Child maid trafficking spreads from Africa to US

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RUKMINI CALLIMACHI | 12/28/08 08:23 PM | AP

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IRVINE, Calif. — Late at night, the neighbors saw a little girl at the kitchen sink of the house next door. They watched through their window as the child rinsed plates under the open faucet. She wasn't much taller than the counter and the soapy water swallowed her slender arms.

To put the dishes away, she climbed on a chair.

But she was not the daughter of the couple next door doing chores. She was their maid.

Shyima was 10 when a wealthy Egyptian couple brought her from a poor village in northern Egypt to work in their California home. She awoke before dawn and often worked past midnight to iron their clothes, mop the marble floors and dust the family's crystal. She earned $45 a month working up to 20 hours a day. She had no breaks during the day and no days off.

The trafficking of children for domestic labor in the U.S. is an extension of an illegal but common practice in Africa. Families in remote villages send their daughters to work in cities for extra money and the opportunity to escape a dead-end life. Some girls work for free on the understanding that they will at least be better fed in the home of their employer.

The custom has led to the spread of trafficking, as well-to-do Africans accustomed to employing children immigrate to the U.S. Around one-third of the estimated 10,000 forced laborers in the United States are servants trapped behind the curtains of suburban homes, according to a study by the National Human Rights Center at the University of California at Berkeley and Free the Slaves, a nonprofit group. No one can say how many are children, especially since their work can so easily be masked as chores.

Once behind the walls of gated communities like this one, these children never go to school. Unbeknownst to their neighbors, they live as modern-day slaves, just like Shyima, whose story is pieced together through court records, police transcripts and interviews.

"I'd look down and see her at 10, 11 _ even 12 _ at night," said Shyima's neighbor at the time, Tina Font. "She'd be doing the dishes. We didn't put two and two together."

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Shyima cried when she found out she was going to America in 2000. Her father, a bricklayer, had fallen ill a few years earlier, so her mother found a maid recruiter, signed a contract effectively leasing her daughter to the couple for 10 years and told Shyima to be strong.

For a year, Shyima, 9, worked in the Cairo apartment owned by Amal Motelib and Nasser Ibrahim. Every month, Shyima's mother came to pick up her salary.

Tens of thousands of children in Africa, some as young as 3, are recruited every year to work as domestic servants. They are on call 24 hours a day and are often beaten if they make a mistake. Children are in demand because they earn less than adults and are less likely to complain. In just one city _ Casablanca _ a 2001 survey by the Moroccan government found more than 15,000 girls under 15 working as maids.

The U.S. State Department found that over the past year, children have been trafficked to work as servants in at least 33 of Africa's 53 countries. Children from at least 10 African countries were sent as maids to the U.S. and Europe. But the problem is so well hidden that authorities _ including the U.N., Interpol and the State Department _ have no idea how many child maids now work in the West.

"In most homes, these girls are not allowed to use so much as the same spoon as the rest of the family," said Hany Helal, the Cairo-based director of the Egyptian Organization for Child Rights.

By the time the Ibrahims decided to leave, Shyima's family had taken several loans from them for medical bills. The Ibrahims said they could only be repaid by sending Shyima to work for them in the U.S. A friend posed as her father, and the U.S. embassy in Cairo issued her a six-month tourist visa.

She arrived at Los Angeles International Airport on Aug. 3, 2000, according to court documents. The family brought her back to their spacious five-bedroom, two-story home, decorated in the style of a Tuscan villa with a fountain of two angels spouting water through a conch. She was told to sleep in the garage.

It had no windows and was neither heated nor air-conditioned. Soon after she arrived, the garage's only light bulb went out. The Ibrahims didn't replace it. From then on, Shyima lived in the dark.

She was told to call them Madame Amal and Hajj Nasser, terms of respect. They called her "shaghala," or servant. Their five children called her "stupid."

While the family slept, she ironed the school outfits of the Ibrahims' 5-year-old twin sons. She woke them, combed their hair, dressed them and made them breakfast. Then she ironed clothes and fixed breakfast for the three girls, including Heba, who at 10 was the same age as the family's servant.

Neither Ibrahim nor his wife worked, and they slept late. When they awoke, they yelled for her to make tea.

While they ate breakfast watching TV, she cleaned the palatial house. She vacuumed each bedroom, made the beds, dusted the shelves, wiped the windows, washed the dishes and did the laundry.

Her employers were not satisfied, she said. "Nothing was ever clean enough for her. She would come in and say, 'This is dirty,' or 'You didn't do this right,' or 'You ruined the food,'" said Shyima.

