Rick Warren Giving Obama's Invocation: Pro-Lifers Hate Idea Too

On Wednesday, the Huffington Post reported that gay people and progressives were not pleased when Barack Obama chose Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at inauguration. CBNNews reports that they aren't the only people upset:

So let me get straight to the point.

Liberals and gay activists aren't happy with Barack Obama for choosing pro-life and prop 8 supporting pastor Rick Warren to give the invocation at Obama's inaugural. But pro-life readers seem to be equally upset at Rick Warren for agreeing to it.

The Brody File has been flooded with emails and most of them absolutely rip Pastor Warren for doing this. Below is but a very small sampling. I can't reprint all of them but let me just say that pro-lifers are NOT happy with Warren at all.

A representative email:

Unless Rick Warren has changed, he is very disappointing in the pro-life cause. Just ask pro-life leaders their opinion. He doesn't like to deal with it at his church. It just seems funny that he is known as 'pro-life' when he largely ignores the subject and teaches others to do the same. I fear God for these 'men of God'. We have lost 50 million babies, and most won't say a word. Reminds me of Nazi Germany or our slavery days. Very few spoke out. It was more comfortable to keep quiet.

Comments

[BlackWidowPilot]

Mr. Warren, I happen to be a Christian, and you, sir, are indeed a hypocrite, and are bearing false witness against our fellow human beings.

Fact: being gay is an *orientation,* not a "lifestyle choice."

You can cherry pick the Old Testament to justify your hypocrisy and political ambitions 'til Kingdom Come, but you will remain a hypocrite who falsely uses the very Scripture you claim to be educated in (ie., a "reverend"):

http://www.guerrillascholar.com/cogito/?p=78

Mr. Warren, may God forgive you your sins, which you compound with each utterance of your falsehoods against those who are gay, and those who would challenge you for your lies and distortions.

"Thou shalt not bear false witness" was not a suggestion, Mr. Warren.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

PROTESTant

[drspears]

It doesn't get much more biased than this writer. All pro-lifers don't hate the idea. Obviously a few don't represent the mass.

[BleedingArtLiberal]

SO-CALLED PROGRESSIVE / LIBERAL BIGOTS: We in the GLBT community are DONE being your red-headed stepchild! We will NOT "shut up"... We will NOT "tone it down", We will NOT "smile"... We will NOT "look at the bright side"... Discrimination is WRONG, and we are no longer going to stand for it!

PLEASE...Pass it on!

[bjefrz]

I agree, discrimination is wrong. There are 2 ways to end it, in the courts or in the political process. So far, the ballot box has not worked. The courts have worked, but only in some states.

For PE Obama to succeed politically, he is going to need to convert some of the opponents of gay civil rights. He's going to need to do that so that he can get the defense of marriage law (DOMA) repealed and so that when he appoints a supreme court judge amenable to the cause, that judge will get confirmed.

Express your displeasure with this decision. But please don't make that case that Obama is againse gay civil rights, because he's not.

[mamadeus]

Thanks. Obama is using logic and love to help change peoples minds. The hate and name calling sure does not work.

[Grigor2000]

Change we can believe in? Obama what a fake you have already turned out to be. Rick Warren would not have approved of your parent's bi-racial marriage. This President elect is being pushed over. Hillary was right he all talk.

[sherbug]

Now everyone is in agreement from the far left to the far right; Pastor Warren and Obama should be tarred and feathered and run out of town.

Did we elect a man who wanted to unite the country or not? Did we expect Obama to become a partisan bigot once he was elected and cater only to those who supported him? At his acceptance speech on November 4, he said to those who did not support him that he was their president too. This includes the anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-science part of the electorate. Therefore, we cannot continue with this us and them mentality if we expect to find any common ground.

Pastor Warren is invited to lift Obama up and ask God to bless him as sets out on a very difficult task. We should join Pastor Warren in prayer for our new President and for our failing country. Let's pick our fights and this is not a fight worthy of all this dialog.

[karela]

Ditto! Are we the new ideologues who will fight hard to create divisions, fear and anger? It's a prayer. We hated it when Bush did everything exclusively from his own ideological position. But now, apparently many here want to do the same. That's not the man we elected. It isn't what we voted for. If we are to be, one people, than someone, somewhere has to begin to act as though we are and include everybody. It's ironic that the far right is just as mad as the far left---one because Warren would apparently lower himself to appear with Obama and the other because Obama would lower himself to appear with Warren. But in the middle, the place where I come from; the place where I want peace and justice for all people---well, over here in the middle, I am very glad to see that Obama is practicing what he preached. He is bringing everyone to the table because not talking to your enemies has proven very ineffective both here and in Iran, South Korea and Cuba. There are a lot of us here in the middle. Both the far right and far left might recall that they''ll be needing our votes for anything they want to put forth and then they might move to moderating their, our way or the highway positions. Let's demonstrate the compassion and tolerance that we abhor the lack of in the other side.

[RedSox61]

STOP MISLEADING - YOU ARE ***NOT*** PRO-LIFE - - YOU ARE ANTI-ABORTION - GET IT STRAIGHT!

