Ford Bailout Money Unnecessary, Company Says

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KIMBERLY S. JOHNSON and TOM KRISHER | December 10, 2008 11:54 AM EST | AP

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DEARBORN, Mich. — By shunning government loans, Ford Motor Co.'s top executives say they hope to buff up the automaker's image and set it apart from its cash-starved Detroit competitors, General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC.

GM and Chrysler are in desperate need of government money and may not last until the end of the year without it. But Ford set up $23.5 billion worth of credit in 2006, and both Chief Executive Alan Mulally and Executive Chairman Bill Ford Jr. told The Associated Press on Tuesday they are confident that the borrowing, coupled with restructuring and new product plans, will get them through the recession without relying on the government.

Ford even said the century-old company that bears his family's name might be able to use the independence from loans to its advantage.

"I think if they see Ford as a company trying to pull itself up by its own bootstraps, and making it on its own and pulling the right levers, I think that could be a positive for us," Ford said.

Mulally said Ford has completed much of the restructuring that Congress is demanding of the other two, slimming down its brands by selling Jaguar, Land Rover and Aston Martin and studying the sale of Sweden's Volvo.

Ford, he said, has cut its factory capacity to match demand, and it anticipates no further cuts will be necessary as long as the U.S. auto market doesn't worsen considerably. The company has announced the closure of 17 factories and eliminated 50,000 jobs since 2005, many through buyout and early retirement offers.

The interviews came as weary Democratic congressional leaders cleared the final obstacles to a $15 billion bailout of Chrysler and GM. Congressional officials said Wednesday that majority Democrats and the Bush White House finalized a deal that could go to a vote later that day, although stiff opposition lingered among some Republican lawmakers.

Among the requirements in the Democrats' proposed legislation is the appointment of a "car czar" to oversee Chrysler and GM with authority to yank the loans if the companies don't make substantial progress toward restructuring.

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Both companies are likely to seek further concessions from the United Auto Workers and their creditors in order to justify the government money and prove themselves viable.

But Mulally said Tuesday he would expect the same concessions from the union even though Ford wouldn't be under government supervision.

"The UAW supports the entire industry. They represent employees at all three companies. I can't imagine being disadvantaged on that," Mulally said. "I would think whatever's done on that we would continue to do together because they support all of us."

Mulally appeared before Congress last week with the CEOs of GM and Chrysler, and said he did so to support the other automakers and to line up a government loan just in case the economy worsened and Ford might needed the money in the future. If one or both of the others go into bankruptcy, it could drag down parts suppliers and force Ford into the same situation, Mulally said.

Mike Moran, Ford's Washington, D.C., spokesman, said Wednesday that drafts of the bailout legislation show Ford would not fall under government supervision unless it actually draws on a federal loan.

Ford wants to set up a $9 billion long-term line of credit from the government but would use it only if the U.S. auto market worsens or fails to recover. The company has said it has enough borrowed money to make it through 2009 without government help.

"From our understanding of the drafts that have been shared publicly, a company that is actually borrowing the money would have to comply under the structure and oversight, but Ford has clearly indicated we aren't going to be requesting any short-term bridge loans from the government," Moran said.

He said Ford would comply with all government conditions if it tapped the loans at a later date.

Mulally said that if Congress required him to step down for Ford to get the money, he would comply with the conditions.

But Ford, the executive chairman, said he would be against Mulally leaving, joking that he might rob a bank to keep the executive he hired away from aviation giant Boeing Co. in 2006.

Mulally said that two years ago Ford took its plan _ similar to the one it submitted to Congress last week _ to 40 banks in an effort to get financing to unify its production system and for research and development. It originally estimated a need for $17 billion, but raised additional funds just in case.

"None of us thought it would go as deep as it was going to go and we would have to use it all," Mulally said. "To finance this transformation of Ford on the production system to match demand and get back to profitability, and finance our accelerated product development. That's what led to doing it and doing it at that time."

Ford said the company is trying to take leadership in fuel economy with direct-injection turbocharged engines, new hybrid gas-electric powertrains and eventually electric vehicles. Competitors, including Chrysler, GM, Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co., have or are working on, similar technologies.

"Even when we got into tough times, we kept our R&D spending alive, and it was something that I was personally involved in to make sure we spent in the new technologies that will get us to real modernization," he said.

He said it looks like the country is moving toward electric vehicles as the next generation of transportation, and he called on the government to come up with an energy policy to pick one technology and start building the infrastructure to make it work.

"I don't think we'll ever get the infrastructure built that we need if market forces alone are working. I think that our government has to provide some direction," he said.

Ford also said he'd like to see the government keep gas prices stable with taxes or a floor on crude oil prices so automakers can plan their models better.

Gasoline prices peaked at more than $4 per gallon during the summer but now are well below $2 per gallon in many areas of the country.

"We plan our vehicles three, four, five years in advance," he said. "It makes life very difficult if the market gyrates wildly over the course of several months, and that's exactly what we've seen happen."

