Proposed Cow "Gas" Tax Angers Farmers

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BOB JOHNSON | 12/ 5/08 06:27 PM | AP

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MONTGOMERY, Ala. — For farmers, this stinks: Belching and gaseous cows and hogs could start costing them money if the federal government decides to charge fees for air-polluting animals.

Farmers so far are turning their noses up at the notion, which they contend is a possible consequence of an Environmental Protection Agency report after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2007 that greenhouse gases from motor vehicles amounts to air pollution.

"This is one of the most ridiculous things the federal government has tried to do," said Alabama Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks, an outspoken opponent of the fees.

EPA officials insisted Friday that the lengthy, highly technical report, which mostly focuses on other sources of air pollution, does not include a proposal to tax livestock.

But the American Farm Bureau Federation said, based on federal agriculture department figures, it would require farms or ranches with more than 25 dairy cows, 50 beef cattle or 200 hogs to pay an annual fee of about $175 for each dairy cow, $87.50 per head of beef cattle and $20 for each hog.

The executive vice president of the Wyoming Farm Bureau Federation, Ken Hamilton, estimated the fee would cost owners of a modest-sized cattle ranch $30,000 to $40,000 a year. He said he has talked to a number of livestock owners about the proposals, and "all have said if the fees were carried out, it would bankrupt them."

Sparks said Wednesday he's worried the fee could be extended to chickens and other farm animals and cause more meat to be imported.

"We'll let other countries put food on our tables like they are putting gas in our cars. Other countries don't have the health standards we have," Sparks said.

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The farm groups say the fee would apply to farms with livestock operations that emit more than 100 tons of carbon emissions in a year and fall under federal Clean Air Act provisions.

EPA officials said the agency has not taken a position on any of the matters discussed in its response to the Supreme Court ruling. And John Millett, a spokesman for EPA's air and radiation division, said there has been an oversimplification of the EPA's document "to the point of distortion."

"EPA is not proposing any type of tax on livestock," he said.

The EPA briefly mentions "raising livestock" in its report on ways to regulate greehnouse gases under the provisions of the Clean Air Act. Paul Schlegel, director of public policy for the American Farm Bureau Federation, said it determined the possible fees that could be imposed by using Agriculture Department statistics on the amount of greenhouse gases that come from livestock and applied it to the EPA's permitting rules.

Farmers from across the country have expressed outrage over the EPA report, both on Internet sites and in opinions sent to EPA during a public comment period that ended last week. Many call it a "cow tax" and say the EPA proposed it.

"It's something that really has a very big potential adverse impact for the livestock industry," said Rick Krause, the senior director of congressional relations for the American Farm Bureau Federation.

The fee would cover the cost of a permit for the livestock operations. While farmers say it would drive them out of business, an organization supporting the proposal hopes it forces the farms and ranches to switch to healthier crops.

"It makes perfect sense if you are looking for ways to cut down on meat consumption and recoup environmental losses," said Bruce Friedrich, a spokesman in Washington for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

"We certainly support making factory farms pay their fair share," he said.

U.S. Rep. Robert Aderholt, a Republican from Haleyville in northwest Alabama, said he has spoken with EPA officials and doesn't believe the cow tax is a serious proposal that will ever be adopted by the agency.

"Who comes up with this kind of stuff?" said Perry Mobley, director of the Alabama Farmers Federation's beef division. "It seems there is an ulterior motive, to destroy livestock farms. This would certainly put them out of business."

(This version CORRECTS Corrects in 2nd graf that thrust of Supreme Court ruling related to motor vehicles and not livestock.)

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wether they are serious about this or not, it is ridiculous. it would only hurt the farmers, not stop their cows from farting and belching. the proposed NAIS will hurt us enough if it passes here.

they should include horses in this as well because our horses pass more gas than our cows do!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 12/11/2008
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All you anti tax folks, don't get so excited,

There is no such tax.

It's a conservative hoax.

