Caroline Kennedy Turning Tide Of Skeptics

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December 16, 2008 05:25 PM

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When Caroline Kennedy first let it be known that she was interested in being New York's junior Senator, she received a chilly reception from Hillary Clinton backers and some members of the progressive community. Now, it seems, the tide of popular opinion is turning towards the former first daughter and Barack Obama confidante.

Several prominent voices have lent their support to her political aspirations, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Meanwhile, Clinton herself has let it be known that her supporters should do nothing to impede Kennedy. Already, members of the Clinton rank-and-file are sounding that very tune.

"[Hillary] has been a mensch about the message of reconciliation to the hardcore friends and supporters of her," said Lanny Davis, one of Clinton's most ardent supporters. "I think what she did today is a big, big signal to everyone ... [Caroline] is certainly capable of being a great Senator. And, having said that, she wasn't the only one who disappointed me by endorsing Barack Obama, I had to deal with my own son."

Davis' remarks typify the type of emotional and political hurdles that Kennedy has had to face in her efforts to secure the seat once held by her uncle Bobby. In the past few days, prominent Clinton supporters, including Rep. Anthony Weiner and fundraiser Robert Zimmerman, have criticized her candidacy. Moreover, a growing number of progressives have wondered aloud what type of qualifications she would bring to the post. Surely, they say, there are other New York Democrats with sharper political ids and fatter resumes.

Cognizant of such skepticism, Kennedy's staff in New York has launched what is being dubbed the "whispering campaign" (contrasted to the listening variety), strategically reaching out to key constituencies.

"For the last 24 to 36 hours, she has been calling a lot of the folks," said a source close to Kennedy, "labor people, elected officials, political leaders, explaining who she is and listening to them about the concerns of New Yorkers. As far as the last couple days, that is what it has been."

One of those calls was to Clinton herself, though neither Kennedy's people nor Clinton's staff would confirm if the two actually found time to speak.

As a subtext to the debate over Kennedy's worthiness for the Senate is a distinct but equally heated discussion over whether or not she would be a good Senator once in office. Largely an apolitical figure in New York, the basis for Kennedy's candidacy lies in her work on education and Obama's campaign as well as superficial aspects like her "charisma" and "aura." On this front, even her supporters admit that Kennedy faces deficits compared to her prospective competition.

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But others draw from this critique a rather interesting historical parallel. In 1962, a 30-year-old Massachusetts politician named Ted Kennedy was also dismissed as a name-only candidate for the Senate. At the time, only one or two members of the Harvard University faculty offered their support for the president's brother. Everyone else -- scoffing at the presumptuousness of the bid -- backed Edward McCormack or held their powder dry during the Democratic primary.

"There are some things that are in common between that race and this contest," said Adam Clymer, a Kennedy biographer and former New York Times scribe. "Certainly there is the sense from the other people who want the job that, you know, [Caroline] doesn't have the credentials, the experience, that they do. And that certainly is comparable to the support for Eddie McCormack in 1962."

The parallel, as Clymer notes, only goes so far. For all his family privilege, Ted Kennedy was a well-known figure in the state: he basically ran his brother's Senate campaign in '58. Ted was the minimum age of 30, while Caroline is 51. And he was clearly a political workhorse, taking to menial but essential political tasks like shaking strangers' hands. He once slapped bumper stickers on cars when John Kennedy's campaign bus got stuck in traffic. There is no indication as to how Caroline would take to these tasks. Moreover, Ted had to get elected. Caroline would be appointed by New York's governor.

And so, other followers of history aren't ready to anoint Caroline this generation's liberal lion. After all, other Kennedys have failed to show a deft political touch once on the public stage -- Kathleen Kennedy Townsend lost a run at Maryland's governor's chair in 2002. One observer used the same line that dragged on Ted Kennedy in '62 against his niece: "If her name were Caroline Bouvier [her middle name] would she be a candidate?"

Ultimately, however, Kennedy's hopes to serve as Senator of New York will come down to one man: David Paterson. Any campaign for the seat won't be aimed at persuading the masses, but rather the governor and those individuals who have his ear. So the whispering campaign goes on, winning over some skeptics in the process.

"She is highly intelligent, personally gifted and has great interpersonal skills," said Davis. "What more do you need to be an effective U.S. Senator? I value experience. But experience is not always a determinant for success," he said. "And I should note the last time I argued experience over change, my own son disagreed with me."

