Bruce Jeffrey Pardo: 'Santa' Shooter Planned To Flee To Canada

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CHRISTINA HOAG | December 26, 2008 10:32 PM EST | AP

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This photograph provided by the Covina Calif. Police Department shows a burned out Dodge Caliber automobile, Thursday, Dec. 25, 2008 in the Sylmar area of Los Angeles that Bruce Pardo drove to his brother's house before committing suicide. Before the suicide, Pardo used remnants of the Santa suit to booby-trap his rental car to explode. (AP Photo/Covina Police Department)

COVINA, Calif. — A man who carried out a Christmas Eve massacre and arson dressed as Santa at the home of his former in-laws apparently intended to flee the U.S., but his plans were dashed after the inferno he created severely burned his arms and melted his red costume onto his body, police said Friday.

Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, a laid-off aerospace worker, apparently shot some of his nine victims execution-style in a plot to destroy his ex-wife's family after a costly divorce that was finalized last week. He had an airline ticket for a Christmas morning flight to Canada and $17,000 in cash on his body, some attached to his legs with plastic wrap and some in a girdle, Covina police Chief Kim Raney said. He did not know the Canadian destination.

Armed with four guns, wearing the Santa suit and carrying a fuel-spraying device wrapped like a present, Pardo showed up at the home at 11:30 p.m. Wednesday as a party of about 25 people was under way.

Raney said Pardo, 45, fired a shot into the face of an 8-year-old girl who answered the door and at first fired indiscriminately, then apparently targeted relatives of his ex-wife as other guests fled.

"There's some information that he stood over them and shot them execution-style," Raney said.

Pardo retreated to the front door and retrieved a device that mixed carbon dioxide or oxygen with high-octane racing fuel, police said. Fleeing guests saw him spraying the fuel inside the house when the vapor was ignited, possibly by a pilot light or a candle, and exploded.

"Mr. Pardo was severely injured during that explosion," Raney said. "He suffered third-degree burns on both arms and it also appears that the Santa Claus suit that he was wearing did melt onto his body."

Pardo was able to drive to his brother's home in the Sylmar area of Los Angeles, broke in and shot himself in the head. His brother discovered the body early Thursday.

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Before the suicide, Pardo used remnants of the Santa suit to booby-trap his rental car to explode, the chief said.

Raney said Pardo wired the suit so when it was lifted it "would pull a trip wire or a switch, ignite a flare inside the car that would then ignite black powder and he had several hundred rounds of handgun ammunition inside the car."

The device went off as a bomb squad worked to disarm it Thursday, but no one was hurt.

Police said Pardo had no criminal record or history of violence, and neighbors and others knew him as a friendly man who walked his dog and was a volunteer usher at his parish church.

Authorities released 911 calls filled with frantic appeals for help: "My mom's house is on fire!" said a caller phoning from a neighbor's house. "He's still shooting at them!"

The fire was so intense that no bodies have been identified because of charring, but police Lt. Tim Doonan said all were Pardo's former relatives. He declined to say whether his ex-wife and her parents were among them, but said they were unaccounted for. The victims were believed to range in age from 17 to 80.

Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center spokeswoman Adelaida De La Cerda said the 8-year-old girl who was shot in the face was released from the hospital Friday. Her mother had been at the hospital and was "extremely traumatized," De La Cerda said.

Her cousin, a 16-year-old girl brought in for observation, had superficial injuries and was released Thursday. The teenager's mother was Bruce Pardo's ex-wife, De La Cerda said. Also injured was a woman who broke her ankle when jumping from a second-story window.

David Salgado, a neighbor, said he saw the 8-year-old victim being escorted to an ambulance by four SWAT officers as fire devoured the house. He identified the owners of the home as Sylvia Pardo's parents, Joseph and Alicia Ortega.

"It was really ugly," Salgado said.

When the fire was extinguished early Thursday, officers found three charred bodies in the living room area. Investigators found five more bodies amid the ashes later in the day. Coroner's Lt. Larry Dietz said a ninth body was found Friday morning.

Police found two handguns at the home of Pardo's brother, and two more in the Covina home. All were empty.

A search of Pardo's own home in Montrose, a suburb northeast of Los Angeles, turned up racing fuel, five empty boxes for high-powered semiautomatic handguns and two high-powered shotguns.

The police chief said Pardo had no military experience, and in a resume he claimed to have a bachelor's and master's degree in electrical engineering.

Court records show Pardo's ex-wife Sylvia Pardo, 43, filed for a dissolution of marriage on March 24, 2008, and they were legally separated after about two years of marriage. The two reached a settlement on Dec. 18.