The Epa Denies any such idea:
http://www.dothaneagle.com/dea/news/local/article/epa-endorsed_cow_tax_not_in_the_cards/49676/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 12/09/2008

I wish all I had to worry about is how much some cow in Iowa is farting. Tax it, that is always the answer, right? Let me know how much I am going to owe when I have to replace my double cheese burger with twigs and berries because that stuff gives me gas. Got to go and start the grill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 12/08/2008

Let's start at the "top" of our problem here in America and tax the congressmen for constantly emitting green gases from both ends. They blow more poisonous gases than all the livestock on earth. Now ... what do you think the "poisonous green gas tax" should be on each congressman? I would recommend at least $500,000 per each congressman. We could use this tax to pay off some of our national debt they have caused over the years. Let's get real about our situation here in America. It is not the innocent animals that provide pleasure and food for all of us, but our problems are caused by out of control spending by our elected officials. We are not wanting socialism or communism here in our country. Not now, or ever. Wake yourself up, shake yourself and get your brain in action! Start writing our congressmen and letting them know that socialism nor communism has never worked in any society. Our founding fathers wanted our people to be free and not in bondage to any government or people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 12/07/2008

I live in the country and it is down right rediculas for such a tax. Cows have been here for centuries and it is unreal to blame that on God's creatures that feed us. The farmers won't be able to have the cattle and pay such a stupid price therefore we will be without beef. Think people!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 12/06/2008
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It's a conservative AFB lie. There is no such tax proposed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 12/07/2008
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The natural state of the north American continent had millions of Buffalo, Elk, Deer, Moose and other grazing animals, all flatulating away.
Farting cows?? Com’n
Extremist vegetarians can make good progressiv­e/liberals look as ridiculous as they are.
That is if we tolerate there stupidity.
Lets not let these extreme vegetarians taint the cause by piggybacking on global warming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 12/06/2008
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Everyone seems to be making this into an anti-meat-eating issue.
I don't get it. That's not what this article is about.

But if you want to talk about feedlot farming vis-a-vis pollution (not to mention food safety, animal cruelty, etc.), then I submit that the problem isn't eating meat, it's the WAY we farm it. (Or, if you want to go further, it's the AMOUNT of meat we eat, which forces us to farm it the way we do).

I love me some beef. But I have to say, the way it's raised makes me uneasy. Sometimes I think to myself, "How is it even POSSIBLE that a pound of beef can cost 99 cents??" I mean, asparagus costs 4x as much. WTF?

I'm no hippy, but I've started to buy local/organic beef (and chicken). It's expensive, but c'mon, it ought to be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 12/06/2008
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Instead of just taxing gaseous cows and pigs, why don't we spend money on capturing the methane from the animals and convert it into energy.

In California, PG&E is already doing this. Farmers could actually sell the energy from their animals and make money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 12/06/2008
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Why raise such a stink?

Frankly, they're just blowing a lot of hot air.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 12/06/2008
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Tax the House. Between Frank and Pelosi they stink up the planet more than the cows...come to think of it ther is not much difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 12/06/2008
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By this theory I estimate that each politician should be taxed at least $10 000 per year, based on how full of C##p they are compared to the average Cow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 12/06/2008
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Amen to that!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 12/06/2008

you ever seen a pig farm? we don't need to worry about the gas... try the lagoons!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 12/06/2008
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This the #1 cause of global warming! They should be tax to death.haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ol_6Ju3oYI

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 AM on 12/06/2008
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If you want to find the TRUE cause of "global warming", look up to the sun.

Solar activity has more to do with our climate than anything else.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller21.html

If you don't want to eat animals, that's your business. Just don't force your religion down our throats. I like the protein I get from beef and besides, it tastes really good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 12/06/2008

Eat what you want, but you should pay your fair share for it's real cost to the planet (as calculated by actual climate scientists).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 12/06/2008
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The EPA insists that is not proposing any tax like this.
It's the farmers' industry group that claims it's happening.

What's up with that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 AM on 12/06/2008
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It's probably a preemptive tactic.

The EPA is charged with doing something to control animal methane emissions. One tactic they could employ would be to drive down beef consumption by making beef more expensive.

Those who claim human-caused global warming is a hoax couldn't be more incorrect. Methane is a greenhouse gas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 12/06/2008
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Sure. But why so hysterical and accusatory?

Why not just some out and say, "Look, we the cattle farmers of the US love the Earth. And we love the EPA. But we're very concerned that this recent legislation may have some undesirable-- and indeed, wholly unintended-- effects on our industry. The EPA has assured us that the law will not be used this way. In order to make sure of that, we ask that this potential loophole be closed."

A well-written op-ed sent to the appropriate newspapers would do the trick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 12/06/2008
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"Other countries don't have the health standards we have," Sparks said."

haha...propaganda at its best...

the semantics in this statement are more obvious...
of course other countries don't have the health standards we have.....lol...
they are better...
in many ways better...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 12/06/2008

or much worse...depending on the country....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 12/09/2008

ok a cow gas tax.......

maybe we should make a human gas tax ot a pet gas tax. this is just another vegan extremest way of stoping people from haveing what we have been haveing for eons MEEEEEEEEEET!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 12/06/2008
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