Rumsfeld, Ashcroft Could Face Legal Jeopardy For War Abuses

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First Posted: 12-19-08 01:18 PM   |   Updated: 01-19-09 05:12 AM

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Newsweek:

The United States, like many countries, has a bad habit of committing wartime excesses and an even worse record of accounting for them afterward. But a remarkable string of recent events suggests that may finally be changing--and that top Bush administration officials could soon face legal jeopardy for prisoner abuse committed under their watch in the war on terror.

In early December, in a highly unusual move, a federal court in New York agreed to rehear a lawsuit against former Attorney General John Ashcroft brought by a Canadian citizen, Maher Arar. (Arar was a victim of the administration's extraordinary rendition program: he was seized by U.S. officials in 2002 while in transit through Kennedy Airport and deported to Syria, where he was tortured.) Then, on Dec. 15, the Supreme Court revived a lawsuit against Donald Rumsfeld by four Guantánamo detainees alleging abuse there--a reminder that the court, unlike the White House, will extend Constitutional protections to foreigners at Gitmo. Finally, in the same week the Senate Armed Service Committee, led by Carl Levin and John McCain, released a blistering report specifically blaming key administration figures for prisoner mistreatment and interrogation techniques that broke the law. The bipartisan report reads like a brief for the prosecution--calling, for example, Rumsfeld's behavior a "direct cause" of abuse. Analysts say it gives a green light to prosecutors, and supplies them with political cover and factual ammunition. Administration officials, with a few exceptions, deny wrongdoing. Vice President Dick Cheney says there was nothing improper with U.S. interrogation techniques--"we don't do torture," he repeated in an ABC interview on Dec. 15. The government blamed the worst abuses, such as those at Abu Ghraib, on a few bad apples.

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The United States, like many countries, has a bad habit of committing wartime excesses and an even worse record of accounting for them afterward. But a remarkable string of recent events suggests that...
The United States, like many countries, has a bad habit of committing wartime excesses and an even worse record of accounting for them afterward. But a remarkable string of recent events suggests that...
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the reichwingers who use the old testament are not saying anything about "an eye for an eye"? here are they? They are pretty quiet in their use of the old testament in the case of prosecuting Bush and Co? and stay focused on making women barefoot and pregnant again, and getting into gays' bedrooms.
Call me sadistic but I love giving people a lil taste of their own medicine. I would love to see Gonzo, Ashcroft, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perl, Bush, Tenent and Dumsfeld in a naked pyramid. That would be some pretty good justice. I would volunteer to have Bush on a leash and be pointing the fingers at them for the photo op with a cig in my mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 12/21/2008
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You nailed it!
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the reichwingers who use the old testament are not saying anything about "an eye for an eye"? here are they? They are pretty quiet in their use of the old testament in the case of prosecuting Bush and Co?
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That is what would convince the segment of the public that does not yet support impeachment. If each petition to impeach had one well-chosen Biblical quote, we could put them all away for life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 12/22/2008
- solarian I'm a Fan of solarian 15 fans permalink

yes they should have a trial. but don't we have to try congress to because they approved legislation authorizing that

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 12/20/2008
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Congress did not pass any legislation authorizing torture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 12/22/2008
- TrnsNtnl I'm a Fan of TrnsNtnl 2 fans permalink

I hope Obama prosecutes. Bush officials are responsible for millions of deaths around the globe and hate and fear of America groomed through torture and horrible foreign policy. They need to be held accountable so that the American public understands what happened and how our government ran away with the rights of the worlds people. For our future and the sake of history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 12/20/2008
- ashabot I'm a Fan of ashabot 10 fans permalink

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"Could?" Dis-goose-­tin....."C­OULD?!?!?!­?" As is ... oh maybe yes buuuuuut maybe no? What the hell has happened to America? Home of the free? Land of the brave? Or super-sized fools too beat to speak up? Silence is compliance..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 12/20/2008
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 261 fans permalink

Consequences?

