AL FRANKEN RECOUNT LEAD: Final Count Still Needs To Be Settled

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BRIAN BAKST | December 23, 2008 11:12 PM EST | AP

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ST. PAUL, Minn. — Minnesota voters won't know who won the state's U.S. Senate race this year, and it's looking more likely that the new Congress will be sworn in before the race ends between Democrat Al Franken and Republican incumbent Norm Coleman.

The state Canvassing Board on Tuesday scheduled a Jan. 5 meeting and its chairman said the panel's work could spill into Jan. 6 _ the day the next Congress convenes.

Franken leads Coleman with an increasingly small number of ballots yet to consider. Franken finished the day up 47 votes, according to a preliminary report by the secretary of state's office. An earlier report by the office had placed the margin at 48 votes, but the Canvassing Board made one correction, costing Franken a vote.

For the second time in two weeks, the state Supreme Court got involved in the election, this time hearing arguments over ballots Coleman's campaign claims were double counted.

Secretary of State Mark Ritchie said there is no way the board will certify a winner this year.

"We are not in any way guided by any Washington consideration, timeline," said Ritchie, a Democrat. "These folks have people's lives in their hands."

Coleman's campaign disputed the allocation of some challenged ballots and called some of the board's rulings inconsistent. It said correcting the errors would have produced a 49-vote swing in Coleman's favor.

Franken's campaign has also brought to the board's attention some possible errors, which it says amounts to 43 potential votes in the Democrat's favor.

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The board will meet Dec. 30 to consider the allocation report.

In court Tuesday, Coleman attorney Roger Magnuson argued that dozens of voters in 25 precincts, mostly in Democratic-heavy Minneapolis, may have gotten two votes. The voters had ballots that couldn't be fed through counting machines, so duplicates were made by election judges. Coleman's campaign alleges that both duplicates and originals made it into the recount.

It urged the Supreme Court to reconcile the number of voters with the number of ballots and disqualify ballots when there is a mismatch. "This election will turn on double voting," Magnuson warned.

Justices repeatedly asked Coleman's campaign for hard evidence showing votes were counted twice. Magnuson said he needed a court order forcing the matchup of voter rolls and ballot counts to do that.

"You're asking for extraordinary relief," Justice Paul Anderson told him. "You're asking us to stop the Canvassing Board in its tracks."

Franken attorney Bill Pentelovitch said granting the request would force officials in all of Minnesota's 4,100-plus precincts to redo the recount. He said Coleman's campaign "cherry-picked" precincts in an effort to overturn rules it consented to before the recount.

"What they're really asking is to undo the rules under which this recount was done, and there will be chaos," Pentelovitch told the court.

Justices didn't say when they would rule, but election cases generally get expedited treatment.

Regardless of the outcome of that case, the vote totals could shift again when state officials open as many as 1,600 absentee ballots that were incorrectly rejected on Election Day. Franken's campaign fought for their inclusion, but it is anyone's guess how those votes will break.

The Supreme Court ruled last week that improperly rejected absentee ballots must be included in the state's recount. Under a proposal awaiting ratification, the board would count the ballots that recount officials and the campaigns agree were wrongly excluded from the earlier vote tallies, Ritchie said.

But that process is also laden with problems. Under a Supreme Court ruling last week, either campaign can object to the counting of each of the absentee ballots. The ballot would be set aside unless the voter heads to court for an order to count it, Ritchie said.

The race went into overtime because Coleman led Franken by 215 votes after the Nov. 4 count of about 2.9 million ballots. That was well within the automatic recount law triggered when races are within one half of one percentage point.

ST. PAUL, Minn. — Minnesota voters won't know who won the state's U.S. Senate race this year, and it's looking more likely that the new Congress will be sworn in before the race ends between Dem...
ST. PAUL, Minn. — Minnesota voters won't know who won the state's U.S. Senate race this year, and it's looking more likely that the new Congress will be sworn in before the race ends between Dem...
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Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 12/23/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 24 fans permalink
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I'm proud of you AL, for sticking with it, not like Cave-in-Kerry who let the REPUGS "STEAL" Ohio in '04 from under him.

We need more (understatement) DEMS with a spine like you who are ready to FIGHT for what they DESERVE!

Good Luck, AL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 12/23/2008
- Chapmanp2 I'm a Fan of Chapmanp2 15 fans permalink

Franken has scrapped for every single vote to count. The person clinging is Coleman (to power) which would keep him in a much better position to fight the corruption charges he's facing...
GO FRANKEN!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 12/23/2008
- cblcar I'm a Fan of cblcar 6 fans permalink

Will this soap opera ever end? And why does no one question Franken's experience, but piles on Caroline Kennedy?

