Deal Reached In Principle On $15B Auto Bailout

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HuffPost/WP/AP   |  JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS   |   December 8, 2008 05:27 PM


UPDATE 12/09 at 9:58PM:

The Associated Press reports that a deal on a $15 billion auto bailout has been reached in principle:

Congressional aides and a senior administration official say the White House and congressional Democrats have reached an agreement in principle to speed $15 billion in government loans to struggling U.S. automakers.


The plan could see a vote as early as Wednesday. It creates a government "car czar," to be named by President George W. Bush, to oversee the bailout billions and an auto industry restructuring. The czar would have to yank back the federal money if carmakers didn't do enough to reinvent themselves.

The measure is not final and could still face obstacles from congressional Republicans, who have not approved it.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to announce the developments.

UPDATE on 12/09 at 12:00 AM:

The Washington Post reports that the White House and Congressional Democrats have settled on a plan to rescue the ailing Big Three and that a bailout could pass this week:

Congressional Democrats and the White House yesterday settled on a plan to rush $15 billion in emergency loans to the cash-strapped Detroit automakers and were working into the night to resolve final disputes over the conditions the government should attach to the money.


Under the plan, unveiled by Democratic leaders, the Treasury Department would cut checks for the car companies as soon as next week. The proposal also calls for President Bush to name a "car czar" to manage a vast restructuring of the firms and restore them to profitability.

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Democrats bent to the will of the president on several key demands, most notably in agreeing that the emergency funding would be drawn from an existing loan program aimed at promoting fuel-efficient technologies.

Still, the White House objected yesterday to several elements of the Democratic proposal, congressional aides said, including requirements that the car companies notify Washington of any transaction of more than $25 million and that they pull out of lawsuits against states seeking to enforce tougher tailpipe-emissions standards.

Earlier, the AP reported:

Congressional Democrats and the White House worked to resolve their last disputes Monday over terms of a $15 billion bailout for U.S. auto makers _ complete with a "car czar" to oversee the industry's reinvention of itself _ that's expected to come to a vote as early as Wednesday.


Top Democrats gave the White House their proposal for rushing short-term loans to Detroit's Big Three through a plan that requires that the industry remake itself in order to survive. The Bush administration gave a cool initial response, saying the measure didn't do enough to ensure that only viable companies would get longer-term federal help. Negotiators worked into the night Monday to resolve differences.

"We've made a lot of progress in recent days to develop legislation to help automakers restructure and achieve long-term viability," Dana Perino, the White House press secretary, said in a statement. "We'll continue to work with members on both sides of the aisle to achieve legislation that protects the good faith investment by taxpayers."

President George W. Bush himself said it was "hard to tell" if a deal was imminent because definite conditions had to be met. "These are important companies, but on the other hand, we just don't want to put good money after bad," he said in an interview with ABC's "Nightline."

UPDATE 12/09 at 9:58PM: The Associated Press reports that a deal on a $15 billion auto bailout has been reached in principle: Congressional aides and a senior administration official say the White H...
UPDATE 12/09 at 9:58PM: The Associated Press reports that a deal on a $15 billion auto bailout has been reached in principle: Congressional aides and a senior administration official say the White H...
 
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- Arthur954 I'm a Fan of Arthur954 5 fans permalink
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As far as the bailout for GM and Chrysler is concerned, I would not treat both equally : Chrysler is owned by Cerberus --- one of those buyout companies I understand. Let Cerberus contribute the money. .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 12/10/2008
- neesy08 I'm a Fan of neesy08 20 fans permalink
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Vittier of Louisiana said the bill was "ass backwards.­" Frankly, I think it is the GOp that are AB. Now they decided to be fiscaly responsible when the Democrats are now in charge. When Bush was in the WH, he got whatever he wanted, which is why they took such a wallop at the polls. Now, tey do not want to assist Detroit. They would rather millions of blue collar workers loose their employment but will allow the white collar workers keep their jobs. The white collar workers are responsible for this mess.
Shelby and the like all have foreign car manufacturers in their states. If GM and Chrysler go down, so will they. These car manufacturers all use the same dealers for supplies. if these supply companies go out of business, this will hurt Toyota, BMW and the like. It will trikle down. These companies will begin laying off employees and watch what happens. The House will not move fast enough to approve this bailout. Hypocrites!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 12/10/2008
- dashboard I'm a Fan of dashboard 9 fans permalink
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This bill will be DOA in the Senate. The big three need to come back with a bailout plan on napkin like Paulson did...It seemed to be a much more effective strategy than all the meaningless group think that has been going in Congress and others while this industry circles the drain. Look for the green versions of the KCar, Pinto, and Chevy Vega coming to a dealer near you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 12/10/2008
- Teritt I'm a Fan of Teritt 9 fans permalink

