Bruce Jeffrey Pardo: 'Santa' Shooter Planned To Flee To Canada

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CHRISTINA HOAG | December 26, 2008 10:32 PM EST | AP

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This photograph provided by the Covina Calif. Police Department shows a burned out Dodge Caliber automobile, Thursday, Dec. 25, 2008 in the Sylmar area of Los Angeles that Bruce Pardo drove to his brother's house before committing suicide. Before the suicide, Pardo used remnants of the Santa suit to booby-trap his rental car to explode. (AP Photo/Covina Police Department)

COVINA, Calif. — A man who carried out a Christmas Eve massacre and arson dressed as Santa at the home of his former in-laws apparently intended to flee the U.S., but his plans were dashed after the inferno he created severely burned his arms and melted his red costume onto his body, police said Friday.

Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, a laid-off aerospace worker, apparently shot some of his nine victims execution-style in a plot to destroy his ex-wife's family after a costly divorce that was finalized last week. He had an airline ticket for a Christmas morning flight to Canada and $17,000 in cash on his body, some attached to his legs with plastic wrap and some in a girdle, Covina police Chief Kim Raney said. He did not know the Canadian destination.

Armed with four guns, wearing the Santa suit and carrying a fuel-spraying device wrapped like a present, Pardo showed up at the home at 11:30 p.m. Wednesday as a party of about 25 people was under way.

Raney said Pardo, 45, fired a shot into the face of an 8-year-old girl who answered the door and at first fired indiscriminately, then apparently targeted relatives of his ex-wife as other guests fled.

"There's some information that he stood over them and shot them execution-style," Raney said.

Pardo retreated to the front door and retrieved a device that mixed carbon dioxide or oxygen with high-octane racing fuel, police said. Fleeing guests saw him spraying the fuel inside the house when the vapor was ignited, possibly by a pilot light or a candle, and exploded.

"Mr. Pardo was severely injured during that explosion," Raney said. "He suffered third-degree burns on both arms and it also appears that the Santa Claus suit that he was wearing did melt onto his body."

Pardo was able to drive to his brother's home in the Sylmar area of Los Angeles, broke in and shot himself in the head. His brother discovered the body early Thursday.

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Before the suicide, Pardo used remnants of the Santa suit to booby-trap his rental car to explode, the chief said.

Raney said Pardo wired the suit so when it was lifted it "would pull a trip wire or a switch, ignite a flare inside the car that would then ignite black powder and he had several hundred rounds of handgun ammunition inside the car."

The device went off as a bomb squad worked to disarm it Thursday, but no one was hurt.

Police said Pardo had no criminal record or history of violence, and neighbors and others knew him as a friendly man who walked his dog and was a volunteer usher at his parish church.

Authorities released 911 calls filled with frantic appeals for help: "My mom's house is on fire!" said a caller phoning from a neighbor's house. "He's still shooting at them!"

The fire was so intense that no bodies have been identified because of charring, but police Lt. Tim Doonan said all were Pardo's former relatives. He declined to say whether his ex-wife and her parents were among them, but said they were unaccounted for. The victims were believed to range in age from 17 to 80.

Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center spokeswoman Adelaida De La Cerda said the 8-year-old girl who was shot in the face was released from the hospital Friday. Her mother had been at the hospital and was "extremely traumatized," De La Cerda said.

Her cousin, a 16-year-old girl brought in for observation, had superficial injuries and was released Thursday. The teenager's mother was Bruce Pardo's ex-wife, De La Cerda said. Also injured was a woman who broke her ankle when jumping from a second-story window.

David Salgado, a neighbor, said he saw the 8-year-old victim being escorted to an ambulance by four SWAT officers as fire devoured the house. He identified the owners of the home as Sylvia Pardo's parents, Joseph and Alicia Ortega.

"It was really ugly," Salgado said.

When the fire was extinguished early Thursday, officers found three charred bodies in the living room area. Investigators found five more bodies amid the ashes later in the day. Coroner's Lt. Larry Dietz said a ninth body was found Friday morning.

