Bill Ayers On Hardball: Calls Accusations "Profoundly Dishonest" (VIDEO)

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"I don't tend to watch television news...I have three grown sons who kind of filter those things and they sent it to me."

That's Bill Ayers, making an appearance this evening on Hardball, with Chris Matthews. Once of the Weather Underground, Ayers was more recently a central figure in the vast booga-foo nightmare that the GOP tried to paralyze the nation with to prevent the election of Barack Obama, because they didn't have any ideas or policies they wanted to talk about instead. I guess. I mean, such things could have been useful to a presidential campaign or something! Anyway, instead, we had loud braying about how Obama and Ayers might have met at some point, and Obama's failure to strike Ayers down in cold blood for his crimes was proof that they were in cahoots with one another. Or, in the parlance of Alaska Secessionists, "pallin' around."

Asked about his reaction to Palin's "palling around with terrorists remark, Ayers said: "I thought it was outrageous and profoundly dishonest, and I chose not to react to it at the time."

Ayers added, "I was on a board with President-Elect Obama, we did live in the same neighborhood, but the dishonesty of the narrative is that if you can place two people in the same room or prove that they took a bus downtown together, that they're somehow responsible for one anothers politics, policies, outlook, and behavior, and that seems to me to be patently absurd."

Matthews, along the way, talks about supposed Weather Underground targets like the Pentagon and the Capitol building having special "resonance" because they were hit on 9/11. I know, I know...unlike the Weather Underground, al Qaeda did not furnish evacuation warnings in advance of their attacks. Also, despite what Chris Matthews thinks, the Capitol Building was actually NOT ATTACKED ON 9/11.

Of those bombings, Ayers says, "I don't defend those actions...what I try to do in Fugitive Days is try to understand how this young man...in that context could find himself in these extreme positions." Lots of passive voice in the description, huh? "I think we made enormous mistakes," Ayers says, adding, "I think there were terrible things done." Ayers goes on to say he favors a sort of "truth and reconciliation" moment where everyone comes clean about what they did during the Vietnam War. Somehow I think Robert McNamara isn't going to see eye to eye with this concept.

"I don't want to defend what we did, nor do I think it was completely insane," Ayers says. Matthews remembers some demonstrations and some activism from the period, that he felt was more effective than bombing. What is it that distinguishes a protesting assemblage from a cabal of bombers? Desperation borne of solitude, perhaps. I'm tempted to say: the sort of narcissism that inspires a man to make sure the first thing he says to a TV newsman is that he doesn't watch television news.

For what it's worth, Chris Matthews' judgment was that Bill Ayers was a changed man. Make of that what you will.

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"I don't tend to watch television news...I have three grown sons who kind of filter those things and they sent it to me." That's Bill Ayers, making an appearance this evening on Hardball, with Chris ...
"I don't tend to watch television news...I have three grown sons who kind of filter those things and they sent it to me." That's Bill Ayers, making an appearance this evening on Hardball, with Chris ...
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- ymuttley I'm a Fan of ymuttley 2 fans permalink

Why don't some of you people here just "give it up" If it wasn't for Ayers living in Barack Obama s neighborhood, and being on a board with him,This Bill Ayers story would not have been an issue.
It was only brought up as a means to destroy the President elect, which it didn't.
Half of you people probably never even heard of the guy before the campaigns,yet all of a sudden you are an authority on him. BARACK OBAMA is our new president! 69 million people didn't give a sh#t about Ayers,or Wright. Chris Matthews has sunk to a new low, with his show, At one time he was a really good journalist. Now he's just like the majority of the people on these people on these stations, "ratings and money"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 12/11/2008

I was thinking the same thing just a short while ago- that if not for Barack Obama's candidacy, Ayers' name would be known mostly in academic circles and among the civic advocacy groups of Chicago.

