"Call In Gay Day" The Latest Prop 8 Protest

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LISA LEFF | December 8, 2008 09:12 PM EST | AP

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In this file photo from June 17, 2008, Eric Manriquez, left, and Juan Rivera hold their gold wedding rings together as they get married in East Los Angeles. On Wednesday, Dec. 10, supporters of same-sex marriage across the country are being encouraged to stay home and call in "gay" to work to protest the passage of Proposition 8. (AP Photo/Damian Dovarganes, File)

SAN FRANCISCO — Some same-sex marriage supporters are urging people to "call in gay" Wednesday to show how much the country relies on gays and lesbians, but others question whether it's wise to encourage skipping work given the nation's economic distress. Organizers of "Day Without a Gay" _ scheduled to coincide with International Human Rights Day and modeled after similar work stoppages by Latino immigrants _ also are encouraging people to perform volunteer work and refrain from spending money.

Sean Hetherington, a West Hollywood comedian and personal trainer, dreamed up the idea with his boyfriend, Aaron Hartzler, after reading online that a few angry gay-rights activists were calling for a daylong strike to protest California voters' passage last month of Proposition 8, which reversed this year's state Supreme Court decision allowing gay marriage.

The couple thought it would be more effective and less divisive if people were asked to perform community service instead of staying home with their wallets shut. Dozens of nonprofit agencies, from the National Women's Law Center in Washington to a Methodist church in Fresno collecting food for the homeless, have posted opportunities for volunteers on the couple's Web site.

"We are all for a boycott if that is what brings about a sense of community for people," said Hetherington, 30, who plans to spend Wednesday volunteering at an inner-city school. "You can take away from the economy and give back in other ways."

Hetherington said he's been getting 100 e-mails an hour from people looking for volunteer opportunities, and that his "Day Without a Gay" Web site has gotten 100,000 hits since mid-November.

Despite Hartzler and Hetherington's attempt to fashion a positive approach, some organizers of the street demonstrations that drew massive crowds in many cities last month have been reluctant to embrace the concept, saying that it could be at best impractical and at worst counterproductive to "call in gay."

"It's extra-challenging for people to think about taking off work as a form of protest, given that we are talking about people who may not be out (as gay) at work, and given the current economic situation and job market," said Jules Graves, 38, coordinator of the Colorado Queer Straight Alliance. "There is really not any assurance employers would appreciate it for what it is."

Graves' group nonetheless is arranging for interested participants to volunteer at the local African Community Center in Denver. The agency said it could find projects to keep 20 people busy, but so far only 10 have pledged to show up, said Graves.

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Scott Craig, a fifth-grade teacher at Independence Charter School in Philadelphia, had no problem requesting and being granted the day off. So many of the school's 60 teachers were eager to show support for gay rights they had to make sure enough stayed behind to staff classrooms.

About 25 teachers plan to take Wednesday off and to have their work covered by substitutes while they discuss ways to introduce gay issues to their students and volunteer at the local branch of the American Civil Liberties Union, Craig said. A letter telling parents why so many teachers would be out went home Monday.

"We want to get the conversation going in the community that gay is not bad," Craig said. "For kids to hear that in a positive light can be life-changing."

Join The Impact, the online community that launched protests last month over the passage of gay marriage bans in California, Florida and Arizona, has urged people to withdraw $80 from their bank accounts Wednesday to demonstrate gays' spending power, and to devote the time they might otherwise spend watching TV or surfing the Internet to volunteer work.

Witeck-Combs Communications, a public relations firm in Washington that specializes in the gay and lesbian market, published a study this year that estimated that gay and lesbian consumers spend $700 billion annually.

Bob Witeck, the firm's chief executive officer, said it would be difficult to measure the success of Wednesday's strike since gay employees occupy so many fields. And rather than suspending all consumer spending for the day, gay rights supporters would have a bigger impact if they devoted their dollars to gay-friendly businesses year-round, Witeck said.

"Our community leaders who are running book stores, newspapers, flower shops, coffee houses, bars and many, many other things are hurting right now, so paying attention to their needs during this hard time is an effective form of activism," he said.

Hetherington said he has been careful to design A Day Without a Gay _ he came up with the name after the film "A Day Without a Mexican" and liked it because it rhymed _ so no one feels excluded or threatened.

He has specifically urged high school students not to walk out of their classes and assured college students they won't be disloyal to the cause if they go ahead and take their final exams. He also has listed opportunities _ ranging from writing letters to members of Congress about federal gay rights legislation to spreading the word about Wednesday on social networking sites _ for gay marriage backers who cannot miss work.

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On the Net:

http://www.daywithoutagay.org/

http://jointheimpact.com/

SAN FRANCISCO — Some same-sex marriage supporters are urging people to "call in gay" Wednesday to show how much the country relies on gays and lesbians, but others question whether it's wise to ...
SAN FRANCISCO — Some same-sex marriage supporters are urging people to "call in gay" Wednesday to show how much the country relies on gays and lesbians, but others question whether it's wise to ...
 