Bruce Pardo owed her $10,000 as part of the settlement, according to court documents that detailed a bitter split. He also lost a dog he doted on and did not get back a valuable wedding ring.

"No counseling or delay could help restore this marriage," the settlement stated. "There are irreconcilable differences which have led to the complete breakdown of the marriage."

The couple had no children together, but Bruce Pardo had a son from a previous relationship, Raney said.

Bruce Pardo had been employed at ITT Electronic Systems, Radar Systems, in Van Nuys from February 2005 to July 2008, according to court documents. Raney, however, said Pardo was terminated in October, and according to family members disappeared for a month while possibly traveling to the Midwest or East Coast before returning this month.

Pardo's resume also claimed he worked at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory from 1985-1994, the police chief said. The lab could not confirm the claim Friday.

Bruce Pardo wrote in a legal declaration that he was laid off in July and had been denied state unemployment payments in August. He said he was "desperately seeking" work with many companies.

"I was not given a severance package from my last employer at termination and I am not receiving any other income. I am desperately seeking work and have since applied to many companies, resulting in several job interviews," he wrote. "I ask for support just until I gain employment."

Bruce Pardo complained in a court declaration that Sylvia Pardo was living with her parents, not paying rent, and had spent lavishly on a luxury car, gambling trips to Las Vegas, meals at fine restaurants, massages and golf lessons.

Documents from the divorce show Bruce Pardo got their house, which was valued at more than $500,000, but the couple only had $106,000 in equity in it. The mortgage was $2,700 a month, a declaration said.

He complained in a filing that he had monthly expenses of $8,900 and ran a monthly deficit of $2,678.

In June, the court ordered him to pay $1,785 a month in spousal support and put him on a payment plan of $450 a month for $3,570 that was unpaid.

His attorney, Stanley Silver, told The Associated Press his client had trouble making the support payments after he lost his job in July, but spousal support was waived in the settlement last week. Bruce Pardo was trying to pay $10,000 to finalize the divorce proceedings, Silver said, and he never showed any anger or instability.

"All of my dealings with him were always pleasant and cheerful," said Silver, who heard from him last on Tuesday.

Friends and neighbors described Bruce Pardo as a cheerful man who seemed upbeat and doted on a big, brown Akita he owned with his former wife.

Jan Detanna, head usher at the Holy Redeemer Catholic Church in Montrose, said Pardo signed up to usher during the Christmas Eve service and always volunteered as an usher at the 5:30 p.m. Sunday service _ the children's Mass.

"He was very outgoing, he was very friendly. He always greeted you with a smile, he was a pretty big guy and had a firm handshake," said Detanna, who didn't know Pardo was going through a divorce. "It's a shock to everybody that knew him. You just don't know what's going on sometimes."

Pardo's neighbor, George Tataje, 39, said his dog and Pardo's Akita would play together at a park, but he didn't speak to him much. Other neighbors frequently saw him working on his lawn and walking his dog.

At his home in Montrose, Christmas lights decorated the roof and plastic nutcracker soldiers and striped candy canes were attached to a fence that edged a neatly trimmed lawn.

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Associated Press writers Daisy Nguyen, Anthony McCartney, Shaya Tayefe Mohajer, Robert Jablon and Gillian Flaccus in Los Angeles and Solvej Schou in Montrose contributed to this report.

COVINA, Calif. — A man who carried out a Christmas Eve massacre and arson dressed as Santa at the home of his former in-laws apparently intended to flee the U.S., but his plans were dashed after...
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- hamchunk I'm a Fan of hamchunk 20 fans permalink

Though not directly related to this, I would like to wish, to those so inclined, a Merry Christmas, and if not so inclined, health and happiness, for you and those important to you. I would like to ask one thing from those reading this: Please share a smile or kind word with at least one total stranger this holiday season. I have found that this can truly make the difference between life and death for someone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 12/25/2008
- Mort I'm a Fan of Mort 38 fans permalink
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;)

There. I feel better now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 12/26/2008
- qdog112 I'm a Fan of qdog112 71 fans permalink
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Can't believe I have read comments blaming everyone, including women, for this type tragedy. Put the blame where it belongs - on some white guy who feels entitled and suddenly lost control.

These guys are almost always white and almost always lost a job or control of a relationship.

