Ford Bailout Money Unnecessary, Company Says

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KIMBERLY S. JOHNSON and TOM KRISHER | December 10, 2008 11:54 AM EST | AP

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DEARBORN, Mich. — By shunning government loans, Ford Motor Co.'s top executives say they hope to buff up the automaker's image and set it apart from its cash-starved Detroit competitors, General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC.

GM and Chrysler are in desperate need of government money and may not last until the end of the year without it. But Ford set up $23.5 billion worth of credit in 2006, and both Chief Executive Alan Mulally and Executive Chairman Bill Ford Jr. told The Associated Press on Tuesday they are confident that the borrowing, coupled with restructuring and new product plans, will get them through the recession without relying on the government.

Ford even said the century-old company that bears his family's name might be able to use the independence from loans to its advantage.

"I think if they see Ford as a company trying to pull itself up by its own bootstraps, and making it on its own and pulling the right levers, I think that could be a positive for us," Ford said.

Mulally said Ford has completed much of the restructuring that Congress is demanding of the other two, slimming down its brands by selling Jaguar, Land Rover and Aston Martin and studying the sale of Sweden's Volvo.

Ford, he said, has cut its factory capacity to match demand, and it anticipates no further cuts will be necessary as long as the U.S. auto market doesn't worsen considerably. The company has announced the closure of 17 factories and eliminated 50,000 jobs since 2005, many through buyout and early retirement offers.

The interviews came as weary Democratic congressional leaders cleared the final obstacles to a $15 billion bailout of Chrysler and GM. Congressional officials said Wednesday that majority Democrats and the Bush White House finalized a deal that could go to a vote later that day, although stiff opposition lingered among some Republican lawmakers.

Among the requirements in the Democrats' proposed legislation is the appointment of a "car czar" to oversee Chrysler and GM with authority to yank the loans if the companies don't make substantial progress toward restructuring.

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Both companies are likely to seek further concessions from the United Auto Workers and their creditors in order to justify the government money and prove themselves viable.

But Mulally said Tuesday he would expect the same concessions from the union even though Ford wouldn't be under government supervision.

"The UAW supports the entire industry. They represent employees at all three companies. I can't imagine being disadvantaged on that," Mulally said. "I would think whatever's done on that we would continue to do together because they support all of us."

Mulally appeared before Congress last week with the CEOs of GM and Chrysler, and said he did so to support the other automakers and to line up a government loan just in case the economy worsened and Ford might needed the money in the future. If one or both of the others go into bankruptcy, it could drag down parts suppliers and force Ford into the same situation, Mulally said.

Mike Moran, Ford's Washington, D.C., spokesman, said Wednesday that drafts of the bailout legislation show Ford would not fall under government supervision unless it actually draws on a federal loan.

Ford wants to set up a $9 billion long-term line of credit from the government but would use it only if the U.S. auto market worsens or fails to recover. The company has said it has enough borrowed money to make it through 2009 without government help.

"From our understanding of the drafts that have been shared publicly, a company that is actually borrowing the money would have to comply under the structure and oversight, but Ford has clearly indicated we aren't going to be requesting any short-term bridge loans from the government," Moran said.

He said Ford would comply with all government conditions if it tapped the loans at a later date.

Mulally said that if Congress required him to step down for Ford to get the money, he would comply with the conditions.

But Ford, the executive chairman, said he would be against Mulally leaving, joking that he might rob a bank to keep the executive he hired away from aviation giant Boeing Co. in 2006.

Mulally said that two years ago Ford took its plan _ similar to the one it submitted to Congress last week _ to 40 banks in an effort to get financing to unify its production system and for research and development. It originally estimated a need for $17 billion, but raised additional funds just in case.

"None of us thought it would go as deep as it was going to go and we would have to use it all," Mulally said. "To finance this transformation of Ford on the production system to match demand and get back to profitability, and finance our accelerated product development. That's what led to doing it and doing it at that time."