I agree - first of all, they aren't asking for enough. Secondly, they are making way too many concessions. Nothing works like success - follow AIG & Citi's business plan, then Congress will give you even more than you originally requested. Remember when the initial $250Billion bill failed because Boehner, Putnam & Cantor were hurt be Pelosi's partisan speech? Well, triple it & then they'll get it. The only thing the car guys are missing is some tall nearly bald Republican to stand next to Bush at a press conference as backup telling us it's the only way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 12/10/2008
- Belisarius I'm a Fan of Belisarius 31 fans permalink
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Here's the problem.

No one thinks that this money will fix anything. It's only purpose is to keep GM and Chrysler out of bankruptcy for a few months. If we start this idiocy, we will probably end up paying ten times this amount and will nationalize the American car companies.

Has any government ever done a good job running a car company? Ask the Brits.

Can you trust this ear-marking congress to write a bill that protects the US tax payer from corporate thieves?

Is this just a full employment for auto-workers bill?

Is there going to be any money left in the treasury to pay for things like social security??

Glad I am not retired.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 12/10/2008
- neesy08 I'm a Fan of neesy08 20 fans permalink
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The British did a good job running their ar companies. I remember they had a car called the Mini that was real popular. They did not sell Rolls Royce and Jaguar because they did a bad job. You need to back and fact check. Plus, you cannot compare the US government to a foreign government, they are not organized the same way and handle business differently thanwe do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 12/10/2008
- Belisarius I'm a Fan of Belisarius 31 fans permalink
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I can still remember the 60 minutes episode that featured a Brit car factory, pre-Thatcher, where auto workers were climbing tall chain link fences to get out. Turned out that the factory locked the gates to keep workers from leaving an hour early, so they just climbed out. I think it was a British Leland plant.

Why do you think the Brits do not own any car companies today? Or coal, or utilities, etc. etc. Why are there no more socialist governments in Europe today?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 12/10/2008
- OkieMon I'm a Fan of OkieMon 35 fans permalink

and from this picture the b*otox is not working today....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 12/10/2008
- OkieMon I'm a Fan of OkieMon 35 fans permalink

the only thing pelosi cares about is if her b*oobs are sticking out and if her b*otox is working...­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 12/10/2008
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I am watching the Republican Senators voicing their opposition to the bailout for the Detroit automakers­...is it just me or did anyone notice that the most vocal of these guys are the ones from Southern states that have Japanese and German automakers residing in their states...t­he ones they gave millions of dollars in concessions to lure them to their states. They have a vested interest in the failure or shrinkage of the Detroit automakers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 12/10/2008
- Teritt I'm a Fan of Teritt 9 fans permalink

Many if us have noticed. Those Southern Senators gave their 'transplants' tax payer money on the front end by means of land, tax breaks, infrastructure changes, etc. It was still tax payer money, but they called it concessions instead of a bailout.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 12/10/2008
- neesy08 I'm a Fan of neesy08 20 fans permalink
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I noticed that. My state (KY) has had a Toyota plant I believe since 1984. What these Senators do not realize is that if Detroit fails, so do their beloved foreign car companies. They all use the same suppliers. If these suppliers all go out of business, then Toyota and the other plants willlay off workers. Watch what happens then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 12/10/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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$700 billion for the bankers no problem and no oversight accounting or accountabi­lity...