When Caroline Kennedy first let it be known that she was interested in being New York's junior Senator, she received a chilly reception from Hillary Clinton backers and some members of the progressive...
When Caroline Kennedy first let it be known that she was interested in being New York's junior Senator, she received a chilly reception from Hillary Clinton backers and some members of the progressive...
 
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Selling senat seat? They need to talk to Blago!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 01/05/2009

A political move? Payback time? So where's the change? Or should I say "what's new?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 12/21/2008

Caroline's work is in education! What did she actually do??? Juan Gonzalez points out in the Daily News that the City's Fund for Education fiscal report states that she worked approximately 2 hours a week! If she worked for 10 months that would amount to 2 and 1/2 work weeks of 6 hour days! She is given credit for raising funds actually raised by others. Her own children went to private school as did she, so what does she actually know about the public schools and public education. Her education work occurred only because she is a close friend of Joel Klein. Most of Caroline's "public service" has been for private charities such as the American Ballet Company. Why isn't the press printing the truth about her. Do we really want to continue Bloomberg's oligarchic rule??? She has absolutely NO qualifications for this position, which doesn't mean that she would make a bad Senator, but it also doesn't mean she would make a good one. Finally, where does Caroline stand on the issues that we care about: health care, the bail out, NCLB, women's reproductive rights, stem cell research! Has she communicated her views tp the public? No! She evidently thinks that she is accountable not to the people but to political leaders and ahs no problem playing back room politics! Is this the kind of person we want?. Someone with a track record of actual public service and transparency would be better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 12/20/2008
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It is up to the governor of NY and it would be hard to imagine him bucking the Kennedys so I think it is a foregone conclusion. But if it is therapeutic for people to bash her on this blog go ahead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 12/19/2008
- meko I'm a Fan of meko 79 fans permalink
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I think the seat's already been sold. But I'll pretend that there's hope for democracy till things are done playing out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 12/20/2008
- Lisette I'm a Fan of Lisette 39 fans permalink
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SHE IS THE ONE!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 12/19/2008
- pangurban I'm a Fan of pangurban 23 fans permalink
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She has heart, intelligence and is a liberal Democrat who can raise money for her run. Go for it CK!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 12/19/2008
- Diplomacy I'm a Fan of Diplomacy 10 fans permalink

Caroline Kennedy makes perfect sense. She gets appointed & there's no displacement in State or Congressional politics.

Caroline sits as appointed Senator for 2 years, runs for election in 2010 & 2012 as required by law. What's all the ballyhoo?

All this "noise" is coming from the political right who despise the Kennedys because they know the importance of Caroline Kennedy entering politics and are frightened.

So, Congressman King, Caroline's foiled your plan for a run at the Senate. Too damn bad!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 12/19/2008
- meko I'm a Fan of meko 79 fans permalink
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I'm a Democrat. I campaigned for Obama. The noise coming from me is because I think it's unfair that people who work and serve in the party, who I think would do a much better job are again being pushed aside to give a job to an insider's child. Even Democrats can find cronyism offensive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 12/20/2008
- gjefferson I'm a Fan of gjefferson 2 fans permalink

This is political payoff..........stop whining.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 12/18/2008
- meko I'm a Fan of meko 79 fans permalink
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The traditional payoff for fundraising and endorsements is an ambassadorship. If we're going to do retrograde pay-for-play politics, let's send her to Paris. She's well trained for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 12/18/2008
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 67 fans permalink

There's a widespread unquestioned myth that "experience in doing a job is a good predictor of future success in doing the job." There's a subtle but VERY IMPORTANT difference between "preparation" and "experience".

A good case in point is Obama's recently demonstrated campaign success that launched him into the presidency. Some knowledgeable journalists and political commentators have observed that a significant contributing factor to his presidential campaign success can be traced back to his years in Chicago working on the ground in the street with disadvantaged youths, encouraging and motivating them to have higher expectations of themselves to strive and achieve. By itself, that hands-on community organizing activity had little apparent connection to legislative experience or presidential campaign experience. Yet, at a more profound level, that constituted a crucial part of Obama's "preparation" that honed his political instincts and skills at empathising with and motivating his followers. As history records, he achieved the unprecedented political feat of amassing, organizing and motivating over ONE MILLION campaign volunteers.

By conventional standards, in the uninformed opinions of many observers across the country, and here at Huffpost too, that skill-set preparation didn't count as "EXPERIENCE". ... and they derided, misjudged, miscalculated and underestimated his ability to deliver results. Honestly, ask yourselves, -- weren't you part of the crowd early on in the primary campaigns, that dismissed his skimpy legislative and executive experience, and grossly underestimated his potentials to out-campaign all his rivals and rise to the top?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 12/18/2008
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Obama ran for office. He held office. He campaigned.

