Turkish Academics To Apologize For Armenian Genocide

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Around 200 Turkish intellectuals and academics are to apologise on the internet today for the ethnic cleansing of Armenians during the First World War, in the most public sign yet that Turkey's most sensitive taboo is slowly melting away.

"My conscience does not accept the denial of the great catastrophe that the Ottoman Armenians were subjected to in 1915," the text prepared by the group reads. "I reject this injustice and ... empathise with the feelings and pain of my Armenian brothers. I apologise to them."

Turkey accepts that many Armenians were killed during the collapse of the Ottoman empire, but insists they were victims of civil strife and that Muslim Turks also died. Most Western historians agree that the ethnic cleansing that killed roughly 700,000 Armenians amounted to genocide.

The academics are inviting Turks to sign a petition and add their voices to the apology. "Our concern is being able to look at ourselves in the mirror in the morning ... freeing ourselves by finally facing up to the past," said the political scientist Baskin Oran, one of the four organisers of the initiative.

However, nationalists have reacted angrily to the internet apology before it has even gone live, saying it is a national betrayal. Counter campaigns refusing to apologise have sprung up. The head of a nationalist party with 70 seats in parliament described the initiative as an example of the "frightening extent to which degeneracy and corrosion have spread".

The public apology coincides with a diplomatic rapprochement between Turkey and Armenia, whose shared border has been closed since the Nagorny-Karabakh war in 1993 and who have been locked in almost 100 years of hostility. President Abdullah Gul made history in September when he became the first Turkish leader to visit Armenia, and the two countries have been talking about restoring full diplomatic relations.

Publicly talking about what happened in 1915 remains a sensitive issue in Turkey. The Nobel Prize-winning novelist Orhan Pamuk was prosecuted in 2005 for saying a million Armenians had died. In January 2007, the Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink was gunned down by a nationalist teenager for advocating a more humane debate on the issue.

Yet, while almost every Turkish town has a street named after the chief organisers of the massacres, the taboo surrounding the Armenian issue is nowhere near as total as it was a decade ago. Bookshops sell books by Western and Armenian historians alongside texts written by defenders of the official Turkish thesis. Universities organise conferences on the issue. Istanbul galleries run exhibitions of postcards showing the central place Armenians had in the life of the late Ottoman Empire. And a 2005 memoir, My Grandmother, in which an Istanbul lawyer recounts her discovery that the woman who brought her up was born an Armenian, sparked widespread and sympathetic debate.

One of the first Turks to break the taboo was the historian Halil Berktay, who received death threats for months after telling a Turkish newspaper in October 2000 that he believed the Ottoman Empire committed genocide. Today, he is convinced the space for intelligent debate is growing. "Beneath the bluster," he says, "the Turkish establishment position is crumbling."

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Around 200 Turkish intellectuals and academics are to apologise on the internet today for the ethnic cleansing of Armenians during the First World War, in the most public sign yet that Turkey's most s...
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It is a right step, it is good to see it taking place.

Problem with Armenian Genocide is two fold -
#1consequences of 1915, and
#2 the way the state of Turkey has opted to handle it.

The Ottomans routinely did it(massacred),
the Young Turks brought this to a new state of the art of those days,
and the Kemalists even further perfected it - they used the whole tragedy as a foundation to build a new psyche of new Turks, based on denigration and further humilation of Armenians and Armenian Nation, making all kinds of frivolous allegations, and thus stygmatizing the entire nation, thus building the new Turkish psyche of New Turks, based on content and humiliation of Armenians. This stygma still everyday reality in Modern Turkey.

Complemented, further, with the widespread policy to simply treat the subject as closed, they went further to seal the subject matter, in order , to give it a sign of 'historical credence'.
Shameful reactions from some Governments, including position of Bush's Administration, made the whole world play the sharade orchestrated by the 'Grand manipulators' from Ankara.

There is Hope however that the new Administration in US along with progressives in Turkey will push finally the cynics in Ankara and elsewhere, and let the world know the truth the way it is, uncomfortably ugly, and unedited. The way Armenians (and Greeks in Smirna among others) have known it , at least those who survived.

Say Stop to whitewash from Ankara.

Proud Armenian

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 12/17/2008
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They're finally doing this. It's about time. The movie "Ararat" details what happened. Apparently, someone asked Hitler his opinion about how the world would view his actions, and he answered "Does anyone remember the Armenian Genocide?"

Now, if only the US could be more open about genocide against the Indians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 12/15/2008
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This article is very misleading. The majority of Turks do not accept the Armenian Genocide. The idea that they are "finally doing this" is simply not true.

Also - this quote from Hitler is a bit of propaganda. The term "genocide" was coined in 1944 to describe Hitler's ethnic cleansing. I don't believe this quote was ever spoken by Hitler, who died in 1945.