He's been living a productive life, going about his business for a long time now and had his name not been dragged into the campaign, precious few of those currently screaming for his head would have even been aware of him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 12/11/2008
- PATina I'm a Fan of PATina 235 fans permalink
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I agree. The first time I heard about him... but first thought was "why isn't he in jail if he's such a terrible person?". It's obvious the authorities really don't have anything on him or he would be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 12/11/2008

Charges against Ayers connected to the Weather Underground were dismissed in 1973,due to investigative misconduct on the part of the FBI, the charges related to his having gone on the run were dismissed because without the underlying charges, there was no crime. (I suspect, but do not *know*, that a strong desire to avoid the media circus the trial would have been played some role the the decisions ) He remained underground for such a long time because the charges against his wife had not been dismissed and he chose to remain with her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 12/11/2008
- dgscol I'm a Fan of dgscol 4 fans permalink
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There were no rich kids protesting Iraq. Was it because there was no draft?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 12/11/2008
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What?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 12/11/2008
- klandish I'm a Fan of klandish 83 fans permalink
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Absolutely. But it wasn't just rich kids not protesting it was everyone who wasn't going to enlist and didn't fear a draft that became slackers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 12/11/2008
- ohiomark I'm a Fan of ohiomark 123 fans permalink

Ayers seems to have selective memory loss when it comes to what the Weather Underground did and who they kil led and injured. This includes the d e a t h s of two police officers and one security guard during an attack on a Brinks truck.

http://www.americanissuesproject.org/pdf/WeatherUndergroundTimelineOfEvents.pdf

When you set off an expl osive device, there is the possibility that someone could be k i l l e d or injured and people in the area are terrorized.

Nice try Ayers, but you are still a terrorist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 12/11/2008
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Ohiomark: IF you really think Ayers is a t e r r o r i s t THEN put your $$ where your mouth is and have him arrested under the Patriot Act ....

oh, let me guess, your gonna give reasons why you can't do that? Under the Patriot Act you can ya know ... so DO IT ... I DOUBLE DUTCH DOG DARE YA TO DO IT .....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 12/11/2008
- ohiomark I'm a Fan of ohiomark 123 fans permalink

He was let go because of a legal loophole regarding his custody when he was arrested.

If you charge him again it would be "double jeopardy" and I'm sure the ACLU (American Criminal Liberties Union) would have a problem with that.

I would LOVE to see him in jail for what he did, but "legally", he is a free man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 12/11/2008
- nikky I'm a Fan of nikky 8 fans permalink

WELL IF YOU WNA TO SEE TERORISTS JUST GO TO 1600 PENN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 12/11/2008
- musselmanm I'm a Fan of musselmanm 20 fans permalink
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I think that the restraint Bill Ayers showed during the campaigns was a great aid to President Obama in winning.
If Ayers, would have come off like a out of control hippie, attacking the right wing, it would have played into the hands of McCains campaign.
Very many small things which came together with the reasoned campaign Obama ran have perhaps changed the course of our nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 12/11/2008
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Indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 12/11/2008
- fishgirl26 I'm a Fan of fishgirl26 21 fans permalink
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The fact is that Ayers might not be a model citizen, but Obama wasn't exactly hanging out on the weekends w/ the guys talking politics and policy. He's not an advisor and if he would have reacted to McCain's slime it would have played right into McCain's hands. I think he's extremely concerned about our nation and the wars we enter....god knows I am!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 12/11/2008
- mathme I'm a Fan of mathme 31 fans permalink
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Yeah, he actually is a model citizen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 12/11/2008
- sueno I'm a Fan of sueno 13 fans permalink

Ayers, then, was a kid, open-eyed, honest and passionate-
Living in a world far more conservative then now, more innocent then now, and more facist then now-
It was the first time people understood that government lied, regularly to its people.
It was a time like now when, the country was split over the war and young people broke away
from conventional wisdom placed upon them like chains.
Ayers may not be considered a hero or a patriot to most, yet he stood up like
many others to be counted in this country's first major cultural war involving youth, racism,
women's issues, corruption and Vietnam.
Ayers clearly made a mistake, but we don't talk about or hold the forces that created the environment
responsible for anything.
Ayers story is still an important one, because it points to what "some" people will do
when government is off-track and suppressing the rights of the people
or in Bush & Rove's case, when government knowingly dis-honest with its people
for control, financial gain and world dominance-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 12/11/2008
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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Ayers had a reputation for treating women badly.

