Ford Bailout Money Unnecessary, Company Says

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KIMBERLY S. JOHNSON and TOM KRISHER | December 10, 2008 11:54 AM EST | AP

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DEARBORN, Mich. — By shunning government loans, Ford Motor Co.'s top executives say they hope to buff up the automaker's image and set it apart from its cash-starved Detroit competitors, General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC.

GM and Chrysler are in desperate need of government money and may not last until the end of the year without it. But Ford set up $23.5 billion worth of credit in 2006, and both Chief Executive Alan Mulally and Executive Chairman Bill Ford Jr. told The Associated Press on Tuesday they are confident that the borrowing, coupled with restructuring and new product plans, will get them through the recession without relying on the government.

Ford even said the century-old company that bears his family's name might be able to use the independence from loans to its advantage.

"I think if they see Ford as a company trying to pull itself up by its own bootstraps, and making it on its own and pulling the right levers, I think that could be a positive for us," Ford said.

Mulally said Ford has completed much of the restructuring that Congress is demanding of the other two, slimming down its brands by selling Jaguar, Land Rover and Aston Martin and studying the sale of Sweden's Volvo.

Ford, he said, has cut its factory capacity to match demand, and it anticipates no further cuts will be necessary as long as the U.S. auto market doesn't worsen considerably. The company has announced the closure of 17 factories and eliminated 50,000 jobs since 2005, many through buyout and early retirement offers.

The interviews came as weary Democratic congressional leaders cleared the final obstacles to a $15 billion bailout of Chrysler and GM. Congressional officials said Wednesday that majority Democrats and the Bush White House finalized a deal that could go to a vote later that day, although stiff opposition lingered among some Republican lawmakers.

Among the requirements in the Democrats' proposed legislation is the appointment of a "car czar" to oversee Chrysler and GM with authority to yank the loans if the companies don't make substantial progress toward restructuring.

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Both companies are likely to seek further concessions from the United Auto Workers and their creditors in order to justify the government money and prove themselves viable.

But Mulally said Tuesday he would expect the same concessions from the union even though Ford wouldn't be under government supervision.

"The UAW supports the entire industry. They represent employees at all three companies. I can't imagine being disadvantaged on that," Mulally said. "I would think whatever's done on that we would continue to do together because they support all of us."

Mulally appeared before Congress last week with the CEOs of GM and Chrysler, and said he did so to support the other automakers and to line up a government loan just in case the economy worsened and Ford might needed the money in the future. If one or both of the others go into bankruptcy, it could drag down parts suppliers and force Ford into the same situation, Mulally said.

Mike Moran, Ford's Washington, D.C., spokesman, said Wednesday that drafts of the bailout legislation show Ford would not fall under government supervision unless it actually draws on a federal loan.

Ford wants to set up a $9 billion long-term line of credit from the government but would use it only if the U.S. auto market worsens or fails to recover. The company has said it has enough borrowed money to make it through 2009 without government help.

"From our understanding of the drafts that have been shared publicly, a company that is actually borrowing the money would have to comply under the structure and oversight, but Ford has clearly indicated we aren't going to be requesting any short-term bridge loans from the government," Moran said.

He said Ford would comply with all government conditions if it tapped the loans at a later date.

Mulally said that if Congress required him to step down for Ford to get the money, he would comply with the conditions.

But Ford, the executive chairman, said he would be against Mulally leaving, joking that he might rob a bank to keep the executive he hired away from aviation giant Boeing Co. in 2006.

Mulally said that two years ago Ford took its plan _ similar to the one it submitted to Congress last week _ to 40 banks in an effort to get financing to unify its production system and for research and development. It originally estimated a need for $17 billion, but raised additional funds just in case.

"None of us thought it would go as deep as it was going to go and we would have to use it all," Mulally said. "To finance this transformation of Ford on the production system to match demand and get back to profitability, and finance our accelerated product development. That's what led to doing it and doing it at that time."

Ford said the company is trying to take leadership in fuel economy with direct-injection turbocharged engines, new hybrid gas-electric powertrains and eventually electric vehicles. Competitors, including Chrysler, GM, Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co., have or are working on, similar technologies.