She started wetting her bed. Her sheets stank. So did her oversized T-shirt and the other hand-me-downs she wore.

While doing the family's laundry, she slipped her own clothes into the load. Madame slapped her. "She told me my clothes were dirtier than theirs. That I wasn't allowed to clean mine there," she said.

She washed her clothes in a bucket in the garage. She hung them to dry outside, next to the trash cans.

When the couple went out, she waited until she heard the car pull away and then she sat down. She sat with her back straight because she was afraid her clothes would dirty the upholstery.

It never occurred to her to run away.

"I thought this was normal," she said.

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If you could fly the garage where Shyima slept 7,000 miles to the sandy alleyway where her Egyptian family now lives, it would pass for the best home in the neighborhood.

The garage's walls are made of concrete instead of hand-patted bricks. Its roof doesn't leak. Its door shuts all the way. Shyima's mother and her 10 brothers and sisters live in a two-bedroom house with uneven walls and a flaking ceiling. None of them have ever had a bed to themselves, much less a whole room. At night, bodies cover the sagging couches.

Shown a snapshot of the windowless garage, Shyima's mother in the coastal town of Agami made a clucking sound of approval.

"It's much cleaner than where many people here sleep," said Helal, the child rights advocate. He explains that Shyima's treatment in the Ibrahim home is considered normal _ even good _ by Egyptian standards.

Even though many child maids are physically abused, child labor is rarely prosecuted because the work isn't considered strenuous. Many employers even see themselves as benefactors.

"There is a sense that children should work to help their family, but also that they are being given an opportunity," said Mark Lagon, the director of the U.S. State Department's Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons.

That's especially the case for well-off families who transport their child servants to Western countries.

In 2006, a U.S. district court in Michigan sentenced a Cameroonian man to 17 years in prison for bringing a 14-year-old girl from his country to work as his unpaid maid. That same year, a Moroccan couple was sentenced to home confinement for forcing their 12-year-old Moroccan niece to work grueling hours caring for their baby.

In Germantown, Md., a Nigerian couple used their daughter's passport to bring in a 14-year-old Nigerian girl as their maid. She worked for them for five years before escaping in 2001. In Germany, France, the Netherlands and England, African immigrants have been arrested for forcing children from their home countries to work as their servants.

In several of these cases, the employers argued that they took the children with the parents' permission. The Cameroonian girl's mother flew to Detroit to testify in court against her daughter, saying the girl was ungrateful for the good life her employers had provided her.

Shyima's mother, Salwa Mahmoud, said her father believed she would have better opportunities in America.

"I didn't want her to travel but our family's condition dictated that she had to go," explained Mahmoud, a squat, round-faced woman with calloused hands and feet. She is missing two front teeth because she couldn't afford a dentist.

"If she had stayed here in Egypt, she would have been ordinary," said Awatef, Shyima's older sister. "Just like us."

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On April 3, 2002, an anonymous caller phoned the California Department of Social Services to report that a young girl was living inside the garage of 28 Pacific Grove.

A few days later, Nasser Ibrahim opened the door to a detective from the Irvine Police Department. Asked if any children lived there beside his own, he first said no, then yes _ "a distant relative." He said he had "not yet" enrolled her in school. She did "chores _ just like the other kids," according to the police transcript.

Shyima was upstairs cleaning when Ibrahim came to get her. "He told me that I was not allowed to say anything," said Shyima. "That if I said anything I would never see my parents again."

When police searched the house, they turned up several home videos showing Shyima at work. They seized the contract signed by Shyima's illiterate parents.

Asked by police if anyone other than his immediate family lived in the house, Eid, one of the twins, said: "Hummm ... Yeah ... Her name is Shyima," according to the transcript. "She uh ... She works _ she works for us at the house, like, she cleans up the dishes and stuff like that."

Twelve-year-old Heba got flustered: "Yeah. She's uh _ my _ uh _ How do I say this? Uh ... My dad's ... Oh, wait, like ... She's like my cousin, but _ She's my dad's daughter's friend. Oops! The other way. Okay, I'm confused."

Heba eventually admitted that Shyima had lived with the family for three years in Egypt and in California.

The police put Shyima in a squad car. They noted her hands were red and caked with dead, hard-looking skin.

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For months Shyima lied to investigators, saying what the Ibrahims had told her to say.

She went without sleep for days at a stretch. She was put on four different types of medication. She moved from foster home to foster home. Her mood swings alarmed her guardians. In school for the first time, she struggled to learn to read.