Police found two handguns at the home of Pardo's brother, and two more in the Covina home. All were empty.

A search of Pardo's own home in Montrose, a suburb northeast of Los Angeles, turned up racing fuel, five empty boxes for high-powered semiautomatic handguns and two high-powered shotguns.

The police chief said Pardo had no military experience, and in a resume he claimed to have a bachelor's and master's degree in electrical engineering.

Court records show Pardo's ex-wife Sylvia Pardo, 43, filed for a dissolution of marriage on March 24, 2008, and they were legally separated after about two years of marriage. The two reached a settlement on Dec. 18.

Bruce Pardo owed her $10,000 as part of the settlement, according to court documents that detailed a bitter split. He also lost a dog he doted on and did not get back a valuable wedding ring.

"No counseling or delay could help restore this marriage," the settlement stated. "There are irreconcilable differences which have led to the complete breakdown of the marriage."

The couple had no children together, but Bruce Pardo had a son from a previous relationship, Raney said.

Bruce Pardo had been employed at ITT Electronic Systems, Radar Systems, in Van Nuys from February 2005 to July 2008, according to court documents. Raney, however, said Pardo was terminated in October, and according to family members disappeared for a month while possibly traveling to the Midwest or East Coast before returning this month.

Pardo's resume also claimed he worked at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory from 1985-1994, the police chief said. The lab could not confirm the claim Friday.

Bruce Pardo wrote in a legal declaration that he was laid off in July and had been denied state unemployment payments in August. He said he was "desperately seeking" work with many companies.

"I was not given a severance package from my last employer at termination and I am not receiving any other income. I am desperately seeking work and have since applied to many companies, resulting in several job interviews," he wrote. "I ask for support just until I gain employment."

Bruce Pardo complained in a court declaration that Sylvia Pardo was living with her parents, not paying rent, and had spent lavishly on a luxury car, gambling trips to Las Vegas, meals at fine restaurants, massages and golf lessons.

Documents from the divorce show Bruce Pardo got their house, which was valued at more than $500,000, but the couple only had $106,000 in equity in it. The mortgage was $2,700 a month, a declaration said.

He complained in a filing that he had monthly expenses of $8,900 and ran a monthly deficit of $2,678.

In June, the court ordered him to pay $1,785 a month in spousal support and put him on a payment plan of $450 a month for $3,570 that was unpaid.

His attorney, Stanley Silver, told The Associated Press his client had trouble making the support payments after he lost his job in July, but spousal support was waived in the settlement last week. Bruce Pardo was trying to pay $10,000 to finalize the divorce proceedings, Silver said, and he never showed any anger or instability.

"All of my dealings with him were always pleasant and cheerful," said Silver, who heard from him last on Tuesday.

Friends and neighbors described Bruce Pardo as a cheerful man who seemed upbeat and doted on a big, brown Akita he owned with his former wife.

Jan Detanna, head usher at the Holy Redeemer Catholic Church in Montrose, said Pardo signed up to usher during the Christmas Eve service and always volunteered as an usher at the 5:30 p.m. Sunday service _ the children's Mass.

"He was very outgoing, he was very friendly. He always greeted you with a smile, he was a pretty big guy and had a firm handshake," said Detanna, who didn't know Pardo was going through a divorce. "It's a shock to everybody that knew him. You just don't know what's going on sometimes."

Pardo's neighbor, George Tataje, 39, said his dog and Pardo's Akita would play together at a park, but he didn't speak to him much. Other neighbors frequently saw him working on his lawn and walking his dog.

At his home in Montrose, Christmas lights decorated the roof and plastic nutcracker soldiers and striped candy canes were attached to a fence that edged a neatly trimmed lawn.

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Associated Press writers Daisy Nguyen, Anthony McCartney, Shaya Tayefe Mohajer, Robert Jablon and Gillian Flaccus in Los Angeles and Solvej Schou in Montrose contributed to this report.