DEARBORN, Mich. — By shunning government loans, Ford Motor Co.'s top executives say they hope to buff up the automaker's image and set it apart from its cash-starved Detroit competitors, General...
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- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 610 fans permalink
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So does this mean Ford doesn't want any of the assorted government contracts that have made them stacks of pancakes over the years? I'll believe it when I see it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 12/10/2008
- LauraD I'm a Fan of LauraD 58 fans permalink

What?

Did you even bother to understand, or did you just see an opportunity to complain?

Government contracts are paying for products, and there is nothing wrong with accepting such an arrangement, nor has ANY indication of refusing said contracts been made.

A loan is not even similar to a work contract.

Come back when you have a thought or two.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 12/10/2008
- spinns17 I'm a Fan of spinns17 53 fans permalink

thats because they herd that mike moore is going to be the car czar. lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 12/10/2008

heard?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 12/10/2008
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WTH?! So Ford just showed up at Congressional hearings because they hear the government was giving out free money. This bailout is wrong on so many levels!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 12/10/2008
- ReddzVoice I'm a Fan of ReddzVoice 44 fans permalink
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OMG! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That is hilarious and sad at the same time! Ford was just trying to jump on the bandwagon. LOL!

Peace and love...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 12/10/2008
- Rosewren I'm a Fan of Rosewren 34 fans permalink
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You have missed the point of Ford being there. They were up front that they would not need the money now, but if Gm and Chrysler go down they will pull many of Ford's suppliers down with them as not only Ford but also Toyota, Nissan and other foreign auto companies depend on those same suppliers. This will affect all the auto companies here, plus all these employees usually pay the maximum every year in SS taxes and pay a lot of property taxes, income taxes, etc., this sudden death if they go under has a lot of ramifications on every part of our communities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 12/10/2008

When they showed up the first time, didn't they say that they only wanted to cement their right to have 9 billion in loans if they should need it later next year? I think they have enough funds for most of next year. Plus, they want to show solidarity with GM and Chrysler, and they worry that if there is a major bankruptcy, the part suppliers might go out of business. Ford would probably prosper if one of the other two went belly up, but if it took the suppliers with it, everyone (even Honda) would suffer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 12/10/2008

I currently reside in Spain and there are plenty of great American vehicles here, most of which you can't find in the States. Ford, Chevy and Opel (owned by GM) have a large market share here because they are supplying the end user with a product they desire - small, reliable, stylish, fuel efficient vehicles. Why here and not in the USA? Because Europeans have always demanded these type of vehicles due to the higher gas prices and smaller roads/parking spaces.

The majority of US consumers are just now coming around to desiring small, fuel efficient vehicles. Large (thus inefficient) vehicles were what US consumers were buying for the past 20 years because that is what they wanted. Hence, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mercedes, etc., etc. all offering similar products in the USA that you could not find elsewhere in the world. And why not, there is a lot higher profit margin in these type of vehicles.

Some blame is obviously on the shoulders of US automakers. But it is pure economics: until the demand changes the supply will remain the same. Nobody saw such a dramatic change coming. Even Toyota recently built a brand new factory to build trucks and SUVs in the States, hedging their bets that demand for these type of vehicles would remain high.

Everyone who is being so cynical should take a look at the reality of how we (US automakers and US consumers) got here and learn from our mistakes together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 12/10/2008

sjtesp, Posilutely,your comment is spot on.In the 70s Volvo a Ford partner(subsidiary?) had a prototype called the XP wagon. It was a multifuel diesel that got over 100 mpg on a gallon of diesel ,or any vegetable oil right out of the bottle with no conversion needed .Volvo decided that there was no export market and that Americans all wanted V8 turbos.I guess the executive vice presidents got to use the prototypes to commute ,and they loved them.No R.+D. needed ,40 year old technology.
peace

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 12/10/2008
- Rashnak I'm a Fan of Rashnak 5 fans permalink

I tried to verify this 100 mpg car- no info on google. Like like all 100 mpg claims, this one is bogus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 12/10/2008
- c1ee I'm a Fan of c1ee 4 fans permalink

Good point. I am in Sydney, and I hold German built Fords like the Focus and Festiva in the highest regard, and will have no qualms of buying one in the future. If the Americans continue to be happy buying crappy cars, I will continue to avoid American built cars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 12/10/2008
- ccbb I'm a Fan of ccbb permalink

actually fuel efficient cars like the electric car were deliberately killed in this country.
Shell has tried to introduce diiferrent more efficient fuel solution in the US, like it hs globally- but regulations prevent them from developing the technology here.

In spite of people on NPR calling in and asking about better more fuel efficient cars around the globe and why they were not made here- the executive from one of the big 3 beig interviewed stated American driving habits would not support such vehicles- so they plan to keep doing what they are doing. This is the arrogance that has run them into financial trouble- they are not listening to what we want in a car, and even with hands out for a loan- they still do not get it. Big money and strong lobbys have manipulated the market here in the US.
We still need big vehicles on the market- there are a lot of small businesses, rural areas, etc- but the average commuter travels less than 40 miles a day- where are the American options that get >40 miles a gallon or are electric? Why the slow incremental increase in technology for fuel efficiency in the US, when it already exists in other countries?