Ford said the company is trying to take leadership in fuel economy with direct-injection turbocharged engines, new hybrid gas-electric powertrains and eventually electric vehicles. Competitors, including Chrysler, GM, Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co., have or are working on, similar technologies.

"Even when we got into tough times, we kept our R&D spending alive, and it was something that I was personally involved in to make sure we spent in the new technologies that will get us to real modernization," he said.

He said it looks like the country is moving toward electric vehicles as the next generation of transportation, and he called on the government to come up with an energy policy to pick one technology and start building the infrastructure to make it work.

"I don't think we'll ever get the infrastructure built that we need if market forces alone are working. I think that our government has to provide some direction," he said.

Ford also said he'd like to see the government keep gas prices stable with taxes or a floor on crude oil prices so automakers can plan their models better.

Gasoline prices peaked at more than $4 per gallon during the summer but now are well below $2 per gallon in many areas of the country.

"We plan our vehicles three, four, five years in advance," he said. "It makes life very difficult if the market gyrates wildly over the course of several months, and that's exactly what we've seen happen."

DEARBORN, Mich. — By shunning government loans, Ford Motor Co.'s top executives say they hope to buff up the automaker's image and set it apart from its cash-starved Detroit competitors, General...
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- Rosey I'm a Fan of Rosey 6 fans permalink

Is this because they won't dump the chump who lead the company into bankruptcy? Sure, keep him on and keep building cars for yeterdays needs. Chapter 11 would do this company good!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 12/10/2008

There is no possible way you actually read the article and then posted that........right?

They are building the cars that people are asking to buy. It's really not complicated.

Also the "chump" you speak of is probably one of the best things to happen to Ford. If you had spent even 10 minutes doing some research you would have learned that instead of posting absolute nonsense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 12/10/2008
- BearsLeft I'm a Fan of BearsLeft 10 fans permalink

Rosey seems to personify the "jerk" portion of knee-jerk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 12/10/2008

Why not do some research (like reading the Damn article) before you post. Mulally did not lead the company into bankruptcy. Quite the opposite. In the 2 years he has been at Ford he has lead Ford to cast off many of the old counterproductive policies and procedures that were killing it. He has simply been the best of the Big 3 CEOs. He came from Boeing where defects mean crashes. Ford's quality has inproved to be on par with Toyota and Honda. Mulally has also been the driving force behind bringing the best Ford products to the USA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 12/10/2008
- Choicelady I'm a Fan of Choicelady 74 fans permalink

I've driven nothing but American made cars and have loved each and every one of them. My biggest worry has been the decline of availability of smaller, fuel-efficient models since I will NOT sacrifice gas mileage with an SUV, even when prices are down. I have a Saturn (though have lost ALL dealers and thus service in my area) that gets 40 mpg on the open road at 65 mph. Why? Can't say for sure - keep it tuned, keep tires inflated, don't lead foot. It has close to 100,000 miles on it, no serious problems. I had a Cavalier wagon that was a workhorse - 110,000 when I gave it to a friend, and prior to that had a Chevette that got highly abused and kept on ticking - 125,000 when I traded it in. It had survived a side hit by a red light runner and did not even break glass while the offender was totaled. Now that's a CAR! American workers are the salt of the earth - I would not dream of buying cars they did not, in large part, make. I am technically an upper middle class white collar person, but I have my roots in the world of blue collar folks, and it is FOR THEM that I support this line of credit and hopes for a renewed auto industry and reinvigorated union. We ALL benefit when they prosper! And I get GREAT cars as a result.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 12/10/2008
- WasteNJ I'm a Fan of WasteNJ 29 fans permalink
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Never heard the Chevette and Cavalier described as great cars, but they did run forever. But what do I know, I still have an 88 Chrysler Conquest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 12/10/2008

Your Conquest is a Mitsubishi.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 12/10/2008
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I have owned GM, Nissan, Chrysler, Ford, and Toyota. I have driven for considerable amounts of time so many different cars and they all have their quirks and attributes. Fords tend to be very steady vehicles. Nothing flashy or trendy or "vogue". In general I would trust a Ford with my kids or my wife more than I would most other brands. Ford will always be number 2 - steady, ready and able. I like the Japanese cars and the American cars. The German vehicles get by on a fading reputation which is comparable to the Republican are good for business horse pucky. GM ALWAYS makes a top notch product. Please note the absence of a plural. They make a singular high quality product and then have derivatives spiraling down in quality. Very Republican business model.

