CALIFORNIA BROKE? State Could Run Out Of Money In Two Months, Says Official

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JUDY LIN | 12/23/08 09:15 PM | AP

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California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger speaks about delays in funding for infrastructure projects due to the state budget crisis during a news conference near a Sacramento River levee in disrepair in Sacramento, Calif., on Tuesday, Dec. 23, 2008. (AP Photo/Steve Yeater)

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — With Republicans on the sidelines, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic leaders met Tuesday to fashion a midyear fix for California's swelling budget deficit.

Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg emerged from the initial round of discussions and told reporters the talks had been positive. Less than a week ago, Schwarzenegger had threatened to veto the Democratic budget plan that is the basis for the current discussions.

"We're all very committed to making an $18 billion dent into this problem before the end of the year," said Steinberg, D-Sacramento. "That's our obligation."

Steinberg said he hoped leaders could reach a deal by the end of the week and planned to resume talks Friday, likely by teleconference because the governor had left California for the Christmas holiday. He said a legislative vote on a compromise could come next week.

The Democratic plan would begin to address the deficit with $9.3 billion in tax and fee increases, $7.3 billion in cuts and another $1.5 billion in labor concessions, court rollbacks and other moves.

Republicans oppose it because of the tax increases. Last week, Schwarzenegger said he would veto it because it failed to include sufficient measures to stimulate the state's economy.

But California's ballooning deficit _ projected to hit $42 billion over the next 18 months _ is leading to severe consequences that have forced Schwarzenegger and Democrats to act quickly.

On Monday, the state controller warned that California will run out of cash within 70 days if lawmakers don't act quickly to bridge the growing divide between revenue and spending.

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Steinberg said he and Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, D-Los Angeles, were willing to give Schwarzenegger more of what he wanted. That could include making concessions on labor rules and environmental regulations to accelerate work on infrastructure projects, agreeing to build more toll roads in the state and expanding help to homeowners facing foreclosure.

The Democratic leaders said they also were trying to accommodate the governor's demands for additional spending cuts, including eliminating two of 14 paid state holidays. Doing so would save an estimated $114 million during this fiscal year and the next one, mostly in overtime costs.

Republicans did not participate in Tuesday's budget negotiations.

Senate Minority Leader Dave Cogdill, R-Modesto, said Republicans would return to the Capitol if a deal were to be reached but said his caucus remained opposed to the package. He and other Republicans believe it is illegal because it contains tax increases yet was passed without a two-thirds vote in the Legislature.

"There's nothing for us to talk about today," said Cogdill, strolling through the Capitol in jeans and a leather jacket.

Anti-tax groups have vowed to sue if Schwarzenegger signs the plan, challenging its legality. Proposition 13, passed by voters 30 years ago, requires a two-thirds vote by lawmakers to raise taxes.

Democrats say they have found a way to get around the two-thirds requirement by claiming their $18 billion plan does not technically increase the amount of taxes on Californians.

Instead, they say it eliminates gas taxes and replaces them with a variety of other charges, including raising the state sales tax by three-quarters of a percentage point, boosting personal income taxes by 2.5 percent, taxing companies that extract oil from California and collecting taxes from independent contractors upfront.

It then replaces the gas taxes with what Democrats call a gasoline fee that would go solely to transportation projects. Because the fee is dedicated to a single purpose, it does not require a two-thirds vote, Democrats say.

Schwarzenegger has said it is necessary to raise taxes, but his opinion about the method contained in the Democratic plan is uncertain. Last week, he called the Democrats' proposal a "terrible budget" that would "punish the people of California." And in a meeting with local leaders in the Central Valley last week, he said their plan included "illegal taxes."

It was not clear Tuesday why the governor had decided to negotiate on a plan that only days ago he said contained provisions that were not legal. His spokesman, Aaron McLear, said Schwarzenegger would not sign anything that is illegal.

