CALIFORNIA BROKE? State Could Run Out Of Money In Two Months, Says Official

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JUDY LIN | 12/23/08 09:15 PM | AP

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California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger speaks about delays in funding for infrastructure projects due to the state budget crisis during a news conference near a Sacramento River levee in disrepair in Sacramento, Calif., on Tuesday, Dec. 23, 2008. (AP Photo/Steve Yeater)

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — With Republicans on the sidelines, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic leaders met Tuesday to fashion a midyear fix for California's swelling budget deficit.

Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg emerged from the initial round of discussions and told reporters the talks had been positive. Less than a week ago, Schwarzenegger had threatened to veto the Democratic budget plan that is the basis for the current discussions.

"We're all very committed to making an $18 billion dent into this problem before the end of the year," said Steinberg, D-Sacramento. "That's our obligation."

Steinberg said he hoped leaders could reach a deal by the end of the week and planned to resume talks Friday, likely by teleconference because the governor had left California for the Christmas holiday. He said a legislative vote on a compromise could come next week.

The Democratic plan would begin to address the deficit with $9.3 billion in tax and fee increases, $7.3 billion in cuts and another $1.5 billion in labor concessions, court rollbacks and other moves.

Republicans oppose it because of the tax increases. Last week, Schwarzenegger said he would veto it because it failed to include sufficient measures to stimulate the state's economy.

But California's ballooning deficit _ projected to hit $42 billion over the next 18 months _ is leading to severe consequences that have forced Schwarzenegger and Democrats to act quickly.

On Monday, the state controller warned that California will run out of cash within 70 days if lawmakers don't act quickly to bridge the growing divide between revenue and spending.

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Steinberg said he and Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, D-Los Angeles, were willing to give Schwarzenegger more of what he wanted. That could include making concessions on labor rules and environmental regulations to accelerate work on infrastructure projects, agreeing to build more toll roads in the state and expanding help to homeowners facing foreclosure.

The Democratic leaders said they also were trying to accommodate the governor's demands for additional spending cuts, including eliminating two of 14 paid state holidays. Doing so would save an estimated $114 million during this fiscal year and the next one, mostly in overtime costs.

Republicans did not participate in Tuesday's budget negotiations.

Senate Minority Leader Dave Cogdill, R-Modesto, said Republicans would return to the Capitol if a deal were to be reached but said his caucus remained opposed to the package. He and other Republicans believe it is illegal because it contains tax increases yet was passed without a two-thirds vote in the Legislature.

"There's nothing for us to talk about today," said Cogdill, strolling through the Capitol in jeans and a leather jacket.

Anti-tax groups have vowed to sue if Schwarzenegger signs the plan, challenging its legality. Proposition 13, passed by voters 30 years ago, requires a two-thirds vote by lawmakers to raise taxes.

Democrats say they have found a way to get around the two-thirds requirement by claiming their $18 billion plan does not technically increase the amount of taxes on Californians.

Instead, they say it eliminates gas taxes and replaces them with a variety of other charges, including raising the state sales tax by three-quarters of a percentage point, boosting personal income taxes by 2.5 percent, taxing companies that extract oil from California and collecting taxes from independent contractors upfront.

It then replaces the gas taxes with what Democrats call a gasoline fee that would go solely to transportation projects. Because the fee is dedicated to a single purpose, it does not require a two-thirds vote, Democrats say.

Schwarzenegger has said it is necessary to raise taxes, but his opinion about the method contained in the Democratic plan is uncertain. Last week, he called the Democrats' proposal a "terrible budget" that would "punish the people of California." And in a meeting with local leaders in the Central Valley last week, he said their plan included "illegal taxes."

It was not clear Tuesday why the governor had decided to negotiate on a plan that only days ago he said contained provisions that were not legal. His spokesman, Aaron McLear, said Schwarzenegger would not sign anything that is illegal.

After meeting with the Democratic leaders, Schwarzenegger was asked whether he would sign a budget plan that contained tax increases but was passed only by a simple-majority vote.

