White House: Don't Expect Auto Bailout By Monday

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December 14, 2008 09:08 PM EST | AP

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In this photograph provided by "Meet the Press," Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm speaks as moderator David Gregory, right, and former Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney listen on "Meet the Press'" Sunday, Dec. 14, 2008, in Washington. (AP Photo/Meet The Press, Alex Wong)

WASHINGTON — The White House tossed out no lifeline for the teetering auto industry Sunday, although President George W. Bush reiterated that he was considering using money from the $700 billion financial bailout fund to provide loans to the carmakers.

"An abrupt bankruptcy for autos could be devastating for the economy," Bush told reporters Monday aboard Air Force One during an unannounced trip to Iraq and Afghanistan. "We're now in the process of working with the stakeholders on a way forward. We're not quite ready to announce that yet."

Bush wouldn't give a precise timetable but said, "This will not be a long process because of the economic fragility of the autos."

White House officials said they did not expect to make an announcement Monday. The administration is considering ways to provide emergency aid to General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC, which have said they could run out of cash within weeks without federal aid.

Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., who blocked legislation that would have provided $14 billion in loans to the automakers, said he had spoken with the White House early Sunday. "I don't think they yet know what they're going to do," he said. Ron Gettelfinger, the president of the United Auto Workers, said the union had not held discussions with the White House.

The aid is expected to benefit General Motors and Chrysler and discussions involve the amount of funding and any potential conditions. Ford Motor Co. has said it has enough cash to survive 2009 but asked Congress for a line of credit in case the financial markets deteriorate further.

"I'm optimistic they're going to do something significant. I don't think the White House wants bankruptcy at one of the Big Three automakers as part their legacy," said Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio.

Last week, Congress failed to approve a plan that would have provided short-term financing to the industry and create a "car czar" who would ensure that the money would transform the Detroit automakers into competitive companies.

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The administration, following the legislative defeat, said it was considering several options, including using money from the $700 billion financial bailout fund to provide loans to the carmakers.

Corker and other Republicans sought a compromise that would have insisted the carmakers restructure their debt and bring wages and benefits in line with those paid by Toyota, Honda and Nissan in the United States. The legislation died when Republicans demanded upfront pay and benefit concessions from the United Auto Workers that union leaders rejected.

Corker urged the White House to seek similar concessions from the auto companies and their unions in return for the money. "Of course, the benefit they have _ they don't have to negotiate. They can say this money is available but it's only available under these conditions," he said in a broadcast interview.

Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., countered that Republican leaders in the Senate did not want an agreement and said the loans were needed to buy time for the companies to restructure.

"Manufacturing is on the edge in this country. This is not the time for a political agenda," Stabenow said.

The UAW's Gettelfinger said the failure of the legislation showed that Congress should stay "away from the bargaining table."

The administration has several options. It could tap the $700 billion financial rescue bailout fund to provide loans to the carmakers or use part of that fund as a kind of collateral for emergency loans the automakers could get from the Federal Reserve.

The administration also could do nothing, leaving open the possibility that one or more of the automakers could go bankrupt.

The White House is keeping President-elect Barack Obama and his advisers informed of the discussions. If administration officials choose not to provide the money now, the Obama team could wait for the new Congress, which will have stronger Democratic majorities.

Providing aid to the companies could represent a change for the White House, which has previously insisted that the Wall Street rescue plan should be used solely to help financial institutions.

Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich., said other countries were providing aid to their automakers and the loans were essential to help make the U.S. less dependent on foreign oil.

If the companies don't get help, "we'll be replacing our reliance on foreign oil with a reliance on foreign batteries because it's going to be the battery that's driving the electric vehicle in the future," Granholm said.

Corker was on CBS' "Face the Nation," as was Brown, and "Fox News Sunday," where he appeared with Stabenow. Gettelfinger was on "Late Edition" on CNN. Granholm was on "Meet the Press" on NBC.

WASHINGTON — The White House tossed out no lifeline for the teetering auto industry Sunday, although President George W. Bush reiterated that he was considering using money from the $700 billion...
WASHINGTON — The White House tossed out no lifeline for the teetering auto industry Sunday, although President George W. Bush reiterated that he was considering using money from the $700 billion...
 
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Toyota has stopped building its new plant in Mississippi, so this is not a Big 3 problem it is a Banking Problem.

The Banks are hoarding cash that the Taxpayers gave them and that is crashing the Economy.

The same Banksters that caused this crisis are now making it WORSE!

It is time to Bailout those honest people and businesses instead of the Bankers who have received
$335,000,000,000 already!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 12/15/2008

"Why are politicians pointing their fatty, greasy, fingers at the United Auto Workers when the UAW is not responsible for steering this nation into it's destructive path. Why should money come out of workers pockets to pay for the "solution" to a problem they did not create? Turn your heads toward those who "lead" us if you feel the urge to put the blame on someone. How much money is coming out of the pockets of George W. Bush, his administration, the executives at the Federal Reserve, and all other public officials doing a pathetic job at keeping the branches of government in check and balanced."

http://www.theartdeptchronicles.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 12/15/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 435 fans permalink
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http://bailoutsleuth.com/2008/12/some-perspective-on-the-auto-bailout/

The $14 billion in aid that Congress rejected for the Big Three is less than the amount of new capital Treasury provided to four banks with heavy concentrations of business in vehicle and parts producing states.

A total of $15.85 billion came in the form of direct capital investment rather than loans. And it came with very few conditions, other than reduced tax deductions for executive compensation, restrictions on "golden parachute'' payments for departing executives and limits on dividend increases and stock buybacks.