COVINA, Calif. — A man who carried out a Christmas Eve massacre and arson dressed as Santa at the home of his former in-laws apparently intended to flee the U.S., but his plans were dashed after...
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- eilish I'm a Fan of eilish 16 fans permalink
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I always read about the gun control issue when tragedies like this one are reported. I believe that old adage: If guns are banned, only criminals will have guns. Criminals can easily get them - only the average, law-abiding American won't have those contacts. And just exactly how do you enforce gun control on a nation with millions of guns already in circulation? House to house searches? Now that's democratic. Well, it would certainly employ some real upstanding people, now wouldn't it. Sort of resemble a war zone in which America removes the weapons protecting the populace of the latest country we have invaded.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 12/26/2008
- dutchman I'm a Fan of dutchman 360 fans permalink
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"And just exactly how do you enforce gun control on a nation with millions of guns already in circulation?"

I think Chris Rock - not usually the guy I would turn to for gun policy - has it right: Tax each bullet at $5,000. Eventually the number of shootings will go down, if for no other reason than people can't afford them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 12/26/2008
- Yves Papa I'm a Fan of Yves Papa 14 fans permalink

Who is going to join you in your new black market bullet business? I bet that you could find fine associates with people involved in the cigarette contraband.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 12/26/2008
- dphilip I'm a Fan of dphilip 41 fans permalink

Great Idea......­...then let's tax every word critical of the United States or the military at $5000.00 per word....Th­en all this harmful rhetoric will go away...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 12/26/2008
- ladyv I'm a Fan of ladyv 25 fans permalink

It's not that difficult to manufacture bullets. Wouldn't work. People could make their own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 12/26/2008

> If guns are banned, only criminals will have guns

So what good does it do if both criminals AND non-criminals have guns?

What good did free and easy access to guns do for the people inside the house?

If a society bans lawn darts as a recreational toy, then guns also have no place in the landscape of consumer products. At the very least, gun makers should not be shielded by special laws that prevent lawsuits against them for injuries or death caused by the *proper* and *willfull* and *non-accidental* use of their products.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 12/26/2008
- dphilip I'm a Fan of dphilip 41 fans permalink

Did the victims in the house have firearms available to use? I haven't heard that reported..­.

About 30 years ago a guy in Tampa FL went into a grocery store with a 5 gal. bucket of gas. Threw it on people in the checkout line, threw down a match and walked out..I believe 5 or 6 people died and several more critically injured...­quite creative wasn't he?.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 12/26/2008
- berzelius I'm a Fan of berzelius 4 fans permalink

banning lawn darts as toys is rediculous­....and my brother got stabbed in the shoulder by one as a kid. Right to bear arms sound familiar. Suing a gun manufacturer of a gun if someone kills someone with it is as dumb as suing craftsman for making a hammer that someone uses to club someone over the head with or Ford for a hit and run.

Enough with the frivolous lawsuits. Its one of the big reasons for healthcare problems. Enough with the array of laws and restrictions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 12/27/2008
- MyLowell I'm a Fan of MyLowell 5 fans permalink
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i agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 12/26/2008
- Artemis34 I'm a Fan of Artemis34 161 fans permalink
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To your point, this guy was an average Joe, and maybe a bit of gun control would have stopped him from having an arsenal at his disposal. No one needs the fire power he had for personal use. These excessive purchases should have set off alarms. And this data can be detected at the point of sale (POS). No house to house search necessary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 12/27/2008

I'm glad this animal terminated himself. My prayers are with the victims.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 12/26/2008

Terrible crime..my heart goes out to the family of the those killed. Maybe it's about time we seriously reformed gun laws and offered more comprehensive mental health treatment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 12/26/2008
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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Not sure how guns caused this