Investigators arranged for her to speak to her parents. She told them she felt like a "nobody" working for the Ibrahims and wanted to come home. Her father yelled at her.

"They kept telling me that they're good people," Shyima recounted in a recent interview. "That it's my fault. That because of what I did my mom was going to have a heart attack."

Three years ago, she broke off contact with her family. Since then she has refused to speak Arabic. She can no longer communicate in her mother tongue.

During the 2006 trial, the Ibrahims described Shyima as part of their family. They included proof of a trip she took with the family to Disneyland. Shyima's lawyer pointed out that the 10-year-old wasn't allowed on the rides _ she was there to carry the bags.

The couple's lawyers collected photographs of the home where Shyima grew up, including close-ups of the feces-stained squat toilet and of Shyima's sisters washing clothes in a bucket.

In her final plea, Madame Amal told the judge it would be unfair to separate her from her children. Enraged, Shyima, then 17, told the court she hadn't seen her family in years.

"Where was their loving when it came to me? Wasn't I a human being too? I felt like I was nothing when I was with them," she sobbed.

The couple pleaded guilty to all charges, including forced labor and slavery. They were ordered to pay $76,000, the amount Shyima would have earned at the minimum wage. The sentence: Three years in federal prison for Ibrahim, 22 months for his wife, and then deportation for both. Their lawyers declined to comment for this story.

"I don't think that there is any other term you could use than modern-day slavery," said Bob Schoch, the special agent in charge for Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Los Angeles, in describing Shyima's situation.

Shyima was adopted last year by Chuck and Jenny Hall of Beaumont, Calif. The family lives near Disneyland, where they have taken her a half-dozen times. She graduated from high school this summer after retaking her exit exam and hopes to become a police officer.

Shyima, now 19, has a list of assigned chores. She wears purple eyeshadow, has a boyfriend and frequently updates her profile on MySpace. Her hands are neatly manicured.

But in her closet, she keeps a box of pictures of her parents and her brothers and sisters. "I don't look at them because it makes me cry," she said. "How could they? They're my parents."

When her father died last year, her family had no way of reaching her.

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EPILOGUE: On a recent afternoon in Cairo, Madame Amal walked into the lobby of her apartment complex wearing designer sunglasses and a chic scarf.

After nearly two years in a U.S. prison cell, she's living once more in the spacious apartment where Shyima first worked as her maid. The apartment is adorned in the style of a Louis XIV palace, with ornately carved settees, gold-leaf vases and life-sized portraits of her and her husband.

She did not agree to be interviewed for this story.

Before the door closed behind her, a little girl slipped in carrying grocery bags. She wore a shabby T-shirt. Her small feet slapped the floor in loose flip-flops. Her eyes were trained on the ground.

She looked to be around 9 years old.

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EDITOR'S NOTE _ This story is based on interviews in Los Angeles, Irvine and Beaumont, Calif., and in Cairo and Agami, Egypt, in September and October. In addition to interviews with Shyima, her mother and nine of her brothers and sisters, the AP also interviewed her neighbors in Irvine, law enforcement officials and the lawyer who prosecuted her case. Quotes and scenes were observed by the reporter or described by Shyima and confirmed in police transcripts and court records.

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- MacManLB I'm a Fan of MacManLB 58 fans permalink
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They enslaved a person and they got less time than a person caught smoking crack. Notice that the article did not mention the sexual abuse that is a part of the slavery. The enslavers know that the US is a slave country and they will only get a slap on the wrist. Is there no justice in this land?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 12/29/2008
- atlantajoe I'm a Fan of atlantajoe 8 fans permalink

What is a slave country and why do you equate slavery with the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 12/29/2008
- Dystopic I'm a Fan of Dystopic 20 fans permalink
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you are a slave to the system. You work, you pay your taxes, you are told that you are a free man in a free country. Try to get off that train, and you will see how much of a slave you are

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 12/29/2008
- solid I'm a Fan of solid 24 fans permalink

It was a popular pastime here a hundred odd years ago. Even when slavery was abolished it continued on for quite some time as "indentured servitude".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 12/29/2008
- dctackett I'm a Fan of dctackett 9 fans permalink

Actually, the US is not a "slave country"..­. slavery is, in case you didn't even understand the article, illegal in the US.

