Stocks end lower as Madoff victim list grows

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December 15, 2008 06:04 PM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — Investors sent stocks lower Monday as anxiety over the growing list of firms affected by investment manager Bernard Madoff magnified Wall Street's concerns about the health of the financial sector.

Stocks had traded mixed early on as investors were relieved to hear that President George W. Bush was working on providing short-term government help for the auto industry. The Senate's rejection of a $14 billion bailout for automakers last week had raised the possibility of a major bankruptcy, which some analysts say would result in as many as 3 million U.S. job losses next year.

But as that fear eased somewhat, it gave way to concerns about companies' exposure to Madoff's fund. Well respected in the investment community after serving as chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market, Madoff was arrested Thursday for orchestrating what prosecutors say was a $50 billion Ponzi scheme to defraud investors.

Firms with exposure include HSBC Holdings PLC, Banco Santander, BNP Paribas, Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC and hedge fund Man Group PLC. And the list of prominent investors keeps growing.

"This is a massive fraud taking down very intelligent people, very sophisticated investors and it just leaves you a little bit shaky in terms of who's really monitoring the store," said Jay Wong, principal and portfolio manager of Los Angeles-based money manager Payden & Rygel.

The ordeal dealt another blow to investors' confidence in the market, analysts said.

"The investor psyche is already quite fragile. Scandals like this just add fuel to the fire," said Alan Gayle, senior investment strategist for RidgeWorth Capital Management.

Investors also were nervous ahead of earnings reports later this week from the country's two largest investment banks, Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley.

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Analysts are expecting Goldman Sachs to report a loss of $3.50 per share on Tuesday, according to a poll by Thomson Reuters. It would be the investment bank's first quarterly loss since it went public in 1999. Morgan Stanley reports results on Wednesday.

The Dow Jones industrial average finished down 65.15, or 0.75 percent, to 8,564.53. The Standard & Poor's 500 index lost 11.16, or 1.27 percent, to 868.57, while the Nasdaq composite index fell 32.38, or 2.10 percent, to 1,508.34.

The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies fell 15.86, or 3.39 percent, to 452.57.

Declining issues outnumbered advancers by about 3 to 1 on the New York Stock Exchange, where consolidated volume came to 4.37 billion shares, down from 5.12 billion on Friday.

Volume is expected to remain light this week, the last full week of trading this year, ahead of the holidays. Analysts were quick to point out that light volume often skews the market's moves.

"There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of activity in the market right now," said Joe Keetle, senior wealth manager of Dawson Wealth Management. "On small volume, the market can move dramatically one way or the other."

Investors also seemed hesitant to make any major moves ahead of the Federal Reserve's decision Tuesday on interest rates. Some analysts anticipate policy makers will cut the key rate by a half-point to 0.5 percent, while others expect a three-quarter-point reduction to 0.25 percent _ which would be the lowest key rate on records going back to 1954.

"A Fed ease this week has long been anticipated by the market; the only news would be if the Fed did not cut," Gayle said. He added that the market will probably pay close attention to the statement the central bank releases about the economy and the possibility of future policy actions.

Despite Monday's moderate decline, investors have been showing a greater tolerance for bad economic and corporate news in recent sessions, leading some analysts to believe that the market may be showing some stability after the horrific selling of the past three months.

The Dow ended last week down 0.07 percent; the S&P 500 index finished the week up 0.42 percent; and the Nasdaq composite index ended the week up 2.08 percent. Still, the Dow is down about 35 percent for the year, while the S&P 500 and Nasdaq are down more than 40 percent.

"The market has recently done a very good job with absorbing bad news," said Quincy Krosby, chief investment strategist at The Hartford Financial Services Group Inc. "The key is no major surprises for the market."

In addition to a rate cut, investors are anticipating some sort of resolution for the auto industry this week.

Following the legislative defeat on Thursday, the administration said it was considering several options. Bush reiterated Monday that he remains open to tapping the $700 billion financial bailout fund to help the companies.

General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC are seeking the funding, while Ford Motor Co. has said it has enough cash to survive 2009.

GM was the biggest gainer among the 30 stocks that make up the Dow, rising 14 cents, or 3.6 percent, to close at $4.08. The biggest loser Monday was JPMorgan Chase & Co., which fell $2.31, or 7.5 percent, to $28.63, alongside other declining financial stocks.

The Madoff scandal only added to investors' growing fears about the financial sector _ namely that banks will report more losses in the fourth quarter due to the major market turmoil throughout the period.

Goldman Sachs fell $1.28 to $66.46, while Morgan Stanley lost 21 cents to $13.64.

In economic data, the Fed reported a decline in November industrial production, while the New York Fed reported a massive contraction in regional manufacturing activity.

Bond prices edged higher Monday. The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note, which moves opposite its price, fell to 2.51 percent late Monday from 2.58 percent late Friday. The yield on the three-month T-bill _ a safe short-term asset that's in very high demand _ dipped to 0.02 percent late Monday from 0.04 percent late Friday.

The dollar fell against the euro and the British pound, but rose against the Japanese yen. Gold prices rose.

Light, sweet crude for January delivery peaked briefly above $50 early Monday, but then fell $1.77 from Friday's level to settle at $44.51 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Markets overseas were mixed. Japan's Nikkei stock average rose 5.21 percent, while Hong Kong's Hang Seng index rose 1.96 percent. Britain's FTSE 100 slipped 0.07 percent, Germany's DAX index fell 0.18 percent, and France's CAC-40 fell 0.87 percent.