After meeting with the Democratic leaders, Schwarzenegger was asked whether he would sign a budget plan that contained tax increases but was passed only by a simple-majority vote.

"I prefer having my Republican friends at the table, and I prefer to get a two-thirds vote. But we do need revenue increases," he said. "To save California, I'm forced to negotiate just with the Democrats. This is the situation I am forced in because of lack of participation by the Republicans."

Schwarzenegger said he would let others debate the plan's legality, ultimately deciding "what is a fee and what is a tax?"

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — With Republicans on the sidelines, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic leaders met Tuesday to fashion a midyear fix for California's swelling budget deficit. Senate P...
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — With Republicans on the sidelines, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic leaders met Tuesday to fashion a midyear fix for California's swelling budget deficit. Senate P...
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They only run out of money because they can't print like the fed. If the economicaly biggest state in the US is broke, doensn't that mean the US is. I guess Schwartzy is not bowing to some environmentally insane Bush demands..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 12/23/2008

No, it's because Repugs in the Assembly and Senate don't want any tax raises whatsoever, and aren't willing to COMPROMISE, and with a need of 66% of both bodies to pass anything, 1/3 of the elected representatives get to make sure that the filthy rich in California don't pay their FAIR SHARE OF TAXES!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 12/23/2008
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Does "Chapter 11" also apply for US-states or for federal or state-agencies?

I really don't know. Just asking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 12/23/2008

There actually is an entirely separate chapter for municipalities. It is called Chapter 9. 11 usc 901 et seq

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 12/23/2008
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Why is it that one state is running out of money--California--yet others are doing quite well?

Is it a shortfall in tax revenue or state expenditures?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 12/23/2008
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I'm not so certain other states are doing quite well. Have your researched this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 12/23/2008
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No but I have heard on the radio that about 13 state budgets are facing a shortfall. That leads me to believe other states are not.

Do you have info that can shed light on this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 12/23/2008
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It's because California is a net-payer to the Union, while other states gain more than they pay - aka Alaska et alii.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 12/23/2008
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I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that California's shortfall has something to do with the Federal budget?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 12/23/2008

Vote republican if you don't like wealth transfers...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 12/23/2008
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That is actually not true. There are 37 states that are in financial trouble, including California.

The only reason that California is making the news and the others aren't is because the MSM thinks that everyone wants to know about California. Hollywood and all that I guess.

http://www.cbpp.org/9-8-08sfp.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 12/23/2008
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Whoops, that is 43 states, not 37.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 12/23/2008
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It has a lot to do with Prop 13, and the property tax shortfall that resulted from it.

It's a structural issue in the state tax system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 12/23/2008
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The state can't get a budget passed. The Dems tried to raise taxes by making everything a "fee." Arnold shot that down. Then the Reps. vote down everything.

It's a mess.

Arnold actually isn't unpopular with the public, but the mess in CA is, obviously, mortgage related. Property taxes are falling as we speak. Retail tax money.....evaporated. But the state budget didn't go away, alas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 12/23/2008

Simple solution: cut the state in two: east and left, not north and south. The inner hillbilly red areas can go on with no taxes whatsoever run by right-wing Repugnantcans, who can make I80 over the Sierras a toll road, close the public schools and make them private so that only the rich can afford to send their kids to school, and when forest fires start, since their won't be any public fire station, because of no taxes, private fire departments come to put out fires of those who pay for the private service, oh yeh, and one more: slavery returns in the Central Valley so that the crop pickers don't have to be paid, so that the growers get more profits. The West coastal areas can be run like a civlized society, in which everyone pays their fair share of taxes, no huge corporations are given tax subsidies, spending is paid for on an as-you-go system, no more borrowing money from anywhere, and if the rich don't like it, they can move to some 3rd-world type of state, like Eastern California, or Alaska, or Mississippi!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 12/23/2008
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Do you even live in the state? I grew up in California and have family in the Eastern part of the state - In one of the most liberal areas in all of the state - The gold country. What a dumb idea