Ford is making a mistake here. They need the help. The number of suppliers who will fail in 2009 will impact the OEM's ability to crawl out of this crap. There is only room for one American OEM and only if they begin to bring all their production under control which means they will have to acquire suppliers.

Those suppliers that are left in the US will align themselves with anyone but the big 3.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 12/10/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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"They make a singular high quality product and then have derivatives spiraling down in quality. Very Republican business model."

Exactly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 12/10/2008

My recommendation to you. Buy a German car. Not one of the American made cars I have owened ever made it passed 125k. Yet every German car I owned has made it passed 300k.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 12/10/2008
- WasteNJ I'm a Fan of WasteNJ 29 fans permalink
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Not a problem if you're willing to pay double for parts. I assume you are excluding VW/Audi from this recommendation? Reliable, they are not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 12/10/2008
- trinity I'm a Fan of trinity 11 fans permalink

My Saturn sedan had over 200K when I traded it in this year for a new Saturn. It ran fine, and Saturn turned around and put it back on their lot (and sold it two weeks afterward). I never had to have any major work done on it. I remember I had a hand-me-down Ford Escort station wagon in the 80s that I drove into the ground (as any teenager would) at a little over 200K. Sure there are crappy American cars, just like there are crappy foreign cars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 12/10/2008

I had a 92 Mustang that made it passed 200K. Even had a party for it. Had some minor transmission work, but apart from some cooling hoses, starters and such this low-horsepower, uncool styled vehicle never had issue hard starting in the Minneapolis winters. Woo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 12/10/2008
- BearsLeft I'm a Fan of BearsLeft 10 fans permalink

My buddy has an '05 Benz that he'd love to get rid of. Worst junk he's driven in 25 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 12/10/2008

This is why I bought thousands of shares if Ford at $1.20. And when they hit $7-$10 after Chrysler dies, I'll be, like all my other evil friends, sitting pretty.

By the way, what wage concession has the WAU given up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 12/10/2008
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Ford needs to scrap all those high-end foreign nameplates for sure, but they also need to think about dumping Lincoln and ESPECIALLY Mercury from their product line. That would get rid of two albatrosses and make Ford a leaner and more viable company.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 12/10/2008

I've owned several Ford cars and never had a problem with one of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 12/10/2008
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I'm currently working in the auto industry and I can tell you, Ford's reliability is an industry joke. When my boss (a former Ford exec) hear that Mullaly was driving a hybrid Escape to Washington, his remark was "he'll need to stop and get the 'check engine light' checked twice before he gets there. Real or percieved, Ford is fighting a battle with reliability.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 12/10/2008
- Keith52 I'm a Fan of Keith52 39 fans permalink
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Pass? Like we were begging them to take a boatload of cash... I had dates like that in high school. (You want to give it to me don't you... don't you!!! Never mind I'll pass...)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 12/10/2008
- mgy I'm a Fan of mgy permalink

I too am a little upset with these senators with a TWANG in their voice. RICHARD SHELBY is a lacky for those foreign automakers that he got huge tax incentives so they could come to his state. That is his job, but he doesn't need to take down the rest of the US in doing so.

I am glad to see some of the comments regarding, at least Ford, when consumers talk about their next purchase. The reality is that many people are still living 30 years ago when it come to quality. Yes, they were behind, but now, Ford is certainly one of the leaders when it comes to quality and safety.