Don't get me wrong. I hope Al wins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 12/23/2008
- Centient I'm a Fan of Centient 4 fans permalink

To be fair, Franken moved to MN a couple of years before the election and started running a pretty vigorous campaign throughout the state. Plenty of folks did and do question his experience, but he was able to put his face out there long enough for people to get more comfortable with the idea of him as a political figure. Doesn't hurt that he's been deeply political for many years, and is quite comfortable when discussing the ins and outs of policy and his views.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 12/23/2008
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 378 fans permalink
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Not to mention that he grew up in Minnesota.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 12/23/2008
- devanate I'm a Fan of devanate 9 fans permalink
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They're trying to treat Kennedy like Palin. Only Kennedy actually has a law degree and knows how to write.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 12/23/2008
- sarimn00 I'm a Fan of sarimn00 4 fans permalink
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Don't forget to mention that she knows how to put an actual sentence together, too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 12/23/2008
- MBryant I'm a Fan of MBryant 21 fans permalink
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Bloggers will blog.. but there is one big qualification for public service
get more votes than the other person...

Palin's qualifications were questioned because she was chosen by John McCain. She'd won some elections - in Wasilla and in one of the nation's smallest states.
Caroline Kennedy's qualifications can be questioned if she's appointed Senator - but she likely run and win...
I thought Obama a little underqualified for my vote, but so far superior to the alternative I add my qualification to the millions of of others he has on Nov 4th.

Franken, win or lose, also has more than a million qualifications - more votes cast for him than Sarah Palin ever has.

Pro wrestlers?, Actor/Body­builders?, First Ladies? They are all qualified ... if they win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 12/23/2008
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KungFuSanta

Member Since December 2008

Kung-fu Santa Wish List:

1. A warm body to replace my bl ow-up girlfriend
2. to finally break through that minimum wage barrier.
3. a basket of those pink pretty smelling soaps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 12/23/2008
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He only has 20 posts all on this thread. He is obviously an old friend/troll who just signed up to aggravate us on this thread till he gets banned?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 12/23/2008
- ere I'm a Fan of ere 50 fans permalink

it's a little kid that is home from school

ignore it

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 12/23/2008
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His blowup doll broke up with him.



heh

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 12/23/2008
- Episcopagan I'm a Fan of Episcopagan 141 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 12/23/2008
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Now that the liberals have been thoroughly embarrassed by their support of Caroline Kennedy, they are here latching onto their final punchline.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 12/23/2008
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It's people like you who are destroying the very fabric of our great country.

You havent paid attention to one thing the PE has said.

Sad

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 12/23/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1611 fans permalink
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Remember what happened on November 4?
(hint: your @$$ is missing)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 12/23/2008
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Who is embarresed? I am not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 12/23/2008
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you better re-do your research, most liberals have panned Caroline, it's the center-left that have backed her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 12/23/2008
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Apple pays Chuck Norris 99 cents every time he listens to a song.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 12/23/2008
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Which song?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 12/23/2008
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My Sharona

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 12/23/2008
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Chuck Norris can eat just one Lay's potato chip.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 12/23/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 330 fans permalink
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Y-M-C-A
:-D

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 12/23/2008
- KataVideo I'm a Fan of KataVideo 47 fans permalink
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"I'm coming' out!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 12/23/2008
- wedgie I'm a Fan of wedgie 18 fans permalink
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Yay AL!!!!

Fight team fight!!!

Rah, rah, rah!

YAY!!!!!

(Frantic pom pom shaking.)

**

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 12/23/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1611 fans permalink
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ere:

Jamaica is good, and also the Weekend at the Beach.

You rock! (or Jazz!)
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 12/23/2008
- ere I'm a Fan of ere 50 fans permalink

Thanks mon

Wait til ya hear the new album (we're almost finished)

The new drummer is amazing

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 12/23/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1611 fans permalink
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Let us know when it is released. I'll buy a couple of copies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 12/23/2008

Remember Al:

"...someti­mes you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 12/23/2008
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Ever watch Al's bit in "Dead Ahead?" Hilarious.­.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 12/23/2008
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"I had one of those flashes, like I've been here before" (in 2000)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 12/23/2008
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F Y I Kung fu santa: Your neither funny, witty, or entertaining in the least bit.
Although I can guess what your doing everytime you see your name appear on this thread.
Hopefully you will finish yourself off soon and be gone

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 12/23/2008
- ere I'm a Fan of ere 50 fans permalink

It seems this time of year
Many people like to make me fear
That because I don't believe I don't belong
And though it sucks to feel this way
It happens every day
So I felt like I just had to write this song

So go drive your SUV
To buy your christmas tree
So you can decorate your place
And shove your religion in my face
Sing your christmas song
To remind me I don't belong
Cuz I don't believe in god
And I hate christmas

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 12/23/2008

To Al....win baby win!
To all those pulling for Norm....ju­st what has he done as Senator???? help me out.
To Minnesota-why is this even close and why is Michelle Bachman still representing?
To St Cloud Minnesota-Merry Xmas and many beers to my old college town.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 12/23/2008
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 378 fans permalink
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Heh, you went to *The Cloud*?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 12/23/2008
- amdezurik I'm a Fan of amdezurik 38 fans permalink

I went to Apollo HS there and a year of coolege :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 12/23/2008
- amdezurik I'm a Fan of amdezurik 38 fans permalink

LOL look at my last name :P

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 12/23/2008
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Time to starting checking out Franken's birth certificate. Must have been born in some Commie country for sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 12/23/2008
- nick1936 I'm a Fan of nick1936 17 fans permalink

Send this thing to the new Senate for settlement keep it out of the courts hands

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 12/23/2008
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