AL FRANKEN RECOUNT LEAD: Final Count Still Needs To Be Settled

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BRIAN BAKST | December 23, 2008 11:12 PM EST | AP

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ST. PAUL, Minn. — Minnesota voters won't know who won the state's U.S. Senate race this year, and it's looking more likely that the new Congress will be sworn in before the race ends between Democrat Al Franken and Republican incumbent Norm Coleman.

The state Canvassing Board on Tuesday scheduled a Jan. 5 meeting and its chairman said the panel's work could spill into Jan. 6 _ the day the next Congress convenes.

Franken leads Coleman with an increasingly small number of ballots yet to consider. Franken finished the day up 47 votes, according to a preliminary report by the secretary of state's office. An earlier report by the office had placed the margin at 48 votes, but the Canvassing Board made one correction, costing Franken a vote.

For the second time in two weeks, the state Supreme Court got involved in the election, this time hearing arguments over ballots Coleman's campaign claims were double counted.

Secretary of State Mark Ritchie said there is no way the board will certify a winner this year.

"We are not in any way guided by any Washington consideration, timeline," said Ritchie, a Democrat. "These folks have people's lives in their hands."

Coleman's campaign disputed the allocation of some challenged ballots and called some of the board's rulings inconsistent. It said correcting the errors would have produced a 49-vote swing in Coleman's favor.

Franken's campaign has also brought to the board's attention some possible errors, which it says amounts to 43 potential votes in the Democrat's favor.

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The board will meet Dec. 30 to consider the allocation report.

In court Tuesday, Coleman attorney Roger Magnuson argued that dozens of voters in 25 precincts, mostly in Democratic-heavy Minneapolis, may have gotten two votes. The voters had ballots that couldn't be fed through counting machines, so duplicates were made by election judges. Coleman's campaign alleges that both duplicates and originals made it into the recount.

It urged the Supreme Court to reconcile the number of voters with the number of ballots and disqualify ballots when there is a mismatch. "This election will turn on double voting," Magnuson warned.

Justices repeatedly asked Coleman's campaign for hard evidence showing votes were counted twice. Magnuson said he needed a court order forcing the matchup of voter rolls and ballot counts to do that.

"You're asking for extraordinary relief," Justice Paul Anderson told him. "You're asking us to stop the Canvassing Board in its tracks."

Franken attorney Bill Pentelovitch said granting the request would force officials in all of Minnesota's 4,100-plus precincts to redo the recount. He said Coleman's campaign "cherry-picked" precincts in an effort to overturn rules it consented to before the recount.

"What they're really asking is to undo the rules under which this recount was done, and there will be chaos," Pentelovitch told the court.

Justices didn't say when they would rule, but election cases generally get expedited treatment.

Regardless of the outcome of that case, the vote totals could shift again when state officials open as many as 1,600 absentee ballots that were incorrectly rejected on Election Day. Franken's campaign fought for their inclusion, but it is anyone's guess how those votes will break.

The Supreme Court ruled last week that improperly rejected absentee ballots must be included in the state's recount. Under a proposal awaiting ratification, the board would count the ballots that recount officials and the campaigns agree were wrongly excluded from the earlier vote tallies, Ritchie said.

But that process is also laden with problems. Under a Supreme Court ruling last week, either campaign can object to the counting of each of the absentee ballots. The ballot would be set aside unless the voter heads to court for an order to count it, Ritchie said.

The race went into overtime because Coleman led Franken by 215 votes after the Nov. 4 count of about 2.9 million ballots. That was well within the automatic recount law triggered when races are within one half of one percentage point.

ST. PAUL, Minn. — Minnesota voters won't know who won the state's U.S. Senate race this year, and it's looking more likely that the new Congress will be sworn in before the race ends between Dem...
ST. PAUL, Minn. — Minnesota voters won't know who won the state's U.S. Senate race this year, and it's looking more likely that the new Congress will be sworn in before the race ends between Dem...
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Following a 2-month recount that has still not determined a winner in the Minnesota Senate race between incumbent Norm Coleman and challenger Al Franken, officials have decided on an age-old method to settle the matter – Rock Paper Scissors!

http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/politics/rock-paper-scissors-senate/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 12/23/2008
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 374 fans permalink
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Not a ridiculous perspective.

Should it turn out to be a tie for real, it will be decided by a coin flip.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 12/23/2008

Indeed. As I asked in an earlier post: didn't Coleman only win the first time because the early/absentee ballots cast for Wellstone before his death were NOT included in Mondale's total (who was nominated after Wellstone died and on the election day ballot) whereas Coleman was able to combine election day votes as well as early/absentee ballots?

If anyone has insight on this, I'd appreciate hearing it. Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 12/23/2008
- Antacid I'm a Fan of Antacid 8 fans permalink

I would like to proffer the insight that your electoral process is designed and run by poorly trained fruitbats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 12/23/2008
- Johnagain I'm a Fan of Johnagain 46 fans permalink
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Our electoral process is designed to run poorly. It is designed to allow cheating. How many other industrialized (or otherwise) democracies have the kinds of vote tallying problems that we have been witnessing in the last 10 years? With the technology that can produce an orbiting space station and HD TV, why can't we count votes honestly and accurately? It's because the politicians (particularly Republican ones) do not want it to happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 12/23/2008
- Centient I'm a Fan of Centient 4 fans permalink

I believe you're correct. At the time any absentee ballot cast for Wellstone was not considered a defacto vote for Mondale as the Dems had hoped. Rather absentee voters were allowed to request another ballot or show up at the polls on election day and recast their vote. Though with less than a week to go before the election it was pretty obvious this was a less than an ideal/fair solution. Former SoS and lunatic-fringer Mary Kiffmeyer, and the GOP, opposed a proposal to throw out all absentee votes and send out new ballots to all absentee voters and the State Supreme Court agreed with them. Ultimately the Coleman absentee votes were counted and Mondale likely lost out on numerous votes that he would have likely otherwise won.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 12/23/2008
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 374 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 12/23/2008
- dadd I'm a Fan of dadd 6 fans permalink

Just knowing that my fellow Americans could help put this hack into office gives me hope that someday, maybe I can run for office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 12/23/2008
- mikep007 I'm a Fan of mikep007 3 fans permalink

This is excellent news. I think Minnesota has had enough of Norm Coleman. Who most likely would have lost to Paul Wellstone anyways.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 12/23/2008
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Wellstone would have beat Coleman...­....Mondal­e as a last minute replacement was not a good idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 12/23/2008
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If MN had 'had enough of Coleman" as you say, then the election wouldn't be so close...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 12/23/2008
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