I hate it when premeditated violence is called a "mistake". Ayers won't own up to what he did. He makes cowardly excuses for himself. He's a weasel.

http://www.slate.com/id/1008160/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 12/11/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 152 fans permalink
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Ayers likes to say "mistakes were made" when referring to his own behavior. It 's one of Bush's favorite phrases as well in the same context.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 12/11/2008
- wonder6789 I'm a Fan of wonder6789 9 fans permalink

Not one person was killed or harmed in the "premeditated violence". And he takes full responsability for his actions.

The "weasels" were those who manufactured this war hiden behind their desks, and those who never tried to stop it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 12/11/2008

The biggest joke is that no matter how many times the Republicans invoked the name Bill Ayers, it did not work. In fact, McCain's poll numbers dropped each and every time it was used.

Note to the GOP -- next time make sure you have some actual ideas and policies when running a candidate for president, instead of relying on your usual fear tactics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 12/11/2008

Chris did well with the interview and didn't give in to Ayers BS. Ayers didn't even apoligize for his actions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 12/11/2008
- klandish I'm a Fan of klandish 83 fans permalink
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Mathews was condescending to Ayers. Chris's getting the last word in statement "you agitate your way I agitate my way" was egocentric and competitive. Trying to pin point exactly how Ayers feels about those bombings is pointless. No one was hurt or ki.ll.ed. Those were horrible times as anyone alive then knows. I think he has mixed feelings that cannot be boiled down to a black or white statement. Let it go. If the media was half as hard during interviews with Bush, who has created a lot of collateral damage we'd live in a more honest universe. Being an elected official doesn't give you the right to go on a ki.lli.ng spree anymore than a civilian protester.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 12/11/2008

"no one was hurt or killed": People were hurt and killed. Ayers is just another politician. He parses words when he minimizes the damage he inflicted by only admitting to individual actions he was directly involved in. What he was was a cult leader. He and his now wife got rid of anybody who disagreed. And they were stupid enough to get conned by infiltrators. Don't buy his book. He doesn't deserve your support and never did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 12/11/2008
- klandish I'm a Fan of klandish 83 fans permalink
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And where are your words of distain for the actual Politicians who established the climate that helped create the Weathermen. I don't hear that. Is it acceptable if an American President employees our military to enter another Country uninvited and illegally to destroy the infrastructure and maim and ki.ll hundreds of thousands of civilians in the name of helping to create a Democracy in our name? What are the options when this activity continues year after year with protests and promises to end the war by lying politicians having little to no effect on ending the car.nage? You tell me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 12/11/2008
- KSMullins I'm a Fan of KSMullins 3 fans permalink
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I agree and again we see that Matthews likes it be about him all too often. He even tried to make Ayers bombing personal by his association with this and that Capitol Policeman. Iike Matthews for the most part, but sometimes he tries too hard to push the dialogue in the direction he wants it to go instead of just asking a simple question and shutting up long enough for the person to answer.

And had Matthews listened with an unfiltered ear...he might have learned something last night . Ayers certainly made the attempt to ask the question..."How do you effectively protest when the government and the media in in lock-step?" Certainly a relevant question today, when the media essentially ignored most protests against the Iraq War.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 12/11/2008
- lisa12345 I'm a Fan of lisa12345 13 fans permalink

I agree, that is an important question because we just don't hear too much about that.
IMO, I thought that these two were reconciling in a way, even though they did not know each other. They were on the same side, yet they were in different camps, it seems.
I think that the people involved in these events during those years have alot to talk about,
when Ayers said that they should maybe have a commission to reconcile that time period it seemed like a step in the right direciton. How much tension between the parties today is due to fallout from that time?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 AM on 12/15/2008
- ssg13565 I'm a Fan of ssg13565 27 fans permalink

> Ayers goes on to say he favors a sort of "truth and reconciliation" moment where everyone
> comes clean about what they did during the Vietnam War. Somehow I think
> Robert McNamara isn't going to see eye to eye with this concept.