Most of you that call yourselves 'pro-life' don't vote that way at all - what you vote - is AGAINST abortion. And you know what - all the more power to you. If that is the only thing you care about - go ahead. You are an American - vote for it.

BUT - stop calling yourselves PRO-LIFE - - I believe I am PRO-LIFE when I voted for Mr. Obama - because:
--i care about stem cell research that can help improve the lives of many and potentially cure deady disease
--i care about having a leader who will not attack another soverign nation under false pretenses - killing thousands of our soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqi's who they seem to forget about in their quest for removing one guy
--i care about those that live below the poverty line and think that telling them - 'well i got mine, why can't you get yours' is just an unacceptable response

So - stop calling yourselves something you are not....Face it - you are not PRO anything - you are simply ANTI abortion. And while I respect your right to vote your conscience - I disagree completely with your mis-leading label.

Don't kid yourself and don't mislead others.

[dougdl]

Stop calling yourself pro-choice since the unborn has no choice. Maybe we should call you pro-narcissist, since you have other options or maybe pro-death.

[drspears]

Hmm, abortion = destroying a life. So anti-abortion would be anti-destroying a life. If we take the opposite of anti, which is pro, and the opposite of destroying life, which is supporting life, then we essentially have pro-life.

Pro-choice is the term that the selfish anti-life's use to make themselves feel less guilty for supporting the destruction of life. What a shame.

[tokitori]

Most "pro-lifers" believe in the Death Penalty and they believe in sending kids to die in wars.
Is it only Un-born life they care about?

[rosal]

Funny how these right wingers are always so "concerned" about the unborn, but once the chld is born they never ask if the child has enough food, health care, a good education, is not neglected, parents that make a living wage. Once the child is born, the focus is in not having their taxes raised. And if there is a war, they never protest about sending children ( 18 and over) to fight it, then everything is perfectly OK. People that care about all these issues, are the real Pro-Lifers

[frosty6731]

It makes sense when you consider that right wing ideology also places the importance of the life of a clumping of cells in a petri dish over the life of full grown human beings with families and lives involving thought and love who could benefit from stem cell research. "Social Conservatism" needs a serious priority check for sure.

[Mildmannered]

good posting, rosal

[BartLA]

Can we call these people what they are, "Pro-birth"? They are NOT Pro-Life. Once the child is born he's on his own. No health insurance? Too bad. Suffer.

[Bearangaria]

Yea verily.

[brindled dingo]

Ah yes, the Pontius Pilate washing of hands principle. I just love the way that these hard core God-people fraudulently use words to dissimulate the true nature of their own souls. Let's call a spade a bloody shovel already. These treacherous little pedants want women to propogate an army of babies so that they can later send them off on bogus ideological wars with so called "evildoers" all under the guise of doing "God'swill". These folk like fighting the good fight using other people to do it for them. IMO, they're nothing more than a shiver in search of a spine.

[Drummaboy]

How did that whole "Day without Gays" work out? Did anyone notice I think I missed it! The earth kept spinning on its axis...

[Bagger]

Honestly who really cares? The pastor is saying a prayer. So what? This is really stupid.

[Drummaboy]

well said

[PippiLongstocking]

Yep, pastors tend to pray. So...

[chillypre]

"we've lost 50 million babies , and most won't say a word"

So the pro life right would rather abort 50 million babies, rather then see them live on welfare? Not.

[L3ftofC3nter]

So now both the far left and the far right are angry???

Master plan at work???

[vjoseph]

Yes

[Magenta]

Sorry. It should be that it is only in the 1980s did the Lutheran Church renounce Martin Luther's anti-semite teachings.

[Magenta]

I would urge people to be careful when they talk about Christianity and Nazi Germany in the same context.

Please study Church History, starting with Martin Luther's seminal work i.e. "The Jews and their lies". German political and cultural history will also shed more light on this.

Yes, I'm referring to the Martin Luther, the German Christian, who was the father of the Protestant Movement against the Catholic Church. It is only in 1964 did the Lutheran church renounced their founder's anti-semitic belief.

Anti-semitism has been part of Church life, beliefs and history for ages. The first few crusades always start with Jewish genocide in Germany. Take that in mind along with the fact that Hitler was raised a Christian in a largely Protestant area in Germany.

Don't take my word for it. Please do some reading on your own if you are interested in the truth.

No offense intended.

[delta7777]

A REALLY STUPID AND INAPPROPRIATE CHOICE BECAUSE IT IS UNNECESSARILY POLARIZING TO INCITE CONTROVERSY OF THIS NATURE.
IT SIGNIFICANTLY DETRACTS FOCUS FROM ISSUES OF ECONOMY, JOBS, FORECLOSURES, SECURITY, INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS, HEALTH CARE, WALL STREET REGULATORY REFORM, ETC....

(no drama Obama??????)

[cjk002]

You completely invalidated your opinion when you submitted it in all caps.

[vjoseph]

LOL