There is no way that Caroline Kennedy would be considered for this position if she were born to any other set of parents. No one with her resume would have a shot, she's a wealthy heiress and socialite, and a good one. But she's never had a job where she didn't write the description. She's never had to interview for a job. And it isn't right for her to get this one without putting herself before the electorate.

If one day she runs for the office, more power to her. But to make a hereditary appointment to this plutocrat is a disservice to anyone who believes in democracy or meritocracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 12/18/2008
- meko I'm a Fan of meko 79 fans permalink
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Why not appoint someone who New York voters have vetted in at least one election. Byron Brown, Kirsten Gillibrand, Nydia Velazquez, Carolyn Maloney, Tom Suozzi, Steve Israel or Adolfo Carrion have all been elected to something. If they don't work out, in two years, she can run. She's a talented fundraiser with good connections.

Running for office would allow Caroline Kennedy to prove that she's a committed public servant. It would stop in their tracks those who might suggest she's a bored heiress who's trading on family connections to avoid the inconvenience of earning a job. No amount of working in positions where she wrote her own job description will give her the credibility that actually going through the same process that any other citizen would have to go through to have a shot at being a senator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 12/17/2008
- Myshkin57 I'm a Fan of Myshkin57 17 fans permalink

Tell me 3 policy positions of Caroline Kennedy in 3 different areas. I'm betting people supporting her can't without looking things up they didn't know BEFORE deciding to support her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 12/17/2008

Pro Choice , Anti capital punishment . Pro stem cell research . National Health Care . Would you really expect her to be a conservative ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 12/17/2008
- Myshkin57 I'm a Fan of Myshkin57 17 fans permalink

I mean detailed information. Anybody can assume those general positions. What are the nuances of her positions? That could be just about any Democrat with those positions and I'm guessing you just listed those because of that. Anybody can rattle off the general party positions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 12/17/2008
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 67 fans permalink

Positions and policies can change, in light of subsequent facts and experience. Basic principles on life and political philosophy and informed judgments should not change easily. You might make the same kind of mistakes as judging a book by its glossy cover.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 AM on 12/18/2008

What happened to Schlossberg?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 12/17/2008
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He's at work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 12/17/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 12/17/2008
- OkieMon I'm a Fan of OkieMon 34 fans permalink

CK was quickly wisked away today in Syracuse after she was asked her qualifications to be senator.....ok all dems who thought sara palin was a joke have to now look in the mirror....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 12/17/2008
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Give me a break...Sarah Palin IS a joke, HAS BEEN a joke, and will CONTINUE to be a joke. Palin has the depth of a piece of tissue paper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 12/17/2008
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CK has a very tight schedule in Upstate. Also, she and her advisers know there is nothing to gain and everything to lose by engaging the press at this time. Unlike Palin, CK is not soliciting the votes of the body politic only the selection from the body Paterson.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 12/17/2008
- Chopin I'm a Fan of Chopin 67 fans permalink

Very astute. Right on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 12/18/2008
- cjgnew I'm a Fan of cjgnew 6 fans permalink

There's no doubt that Caroline Kennedy could grow into filling this position very well. She has the intelligence, proper contacts, the discipline, integrity, dedication, and the desire to serve. She may not have the charisma yet because of her shyness and her inexperience in working a crowd, but when compared to HRC at the early stage of her political career, she didn't project the kind of charisma and confidence that she has now, either. To the people who are concerned about nepotism, they should bear in mind that this is a very junior position with no real power. In addition, she would still have to be elected in 2010 to keep the post. Therefore, this is just a try-out. Because of her star power, however, she could attract a very powerful staff that could make a huge difference in what could be accomplished in such a lame-duck position. Whoever gets the appointment should also have the capacity to raise the type of money that it would take to keep it. Otherwise, the appointment would be meaningless because everyone would know that he or she would be a senator in name only. With Caroline's genuine interest in education, I think she would be a good fit for this position.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 12/17/2008
- meko I'm a Fan of meko 79 fans permalink
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We need a monarchy. That way you have a lifetime to grow into a position.

Caroline Kennedy had everything she needed to get this office the day she was born - the right contacts, the right name, the right bank account. She just needed to wait ti she was interested in running, oops. I meant taking the job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 12/17/2008
- cjgnew I'm a Fan of cjgnew 6 fans permalink

Growing into the position wasn't my only point. Besides, she is not applying for the position of a monarch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 12/17/2008
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