You really ought to see the Documentary "The Fog of War", in which Robert McNamara is very candid about his role during that war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 12/11/2008

He wasn't proud of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 12/11/2008
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Bill Ayers, along with THOUSANDS of Nam Protestors were NOT trying to force religion down anyone's throat.

THOUSANDS of Nam Protestors were NOT trying to force religion down anyone's throat.

They were protesting Nixon keeping our soldiers in a Civil War bet. North & South Vietnam ---

They were protesting FOR THE 211,454 dead & wounded US soldiers & the 3000 MIA US soldiers.

They were protesting FOR THE rights of US citizens AGAINST Nixon telling National Guardsmen to shoot protestors during peaceful demonstrations.

They were protesting AGAINST Nixon & Kissingers LIES -- like Bush's lies -- when Nixon lied (about pulling our troops out when he ran for office BOTH TIMES) - people D I E D.

Bill Ayers turned himself in .... was willing to take responsibility for what he had done .... the Feds did not prosecute b/c they botched up the evidence .... Ayers has since committed NO crimes and has become a respected intellectual advancing the community he lives in.

The RED-SCARED crowd can leave now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 12/11/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

By setting B O M B S....this was HIS way to protest. Many people protested the war, but only AYERS and the Underground set bombs.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 12/11/2008

I'm sorry, but the U.S. dropped more bomb tonnage on Vietnam than the whole of that dropped during WWII.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 12/11/2008
- NETarrant I'm a Fan of NETarrant 2 fans permalink

.....Ayers has since committed NO crimes and has become a respected intellectual advancing the community he lives in.....

You make it sound like he's the man everyone wants their kids to grow up like. He's still an unrepentent terrorist and makes no effort to make amends for his actions.

And by the way, there were 58,217 killed in Vietnam not 211,454 and 1,947 missing. Get your facts straight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 12/11/2008

The wounded count as casualties... 211,454 dead & wounded is absolutely accurate. Your posted figure of 58,217 is also an accurate count of those killed. Two different figures because it's not the same thing. Reading what is written is probably important when leveling criticism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 12/11/2008
- stimpy I'm a Fan of stimpy 4 fans permalink

If my children do things young and brash trying to make the world a better place, and they learn from that, I'm okay with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 12/11/2008
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 270 fans permalink

Oooh, a little dose of the ugly truth gets 'em howlin' in the aisles... 'specially them commie-hatin', flag-wavin', knuckle-draggin' tailgaters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 12/11/2008
- simplify I'm a Fan of simplify 35 fans permalink
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Chris Matthews is a charlatan and a hypocrite... no conscience, all about the dollars

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 12/11/2008
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Simple - That's a random BS statement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 12/11/2008

Matthews will flow in whatever direction the wind is blowing. The higher the ratings the better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 12/11/2008
- lisa12345 I'm a Fan of lisa12345 13 fans permalink

IMO, Chris Matthews appeared to be struggling to understand and reconcile, as did Ayers
It was good to see people from different political-ideological perspectives try to find common ground, they both appeared to be trying to the best of their ability and they made some progress. We need more connections like this, yeah I sound like a real peacenik here, ludicrously idealistic
but wouldn't it be great if they really had a truth and reconciliation committee and the two sides worked it out? Until they do, I wonder if the country can ever truly move on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 12/15/2008
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You don't watch television news until it helps you sell books.

You've changed alright - you've become a media celebrity who wants to move units and hawk books. Nothing like a 60's radical who wants to ca$h in after all these years.