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Please let these gays get married. After all look at the income the states can make from marriage licences alone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 01/05/2009

The central issue is the definition of love and what that looks like living day-to-day.
http://allanerickson.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/what-does-the-bible-actually-teach-about-homosexuality/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 12/11/2008

Why do homosexuals want to get married? Why aren't civil unions enough? It is as if the aquisition of gay marriage into their lives will legitimize the life they have chosen (and I say chosen because you do choose who you sleep with, even if you don' t choose who you want to sleep with). If their lifestyle is, as they claim to believe, without shame or remorse, why do they need the approval of other Americans? Why isn't a civil union with legal rights enough? Why do they need to take over an institution that was designed to encourage the heterosexual lifestyle they rejected?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 12/09/2008
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"homosexuals" want their abnormal social behavior to be accepted as "natural behavior" that's why all this struggle is for

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 12/09/2008

if homosexuality is so abnormal, then why is homosexuality even found among animals? If God created animals, and some are gay, couldn't the same be inferred about humans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 12/09/2008

I tend to agree with that explanation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 12/09/2008

I don't care what you think about gay people as long as I have the same civil rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 12/09/2008

And you want your obsession with gay men to be accepted as "natural behavior" That' YOUR struggle. But you already know that. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 12/09/2008
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Gay people want families too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 12/09/2008

I don't think that homosexuals are looking for anyone's approval. I think that the issue is one of discrimination and second class citizens. I think it has to do with people of faith pushing their beliefs on others, when our constitution clearly was intended to prohibit this. I think it was called "tyranny of the majority".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 12/09/2008

I think that you have a very skewed pic on "being gay". It is not a disease or mental disorder. It is based on genetics, being born that way. Now, I understand that it may be not something that you may want to hear, but it is what most medical books would say in this day and age.

i would hope that if/when you have a gay child, you would be able to understand this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 12/09/2008

Civil unions DO NOT have the same benefits as marriage. So your point is MOOT.

If all of you "sanctity of marriage" people want to make that point then FIGHT FOR EQUAL RIGHTS for Civil unions! But they WON'T do that - why? - because this is all about homophobia and bigotry disguised as outrage about a word or institution.

I don't care if you care about me being gay or not. (it's not a lifestyle it's an orientation)

We didn't reject a hetererosexual lifestyle - we are gay. The only choice we have is to live openly or live a lie.

Damn the people on here are uneducated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 12/09/2008
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"....it's not a lifestyle it's an orientation...."

PROVE IT!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 12/09/2008
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How on earth I can continue the debate when webmasters have decided not to post some of my comments even though I have not posted any abusive comment. Just some people don't happens to agree with me doesn't mean I am offending anybody.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 12/09/2008

Well when you were calling people sodomites it was offensive and the fact you ask inflammatory questions instead of really debating makes you a target of the censors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 12/09/2008
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What exactly is your "real debate"??....enlighten me!

And calling sodomite is not offensive if you don't believe on gospels.

My questions might be inflammatory to some. But these are genuine questions.., some people don't like to face.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 12/09/2008

You are correct. You do not offend me. You embarrass yourself. If you would kindly re read all of your posts, you would see that you are the most obvious Latent Case anyone has ever seen. You're classic. Get a book on it. You'll probably recognize yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 12/09/2008

It's a 'slanted' website! Many of mine are pure but don't get posted either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 01/05/2009

I disagreed with Prop 8 because according to my religious beliefs the definiton of marriage is a spiritual and physical union between a man and a woman with the ultimate purpose of procreation. I support civil unions and legal rights for gay couples because my religion is not everyones. But why should we change the definiton of a social relationship after thousands of years to cater to a minority group? Even in ancient Greece, where male homosexual relationships were not frowned upon and quite common, marriage was still reserved for a man and a woman. I do not like the meaning of age old terms and institutions altered because a minority of people want it so. And the amount of people who support Prop 8 are a minority group, or they would not have lost the vote.

I do not hate gay people. I have loved ones who are gay, friends and family alike. I love them for who they are. But I don't agree with all their choices, and I don't think that living a gay lifestyl is in their overall best interest. I also don't like having to change my reality to suit the reality they would prefer. If they choose a life that is outside the mainstream, they should be comfortable enough outside the mainstream to live without the traditions the mainstream has cultivated, such as marriage between a man and a woman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 12/09/2008

How big of you to make such allowances for your fellow man. Gee, I wonder what arguments you'd have made during the other Civil rights movements. You could have used your bible too. I would bet that if i met you, and i were the decider, like you want to be, I would forbid you from being with any other human being. It just wouldn't seem normal, heaven forbid you procreate, and the idea of you practicing any kind of 'lifestyle' would probably nauseate me. How does that make you feel? Extra human?