How is this a woman's fault?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 12/25/2008
- dphilip I'm a Fan of dphilip 41 fans permalink

Gee, nothing racists about that huh???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 12/25/2008

nothing actually...and i'm a white male

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 12/26/2008
- geneven I'm a Fan of geneven 6 fans permalink

Maybe there is no way to discuss this rationally, but I would point out that some shooters are not "white guys" by most definitions. In the crazy world of races, asians are not considered white guys. It is true that they are almost always guys (except for suicide bombers, who are quite often female); women tend toward poisoning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 12/26/2008

Deal with the fact that "Profiling" works in the case of Rampage Shooters. They are 99% of the time WHITE MEN. If a policeman looked at me suspiciously in the aftermath of something like this, I would not be at all offended because I am a white man, so I fit the profile.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 12/26/2008

true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 12/26/2008
- pros54 I'm a Fan of pros54 6 fans permalink

Racism comes so easily. I wish reason and tolerance was the easier one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 AM on 12/26/2008

The shooting happened just a couple of streets away from my cousins' house in Covina. I lived in L.A. for 5 years and spent all of my holidays with them -- the whole area is full of nice middle-class homes where people have big family gatherings for Christmas. Sometimes it's hard to find street parking on Christmas Eve with so many get-togethers, but people wave and offer to help as you stagger down the block loaded down with presents and pot-luck dishes. I feel so sorry for the family and hope the survivors make a complete recovery. Why couldn't the shooter have just killed himself? Why this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 12/25/2008
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People are just rotten. That's why.

SOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 AM on 12/26/2008
- 700rpm I'm a Fan of 700rpm 6 fans permalink

The accompanying photo is attributed to the Covina PD, so they apparently had had enough previous contact with this guy to get a mug shot. What's his record? Should he have had access to firearms?

But he gone long ago. Look at that photo: his eyes are dead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 12/25/2008
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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The article says he had no criminal record or record of violence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 12/25/2008

The police probably pulled his DMV photo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 12/25/2008
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Looks like a DL photo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 12/25/2008

It looks like a DMV photo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 12/25/2008
- simplify I'm a Fan of simplify 53 fans permalink
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Say thanks to the rampant abuse of the 2nd amendment. Until we repeal the gun laws in this country, this will happen over, and over and over and over....lets hope it doesn't happen to you........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 12/25/2008
- Yermammy I'm a Fan of Yermammy 137 fans permalink
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Listen, simple, taking guns away from people because a few abuse the privilege, does just amount as much good as making power tools illegal. People have been killing people for probably ten or fifteen minutes now! (major sarcasm). What, there was no murder before guns were invented? I hate to bring to you like this, but you take one option off the table, there will just be another put on it. The new fad in Japan is just climb in a truck and plow into a crowd. Sorry to say, but this is a much deeper problem that can't be fixed by removing one tool from the box. It's not that simple, simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 12/25/2008
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Yeah...this mkaes a lot of sense.

THe truck climbing-people ploughing fad will replace the number of handgun deaths in this country. THe issue is the ease in killing with a handgun and the ready availability of guns to practically anyone...no questions asked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 12/25/2008
- qdog112 I'm a Fan of qdog112 71 fans permalink
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"Sorry to say, but this is a much deeper problem that can't be fixed by removing one tool from the box. It's not that simple, simple."

No, but he get's stopped before he kills multiple times with a hammer.

Gun control is a start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 12/25/2008
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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Agreed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 12/25/2008
- transe I'm a Fan of transe 2 fans permalink

I agree. A gun is an object, and as such, is only as dangerous as the fool holding it. We had guns in the house when I was growing up. We didn't mess with them, we knew what could happen if we did. My dad would have clobbered us. I don't mind guns, nor responsible gun owners. The problem is, we have a lot of angry violent people, who don't think about anything but what they want right then. We have to figure out how to deal with people. And, something tells me that is never gonna happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 12/25/2008
- geneven I'm a Fan of geneven 6 fans permalink

It can be affected by taking away one tool in the book. Not cured, that's true, but one doesn't have to have a cure for all evils to bring about improvement. I seriously doubt that that eight year old kid who killed two adults would have done the same thing with a knife. Too yucky and too difficult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 12/26/2008
- gastoys I'm a Fan of gastoys 6 fans permalink
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Please educate yourself on weapons and the 2nd Amendment. Taking away guns does nothing as only the criminals will have them. Look at Chicago, one of the highest death rates due to guns in the U.S. and they have a ban on guns.

The other problem is the news only reports stories about people who have been killed by guns and never about a homeowner who used his weapon to protect his family.