I want to save the jobs, but these companies need to be forced to make smart decisions- Ford obviously managed to be smart without the bailout and now is stronger financially. So no bailout unless they have a viable plan-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 12/11/2008

"Quality is job 1". I love my Mustang convertible - absolutely no problems. The next car - a FORD Edge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 12/10/2008

I had a series of Ford/Mazda products from two Navajos, two Rangersand two Tributes. Each were quality products built in Kansas City by union workers.

This is so doable.

That the right wing senate republicans from "right to work" (no right to unionize) Deep South anti-worker we-have-been bribed by Japanese automakers with factories in our states and we would love to help their Asian masters take complete control of the American market, and get a two-fer by throwing millions of democrats in the midwest out of work...does not surprise me in the least.

Sen. Shelby should be arrested for treason.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 12/10/2008
- mtflyer I'm a Fan of mtflyer 8 fans permalink

Right on track! Bravo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 12/10/2008
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 64 fans permalink
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It's a show of either disarray, abuse and arrogance that they went begging the taxpayer when they didn't need to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 12/10/2008

Ford showed up with the other guys just in case the rumor about the giveaway of giant sacks of no strings attached cash was true. Since they are passing on the 'strings' they get to keep flying around in their private jets and enjoy all the perks, while the other shmucks have to drive around in their own rotten cars!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 12/10/2008
- Rosewren I'm a Fan of Rosewren 34 fans permalink
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GM's Tundra was Green Car of the year and Gm has 10 vehicles that get better mileage than your foreign cars, you don't know what you are talking about!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 12/10/2008
- Razz I'm a Fan of Razz 2 fans permalink

I guess they just wanted the money for their F@$KING FAT CAT CEO’s as bonuses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 12/10/2008
- kstuff I'm a Fan of kstuff 5 fans permalink

I'm all for selling the Lions. It'll never happen. We've been hoping and praying for 50 years now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 12/10/2008

Wasn't Ford more or less the least dire of the 3 and was the one where the bailout the least necessary? Yeah that's what I thought........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 12/10/2008
- SammyD I'm a Fan of SammyD 11 fans permalink

i will buy a Ford before I'll ever buy a Bailout Buggy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 12/10/2008

Here we have People that put our nation in debt for Trillions of Dollars (with no Viable plan to get us out) yelling at Corporate execs over begging for a few billion in loans.

nice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 12/10/2008

If it werent for the failure of Congress to get the Financial services firms to start loaning money to each other, and commercial and private customers again, this wouldnt have occured at all.

The big3 had a very tiny marginal annual decline in market share due to competition. Not because no one wanted what they have. They still had 49% as of this summer. And were steadily increasing market share in China.

Every single Foreign car company has experienced the EXACT same drop in sales over the past 2-3 months that the Big3 have. Toyota down 34%, Nissan down 37% in November. Cars piling up at the California and Florida Port authorities because domestic and foreign dealers dont want them yet.

The big difference? The European, Japanese and Korean car companies are getting lots of loans from THEIR governments. Apparently they dont have a bunch of Propagandizing Republicans in their congress acting like stupid children with no concept of what failure would bring us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 12/10/2008
- OhgReaTone I'm a Fan of OhgReaTone 10 fans permalink

These folks at Ford are smart enough to realize that making a deal with the devil will only reap short term dividends. .....................

http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/12/10/why-government-management-of-auto-companies-will-not-work/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 12/10/2008
- WhiteHat I'm a Fan of WhiteHat 12 fans permalink

"I think if they see Ford as a company trying to pull itself up by its own bootstraps, and making it on its own and pulling the right levers, I think that could be a positive for us," Ford said.

Note to Ford: Your customers don’t care about you, they care about cars.

To Do:
A. Get the right cars to the right markets at the right time.
B. Make good cars. Strive for the best rating in reliability, safety, handling, efficiency and creature comforts at every price point.
C. Make sure customers know how good your cars are. Develop a good image for your cars, not your corporate financial picture, not your consumer financing, not some rahrah about nationality.

Consumer demand is your primary concern, everything else is secondary. If we (A) want a car, we’ll find a way to buy it. If we think your cars are junk (B), then anything else you say about them (C) is irrelevant. Try this for a change: assume that customers aren't stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 12/10/2008

If the Congress succeeds in killing off the American based car industry (and the country ever comes out of the accompanying Depression), wait until you see the price you will have to pay for your precious foreign cars. There will be no need to keep prices in check - if all you can buy is a Honda or Toyota, you may find yourself paying the equivalent of a BMW for something the size of a FIT. We have always driven American cars, and even with the Ford Focus we just bought, we still liked it better than anything else we looked at (all foreign).

I assume customers are stupid - that they will think that as long as their job is still good NOW, that watching millions of Americans lose theirs won't ripple thru the economy. When we have another 3 millions people who are trying to survive on unemployment (and won't be going out to be brain surgeons the next week), we will find out what trashing American industry gets you. BROKE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 12/10/2008
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