"I prefer having my Republican friends at the table, and I prefer to get a two-thirds vote. But we do need revenue increases," he said. "To save California, I'm forced to negotiate just with the Democrats. This is the situation I am forced in because of lack of participation by the Republicans."

Schwarzenegger said he would let others debate the plan's legality, ultimately deciding "what is a fee and what is a tax?"

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — With Republicans on the sidelines, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic leaders met Tuesday to fashion a midyear fix for California's swelling budget deficit. Senate P...
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — With Republicans on the sidelines, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic leaders met Tuesday to fashion a midyear fix for California's swelling budget deficit. Senate P...
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Californian's...you rip what you plant. You elected an actor so that he can act. Schwarzenegger is an empty ballon full of hot air. What do you except from a republican? A BETTER ECONOMY? All they like to do is destroy just about everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 12/23/2008
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It just gets worse. I wonder how many other states are in this predicament...just as we wondered how many more banks would need a bailout and how many more companies outside that sector would need one (the auto makers). In the end it will be the Bailout Bunny (the taxpayer) who will need the bailout, but who will be a position to do that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 12/23/2008
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china was willing until the meltdown. don't know where we go now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 12/23/2008
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Learning Chinese might help -- Mandarin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 12/23/2008
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The bailout bunny -- that's funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 12/23/2008
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 236 fans permalink
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanold!!!!

Good thing Schwarzenegger kicked out Davis. Otherwise... um... err... Caleeeeefornia might have gone bankrupt SOONER!!!!!

Yeah, that's it, that's our meme. Call Limbaugh and O'Reilly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 12/23/2008
- lovsn12b I'm a Fan of lovsn12b 3 fans permalink
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IF PEOPLE WANT SERVICES SUCH AS FIRE - POLICE - LIBRARIES - HOSPITALS AND GOOD ROADS AND MODERN TRANSPORTATION THEY JUST DO NOT SEEM TO GET IT. "You have to PAY for it." In Minnesota this was not a problem as the second generation Scandinavians realized this from their parent's home of Sweden and Norway. ONE CAN HAVE A WONDERFUL STATE WITH GOOD SCHOOLS IF YOU JUST PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TAXES - LIKE EVEN $5 PER YEAR PER SINGLE PERSON. BUT NO EVERY POLITICIAN IS AFRAID TO RAISE TAXES. IT SUCKS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 12/23/2008
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Republicans want all of those things.

They just believe that somebody else should pay for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 12/23/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 70 fans permalink

True enough. People complain about the cost of education; however, it is much cheaper than child care. At five dollars an hour for six hours and an average of 30 students per classroom, a teacher generates $900 per day or $18,000 per a 20 day month.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 12/23/2008

Just tax the bigots, they'll be rolling in cash in no time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 12/23/2008
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Huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 12/23/2008
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* Total Fans of protogenes : 0

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 12/23/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 70 fans permalink

Good one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 12/23/2008
- bluguy8 I'm a Fan of bluguy8 25 fans permalink

Arnold baby what happened ? and you want to be President--no way , you can't even keep your state afloat . No bailouits--enough already..every state has to do what they have to do--they can't all be bailed out. theres no more money

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 12/23/2008
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I VANT TO BE PRESIDENT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 12/23/2008
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California is not the only state that will be facing "wipeout" in the near future.
The manufactured crisis of 'disaster capitalism" to justify $700 Billions giveaway
to companies being squeezed by market forces, mismanagement and malfeasance, was simply
that, a bogus crisis.
Case in point, first the Paulson naked grab for power
with his five sentences paper; second case in point: JP Morgan's utter disregard for accountability as to what they have done with the taxpayers’ money given to them as "bailout" money.
The market forces have not been allowed to work as they should because that is not how
Capitalism works. It is all a raiding of the cookies jar so as to leave little room for maneuverability for the next administration.
If that $700 Billion bailout would have been a $4 Billion handout to each state, it would only have cost 4x51, including Puerto Rico and the tab would have been $204 Billion and the economy would be better off.
If they have so much money for corporate welfare, why did they claim for years they had no money to spend for schools, roads, and hospital, and things that benefit the American people that they claim to love so much.
Enough said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 12/23/2008
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gosh, maybe arnold is qualified to run for president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 12/23/2008
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Except for that pesky Constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 12/23/2008
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bush never let that stop him