Why would YOU choose to belittle and demean who someone else loves or wants to commit to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 12/09/2008
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Why do you relate your sexual behavior with civil right movement?? You put the word "right" and then go on for false comparisons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 12/09/2008

So when did you choose to be straight? I have a suggestion.......try being gay for five years and then tell me what you think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 12/09/2008
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Nobody "choose to be straight". Though you "choose to be gay".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 12/09/2008

If indeed you " ...love them for who they are", please take the time to do some research into the history of marriage. Until very very recent times, it was about property and inheritance. And read something from the public library, not a church pamphlet rack. I'm trying not to be sarcastic. I think you mean it when you say you care. Go ahead, follow-through, do some reading - you might find you love your gay family and friends even more, as their lives include so much more than you seem to perceive in your post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 12/09/2008
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"I disagreed with Prop 8 because according to my religious beliefs"...and thankfully for the rest of America, there is a separation of church and state. Move along now....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 12/10/2008

Thank God there is a place for Functor to hang out with gay men. You guys are doing a huge service to the world at large. Give him lots of attention. He is obviously lacking. Consider it a good deed. Maybe he will feel safe and not so scared. It must be a terrible way to live. Take pity on someone who guides their life with fear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 12/09/2008
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Is it true that there are more gays then lesbian? If yes..then why??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 12/09/2008

I have no idea and no intention of researching the matter. You want to know why? I don't care. It has no relevancy to my life. It doesn't change anything about how I feel about other human beings. The only thing I care about is how people treat their fellow man. The rest is frankly none of my business.

Now you tell me, why this weird interest in gay people? I know you threw in lesbians to make it look different, but you're fooling no one. I do not understand why you wouldn't just accept who you are. it would make it a a helluva lot easier to accept other people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 12/09/2008

what's the difference, gay is gay, male or female.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 01/05/2009
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San Francisco Supervisor and Assemblyman Elect Tom Ammiano gives a speech on November 15th, 2008 at the Proposition 8 Passage Protest on the steps of San Francisco's City Hall, the site of San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk and San Francisco Mayor George Moscone's Murder. Watch it and more @

http://www.trifecta.tv/prop8/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 12/09/2008

Got Milk?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 01/05/2009
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don't call in gay... call the HRC and find out where all the donated money goes to! they did nothing to fight this proposition., but did a hell of a job planning this years christmas party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 12/09/2008

You have a point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 12/09/2008

Such angry comments.

The truth is that everyone is different. We are not all gay for the same reasons, just as straight people are not all straight for the same reasons. Life is complex and in our own ways we are discovering what life has to offer. If we by choice (or not) live a life where we are paired with someone of the same sex, we will do it. If you want to be a part of our life, accept it and move on to getting to know us as people, not as some collective "gays."

If you start feeling angry about how people are doing something different than you, stop, think about why it could be the way it is if you want to entertain yourself; or ask. Each one of us will have different answers which you can learn from when you pick your partner/friend/s etc. Is this such a hard concept to grasp? I'm gay, I hold nothing against the people that talk stereotypes because I know that for me they are not true. I am who I am, and I will guide my life based on the principles that we are all the same, but we take different paths through life. Interestingly christian concept simplified in the form of the constitution as "All men are created equal"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 12/09/2008

"We are not all gay for the same reasons, "
This is interesting... can you please list some reasons people become gay?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 12/09/2008

To Eric8869:

First, the Civil Rights concerning Blacks has absolutely nothing to do with gays! Let's be clear on that. We were created Black by our Creator, which is a good thing. On the other hand, gay people choose the lifestyle of homosexuals. I don't want to hear "I was born this way" stuff as it really is tired and old and untrue.

And, even if it were true, Jesus said "You Must Be Born Again!" If I were you, I'd examine my heart and life and try to find out why I am attracted to someone who looks like me! You mean to tell me that you could look at a pretty, sexy, curvy, and feminine woman and say "No Thank You", but then say "yes" to a rusty, crusty man?? Wow! What sickness indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 12/09/2008

If you want to ignore science, Ebonyman, that's your choice, but our sexual orientation is not a choice. Please cite some mainstream sources that say sexual orientation is a choice. Otherwise, your argument holds no water.

And like it or not, there are similarities between equal rights for gays and equal rights for blacks. No, the situations are not the same, but there are similarities.

I honestly can't believe you think that people choose their sexual orientation. I guess you're saying that you were attracted to both men and women, and that you chose to pursue women. If that's not the case, then it wasn't a choice for you. If it wasn't a choice for you, how do you think it was a choice for others?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 12/09/2008

It is true that homosexuality is biological. There are many studies that show differences in areas of the brain (amygdala, commissure, hypothalamus) between heterosexuals and homosexuals.