It's a safe bet that many customers of the auto-state banks getting TARP money are employed in the auto industry or rely on it in some way. If their jobs are threatened by the industry's turmoil, then the financial strength of the banks could be threatened, too, along with the taxpayer investment in them.

Goldman Sachs was one of the investment banks that provided financing for Cerberus purchase of 80 percent of Chrysler in 2007. Goldman Sachs has reduced its exposure on the Chrysler deal, selling at least half of its $1.6 billion in debt securities.

Goldman Sachs got $10 billion in government investment through TARP. Citigroup Inc., J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., and Morgan Stanley also provided big chunks of the $7 billion in financing Cerberus used to buy Chrysler, and sold a total of $60 billion of their preferred stock under TARP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 12/15/2008
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I don't get it. Why the holdup? Is Bush going back on his word and playing politics like the bozos in the senate did? What a surprise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 AM on 12/15/2008
- CindyKay I'm a Fan of CindyKay 17 fans permalink
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He is trying to find a roundabout way to screw the UAW

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 12/15/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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Well, there goes the stock market into the tank tomorrow.

Great, the Republicans are pushing us into The Great Depression 2.0.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 12/15/2008
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Bailout or no bailout, The Big Three will go bankrupt. This loan buys them a few more months. They will be back begging for more or they will be gone before 2009 is done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 12/15/2008
- research I'm a Fan of research 284 fans permalink

Read great Kucinich talk on TARP versus the auto companies

http://kucinich.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2640&Itemid=1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 12/14/2008
- dizmo4 I'm a Fan of dizmo4 61 fans permalink

The simplest solution to all of this is for the Treasury Department to FORCE Banks to lend to the big three. These banks took 700 billion tax payer dollars (okay, only about $335 has actually been given out as of now). The money is there, they need to be forced to lend it out.

If they refuse to lend it, then the government should not give them the other half.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 12/14/2008
- DLBSR I'm a Fan of DLBSR 13 fans permalink

That is true. Only about half the $700B has been distributed. Trouble is, there is no good accounting of where the first half of the $700B went or what is was spent for. Really, the democrats and republicans began slinging mud at each other on Friday with respect to the accounting issues. Secondly, if the banks were forced to loan the Big Three billions of dollars, it will still be with our money. A bailout is a bailout whatever wrapper it comes in. I agree the Big Three must be rescued. Our fragile economy could not absorb the trauma inflicted on it by a total collapse of this industry. What do we do? Please go to http://taxpayercommonsense.blogspot.com to see a bold new initiative that will save the industry, it will put this country back on the road to recovery. The rescue model presented will give taxpayers an opportunity to earn our way out of this crisis. The model if adopted, will actually generate tax revenue instead of consuming it. Please...take three minutes of your time to review the model.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 12/14/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 288 fans permalink
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Right. The best way out of this crisis is for the government to force banks to make bad loans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 12/15/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 12/14/2008
- DLBSR I'm a Fan of DLBSR 13 fans permalink

The American people have no representation on Capitol Hill from either of the two political parties. Both parties have so polarized the electorate in this country that there is no longer a clear majority with an opinion on any issue. That is the way Washington wants it. Don't you see, when there is no majority to answer to they can do whatever they want without re-election reprucussions. We, the taxpayer and Mr. & Mrs. Mainstreet better understand that if there is going to be any rescue from this sinking ship, it will come from our initiatives and labor. The Big Three automakers must survive. A failure in that industry could very well spell doom for our already fragile economy. Fortunately, there are rescue proposals available developed by people on Main Street. Washington wants to ignore any proposal they themselves did not develop. Please go to http://taxpayercommonsense.blogspot.com to view one such proposal. We can save this industry without lending a dime of taxpayer money and create jobs instead of losing up to three million existing jobs. Please...take five minutes out of your day to review the rescue model. At the very least it will make you proactive as opposed to reacting to the latest nonsense out of Washington.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 12/14/2008

The UAW has been killing themselves for decades...the patient is almost dead...Do Not Resuscitate!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 12/14/2008
- ema I'm a Fan of ema 23 fans permalink
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He's too busy ducking shoes in Iraq. Ducking this too. Good at ducking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 12/14/2008
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Keep the "Foreign Car State" Senators out of this! Haven't they done enough to delay this.

Who needs their a Senator to micro-manage a bunch of business decisions!

If they want to manage a company quit the Senate and start a company!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 12/14/2008
- Tom95134 I'm a Fan of Tom95134 55 fans permalink
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Bush is going to drag this out as long as he can so he can get as much "ink" and TV new time as possible. Bush is still playing politics with the middle class working man and the future of our country. This little announcement should result in the overnight (Sunday/Monday) Asian and European markets nose diving again and the U.S. markets opening much lower on Monday. Some time during the day a "leak" will indicate a resolution is forthcoming which will cause the U.S> markets to rally and all of Bush's friends to make a ton of money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 12/14/2008

Manufacturing will come back to the US............... The Asian countries will be the growth economies of the world. Their populations will demand higher wages. The costs of transporting raw materials and finished goods will increase. Our standard of living will continue to decline, unions will be busted further and our people will be happy to work for $8 per hour with no benefits. However, the question will be whether or not we will have any skilled workers left. We might have to ask Chinese to retrain our workers in the future. Lots to look forward to!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 12/14/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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No answer by Monday..!

Of course not, you're to busy Mr. President, playing games kissing rear ends and getting shoes thrown at you in Iraq, to solve the biggest economic crisis since the great depression or the collapse or our entire or 3/2rds of our automotive industry...by tomorrow...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 12/14/2008
- Egalitare I'm a Fan of Egalitare 6 fans permalink
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This gets played along until Friday afternoon, 2 hrs before the Closing Bell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 12/14/2008
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