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 12/26/2008
- daedelus I'm a Fan of daedelus 36 fans permalink
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I doubt that he would have tried to express his rage with a can-opener.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 12/26/2008
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He shot an 8-year-old girl in the face, and you're not sure how guns caused this????? Hello???? Earth to Chimrija ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 12/26/2008
- marred I'm a Fan of marred 6 fans permalink

Guns didn't cause this. An unstable sociopath with guns caused this. Take a look around the world and tell me where else these shooting massacres happen on a monthly basis. It's the gun culture in america that is the problem. Most blockbuster movies show your problems can be solved by shooting them and it doesn't help that they are available in sporting goods stores. In my immediate circle of friends I don't know anyone who owns a gun here in Australia or anyone who has ever owned a gun but ask an American and I think you all know the answer to that question.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 12/26/2008
- senorlou I'm a Fan of senorlou 123 fans permalink

Very sad. I've heard from lawyers that handling divorce cases is very stressful because it often becomes very, very ugly. Usually it's about money. Anyway, very sad tale.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 12/26/2008
- Adrienne Williams - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Adrienne Williams 187 fans permalink

Mental Depression is a silent k.i.l.l.e.­r.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 12/26/2008
- Adrienne Williams - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Adrienne Williams 187 fans permalink

Another issue on why we need education about mental health in this country! Though most people who are depressed do not kill others, it's still apart of the larger picture. So sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 12/26/2008

Our media should stop lying to the American people. But if they do that, let news story would be available. Less people would be kurting each other.

For years we are told we are a super power. We have military bases all over the world which has been costing the tax payers billions for years. Well, the house of cards, funny mirrors and all the other magic slight of hand movements are no longer working.

We are all in a hole the size of the grand canyon. For the poor, they are already down that is all they know to do without stuff. the middle class have been living off plastic money and jobs with the loud ticking sound "any day now you will go away". It is those people, who do not handle it well.

However, the super rich people are not handling this current " 50Billion Jewish Madoff stealing from other Jews". Some of them can ot handle the thought being poor or looking dumb having been scammed.

Black people have been taking their anger out on each other for years. Since the victim is also black the mass media, the justice department with courts,law­yers,polic­e,and criminal investigations, and the burial,flowers markets making big $$$. So these people don't care, it is only black people hurting themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 12/26/2008
- majii I'm a Fan of majii 14 fans permalink

Don't you mean "some" black people? There are millions of African Americans who don't resort to violence and anger to solve their problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 12/26/2008

In reponse to madein america proud: I think you need help

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 12/27/2008

The late Rodney Dangerfield, in one of his standup routines, spoke of a man who, for some unknown reason, picks up an axe one day and wipes out his whole family and kills himself. When the media asked friends and relatives what type of person the killer was, they all said he was a quiet, pleasant, nice man and always had a smile for everybody. The point here is that some people are walking time bombs and no amount of anger management therapy is going to help. The killer in this case shot an 8 year old child in the face and burned at least 8 people to death. He was at the point where he wasn't going to listen to anybody or anything. A seemingly nice, pleasant man with a smile for everybody who was also a massacre waiting for a place to happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 12/26/2008

hows the Dangerfield joke end?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 12/26/2008
- daedelus I'm a Fan of daedelus 36 fans permalink
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"He was a quiet man."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 12/26/2008
- dems08 I'm a Fan of dems08 181 fans permalink
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Guns + unstable people = disasters.

The tanking of the economy, the enormous number of damaged Iraq veterans, the blatant divisiveness of the republicans (see bush, cheney, mccain, palin, et. al), have greatly increased the number of unstable persons in our country capable of this type of action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 12/26/2008

I came to the comment section wondering how many I would have to read before someone implicated W is some way for this tragedy. Your path etic comment was the first I read. Do you understand the bitter irony of your comment about "blatant divisiveness" when you attempt to frame this disaster in political terms?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 12/26/2008
- Garrett123 I'm a Fan of Garrett123 8 fans permalink