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 12/23/2008
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Don't you know Obama's Kenyan?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 12/23/2008
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IS there one left?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 12/23/2008
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If you're a Republican, it means you are exempt from the Constitution. I think it's written in there somewhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 12/23/2008
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Paulson for VP?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 12/23/2008
- Heavy I'm a Fan of Heavy 245 fans permalink
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Couldn't run a fever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 12/23/2008
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This is the mess the conservatives have gotten us into, we need to stop the GOP iraq quagmire drain from our economy, $10+ billion per month! also we need to stop illegal immigrants from crossing the border, we dont have the recources to support all the poor from mexico!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 12/23/2008

Ehn? Liberals run the state, not conservatives. As opposed to conservative Texas, which is currently one of the most prosperous states in the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 12/23/2008
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Oil

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 12/23/2008
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so that's where the money went

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 12/23/2008
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Typical false right-wing comparison.

Texas has horrid services for the poor, and a dreadful educational system.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 12/23/2008
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Texas will never be forgiven for giving the country Bush. You guys voted for Bush for govneror -- nuff said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 12/23/2008

Apples and oranges. Did you conservatives not learn anything the last 8 years, particularly on Nov. 4th???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 12/23/2008

It comes down to honesty. Can governments honestly answer the question, "How are we going to pay for it?" Borrowed money is like gravity - over time it gets you. Go big and it's a black hole. We are all in the last stages of denial as we feel the pull downward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 12/23/2008
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OT. Water main break in MD. Wow! Sending prayers...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 12/23/2008
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Unreal. That looks like a Southern Az wash in July.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 12/23/2008
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Bridges falling, water mains are breaking. Obama is right, we need to invest in repairing our infrastructures. Year after year no bid contracts are shelled out at tax payer expense, and yet we are still so unsafe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 12/23/2008
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You just know that Mika is profoundly worried about her dad. Did you hear her remark about the *dark suv*?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 12/23/2008
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I am so glad Obama wants to spend money on our infrastructure. Boy has it been neglected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 12/23/2008

What happened to the dude in the picture?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 12/23/2008
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he got wet

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 12/23/2008
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california seems to have been on the brink of financial disaster for years. that's what helped the govenator get into office. maybe the state is just too big to be managed and needs to do be divided in two.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 12/23/2008
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Too big to fail?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 12/23/2008

Or maybe it just needs a serious cut in its spending.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 12/23/2008

Google "California financial crisis" and you'll see that this state has been in a cyclical series of crises for decades. The problem is that every time things are going well, they make financial decisions that create long term structural deficits inevitable. Now they want to increase taxes in a down cycle which is the worst possible approach. This will drive more companies out of business (or at least out of the state).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 12/23/2008
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Oh - I see Mika's blouse. I don't think she went home last night. wink wink

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 12/23/2008
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She was att@cked mercilessly for that top earlier. I thought it was rather festive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 12/23/2008
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It is festive. I'll give you that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 12/23/2008
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I think it looks great on her, but it's wholly inappropriate for the occasion and time of day, imnsho ;).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 12/23/2008
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It's lovely, if a little formal for early morning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 12/23/2008
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Yes, but your taste isn't exactly de rigueur in the fashion world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 12/23/2008
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Mika is a ding a ling, dontcha think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 12/23/2008
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Interesting that it takes a 2/3 vote to pass a tax increase, but only a majority vote to take away gay people's right to marry. Obviously, the solution to California's economic woes is to ask Rev. Warren to pray for God's help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 12/23/2008
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Bitter ey?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 12/23/2008

You can't "take away" something that doesn't exist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 12/23/2008
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Funny, but that is exactly what California just did.

Again, you illustrate the perils of being willfully uninformed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 12/23/2008
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