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 12/23/2008
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If you think that the West coastal areas run like a civilized society, please think again. The coast is rampant with white collar crime. Build a house on a hill in Malibu, have it slide down a burned out hill and sue the city for damages. After all, they were responsible for issuing the building permit. Then rebuild, and start the process over again. It's the Houseman rule (remember that "I earned it" statement?). He made millions off the tax payers in LA county.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 12/23/2008

A republican succeeded in ruining the richest country in the world.
Another republican succeeded in ruining the fifth economy in the world.
Sigh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 12/23/2008

The comments are hilarious, blame the Republicans for a State DOMINATED by the LEFT. California is dominated by Unions, specifically the CCPOA. Your hospitals are overrun by illegals looking for FREE CARE. You are taxing the citizenry like crazy to try to pay for everything for everybody.

You need to CUT SPENDING

We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. -- Winston Churchill



Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. -- Frederic Bastiat

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 12/23/2008

California need a "Total Recall"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 12/23/2008

It's Bush's fault.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 12/23/2008
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Legalize pot. The cost savings on law enforcement, the extra tax revenue, the new crops for farmers, and new jobs created will help a bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 12/23/2008
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plus it will help the rest of us feel better

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 12/23/2008
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and we won't care about all the economic turmoil we're all in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 12/23/2008
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Can you imagine all the money spent on indicting Tommy Chang for selling bongs on the Internet, interstate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 12/23/2008
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Considering my guy is out of stock right now, I am especially inclined to agree with you :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 12/23/2008
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another misleading headline by H u f f P o.

Vital news source or grocery store rag?
D I S C U S S

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 12/23/2008
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Do what the right wing wants let the government go into bankruptcy sounds like a good answer to me. That includes the big business and banks what is good for one is good enough for the next.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 12/23/2008
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Does "Chapter 11" also apply for federal or state-agencies?

I really don't know. Just asking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 12/23/2008
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they'll get there after the rest of us go down

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 12/23/2008
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This is the expensive cost that Californian must pay, for choosing Robocop to run their state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 12/23/2008
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The situation was awful before he stepped up to the plate. I'm not sure anybody could fix it. It's amazing -- you have these enormously wealthy people living an extremely luxurious lifestyle, but the state is falling apart. Of course, you also have many people who can barely pay the bills. The differences between the haves and the have-nots in that state is STARK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 12/23/2008

What strikes me is the fear in Arnold's eyes and the tremble in his voice. Some leader.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 12/23/2008

and he wants to be Prezildent

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 12/23/2008
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heckuva job Ahnie

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 12/23/2008
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Thank God Arnold won't be able to be President of the United States, he is a C RAPPY politician, just like Raygun. Even if the Constitution were amended to where Arnold could run, he won't be able to gain the support of the Palinites who consider him too liberal to vote for.

Just like Bush, Arnold started off with low ratings and is ending with low ratings. California was screwed under Grey Davis, and is 100X more screwed now under Schwarzenegger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 12/23/2008
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Dear, CA
thanks for cutting money on education. now I have to pay more in fees. it really shows you care about my future.

-----Starving student from California.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 12/23/2008
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what you don't know won't hurt you i guess.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 12/23/2008
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at least you got in. most seniors are being told to go out of state or go to Junior College.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 12/23/2008

Take out a student loan like everyone else. Also, ask how much your professors and administrators make.

You wonder why colleges are dominated by liberals until you realize they work 20-30 hours a week, have tons of vacation time, get the government to subsidize them, have HUGE salaries and can charge and arm and a leg to both the taxpayer (through the government) and the students.

Then the brain wash the students to think the LEFT is the way to go to continue the constant flow of money into their ELITIST pockets.

College professor is possibly the easiest job in the world. I can't wait till I retire and teach

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 12/23/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 72 fans permalink

Don't you think mortgage banker is a better deal? Or CEO of some financial institution?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 12/23/2008
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