"Even when we got into tough times, we kept our R&D spending alive, and it was something that I was personally involved in to make sure we spent in the new technologies that will get us to real modernization," he said.

He said it looks like the country is moving toward electric vehicles as the next generation of transportation, and he called on the government to come up with an energy policy to pick one technology and start building the infrastructure to make it work.

"I don't think we'll ever get the infrastructure built that we need if market forces alone are working. I think that our government has to provide some direction," he said.

Ford also said he'd like to see the government keep gas prices stable with taxes or a floor on crude oil prices so automakers can plan their models better.

Gasoline prices peaked at more than $4 per gallon during the summer but now are well below $2 per gallon in many areas of the country.

"We plan our vehicles three, four, five years in advance," he said. "It makes life very difficult if the market gyrates wildly over the course of several months, and that's exactly what we've seen happen."

DEARBORN, Mich. — By shunning government loans, Ford Motor Co.'s top executives say they hope to buff up the automaker's image and set it apart from its cash-starved Detroit competitors, General...
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Ford joined the other two to see if they can get easy credit and to make sure the other two survive somehow (preferably hobbling) because parts and engine suppliers cannot survive on Ford business alone. It's to Ford's advantage to have more suppliers competing for their business than fewer ones that can dictate their terms to Ford. Also, now Ford tends to benefit from the perception that they're here to stay compared to the competition; and the patriotic conservative consumer who would favor them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 12/10/2008

Bingo, we have a winner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 12/10/2008
- Belisarius I'm a Fan of Belisarius 31 fans permalink
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article: "Big 3 Want Electric Car Companies Left-Out Of Federal Bail Out"

link: http://www.autoracingdaily.com/news/alternative-fuel/big-3-want-electric-car-companies-left-out-of-federal-bail-out/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 12/10/2008

Boo hoo, cry me a freaking river. A company that sells its car for 120K doesn't NEED a bail out. They are, by definition, a luxury car and a niche one at that.

Come back and talk to us when Tesla can make a car that costs 20K. Til then... buh bye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 12/10/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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Ford should sell the Lions and invest the profit in the Auto business. Wait, forget it, nobody would buy them anyway...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 12/10/2008
- indymaggie I'm a Fan of indymaggie 5 fans permalink

It's all nonsense that American cars are inferior. have a 2 1/2 year Ford Focus. Never a problem. None. Mileage is great. My son has a Ford Explorer. Never a problem. It is all perception. And papers like the NY Times help this perception by never writing about an American car. I check the Sunday car section and all they write glowingly only about foreign cars. Guess they get a kickback. And of course your mechanic is going to say "your Ford is a piece of ___" because then they can charge more and find more things wrong with yout car. I would rather have a big American motor between me and accident anytime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 12/10/2008
- dryrock I'm a Fan of dryrock 5 fans permalink
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It is not total nonsense, but it is mostly nonsense, I agree. GM has shown little concern past their quarterly P&E. The people at Chrysler seem rudderless.

Ford quality, however, is now within the MoE of most imports. They simply have not been promoting their recent successes effectively, so few people know, and Ford is lumped in with the old and true belief that american cars are largely unreliable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 12/10/2008
- 700rpm I'm a Fan of 700rpm 6 fans permalink

Old joke from the 20's: FORD: Fix Or Repair Daily.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 12/10/2008
- BearsLeft I'm a Fan of BearsLeft 10 fans permalink

You're just not spinning as fast as you used to, are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 12/10/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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"Found Off Road Dead"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 12/10/2008

Kudos to Ford for not needing or taking the money - it makes them look like a much better company.
BUT, why did they go to Washington and appear at the meetings?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 12/10/2008

Because they would take easy money if it was available?

