Vatican Rewrites History On Galileo

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First Posted: 12-23-08 07:38 PM   |   Updated: 01-23-09 05:12 AM

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Galileo Galilei is going from heretic to hero.

The Vatican is recasting the most famous victim of its Inquisition as a man of faith, just in time for the 400th anniversary of Galileo's telescope and the U.N.-designated International Year of Astronomy next year.

Pope Benedict XVI paid tribute to the Italian astronomer and physicist Sunday, saying he and other scientists had helped the faithful better understand and "contemplate with gratitude the Lord's works."

In May, several Vatican officials will participate in an international conference to re-examine the Galileo affair, and top Vatican officials are now saying Galileo should be named the "patron" of the dialogue between faith and reason.

It's quite a reversal of fortune for Galileo Galilei (1564-1642), who made the first complete astronomical telescope and used it to gather evidence that the Earth revolved around the sun. Church teaching at the time placed Earth at the center of the universe.

The church denounced Galileo's theory as dangerous to the faith, but Galileo defied its warnings. Tried as a heretic in 1633 and forced to recant, he was sentenced to life imprisonment, later changed to house arrest.

The Church has for years been striving to shed its reputation for being hostile to science, in part by producing top-notch research out of its own telescope.

In 1992, Pope John Paul II declared that the ruling against Galileo was an error resulting from "tragic mutual incomprehension."

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But that apparently wasn't enough. In January, Benedict canceled a speech at Rome's La Sapienza University after a group of professors, citing the Galileo episode and depicting Benedict as a religious figure opposed to science, argued that he shouldn't speak at a public university.

The Galileo anniversary appears to be giving the Vatican new impetus to put the matter to rest. In doing so, Vatican officials are stressing Galileo's faith as well as his science, to show the two are not mutually exclusive.

At a Vatican conference last month entitled "Science 400 Years after Galileo Galilei," the Vatican No. 2, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, said Galileo was an astronomer, but one who "lovingly cultivated his faith and his profound religious conviction."

"Galileo Galilei was a man of faith who saw nature as a book authored by God," Bertone said.

The head of the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Culture, which co-sponsored the conference, went further. Archbishop Gianfranco Ravasi told Vatican Radio that Galileo "could become for some the ideal patron for a dialogue between science and faith."

He said Galileo's writings offered a "path" to explore how faith and reason were not incompatible.

The Rev. John Padberg, a church historian and the director of the Institute of Jesuit Sources at St. Louis University, said he suspected the Vatican's new emphasis on Galileo's faith came from the pope himself.

"Pope Benedict XVI is ardently convinced of the congruence of faith and reason, and he is concerned, especially in the present circumstances, of giving reason its due place in the whole scheme of things," he said.

While it is widely accepted that Galileo was a convinced Catholic, Padberg questioned whether he could ever be accepted as some kind of a poster child for the faith and reason debate. "That's going to be a long shot for an awful lot of people, on both sides, by the way," he said.

Benedict, a theologian, has made exploring the faith-reason relationship a key aspect of his papacy, and has directed his daily newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano, in particular, to take up the charge.

On Monday, the newspaper published a piece on the possibility of alien life on other planets as well as one on the popes who were "friendly" to astronomy.

Benedict clearly is: In his Sunday blessing, he noted that the Vatican itself has its own meridian -- an obelisk in St. Peter's Square -- and that astronomy had long been used to signal prayer times for the faithful.

But the Vatican's embrace of Galileo only goes so far.

There were plans earlier this year to give Galileo a permanent place of honor in the Vatican to mark the anniversary of his telescope: a statue, to be located inside the Vatican gardens, donated by the Italian aerospace giant Finmeccanica SpA.

The plans were suspended after some Vatican officials voiced "problems" with the initiative, said Nicola Cabibbo, the president of the Pontifical Council for Science. He declined to elaborate.

Finmeccanica spokesman Roberto Alatri said the Galileo statue was just an idea that never got off the ground.

Italian news reports suggested the Vatican simply didn't want to draw so much permanent attention to the Galileo episode, which 400 years on, still rankles some.

"The dramatic clash between Galileo and some men of the Church left wounds that are still open today," the Vatican's chief astronomer, the Rev. Jose Funes, wrote recently in Osservatore. "The Church in some ways has recognized its errors.

"Maybe it could do better. One can always do better," he wrote.