November 4 proved it: the baby boomers are morally bankrupt. Go away, please, and take your generic yuppified lives with you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 12/11/2008
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Gas: The baby boomers are NOT going away -- didn't you hear WE WON OVER THE REICHTWINGERS on Nov 4

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 12/11/2008
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Speak for yourself. We, new generations, are glad to have an eyewitness hand down information about such an important era in our history, that we missed. I'm glad to get the perspective of a young rebel, through his books, and be able to put it in the context of a horrible war I can only read about.
I applaud him for exercising such self-restraint during the campaign. Who in the face of such defamation wouldn't want to defend themselves? He has every right to do it now, and if that sells him more books, good for him, that's capitalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 12/11/2008
- Horst I'm a Fan of Horst 24 fans permalink

Matthews and Ayers deserve each other. Ayers looks ridiculous: earring, stubble...and dyed hair. What a phony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 12/11/2008
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Yeah, in America of all places, how dare he exercise his freedom to have an earring, stubble and dyed hair. Outrageous! It's not like we have young men and women in the military fighting and dying for the freedoms - large and small - of all Americans, even those you don't agree with, is it? Oh, wait, YES IT IS. You are the one who's a phony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 12/11/2008
- judyc I'm a Fan of judyc 121 fans permalink
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Agreed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 12/11/2008
- AdamAnt12 I'm a Fan of AdamAnt12 15 fans permalink

Ayers is not worth ONE DROP of our military's b l o o d .....he is a t e r r o r i s t.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 12/11/2008
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What a prude!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 12/11/2008
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Horst,

People who think like YOU do scare me more than people like Bill Ayers do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 12/11/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 152 fans permalink
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lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 12/11/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 152 fans permalink
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Why did you signal out Ayers? Do you, perhaps, harbor a sneaking admiration for Matthews clean cut middle age kit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 12/11/2008
- Wiserone I'm a Fan of Wiserone 11 fans permalink
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Matthews interview with Ayers was what was appalling. Not until way into the interview did Matthews fess up that he had a 'personal' axe to grind with regards to a bomb being placed in a men's bathroom in the Capitol. He was a "rent-a-cop" on the hill and exclaimed: "anyone could have been hurt even ME!!!! at the time". Pretty disingenuous of Matthews to take the approach he did interviewing Ayers. I found Ayers to be sincere and recognizing the error of his ways. Apology accepted. I've even put his book, Fugitive Days, on my holiday list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 12/11/2008
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Do you work for Amazon?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 12/11/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 152 fans permalink
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lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 12/11/2008

Yes, everybody deserves a second chance and Mr. Ayers has done good with his. Mr. Mathews always tries to catch! his guests and reverse wha they say. This time I was very surprised he, Mr. Mathews did not constantly interrupt Mr. Ayers, as he usually does; one of the things Chris Mathews possesses is a BIG EGO, what if it was ME, yes, I agree very much with Wiserone, kudos to you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 12/11/2008
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Matthews is appalling always, period!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 12/11/2008
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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What is wrong with what Matthews said? It's true, the bomb could've easily killed one of the Capitol police (not rent-a-cops as you contemptuously refer to them)). It's only luck that saved them, not Ayers.

And the WU did kill police and security guards.

"But a 1970 pipe bomb in San Francisco attributed to the group killed one police officer and severely hurt another. An accidental 1970 explosion in a Greenwich Village town house basement killed three radicals; survivors later said they had been making nail bombs to detonate at a military dance at Fort Dix in New Jersey. And in 1981, in an armed robbery of a Brinks armored truck in Nanuet, N.Y., that involved Weather Underground members including Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert, two police officers and a Brinks guard were killed.

In his memoir, Mr. Ayers was evasive as to which bombings he had a hand in, writing that "some details cannot be told."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?pagewanted=2&_r=5&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Right--details that can't be told because there's no statute of limitations on murder.

And as Matthews said, there were cops going in and out of that room at the Captiol. It was only due to luck that none were killed

An FBI informant who infiltrated WU says that Ayers/Dohrn set the bombs that killed and injured those police. He said this in testimony to Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 12/11/2008

Wow. Your holiday list! I can only hope you google this guy. Wickipedia this guy. Anything, before you give him your money. Here's a thought. Is there any way money could be sent to the families of the Brinks Truck guards who were murdered by the Weather Underground in the 1980's? Just working-class guys. Not sons of the Chicago establishment. Did their kids get to go to college -- even community college? Meanwhile, the child Ayers raised, got a Rhodes Scholarship!

Yours sincerely,

An upper-middle-class liberal who is sometimes astonished at the insensitivity of my fellow liberals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 12/11/2008
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