Congress has been handing it out to anyone asking. Many of the banks didn't need money but the loan at those rates was an offer they couldn't refuse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 12/10/2008
- mjc I'm a Fan of mjc 10 fans permalink

Found On the Road Dead!??? How can anyone go through 2 or 3 transmissions? Guess you have to buy an American car to know. Think this is Ford's way of saying, "We ain't going to have to take orders from you guys!" I've driven Volvos, Datsuns, and Nissans for the past 50 years or so and driven them into the ground. The best mileage was 225,000 on a Nissan. American dealers want your money every 2 or 3 years and if they don't get it the repair bills will take care of that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 12/10/2008

Try reading Consumer Reports reliability rankings. Ford is above 50% across the board, almost equal to Japanese manufacturers.

I've never bought a US made car, but their reliability isn't what it used to be, it's much much better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 12/10/2008

My 20 year old Volvo has 250,000 miles on it and it's still going strong. My last car a 1974 Beetle I drove for 17 years and literally until it was about to split apart (someone bought it and was going to weld it back together).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 12/10/2008
- CR46 I'm a Fan of CR46 221 fans permalink

Volvo is owned and operated by Ford Motor Company! lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 12/10/2008

I too drive a Volvo, a 99 with 110K and still drives and looks like a new car. That said, I like Fords, have driven Fords, and would own a Ford again. Yes, Ford does own Volvo. Unfortunately, they are trying to sell it. They saved Jaguar but have had to sell that too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 12/10/2008

Mulally was specifically hired to come in and help Ford shake out the entrenched attitudes at FMC. He's doing just that, which is why FMC is in better shape than either of the other two.

Ford is right to keep Mulally. Any congress critter who thinks otherwise is just showing they have ZERO clue.

I also find it ironic that the Repubse are opposing this bail out, not because its some fundamental philosophy of "free market", or because having the government intervene in the operations of a business, but rather because the Car Czar doesn't have ENOUGH authority to meddle in the company's day to day managment. Yes... it's the Repubes who are the Socialists. The mask has completely come off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 12/10/2008
- Chbronze I'm a Fan of Chbronze 6 fans permalink

I think the bailout is wrong, and the "car czar" is wrong. My business stands or folds based on how we do our job, not government subsidies or loans. Congress could not even run its own cafeteria at a profit, and had to bring in a private contractor to keep it open. Why would we turn over anymore responsibility to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 12/10/2008

I would guess that your business doesn't cary over one million jobs with it if it goes under. I agree that Congress shouldn't have anything to do with running any car company.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 12/10/2008
- prog I'm a Fan of prog 17 fans permalink
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Consumer Reports has been telling the tale of inferior American cars for many, many years in its objective ratings of cars. It's just the numbers-- most American cars fail early, have a bad repair record, and just can't compete. This isn't new news to anyone who's been reading CR since the 70s. My American-car buying dad had to reluctantly admit in the 80s that my choice of a Toyota was the only sane thing to do when it came to buying an economy car with good gas mileage, because the American cars available had such bad track records.

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 12/10/2008

I've owned domestic cars all of my driving life-I've never had problems with any of them.And I've owned them for many years. I've owned 1 Japanese car and it was no better than my Ford's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 12/10/2008
- Toby Barlow - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Toby Barlow 26 fans permalink

It's great that you've been reading Consumer Reports since the 70's. But looking for a car this year might find this interesting:

"Ford’s reliability is now on par with good Japanese automakers.”
Consumer Reports 2008

for more:

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/10/ford_reliability_closes_in_on.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 12/10/2008
- BearsLeft I'm a Fan of BearsLeft 10 fans permalink

Took the post right out of my mouth!

We've had 6 new Fords, or Mazdas made in Ford plants, since 1991. No major problems with any of them, and only a few minor problems. I currently drive an '06 Escape Hybrid that has 40K on the clock and nothing but oil changes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 12/10/2008
- geoff74024 I'm a Fan of geoff74024 3 fans permalink

If you read Consumer Reports this year you will find that Ford is now equal to Toyota in quality and Ford has had more models earn the highest quality awards in at least five car classes. While it is true that in the past American cars were not equal in quality, the MOST RECENT findings by Consumer Reports statistically indicate that Ford has closed the gap. Ford cars are equal in quality. It's the perception that is lagging.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 12/10/2008