Galileo Galilei is going from heretic to hero. The Vatican is recasting the most famous victim of its Inquisition as a man of faith, just in time for the 400th anniversary of Galileo's telescope and ...
Galileo Galilei is going from heretic to hero. The Vatican is recasting the most famous victim of its Inquisition as a man of faith, just in time for the 400th anniversary of Galileo's telescope and ...
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I'm sure that he's happy to hear that his house arrest will end soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 12/24/2008
- METAL I'm a Fan of METAL 2 fans permalink

All hail the space-god or die at the tip of our sword anything which contradicts our big fat book of B*llshit. Funny how you cherry-pick science only when it serves you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 12/24/2008
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 220 fans permalink
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Not everyone can be right every time. But we should probably strive to admit our wrongs in fewer than 400 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 12/24/2008
- mjeffn I'm a Fan of mjeffn 27 fans permalink

Are you ffckng kidding me? This is the 21st, not the 17th, century for crying out load. I heard of wishing for the good old days but this, takes the cake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 12/24/2008
- kennybean I'm a Fan of kennybean 21 fans permalink
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"The Church has for years been striving to shed its reputation for being hostile to science, in part by producing top-notch research out of its own telescope."

This sentence is top-notch comedy. I can't stop laughing!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 12/24/2008
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 115 fans permalink
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Hah hah hah hah

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 AM on 12/24/2008
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Truth is independent of belief.
Lies require faith to survive.

Gallileo basically kicked the legs out from the Church's claim to being infallibly true. Now, they're admitting it. And condemning their own previous position.

When the Word of God is a lie, and the Church admits it, what's left for them now? They're ethically bankrupt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 12/24/2008
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Maybe this will be a seminal moment in humankind's freedom from Faith!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 12/24/2008

I thought priests were too busy molesting boys to pay attention to astronomy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 12/24/2008
- kennybean I'm a Fan of kennybean 21 fans permalink
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Even if each one molested say, 6 boys per day, that would still leave them PLENTY of time to pretend to be supportive of science.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 12/24/2008

Hi Agent 420. A fundamental teaching of Buddhism is that there is no (separate) self, nothing that was born and nothing that will die. There is no separate soul that migrates from one body to the next. Have you ever known someone who is a lot like their grandpa or grandma, or "someone else"? :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 12/24/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 85 fans permalink
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I thought Buddhists believed in reincarnation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 12/25/2008
- gcallaghan I'm a Fan of gcallaghan 52 fans permalink
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Galileo finally cleared of heresy? Someone ought to dig him up and tell him the good news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 12/24/2008
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Maybe the missing books from the bible will be returned soon, too

Oh, and the editing corrected, as well. I particularly like the original source of the Sermon on the Mount.

Can you tell I was one of those kids getting kicked out of Catholic school religion classes, for asking all the 'wrong' questions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 12/24/2008
- bby328 I'm a Fan of bby328 17 fans permalink
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There's hope for #43 yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 12/24/2008
- ultomatt I'm a Fan of ultomatt 13 fans permalink

Hmmm, 400 years? Perhaps in 400 years they'll rewrite the history of the 20th century plague of priest pedophiles that the Catholic church created, nurtured and ultimately protected. Perhaps, one day, in those many centuries ahead, they won't lament what the pedophiles did to the church, more what they did to their victims and to the lives of those who loved them.

I believe the best old saying is...a pox on them all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 12/23/2008

Confined to only priests? And not bishops? Or higher?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 12/24/2008
- ultomatt I'm a Fan of ultomatt 13 fans permalink

Any who were involved in these crimes in any way, and/or enabled those crimes in any way, should be subject to the law. As far as I recall, bishops, cardinals and god forbid, popes, aren't immune to THE LAW. In this scandal it appears that they are.

I believe the pope was aware of these crimes and either did nothing to reveal them, or actually physically protected the pedophile priests by moving (or helping support the moving of) them to a different diocese where they were free to continue their pedophilia with unwitting children that should have been protected from such violations. Any who knew of this, and did nothing, should face legal consequences. This is unacceptable in a civilized society.

The pope on down the line...top to bottom. They're all priests, just some have fancier clothes and digs than others. They may be tax exempt, but they shouldn't be law exempt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 12/24/2008
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C'mon here, give the Catholic Church a break. At least they endorse the
theory of evolution, while the fundamentalists still think the earth is flat.
FD's bend science to fit their dubious religious beliefs. At least the Catholics
are pragmatic about science and have rejected nonsensical interpretations
of scriptures, years ago. Will the FD's ever catch up? Not until the Second Coming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 12/23/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 85 fans permalink
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"have rejected nonsensical interpretations of scriptures" ???