Also - I don't like the fact that many Americans, who do not have a good historical understanding of Turkey and Armenia and the greater middle east, chiming in on this issue, when America has never really been open and honest about the genocidal activities with Native Americans. You must clean up your own back yard before you start talking about the guy down the street.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 12/16/2008

Raphael Lemkin coined the term genocide to describe what the Turks did to the Armenians. So, by definition, it was genocide. There is film of Mr. Lemkin describing how and why he coined the term.

What Armerica did to the Native Americans was terrible. That does not lessen what the Turks did to the Armenians. The cruelty employed by the Turks was second to none. Their methods too perverse to include here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 12/16/2008

A German army officer documented the genocide, even though it was illegal.
This photos are here. The long lines are the Armenians who had to dig their own three-mile graves before they were shot. Some were naked while they did it. Some were clothed.

http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?title=Armenian_Genocide_Photos..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 12/15/2008

The genocide was 3 million, not 700,000. Some say 1.5 million. But under NO circumstances was it 700,000.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 12/15/2008

It is reported, in various sources, that the Armenian population was estimated to be around 1.5 million at that time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 12/15/2008

Samuel Cox at the American Embassy in Istanbul from 1880 to 1886, estimated the Armenian population within the empire to be of 2.4 million.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 12/17/2008

Interestingly, one of the active HuffPo contributors "proudly" carries the very name of the party ("the Young Turks") that planned and executed the genocide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 12/15/2008

Intrestingly, you are making crap up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 12/16/2008

Making crap up? Have you not seen the Young Turk Jenk? As a "progressive," he should be ashamed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 12/16/2008

I am an Armenian-American and I never understood the Turkish governments stand. It seems to me that it is the equivalent of Germany denying the Jewish Holocaust or America denying slavery. It is a well known historical fact everywhere in the world (except maybe in Turkey), yet the government today still clings to the denials of the past.

I would think that it would be in the best interest of everyone for the current government to admit to the acts of the Ottoman Empire and state that they condemn those actions and apologize to the Armenian people around the world for this atrocity.

They could then take some kind of action to foster better relations between the two countries. Other posters had mentioned museums, maybe thats good, maybe something else. But they really need to do something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 12/15/2008
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I am a Greek American, since these were events that happened 100 years ago but as it is we inherit the wars of our great grandfathers.

If my Turkish brothers got some sense they would let this one go and move on.

Lets say the nationalist hold to their position, and the Armenian folks give up the demand for an appology, has anything been accomplished.

The government of Turkey should just bite it's tounge and reject and denounce the actions of the actors of the OTTOMAN government that led to the war time deaths of 1 million Armenians.

Then donate 100 million Euro to build some museums, preferably on the border.
A Scholarship fund for an Armenian University students would be nice too.

And then we can say what pragmatic and educated Armenians, Turks, and Greeks have said for years:

It was 100 years ago, we are all peaceful and prosperous and want the same things for our children and country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 12/15/2008

Yes lets all have another museum to make it right. Why bother countries don't seem to learn from their mistakes. Give the money to the families that truly lost in those wars. That could really help them more than a museum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 12/15/2008
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Sweetie, you didn't read my whole comment, I also suggested buying alot of colelge scholarships.
But guess what, I am not diplomat, just commenting.

Also, not to throw my Turkish people under the bus but I was there for vacation in what could be considered an exoctic beach town.
Right there was a govt progpaganda piece denying what happened, and this poster was intended for tourist consumption.

So yes, the Turkish government building Museums logging the war that happened 100 years ago, as it happened would be REVOUTIONARY, it might be even cause a govt coup!

And yes, for me museums count.

I love how at the American Holocaust museum there is/was an exhibit that covered the tradedy of USA military not bombing Aushewitz when repeaedly begged to do so.

When I left that Museum, my super pro-POTUS history teacher was FUMING that the museum laid any blame at Roosevelts' feat for not destroying Aushewitz.

Silently, I was SO proud for that museum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 12/15/2008

Yasu. You hit the nail on the head. The Ottomans were the perpetrators of the genocide. The ordinary Turkish person had no say on the subject as disgusted as they might have been. There's a lot more to say on this subject, but I will wait until more people comment and engage accordingly. By the way I'm a pro-Armenian Turk. Not a denier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 12/15/2008

You are quite cavalier with the suffering of the Armenian people and all that they lost. A museum? Really? Scholarships? Really? Is that what the loss of an ancient homeland, civilization, and more than a million lives warrants. And your "pro-Armenian" Turk friend wholeheartedly agrees with you. "Yasou" Time to move on? Not with just a museum and some scholarships.

Were it not for dreams of European Union membership, even this would not be happening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 12/16/2008

These people quite literally are putting their necks on the line because they believe in that document. It's not the "dreams of EU membership" that's motivating them. Go ahead have your problems with Turkish gov, people or whatever, but please don't belittle an effort that could probably cost a few of them their lives. Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 12/18/2008

Ah, nice to see that some people in some places are growing up. I wish it would happen faster though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 12/15/2008
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Growing up? What do you know about Turkey? Judging from your comment, nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 12/16/2008
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