Ford's quality issues have become a thing of the past as Mr. Barlow noted in his post. I've driven Fords for 20 years and haven't ever had a breakdown. My family currently has two 07 Focus' and a 06 Escape and all are in fine working order. Give real American cars a chance again and you might be pleasantly surprised.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 12/10/2008
- mkw408 I'm a Fan of mkw408 2 fans permalink

I've owned two new Fords. One was a Taurus SHO in 1996 and I went through 2 transmissions and numerous other issues. The second is a 2004 Ford Explorer. I am on the 3rd Transmission on this one. Just the other day it got stuck in 4x4 low. Never touched the 4x4 button. I wish it would catch on fire and go away.

I would rather buy Yugo than a Ford. Biggest pieces of junk ever made.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 12/10/2008
- drsmc41 I'm a Fan of drsmc41 3 fans permalink

LOL. "I would rather by a Yugo than a Ford..." Now, that's a statement. I was going to say that I am impressed with Ford's decision....:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 12/10/2008
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There's an old bumper sticker that reads, "Friends Don't Let Friends Buy Fords".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 12/10/2008

There's another old bumper sticker-Out of a job?Eat your Japanese car.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 12/10/2008
- cafemocha I'm a Fan of cafemocha 14 fans permalink

After the republicans have ripped off a $700 Billion giveaway for the financial meltdown mess they caused, I don't mind a $15 Billion loan to American automakers to see if they will get their act together. And back to hellllll with those 2 Alabama senators pretending they are wise nobel economists, skilled CEOs, and fortune tellers with their lectures and posturing against American auto companies. It's about time those senators and their constituents feel the pain of their actions, so I'm boycotting Hyundai cars and Toyota trucks - my dad and sister for starters will not be considering cars from Alabama for their new purchase in '09! Nor will anyone I know after I'm done talking with them. In other words, senators, noway on your Hyundai cars and Toyota trucks, not on my family...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 12/10/2008
- Strywever I'm a Fan of Strywever 28 fans permalink

This is more like the Alan Mulally I knew at Boeing! Now if only he'll push for cars that don't have obsolescence built into them. We've owned one Ford, which is the only car we ever bought new -- purchased in 1996. Sure enough, it worked great until the 100K-mile warranty expired shortly after we passed it on to our daughter -- then everything fell apart, starting with the transmission. Replacement car for daughter was a used Honda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 12/10/2008
- WasteNJ I'm a Fan of WasteNJ 28 fans permalink
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Sounds like Ford realized that they'd rather call their own shots than have a "car-czar" looking over their shoulder. That and the fact that they really didn't need the money. I'm sure they just showed up to congress twice to show solidarity with their competitors... yeah right. Ford plans to play up the fact that their company is stronger, and therefore, a better choice when buying a new vehicle. Pretty smart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 12/10/2008
- Rosey I'm a Fan of Rosey 6 fans permalink

If Ford does NOT need bailout money, why were they asking for it in the first place? DUH.......all kinds of responses can go after that line..... I leave it to others to fill in.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 12/10/2008
- findmind I'm a Fan of findmind 7 fans permalink
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if you had actually read the article, you would have known they they had aked for a line of credit..in case the other 2 go bankrupt and take their suppliers with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 12/10/2008

Yes, Part and engine suppliers cannot survive on Ford business alone; it's to Ford's advantage to have more suppliers competing for their business than fewer ones that can dictate their terms to Ford. Also, now Ford tends to benefit from the perception that they're here to stay compared to the competition; and the patriotic conservative consumer who would favor them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 12/10/2008

Learn 2 Read?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 12/10/2008
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Good for you Ford! I think they're smart and being true to their nature as capitalists and businessmen, which I respect. They'd rather take their chances against the two other companies that are bleeding to death and about to accept a bandaid that requires a committee to discuss it's replacement. Smart move.

This Auto industry bailout sounds horribly ill-conceived and this is coming from a hard core BHO supporter, who's also owned her own businesses and knows having some entity that doesn't know about your business making internal decisions is a sure path to frustration and likely path to failure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 12/10/2008
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