Festivus Pole On Display At Illinois State Capitol

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First Posted: 12-25-08 03:34 PM   |   Updated: 01-25-09 05:12 AM

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SPRINGFIELD -- In the world of the TV sitcom "Seinfeld," Festivus is a goofy, high-tension Christmas substitute dreamt up by George Costanza's angry dad. Revelers gathered around an aluminum pole and couldn't leave until someone pinned the head of the household to the floor.

Festivus is still good for a laugh among "Seinfeld" loyalists, even 11 years after the episode was first broadcast.

Funny, but nobody's laughing much about the Festivus pole that popped up under the dome of the Illinois Capitol this week.

Not the people who set up the nearby nativity scene.

"I think it's a mockery," said Dan Zanoza, chairman of the Springfield Nativity Scene Committee.

Not the atheists who set up their own Capitol display.

"If the state's going to create a forum for religion at this time of year, which we do not approve of, this is what's going to happen," said Annie Laurie Gaylor of the Freedom from Religion Foundation.

Even the 18-year-old who created the pole isn't laughing much. State workers, he gripes, set it up too far out of the way for anyone to see.

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"I'm halfway thinking about complaining about the location," Michael Tennenhouse said.

Festivus was, after all, a holiday built around the airing of grievances.

"I got a lot of problems with you people!" Frank Costanza told family and others gathered for his odd, uncomfortable holiday. "And now you're gonna' hear about it!"

Atheists' gripes over nativity

Illinois' Festivus tale opened with the atheists' gripes over Zanoza's nativity. The Freedom from Religion Foundation won permission to put up a sign after the nativity went up early this month.

"There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell," the sign reads. "There is only our natural world."

The Madison, Wis.-based group has set up similar displays around the nation, including one in Olympia, Wash., that caught the attention of Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly and led to protests by his viewers.

"It doesn't make sense to have a public forum for religion in December in a state capitol," Gaylor said. "It just clutters everything up."

The chatter about the issue gave Tennenhouse the idea. The high school senior and member of the American Civil Liberties Union is home in Springfield for a break from his Lake Forest boarding school.

His parents reluctantly contributed the aluminum handle from their swimming pool skimmer, and Tennenhouse and his 13-year-old bother, Matt, applied for a permit to put up a Festivus pole in the Capitol.

The state, much to Tennenhouse's surprise, didn't turn him down.

Nathan Maddox, senior legal adviser with the Illinois Secretary of State's office, says the state couldn't legally deny Tennenhouse's right to free expression.

So, on Tuesday, up went the pole, along with a printed poster that included an e-mail address, friendsforfestivus@gmail.com, and a message that reads, in part:

"Although Festivus is traditionally celebrated Dec. 23, the people of Illinois have had to begin 'Grievance Airing' early this year. Hopefully we can conclude Festivus before February."

Tennenhouse's message is part political, he says, noting the reference to the corruption charges facing Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich. And it's a little ideological -- the teenager says the Capitol is no place for religious symbols.

But something else was at work in Tennenhouse's plan: boredom.

"I'm here for three weeks and I really don't have much else to do."

Zanoza wishes Tennenhouse had found something -- just about anything -- else to do.

"I give more credence to the atheists' sign," said the 55-year-old Zanoza, who lives in Lincoln. "At least they represent a position, a belief, or a lack of belief."

Gaylor doesn't mind the Festivus pole, as long as Illinois insists on allowing holiday symbols into the statehouse. But she counts her blessings that she lives in Madison -- Wisconsin's capital.

"The nice thing here is we do not have a nativity," she said.

Tennenhouse and his brother went to the Illinois statehouse Tuesday, just to gauge the response to their blue aluminum pole. There wasn't much, he said, because it's tucked away in a corner of the rotunda where few people are likely to see it.

Maybe that's OK, he says. Even a little humorous.

"Ours is kind of ridiculous," he admits. "I think it's kind of funny that it got up there."