I am so tired of the same old argument... "guns kill people". More people die falling down the stairs so let's ban those too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 12/25/2008
- stargazer13 I'm a Fan of stargazer13 101 fans permalink
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Simplify Guns don,t kill people people kill people your mind must be able to grasp that concept some people blame guns I my self blame people and there lack of self control

I my self have never seen a gun move on it,s own let a lone fire it self

there is always a human holding the back of it while squeezing the trigger

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 12/26/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 245 fans permalink
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Your mind needs to grasp the concept that this man could have killed maybe one person with a knife, but he killed at least 8 with a gun with three others still missing. People kill more people using guns. That's a fact you can't get around.

If a rampaging college student runs into a classroom with a knife, let's see... how many could he kill with that knife as opposed to a gun?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 AM on 12/26/2008
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Covina is such a wonderful town. My heart goes out to the families of all involved in this tragedy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 12/25/2008

Yeah. Too bad it didn't happen in a town that wasn't so wonderful.

I know the feeling of rage after an unjust settlement. Millions do. Luckily, the vast majority of us just pick up the (few) pieces and move on. Once burned was enough for me!

Signed,

Happily Single

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 12/25/2008

lol well said

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 12/26/2008

The regret in this? The guy didn't kill himself first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 12/25/2008
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No. THe regeret it's actually so easy to have access to all sorts of guns ..no questions asked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 12/25/2008
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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What do you mean no questions? You have to pass an instant background check every time you buy a gun from a dealer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 12/25/2008
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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...all sorts of guns. Freedom of Choice. isn't that a good thing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 12/25/2008

You see it over and over again. Some guy (and it's almost always a guy) reaches the end of his rope and decides to kill himself. Fine. So he gets a gun and kills his wife/girlfriend, maybe the kids and finally himself. Why the heck doesn't he just start with himself, just to be sure that the gun really works, and save everyone else the trouble? It is unnerving to have a relative commit suicide, but it's a lot less trouble than going off into oblivion with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 12/25/2008
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It's probably spite. Men.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 12/25/2008

true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 12/26/2008

Can any Male please clue me in on this typically male psychology?
So you're having marital problems. Then clearly she's Not That Into You, so Move On! You're 45, you can date any number of decent 30-something women. Seems a lot of married guys that age are YEARNING to start over.
Apparently certain men see it as FATALLY DISRESPECTFUL if a woman moves on, no matter if they really wanted her to begin with. Lucky that women don't have this quirk, or a LOT fewer guys would see the age of 30.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 12/25/2008
- fumes I'm a Fan of fumes 91 fans permalink
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great post mom, the answer is i don't know and i have two male friends ( i'm a male) that have had this strange reaction to rejection. i should say i HAD two male friends... one dumped me when i sided with the female involved. i'd love to know the answer!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 12/25/2008
- jimdog1954 I'm a Fan of jimdog1954 8 fans permalink
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It's primal, instinctive male sexual behavior left over from the pre-Neanderthal days. Men have an innate fear of losing control over their women, of raising another man's child, of surrendering the gene pool to another man's DNA. It's barbaric, but 100% natural - proof of Darwin's theory. Women have no such innate fear. This is why 4,000 American women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends every year. These men are essentially unevolved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 12/25/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 95 fans permalink

I think you've got it - except that I'd tweak that very last bit. I'd say that they've got an evolutionarily-based trait that no longer serves the niche the current population lives in.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 12/25/2008

Bingo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 12/26/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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Women assault, berate, and stalk their exes new GFs and wives too. Many even abuse the children their current partners had with previous women. Just remember that while you attempt to regale in some misplaced sense of gender superiority that completely ignores the fact that women are still "emotional creatures" (even when it doesn't work in their favor) and who have no more self-control than the men they criticize to make themselves look good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 12/25/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 287 fans permalink

Statistics speak otherwise. I agree women do their share of heinous things, but they are outnumbered by high numbers of the things men do. Men are far more likely to be violent and lethal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 12/25/2008
- lovered I'm a Fan of lovered 8 fans permalink

Umm what about that andrea lady who drowned her children in the tub or casey anthony. Women are just as crazy. In fact, I think women generally have more problems than men, and I'm a woman. Look how Hillary and Sarak were treated this year. Thats why we will never have a female president. Because women hate women

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 12/25/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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Both Hillary and Sarah were flawed people in their own ways. Their gender was merely tertiary to the character and skill they displayed. You want a great female leader? Give us someone like Captain Janeway from "Star Trek: Voyager" or TX Governor Ann Richards who doesn't have to rely in reminding us of gender identity just to make a point or to gain leverage as a way to compensate for lackluster performances. When women get off their gender and focus on their performance, so will other people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 12/25/2008
- Cuyahoga I'm a Fan of Cuyahoga 12 fans permalink

*lovered* - you may be a woman who hates woman but as a 57 year old female, I've never known women who automatically hate women. Geez who even comes UP with these crazy thoughts?