I think they have seen the light and let's give them a chance. BUY FORD!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 12/10/2008
- findmind I'm a Fan of findmind 7 fans permalink
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I agree completely..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 12/10/2008

Did it ever dawn on you that perhaps Senator Shelby sees this "bailout" for what it is?

Congress is NOT "bailing out" the Big Three, they're shuffling more of OUR money to private equity firms that have lost their @$$es in the mortgage market. Read. PLEASE?!?!?!

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2008/02/24/cerberus_problems_deepen_amid_chrysler_gmac_woes/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 12/10/2008
- mkw408 I'm a Fan of mkw408 3 fans permalink
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The light they are seeing is the check engine light. Ford's quality is pathetic. The only people I have known with a Ford that isn't a problem is their Mustang's and some of the trucks. The two Ford's I have owned both had multiple transmission issues. I didn't drive them hard and each one is from the last two decades. 96 and 04

Junk. Ford needs to change their name to FAIL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 12/10/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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Let the automakers go through bankruptcy. They can restructure. This means shed debt they have, concerning people who need to be paid, people whose families are averse to being hungry and cold. Bankruptcy, considered good for automakers, but now no longer available for individuals as it once was.

Bear Stearns, AIG, Fannie, Freddie, et al are too big to fail. Johnny Applesauce and Suzy Danish -- we will pray for yowl.

Can you not just smell the revolutionary aspect of the times in the air? The auto industry cannot afford to fail either because it employs millions of people and pays millions more in terms of benefits. Yet the Snuffiluffigans (the Republicans) say let it restructure. Its’ business model is not viable; a classic case of selective remedies. Let the current system of capitalism fail and restructure because it is not a viable model for taking care of the serious business of providing an environment where people are allowed to flourish fairly on a sustained basis. This horse runs because of greed. Greed is the driving force for raw capitalism. Thus you have caveat emptor, which says we intend to maximize profit, we intend to steal, and our defense every time we are caught stealing is always a looping loop hole around the viability of a nations’ future, death by a thousand legal actions, or a claim of -- “We didn’t know”, or the ambiguity in law defense.

Consistency dear people of politics -- goose and gander is the call.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 12/10/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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The revolutionary aspect of this discussion of bankruptcy, bailout, broken government, catastrophic financial loss, death of financial and industrial behemoths, and the public flogging of captain’s of industry, is the opportunity to be revolutionary in approach to digging out of this collapsed maze of confusion, delusion, corruption, destruction, malfunction, and dysfunction. The peril may build to such a state we will be forced as a nation to address the problem head on. That is exciting. The “Oh, my God” response to a problem is a remarkable sight. It is usually transformative. The Republicans continue to embrace the infected thing that has us reeling from disease. The foul thing they snuggle with is a blanket, saturated with the poisons of hubris, hypocrisy, greed, and insular approaches to existence (if it only works for some how good can it be). Limited thinking took America to Iraq and wasted almost forty years building wealth and education gaps between the so-called, classes of people. Such thinking divided the electorate and therefore, cheapened the results. The curtain is coming down on illusions because the times are changing. Tax and spend, trickle down, stay the course, thousand points of light, new world order, compassionate conservative, kinder and gentler, blah, blah, blah.

Fire burns. Storms devour. Catastrophe crushes hopes and dreams. Hubris is hurting the world. Hate is harming the soul. Greed is killing the glorious possibility of transcendence beyond complacency. Peril may propel the people to act as they heretofore never fathomed they could.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 12/10/2008
- WasteNJ I'm a Fan of WasteNJ 29 fans permalink
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As they say, "you don't really know where the line should be drawn, until you cross it." Another gem of a post, GrainOSand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 12/10/2008
- mtflyer I'm a Fan of mtflyer 8 fans permalink

Brilliant post, GrainOSand! Indeed a revolutionary approach is needed:the paradigm that Republicans have hidden within since the Hoover days has become the crypt of their obsolescence. The pragmatic approach FDR used will hopefully be revived after January 20th and get us back on track.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 12/10/2008
- Diane Tucker - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Diane Tucker 53 fans permalink