SPRINGFIELD -- In the world of the TV sitcom "Seinfeld," Festivus is a goofy, high-tension Christmas substitute dreamt up by George Costanza's angry dad. Revelers gathered around an aluminum pole and ...
SPRINGFIELD -- In the world of the TV sitcom "Seinfeld," Festivus is a goofy, high-tension Christmas substitute dreamt up by George Costanza's angry dad. Revelers gathered around an aluminum pole and ...
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- BushBites I'm a Fan of BushBites 31 fans permalink

Has to be driving the Fundies nuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 12/29/2008
- ptillen I'm a Fan of ptillen 6 fans permalink
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I find tinsel distracting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 12/26/2008

Let the airing of grievances begin! I think this is hilarious. Once you allow anyone to put up a symbol to their private 'religion", then you must allow everybody to. I would like to see a display for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, as it makes as much sense as any other religion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 12/26/2008
- Telemachus I'm a Fan of Telemachus 116 fans permalink

I want to see a goddess dancing on that pole, 24/7. Anything less would deprive me of my free exercise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 12/26/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 130 fans permalink
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You can see that pole at your local lounge. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 12/26/2008
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 63 fans permalink
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"Festivus for the rest of us!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 12/26/2008
- illinoisan I'm a Fan of illinoisan 24 fans permalink
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Genius. We are redeemed.

We do have an airing of grievences going on in one of the committee rooms. It's called an impeachment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 12/26/2008
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Festivus Amongus...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 12/26/2008
- JScott I'm a Fan of JScott 20 fans permalink

For a minute there I thought this was a mashup of Seinfeld and the Simpsons---hey you tubers go to it!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 12/26/2008
- Halter I'm a Fan of Halter 9 fans permalink
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Anyone know of any traditional Festivus songs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 12/26/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 130 fans permalink
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There's one on the last page, musical accompaniment and all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 12/26/2008
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99 bottles of beer on the wall...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 12/26/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 130 fans permalink
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Oh Festivus, oh Festivus, the holiday for the rest of us.
We have our pole, tis tinsel free, and feats of strength, who needs a tree?
Oh Festivus, oh Festivus, the holiday for the rest of us.....
No gifts required, and nothing sought, no mall trips planned, no bullshit bought,
Oh Festivus, oh Festivus the holiday for the rest of us!

http://www.festivusbook.com/node/74

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 12/26/2008
- Halter I'm a Fan of Halter 9 fans permalink
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Thanks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 12/28/2008
- peterg76 I'm a Fan of peterg76 30 fans permalink
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How can people get so excited about Christmas, which is far more about the Cult of Consumerism than Christianity, rather than Easter, which in contrast is easily more than 50% religious?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 12/25/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 130 fans permalink
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Wait'll Easter comes around: sex and chocolate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 12/26/2008
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And both stolen from pagan holidays.D­id you know that after Mithras,the son of the sun god Ahura-Mazd­a,sacrific­ed hiimself for mankind on Good Friday and was resurrected on Easter,and about three hundred years before Jesus,at least,according to his cult?And Christmas was dreamed up to replace the drunken orgies various pagan cults had at the end of the year.

The whole Christian cult is a mess of plagiarism and asshattery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 12/26/2008

'and you want to be my latex salesman'. seinfeld still rocks. we all could use a bit of holiday cheer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 12/25/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 130 fans permalink
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On the relative merits of holidays: Festivus vs Kitsmas
http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/TemplateView.aspx?tiid=880798

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 12/25/2008
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Can we have both? Kittehs are master grievance airers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 AM on 12/26/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 130 fans permalink
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Absolutely! What Americe needs is a good two week holiday!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 12/26/2008

It's a festivus miracle!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 12/25/2008

Where is the representative of the Church of SubGenius, J.R. "Bob" Dobbs?
I'm appalled, shocked and outraged by this omission.
But mostly just enjoying my "Bob"-given slack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 12/25/2008
- pakaal I'm a Fan of pakaal 33 fans permalink
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Meh. I'd have preferred a representation of the Flying Spaghetti Monster myself, and not only because He caresses me with his Noodly Appendages.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 12/25/2008
- illinoisan I'm a Fan of illinoisan 24 fans permalink
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The atheist display got stolen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 12/26/2008
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