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NEW YORK — Investors sent stocks lower Monday as anxiety over the growing list of firms affected by investment manager Bernard Madoff magnified Wall Street's concerns about the health of the fin...
NEW YORK — Investors sent stocks lower Monday as anxiety over the growing list of firms affected by investment manager Bernard Madoff magnified Wall Street's concerns about the health of the fin...
 
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All representatives should be fired.

They are only representing themselves.

They campaign; make all kinds of promises. And as soon as they are elected, we become the irrelevant people who they can't stand to talk to until the next time they run for election. I am so sick and tired of it.

Everyone who voted for the TARP bailout including Obama promised that they would not sign a blank check. Oversight & Compensation caps were mandatory. WHAT HAPPENED!

Bonus' are going out & we can"t find anyone qualified enough to give proper oversight to the TARP. Bush put in a loophole clause allowing high compensation. After the WAR documents, are we still trusting BUSH?

This is the greatest PONZI scheme.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 12/16/2008


Bush was watching the store while he robbed the banks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 12/16/2008

I don't know what all the anxiety is about. When our 401's went belly up we kept hearing "you didn't really lose anything... it was just paper wealth, it never really existed."

So I say these guys didn't lose anything either, it was just on paper!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 12/16/2008
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So we will not only bail these risk takers - but they will be able to take loss on fed. tax returns - prior years as well as future years? - I want proof they lost this $$$$ - or is it a scheme and they have shifted everything off shore?

Considering how connected all the investors were - I wouldn't be surprised...

So can we take a loss on our fed. tax as well becz of these govt. thieves -

The only profession that will make a bundle is the legal profession - lawyers will clean up going after the brokers - (if of course, the $$ is really missing)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 12/16/2008

the $50 billion scandal may go as high as $200 billion after the dust settles. this don't even count international markets also damaged.

the solution, give them another bailout or two & use ordinary people's 401k to finance the scandal. somehow the small people will end up paying for their greed & corruption.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 AM on 12/16/2008

MICHAEL SAVAGE IS RIGHT, NO GOV BAILOUTS FOR THOSE HEDGE FUND LOSERS

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 AM on 12/16/2008

BUSH TRIED VERY HARD TO PRIVATITIZE SS< PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT THAT, I'D RATHER HAVE A SMALL SECURE PENSION, THAN AN UNSECURE PENSION, THAT MAY GO DOWN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 AM on 12/16/2008

the $700 billion bailout will be paid for by putting a lien on ss collected for the next 20 years because the ss fund has been raided.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 12/16/2008
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It seems as if the 'class warfare' brand that has been attached to my outlook on the world since I was a teenager has sadly been shown correct. These criminals will NEVER be prosecuted at the level they should be for the amount of misery they will subject the world to. Beyond this story is the idea that George W Bush will spend the rest of his life walking free after KNOWINGLY BREAKING US LAW.

Truly, I am ashamed these criminals are still walking free.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 AM on 12/16/2008
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can someone tell me where the $350 billion, half of the $700 billion bailout, went?

The money was given to Wall Street folks and I guess they took the stipulation free money and went x-mas shopping.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 AM on 12/16/2008

RJII: A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WONDERING, WHERE DID THAT MONEY GO, MADOFF< HAD HELP IN HIS PONZIE SCHEME< AND I THINK< THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHERS , AS WELL< I FELL CERTAIN OFFSHORE BANKS ARE STUFFED WITH MONEY FROM AMERICAN CROOKS< BUSH HAS ALWAYS WANTED DEREGULATION

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 AM on 12/16/2008

there is at least $200 billion that just disapeared. no accountability no nothing. there was no watchdog organization to overlook the bailout at the onset.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 12/16/2008
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Just the tip of the iceberg folks... tip of the iceberg!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 12/16/2008
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The Madoff case is the "teeny tinny tip of this iceberg!"
I would add the following:

1. All Hedge Funds are unregulated and many have similar problems including $500 million +/- fees.
2. The entire Derivative/Instruments Market has no transparency and is at center of Economic Crisis.

Madoff and the other problems were created by the Exorbitant Fees and Incomes taken at every level of the PONZI.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 12/16/2008
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In general, "very sophisticated investors" are not "very intelligent people." As a matter of fact, the more "sophisticated" the investment tool, the more it has been rigged, to allow even the most vacuous, ignorant trust-fund babies to stay ahead of the productive working class. Ensuring that the unproductive rich get richer while the increasingly productive middle class and poor keep getting poorer, is what the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and the Commodity Futures Modernization Act and the prolonged George Walker Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% were all designed to do.

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"This is a massive fraud taking down very intelligent people, very sophisticated investors and it just leaves you a little bit shaky in terms of who's really monitoring the store," said Jay Wong, principal and portfolio manager of Los Angeles-based money manager Payden & Rygel.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 12/16/2008

Remember, the republicans wanted social security money invested in Wall Street stocks..................I don't think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 12/16/2008
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sorry all you rich people. my PERA, 401k and IRAs are hurting. Welcome to the real world----------

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 12/15/2008
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There is no honor amongst thieves, Wall St. has always stolen more from Americans than even the Mafia..!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 12/15/2008
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