Really? They now reject all miracles? I think NOT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 12/25/2008
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Perhaps in another 400 years, the various religious right-wing churches will apologize for denying the validity of evolution and will raise a monument to Darwin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 12/23/2008
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"....and top Vatican officials are now saying Galileo should be named the "patron" of the dialogue between faith and reason."

Faith is the absence of reason.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 12/23/2008

On the contrary, faith is the ground of reason.

I have yet to find a consistent atheist, esp. of the materialist variety. For starters, a consistent atheist would have to believe that their consciousness is an illusion. Just the electrons bouncing around in a certain way giving "you" the illusion.

You accept your own rationality. But if you weren't designed for any particular purpose, you have no reason to assume the veracity of your own thoughts. You believe what you believe because the atoms are bouncing around in your brain in a certain way. Not because they are true.

I'd be careful if I were you not to throw stones at faith. Faith undergirds reason.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 12/24/2008
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As an athiest, I consistently believe I have a spiritual purpose, despite the bounding atoms in my illusive head. I do not, for a nanosecond, believe my spirituality is associated with a superior omnipresent/omnipotent being. That, Sir, is the fundamental difference between us.

So you should be careful not to discount the value of spirituality. Spirituality is the essence of faith, and is far more reasonable than religion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 12/24/2008
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I beg to differ geof, I'm not at all sure why I would have to believe my consciousness is an illusion, nor am I at all sure what "electrons" bouncing around you are speaking of. Are you trying to "sound" smart, or do you really have something educated to offer?

First off, my consciousness is an emergent property of thousands of years of evolution, culminating in a reasonably predictable phenomena. Starting from the laws of Physics, progressing through the laws of Chemistry, ultimately affecting the laws of Biology through the mechanism of Evolution, the only predictable outcome would be the effect of self-awareness. Given a few thousand more years to evolve, it is highly likely that other branches of the ancestral tree will also achieve sentience.

Faith, allows its followers to believe that WE are the preeminent construct of their God. This of course is an utterly ignorant, species-centric perspective, that has no reason on which to base its belief. Just as we have NOT BEEN the dominant species on the earth for the entirety of its history, so we are not likely to remain the dominant species for the entirety of its remaining life. To think otherwise is to deny history and reason, something that only a person of "faith" can do.

p.s. Just so you know where to start in composing your reply, should you feel the need; lets begin with agreeing that "atoms" DO NOT "bounce around in your brain". Okay?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 12/24/2008
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Pardon me, Geoff, but -- utter rubbish. 'Faith' undermines reason because it refuses to allow itself to be questioned. If anything, scepticism is "the ground of reason".

I'm more of an agnostic than an atheist myself. But I'm married to precisely the kind of atheist you claim never to have found. I can only conclude that you've never tried very hard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 12/24/2008

Geoff-

You are guilty of circular reasoning. You write, "but if you weren't designed for any particular purpose, you have no reason to assume the veracity of your own thoughts."
How can I know that I have been designed for any particular purpose, and, how can I discover the purpose I've been designed for? Through reason, right? How do I know reason is a reliable method? Because I've been designed for a purpose! How do I know "I've been designed for a purpose" is true? Through reason! How can I trust my knowledge that I've been designed for a reason? Because reason is a reliable method to gain knowledge! How do I know this? Because I've been designed for a reason!

Even still, your position is actually committed to something more than me being designed for a purpose for knowledge to be possible. On your account, it takes more than just me having been designed for a purpose to for me to know the truth of my thoughts. Additionally, it takes knowledge that I have been designed for a purpose for me to know my thoughts are true. If I were designed for a purpose, but I didn't know it, then I would have no reason to trust my thoughts. I have to be able to establish that I have a purpose to establish the validity of reason, and such a proof constitutes my knowledge of my purpose. This further commitment of your position is what makes it circular.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 12/24/2008

At best, you are arguing that philosophical skepticism is solved by justification, and that knowledge itself is grounded in a method distinct from the scientific method- faith. However, faith is not a reliable method for determining truth.

At worst, you are advocating that wanting something to be true makes it true, and this is surely a false theory of truth.

And, before you accuse me of being an atheist, I would like to point out that that a person can hold that religion in general is not true without making theistic claims. He just needs to hold that religious knowledge is impossible, and hold the principle that for something to be true, a person has to be able to know, in principle, that it is true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 12/24/2008
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