There are consequences?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 12/20/2008

I'm sure not gonna hold my breath..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 12/20/2008
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omg look at dumsfeld in the photo lmao! that guy belonged in a nursing home long ago!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 12/20/2008
- ashabot I'm a Fan of ashabot 10 fans permalink

He belonged in jail a long time ago but as long as there's breath in him it's not too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 12/20/2008
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I think we need to circulate petitions, in House Congressional districts of Democrats not planning to support prosecution, and/or who have voted against Kucinich's articles of impeachment in the past.

Another HuffPo reader reports that Feinstein wrote back, saying that what we need is love, or unity or something, not responsibility for the Bush Administration. So we need to canvass Feinstein's district door-to-door.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 12/22/2008
- moongal6 I'm a Fan of moongal6 76 fans permalink
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Let's start with prosecuting Rumsfeld for the sales of lethal gases and toxins to Saddam Hussein in 1983 to allegedly gas his own people in Iraq. Then we'll work our way up to the more current war abuses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 12/19/2008

Maybe if enough republicans get really angry with Bush, they'll figure out that one of the very best ways to save themselves and their party would be to throw Bushco under a bus headed to the Hague, and publicly hold them accountable for 8 long years of immoral and criminal behavior that have left this nation and the world in a shambles of chaos, degeneration and hopelessness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 12/19/2008
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well, god, they would be pointing some huge damn fingers right at themselves, but then their supporters don't remember that far back, I guess, and the GOP counts on their short term memory problems. The GOP as well as most Dems were right in lockstep with them the entire time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 12/20/2008
- newshawk14 I'm a Fan of newshawk14 8 fans permalink

As for Donald Rumsfeld, I have no sympathy, but at least with Ashcroft, he did turn down the
importunities of Alberto Gonzales and Andrew Card, while very ill in a hospital bed, and instead
said that his deputy was now the attorney general.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 12/19/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 131 fans permalink
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never. Not as long as Pelosi and Reid are in the Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 12/19/2008
- Digeeedad I'm a Fan of Digeeedad 61 fans permalink

We're all doing some serious wishful thinking if we actually believe there will be any legal action taken agains Mr. "So" and Mr. "So What" and people in their administration for even the most blatant mistreatment and torture! The world has seen and we have come to agreee that our government is as corrupt as any other. None of our self-serving gov't officials have the courage to do anything that would jeapordise their cush jobs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 12/19/2008
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Failure to prosecute could "jeopardize their coosh jobs."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 12/22/2008
- aznurse I'm a Fan of aznurse 55 fans permalink

Maybe this sounds crazy, but I think this country is special and does represent hope for other countries and people around the world. This Bush administration (all of them) tried to destroy what is good about this country, but , by electing Obama we have the chance to get back on the right track again. I believe this is our destiny and Bush and his cronies will suffer deeply for what they have done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 12/19/2008
- newshawk14 I'm a Fan of newshawk14 8 fans permalink

aznurse, I would like to agree with you, but would also like to remind you of two occasions where
we failed to follow up on criminal activity in the government. Both were done with the connivance
of Lee Hamilton, the first was about the October Surprise, where it was alleged that the Reagan
people conspired to keep our people captive in Iran until after the election. The second, was
ignoring the fact that G. H. W. Bush perjured himself on the Iran-Contra affair. Hopefully we'll
all reject the idea, that Obama needs to condone criminal behavior in order to promote bipartisanship, although I can see republicans rabidly advancing this idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 12/19/2008
- Bluedog12 I'm a Fan of Bluedog12 14 fans permalink

Rummy. You go to court with the lawyer you have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 12/19/2008
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 257 fans permalink

I should bloody well hope these b@stards would be held accountable!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 12/19/2008
- Masarov I'm a Fan of Masarov 8 fans permalink

The following has been quoted ad nauseam, but I think that false patriots should read it until they learn it truly by heart: "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" (Franklin). "What?That lover of all things French?" (Rush Limbaugh misquoted but not misunderstood).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 12/19/2008
- Telemachus I'm a Fan of Telemachus 115 fans permalink

Rash Lamebrain? Is he still around?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 12/19/2008
- aznurse I'm a Fan of aznurse 55 fans permalink

he's very round

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 12/19/2008
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