Studies also show that homosexual sheep have the same differences in the brain that homosexual humans do.

Scientists have induced homosexuality in fruit flies by changing a gene that regulates brain developments and hormones.

Educate yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 12/09/2008

Everything about your comment is ignorant and shameful. My friend prefers tall, athletic women and i prefer shorter, more voluptuous women. Should I accuse my friend of being sick because I don't find the same women attractive that he does? Whats the difference?

As far as your "Creator" is concerned, believe what you want but our country has separation of church and state, so your "Creator" can suck it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 12/09/2008

You're really sick. What a gross post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 12/09/2008
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are u the "crusty" man in question?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 12/09/2008

I think this idea can work on some level, but I think a better idea is to move the goalposts - push the "moral debate" even further from the center so that the Gay community ends up seeming almost square :-)

I say we join the new Bestiality-Rights revolution and get people off our topic!

Check out this amazing film to see what I'm talking about:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-152460894465175765&hl=en

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 12/09/2008

More like an amazing propoganda film. Subjective it is not, but totally one sided and simple minded. Just because a viewpoint differs from the mainstream does not make it profound, original, or intelligent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 12/09/2008

I think this is a ridiculous and embarrassing idea. (and I am gay)

If they're trying to get the majority of society on their side, this is not the way to do it.

Even though most gays won't skip work or call in sick, the minority who do will make the rest of the gay population look like a bunch of whiners. It's a terrible public relations move.

To the hetero/majority population: Please understand that not all gays endorse this kind of behavior.

In the past, I didn't understand what people meant when they said they were tired of having homosexuality "shoved down their throats". Now I'm starting to get it. Ugh.

I welcome your responses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 12/09/2008

I agree. I believe that more effort needs to be put into fundraising. Prop 8 was lost because grass roots efforts were not as strong as the opposition. In these times when there is little job security.."calling in gay" may not be the best mode of protest!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 12/09/2008

Gay rights (marriage or civil unions for all, adoption, repealing don't ask don't tell, federal non-discrimination laws, and hate crime laws) will take a long and hard fight.

We must be peaceful because Lord knows the Right will use any isolated incident to smear the entire community but.....

We will have to use boycotts, marches, vigils, protests, sit ins etc.

Every rights movement has used these tactics.

We also have to be in front of the media, reach out to people, and educate the public.

We won't be helping ourselves if we sit back, shut up, and do nothing.

Of course people are going to be fund raising and getting ready to put a ballot to repeal Prop 8 as well if the Supreme Court doesn't rule in favor of gay marriage.

But this is more than just gay marriage or Prop 8. The Gay Rights movement is becoming a full fledged movement and we need to keep the momentum going until gays have all the same rights and protections as straights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 12/09/2008

i'm gay, but this is ridiculous. choose your battles! lucky to have a job in these times. we should be organizing, fundraising and growing a grass roots movement.. not risking jobs to make a little noise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 12/09/2008

Calling in gay is a terrible idea. It punishes an employer for hiring a gay person. To an employer, it would be perceived as "this employee is more likely to miss work because he/she is gay and thinks that protesting about "gay rights" is more important than showing up to work" To the employer, the solution would be to cease hiring gays.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 12/09/2008

Are you one of those employers? Actually, if an employer engaged in any kind of reprisal they could be hauled in to court. How many Latinos were 'fired' for calling in "Mexican"? Actually, if these people have the TIME, they can use it any way they want to, and that includes calling in sick (or 'gay'). For those people who DON'T have things like sick leave, it's a matter of choice also....Any employer that expects an employee to show up for work even though the employee says they are sick, doesn't really trust their employees and therefore--NO ONE should work for them. I know I sound really radical, but it's time for the Gay Community to fight back on all fronts--and this is something that could really WORK. Or---is THAT what you're afraid of?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 12/09/2008

To my knowledge, there is no law saying that employers are not allowed to terminate employees that don't show up to work. Calling in gay is not the same as calling in sick, unless we support the idea that homosexuality is a sickness. People have rights to medical leave (in most jobs) precisely because asking sick employees to show up to work is counterproductive. If someone has the time off, that's one thing; but simply "calling in gay" is not acceptable, and the employer has no obligation to keep employing you. To bring up the immigrant protests is also an error. When immigrants pulled that stunt, all that resulted was animosity and further xenophobia towards the immigrant community.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 12/09/2008

No one has to literally "Call in Gay"-- just take the day off. Use a sick day or vacation day. And don't spend anything that day.

No one has to literally out themselves to their employers or risk loosing their job.

The gay rights movement has to raise awareness and consciousness through boycotts, strikes, marches, vigils, protests etc.

We can't sit back and do nothing while our rights are being denied or taken away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 12/09/2008
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