Congress should keep Mulally as Ford CEO. But what about GM's Wagoner and Chrysler's Nardelli? What do YOU think? Let me know at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diane-tucker/ha-would-you-buy-a-car-de_b_149308.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 12/10/2008
- Chbronze I'm a Fan of Chbronze 6 fans permalink

I would think that would be a question for the board of directors not for congress. I would think politics, i.e. disagreements between the unions and CEO's may cloud the objectivity of certain congressmen. I would like to know why Chris Dodd singled out Rick Wagonner as having to go when Nardelli, a poster child for overpaid incompetence, would be allowed to stay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 12/10/2008
- Thundrdrum I'm a Fan of Thundrdrum 8 fans permalink
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American cars have always been inferior to imports. Inferior in gas mileage and mechanically ridiculous to maintain--when they're running at all. Take a look at all the cars sitting at stop-lights and get a reality check.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 12/10/2008
- trinity I'm a Fan of trinity 11 fans permalink

Not necessarily (depends on models) , my Saturn sedan outlasted by brother's Nissan sedan & Toyota Corolla, as well as my parents' Honda and Kia. I never had to have any major work done on the thing and traded back to Saturn (when I got a new Saturn) with well over 200K on it. Saturn turned around and resold it...ran fine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 12/10/2008

BS!!! For every anecdote you can come up with about some 70s clunker that died prematurely I can come up with dozens of others from folks who've had nothing but good relationships with Big 3 products.

Imported cars are no less prone to breakdowns or accidents than an American car...especially with poorly trained American drivers at the wheel. You're just spouting a bunch of european and asian car firms' marketing pitches.

The media live on the coasts and are swayed by the snob appeal of high priced luxury autos favored by jet setters, especially when the manufacturers buy huge amounts of advertising time and print space.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 12/10/2008
- Mnemanth I'm a Fan of Mnemanth 18 fans permalink
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The treasury would have said the same thing, if congress had held their feet to the fire.
By pushing for oversight, accountability, and insisting on the handout being paid back, miraculously Ford isn't in dire straights any longer.
Yes, it's a miracle!
I'm hoping- really hoping- that this was transparent to most people from the start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 12/10/2008
- Dewtrell I'm a Fan of Dewtrell 8 fans permalink

If Ford would allow the cars they sell in Europe to be sold here, it would turn the company around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 12/10/2008
- karinova I'm a Fan of karinova 27 fans permalink
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Bingo!
Perfect example: the Focus.
The European version was awesome, everybody loved it. They brought it to the US and changed/cheapened everything about it, from the front grille to the cabin air filter. Also, no SVT for you!

At least I bought mine back when they were cute; they're now completely unrecognizable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 12/10/2008

That changes with the next Focus. There will be little different from the european version. The US version was a mistake done in an effort to keep prices down. Also in Europe, The Focus isn't the entry level offering. The Fiesta is. It is coming here next year as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 12/10/2008
- WasteNJ I'm a Fan of WasteNJ 29 fans permalink
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SVT Focus was sold here. Not a bad little car, much more like the euro in appearance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 12/10/2008
- luvly56 I'm a Fan of luvly56 2 fans permalink

Everyone always looks down on Ford cars. But I always had a Ford car. And I have Always been very SATISFIED with the Ford cars. It was only one time when I had a GM car and that GM car gave me nothing but trouble from the time I purchased it. I had the General Motors car in the shop more than it was out and it was a brand new car. Ford makes way more better quality cars in America and they 're operation of how they handle crisis should be AWARDED. I always knew Ford can come out on top once they have a master plan set up of making the best cars. Look how long the MUSTAGNE, The Taurus, Exscort and Lincolns been around. Hooray! for you Ford. But I would still hope that you do accept some of the Bailout money to just keep around in case of further situations as this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 12/10/2008
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