Roughly 2% of that to preserve an essential American Industry and millions of jobs for Americans and it's a big deal, with tons of strings attached a "Czar" Commissar and no doubt a crushing blow to what's left of the unions in America...­.

We must come to the realization that Our Treasury, no longer belongs to the American People at all but the corrupt banking cabal and The Bilderberg Group, Goldman Sachs and the Bush Mafia...!

You know if the Republicans, Bankers, Swindlers Neo Cons, completely destroy the Unions as they plan and wish, these can easily go from Unions to Militias..­.!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 12/10/2008
- hed I'm a Fan of hed permalink

Why did they make concessions to the Bush White house? So far the Democrats agreed to drop a demand that the Car companies drop lawsuits against tougher emission laws in states. The Democrats also caved on making Cerberus liable if Chrysler (which they own) defaults on the government loans.
In my opinion, the only way one to be comfortable with this agreement is if there was sufficient evidence that the Auto industry would fail in a matter of days, and I for one don't believe there is. If those companies can't survive one month without the "loan", then what does that tell you about their chances for the long term....Th­is was sold just like the Iraq war and Wall street problems were.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 12/10/2008

I heard that Cerberus will be responsible. I guess we have to see what is in the final bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 12/10/2008

What is going on here!!!!

This horrible compromise bailout bill ties the hand of Obama and essentially guarantees bankruptcy for the Big 3

Lets not be foolish...­.the Foreign automakers are being bolstered by their governments and by the southern states who give all kinds of direct and indirect tax subsidies

As usual the Dems under Pelosi have capitulated to the lame-duck President and Repubs and hence the auto-industry will be forced to declare bankrupcy in March

Does any expect the automakers to create a plan that will turn the industry aroun by March. No one (foreign or domestic) is selling cars. The recession may last up to two years...he­nce purchasing cars will not be an option for Americans

Why we so hell bent on destroying our manufacturing base in order to spite the unions?!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 12/10/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1605 fans permalink
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Withdraw from Iraq. Set reaonable goals and an exit plan from Afghanistan. Slash Pentagon budget, which currently exceeds $650 Billion per year, more than the defense spending by the rest of the world COMBINED.

Get out of war business. Invest in our future.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 12/10/2008

All of these Republican representatives from the south don't want to rescue the auto industries. There is something wrong when these states receive more federal tax money than they send. Places like Connecticut, California, New York and even Michigan are paying more income tax than states like Alabama, Tennessee, and West Virginia and receiving less federal dollars. If these people don't want to support northern industries too, than maybe their federal dollars should be cut back too. Why should we have welfare for these states?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 12/10/2008
- torrrep I'm a Fan of torrrep 12 fans permalink

Gee. Yet you have no problem to welfare to those who don't belong in this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 12/10/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1605 fans permalink
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Huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 12/10/2008

Puhlease

Welfare recipients are primarily whites (if you look at shear numbers).

And more welfare is given to corporatio­ns....look at the "bailout" of the financials

It has always been a GOP wedge issue/fallacy whereby welfare recipients were painted as being predominantly minorities particularly blacks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 12/10/2008
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If, as the President-elect says, America's roads, schools, bridges are crumbling, why not re-tool Detroit assembly lines to create the heavy machinery needed to repair the infrastructure? Giving public money to build more cars that nobody wants is like putting gas in a car that is going in circles. Or is this bail-out only intended to appease a special interest group called the UAW?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 12/10/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1605 fans permalink
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If re-tooling is done, they can re-tool to build fuel efficient cars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 12/10/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1605 fans permalink
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Thank you Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank and Senator Reid. You came through for our fellow citizens despite the opposition from the utterly depraved Republicans.

This loan is essential to saving their jobs, and there are enough conditions to ensure that the money is spent properly.

Sure, this is just a downpayment. They'll probably need around $100 Billion by the time we're done. But, starting Jan 20, it'll be a different game. We'll have a President who is on the side of the people.

This, of course, is a short term solution to save jobs, a longer term solution must include creation of new, hopefully green jobs.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 12/10/2008

Pelosi and Barney are the worst...th­row money, it will fix itself...

we-r-doomed

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 12/10/2008
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