Males - as a gender - are dangerous to society. Fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 12/25/2008
- JBS I'm a Fan of JBS 24 fans permalink
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No, it's not typical. It's aberrant behavior. That's why it's news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 12/25/2008
- SlithyTove I'm a Fan of SlithyTove 11 fans permalink

No need to be flip. S'mom is pointing out a statistically significant difference in observed behavior between the sexes. It is certainly aberrant, but there is no question that men -- overwhelmingly -- tend to be the perps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 12/25/2008
- tcuoohjohn I'm a Fan of tcuoohjohn 21 fans permalink

We;re gonna see alot more "middle age crazies" as the economy declines. When you're 25 and the economy sours on you it is unnerving. At 35 it is frightening . At 45 it is terrifying. At 55 it is shattering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 12/25/2008
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At 65, it's the Homeless Shelter....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 12/25/2008
- tulsey I'm a Fan of tulsey 2 fans permalink

Exactly! Pissed off recently fired, foreclosed, reposesed time bombs. Trying to prove they still can. That is a song lyric.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 12/25/2008

And what has been the excuse of/for men before the economy tanked? Men have been killing women in droves forever, everywhere!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 12/25/2008
- Raster I'm a Fan of Raster 24 fans permalink

Mega dittos on your post. It's right on target, pun avoidable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 12/25/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 245 fans permalink
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So.... we know that this man did this because of the economy? Or are we putting motivations in his head?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 12/25/2008
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I knew a girl at college whose father shot her mother then himself on Christmas Eve. Marital problems, I remember, and I remember he was a cop.

At 21, she was raising her brother and in the reserves for the money. She was pretty and I wanted to date her, but she didn't have any inclination because of all that responsibility.

That's the most terrible thing of all, that she had to grow up so fast, no time for a life, all swept away in one selfish moment of violence. I don't believe in hell, but people like Pardo are a strong argument for opening one right now.

SOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 12/25/2008
- Mort I'm a Fan of Mort 38 fans permalink
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It's one thing to get depressed and take your own life. That's a form of mental illness that deserves our attention and sympathy. I'm sure God understands them and will take that into consideration.

But to go postal like this is a whole different matter. It's vile. He must have done it in his mind beforehand. That kind of meanness is developed and nurtured. The stress may have been a trigger, but the intent was already there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 12/25/2008

This is tragic, and my heart and prayers go to the families and friends of the stricken ones. This event--like many other violent crimes--is a reminder to all of us of the following. Mental and emotional illnesses remain very serious threats to the well-being of our community. When we as a society neglect those who are in pain, the cost is borne by the entire community. We are not islands unto ourselves; we live or die as a community. My prayers to all who are grieving during this season.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 12/25/2008

I don't it is mental illness. I's pure evil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 12/25/2008

That's silly. Of course it's mental breakdown. Unless you're religious or something. Then you can blame the devil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 12/25/2008
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Evil IS a kind of mental disorder (there is no "mental illness" -- we're getting away from the medical model).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 12/25/2008
- topkatnc I'm a Fan of topkatnc 32 fans permalink
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Why do people like Pardo feel that they must take innocent people with him when they have decided to take their own life ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 12/25/2008
- helenwheels I'm a Fan of helenwheels 587 fans permalink
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Outrage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 12/25/2008
- Cuyahoga I'm a Fan of Cuyahoga 12 fans permalink

It's not a new scenario. It's called "If I can't have you - no one else can have you." Unfortunately it's too common and always has been.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 12/25/2008

He got angry, and he wanted revenge, and he hates humanity. But he was the nicest guy, always had a great big smile...pffffffft. whatever. Guess you never saw him abusing his wife (most likely), or what went on behind closed doors. Look, here in Chicago, we have lots of mentally ill people. The live under the bridges and what not, some beg for money, others are lawyers and politicians with personality disorders (Blago). Most of them don't go kill people. This man was just mean and had no regard for human life. BTW, taking away guys won't help-unless you destroy every single one IN THE WORLD! Someone will always be willing to sell you something. Nor would arming every person at the party. Look at the old WWII movies. The soldiers still got killed in sneak attacks and they all carried weapons. Having armed security guards, and a half dozen attack dogs might have slowed him down-but I'm sure he'd just find a way to remotely bomb the house mafia style.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 12/25/2008
- butonelife I'm a Fan of butonelife 2 fans permalink

Things like this wouldn't happen if they would let us all lock and load and go about our day like SWAT teams clearing a building. "Hold up everyone! That was just a backfire."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 12/25/2008
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