discovering new bunches of un-counted ballots, like discovering a new vein of gold in the mines. Whatever political side you're on, for an objective observer, this is getting fishier and fishier. Either side can argue that the other side is trying to steal the election by a handful or hand-empty of votes. At least this time it's just a position in the Senate, not the President of the USA at stake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 12/08/2008
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