Interesting you came here looking for a fight and found one. heh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 12/26/2008
- Garrett123 I'm a Fan of Garrett123 8 fans permalink

So you came here looking for a fi ght and found one. Seems like you should be smug now, oh you are. Good for you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 12/26/2008
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 39 fans permalink
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it's not over, watch the fallout as unemployment benefits dry up, charities run out of money for the unprecidented homeless and jobless, i saw people streaming do the donation shelter with their kids mor ethan ever the guy said. this is what one may say is a indirect Bush effect, the fallout of massive unemployemnt and a dried up job market is will be higher crime, watch it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 12/26/2008
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The guy had a job and was not an Iraq vet and was likely influenced by his recent divorce not a speech by Sarah Palin. Jeez.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 12/26/2008
- shockmagog I'm a Fan of shockmagog 139 fans permalink
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I don't think this tragedy can be couched in political terms. However, the proliferation of guns (and their easy attainability) does tend to exacerbate matters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 12/26/2008
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 66 fans permalink
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That's fcking ridiculous. This has nothing to with the Rethugs, lets not shift the blame on this one. The man was crazy, pure and simple

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 12/26/2008

Adversarial means there is a huge disagreement on how to settle assets accrued from a marriage.
it becomes adversarial went two people can't see eye to eye..but really does that mean a person must become fill with rage and violent because he doesn't want a divorce and the other partner is ready to move on.
People are no longer able to disagree without the threat of one pulling a gun or weapon out of
anger...A divorce is the end, whether one partner gets a tv or the other a car..where is the justification that
he's angry so yeah pull a gun out and start shooting?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 12/26/2008

I find it hard to believe that people are any more violently disagreeable today as in decades or centuries past. I would point to selective reporting or investigating by journalists and police, respectively, and the profound increase in the number of times people have the opportunity to meet people and therefore disagree each consecutive decade. These cases of violence are less a creation of a new world order than a throwback to an old one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 12/26/2008
- geneven I'm a Fan of geneven 6 fans permalink

The Internet makes it easier to find other people who are disagreeable and coordinate acts of violence. Other technologies make certain kinds of violence possible. No one in the Middle Ages flew planes to topple the WTC. Technology can magnify violence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 12/26/2008
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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Duels and years-long violent feuds used to be pretty common. Duels were legal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 12/26/2008
- Chaimirija I'm a Fan of Chaimirija 56 fans permalink
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nah, it means one or both have issues and need to take their anger our on someone else. It is an added bonus that there are like minded attorneys and other proefessionals who can participate and make alot of money too!

Merry Christmas, America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 12/26/2008
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Well, Divorce attorneys don't help one bit. They add fuel to the fires by instigating each party. That way the fight gets more intense, and they (lawyers) are used more hours and make more money.

Question: "Who keeps all the money in a divorce?"

Answer: The lawyers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 12/26/2008
- rroy I'm a Fan of rroy 8 fans permalink

Life can at times be very confusing and contradictory!
Society,ch­urches,gov­ernment leaders in just about every civic organisation in existance constantly,and perhaps justifiably,drills into our psyches,jingoisms like "Family Values,Family morality,
"togetherness"male dominance and moreal leadership­.our military bombards our consciousness with same things,along with motives for fighting an often eroneously conceived "enemy".
Then the courts come along and pull the legs out of these instilled values.Why should we be surprised when the person on the receiving end of this anymocity goes off the deep end and looses all sense of reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 12/26/2008
- Bulbul I'm a Fan of Bulbul 45 fans permalink
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Home grown terrorist, kills innocents. Not much different than what just happened in Mumbai . Only difference would be, no one else is behind this viciuos sensless attack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 12/26/2008

Actually, it's different on so many levels a comparison is absurd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 12/26/2008
- tcuoohjohn I'm a Fan of tcuoohjohn 21 fans permalink

Bruce Pardo was an electrical engineer with Jet Propulsion Laboratories in Pasadena. He worked on full band satellitte radio intercept operations for the US Government. Remember the movie " Falling Down" with Micheal Douglas some years back? This was a reprise. The guy was laid off, his new wife leaves him, his savings run out. Over the edge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 12/26/2008
- mphalen I'm a Fan of mphalen 10 fans permalink
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And we can expect more and more of these kind of incidents. Remember in the 80's when these types of incidents happened at the Post Office and we called it "going postal". Is it a coincience that these killings had started to increase after the war on the middle-class began with Reagan in the eighties?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 12/26/2008

Yes, now maybe people will take a closer look at Ronald Reagan. I have always believed that Reagan will, in the fullness of time, be judged the worst president in US history. Despite GWB jnr's buffoonery, he has nothing on Reagan. Reagan started the train down the slope.....­.nobody could stop the downward slide.....­maybe not even Obama can stop it now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 12/26/2008
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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Do you have any stats that show an increase dating from then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 12/26/2008
- elthelight I'm a Fan of elthelight 6 fans permalink

According to the good book, in the last days wickedness will increase. We are seeing it more every day, all over the world in every level right before our very eyes. Examine yourself and make sure your heart is right towards the one who created you because love casts out ALL fear. Man is incapable of loving his fellowman without personal relationship with the one who created him. The two greatest commandments are: Love the Lord with all your heart, mind, soul and strength and love your neighbor as yourself. Living by those two commands eliminates any form of evil against ones fellowman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 12/26/2008
- drummaman I'm a Fan of drummaman 9 fans permalink

Think, for one second, about how many decades people have been equating humanity to the "end of times".

Even Jack Van Impe won't give it up, after stating for YEARS that the year 2000 would be the end of the world. The date just keeps getting pushed back...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 12/26/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 173 fans permalink
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You have become blinded by your narrow viewpoint which likely means anything
said to you here will fall into nothingness.
My husband is an atheist and is one of most moral and ethical people alive.

A MORAL person is "godlike" in their life choices and actions. They can and do
edify others without ever preaching. Preaching isn't necessary and chances are
some of the people you admire most are not members of any faith.

Our friends volunteer for a large Church Food Pantry which is very busy with
more people in need of help. A recent controversy occurred where one
individual wanted to feed the poor every Saturday and as many as possible during the
4 hours the Pantry is open. Period.
Another Church member was determined to individually sit down and preach
to the hungry people for 20 to 30 minutes before giving them the food. Huh?

"Actions speak louder than words."

Stop preaching and begin doing.

Question:
If you commit a wrong against someone, do you first apologize
to God or the wronged individual?
If you choose God first, then are wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 12/26/2008
- MyLowell I'm a Fan of MyLowell 5 fans permalink
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oh please - men do this to their ex-wives and girlfriends everyday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 12/26/2008
- GravitonX I'm a Fan of GravitonX 61 fans permalink
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I'm surprised there aren't more of these incidents. I've seen some really really nasty divorces, some of which I could easily see something like this happening. In almost every case, it's been the woman agitating the matter by bankrupting and humiliating the guy.

By the way, I'm happily married, never divorced.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 12/26/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 173 fans permalink
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".........­..........­..........­..........­....the woman agitating the matter by bankrupting an humiliating the guy."

Your divorced guy friends or associates sound like REAL WINNERS and
women everywhere are DELIGHTED they are back into the dating pool.

Yeah, right!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 12/26/2008
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 66 fans permalink
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Yes, let's blame the females, the males are never at fault here

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 12/26/2008

No police record, strong active Catholic, no one saw it coming. There was a restraining order on him so obviously it was a bad time for them both. Looks like eight dead now. Shot the poor 8 year old kid who answered the door and after his rabid shooting of many others, soaked the place and turned it into an inferno. Then he shot himself 30 miles away at his brothers house.

Kinda hard to make jokes, try to impress others with funny comments at this point.

The only appropriate reaction to all this is simply tears. It can happen anywhere today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 12/26/2008
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