I'm not sure about the crack thing, but the 3 years may have to do with the fact that they are being deported..­. and by the way, it's probably possesing the crack, not smoking it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 12/29/2008
- Horus I'm a Fan of Horus 20 fans permalink
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Maybe he meant its a slave country because slavery is so hella popular here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 12/29/2008

People like Shyima's masters should be not just put in prison, but they should also be required to do forced labor, especially whatever task they find more "degrading", be it cleaning toilets, laundry, etc.

The bastards this story is about got off cheap. Only pay back in lost wages. What about the lost opportunities because of delayed education? What about all the emotional and physical trauma they inflicted on this poor girl?

Western, democratic societies where human rights are important should not just deny residence to people like the unsavory characters of this story. A further penalty should be declaring them unfit parents and removing their offspring from them. Keep the disease from spreading and from poisioning the minds of their own kids.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 12/29/2008
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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This cannot be allowed, are we as Americans not past slavery yet? Freedom in the US does not mean freedom to turn this country into a third world country! these immigrant families should not be allowed citizenship unless they are willing to leave behind their third world ways. learn our language and abide by our laws......­.they come here to live a better life yet keep living their old ways of life. I say deport these rich families back to where ever they come from!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 12/29/2008
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 90 fans permalink
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Humanity is doomed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 AM on 12/29/2008
- JoeBlough I'm a Fan of JoeBlough 60 fans permalink
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That is the nature of humanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 12/29/2008
- ailbhe I'm a Fan of ailbhe 13 fans permalink

This is a huge problem amongst African families in Europe which is ignored because the governments do not want to be perceived as 'racist' by targeting problems within certain minority groups.

Thousands of child brides are also imported every year by Asians and Arabs, yet again nobody will do anything about it for fear of being 'islamophobic'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 AM on 12/29/2008
- wembakoy I'm a Fan of wembakoy 7 fans permalink

Please let make the world to be a peaceful place again.

Please share: http://okonda.com/please_save_my_people.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 AM on 12/29/2008
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I hope these bastards are being deported. The kids they've exploited should be given full protection and a new life here. How could you not cherish Shyima after looking at that face?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 12/29/2008
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 132 fans permalink
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well lets see, if the top 1% have all the wealth, and they are the ones who do this, then I think its just another reason to rethink how many here worship the rich as being perfect and wonderful , intelligent and better than the rest of us. We dont buy young girls from other countries to be slaves and worse. but they do, so it must be ok??? Ivy Greed strikes again. When can we stop them? HOw can we stop them? They think they are above it all and can do whatever they want. And we let them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 12/29/2008
- tiktokklok I'm a Fan of tiktokklok 2 fans permalink

We stop them by confiscating all their assets and giving it all to their victims when they're caught committing such crimes. Then we put them to work repairing the nation's highways on prison chain gangs for the rest of their lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 AM on 12/29/2008
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I am so ashamed for America . . . that we let this exist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 12/29/2008

Thank the multiculturalism that a lot of people on the left love so much.

If that wealthy Egyptian couple lived in a country that made them assimilate into the American culture, the chances of them having a little servant slave girl would be a lot less. The article states that this practice is an African custom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 12/29/2008
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Multiculturalism has nothing to do with this. These perps were arrested and punished according to the Rule of Law, and if you actually bothered to read the comments on this story, you'd acknowledge that "progressives" and "liberals" abhor the practice of slavery, and many have called for stiffer penalties than the ones imposed upon the couple who kept this young lady as a slave.

This is a human practice - a very bad one. Period.

Our nation does not tolerate it, and those that perpetrate it do so at the risk of being prosecuted to the fullest extent of our laws.

I for one just wish that we increase the prison time to be identical to the time of enslavement of their victims in total.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 12/30/2008
- atlantajoe I'm a Fan of atlantajoe 8 fans permalink

We do not let it exist. Everytime the authorities find out about a case such as this they pursue it. You should be ashamed of the countries that condone it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 12/29/2008
- haramagoti I'm a Fan of haramagoti 12 fans permalink
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We need an immediate epilogue to the epilogue

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 12/29/2008
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Check no futher then Mr. Limbaugh's house !

Rush, like his father, "loves" children !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 12/29/2008
- SimonNZ I'm a Fan of SimonNZ 9 fans permalink

Yep. That's the reason he took Viagra to the Dominican Republic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 12/29/2008

Working in an office for 14 hours a day and making less than 1/100th of what my boss makes should be considered slavery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 12/29/2008

Nop, that is capitalism. There is a fine line though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 12/29/2008
- tiktokklok I'm a Fan of tiktokklok 2 fans permalink

Capitalism is evil--and obsolete. Capitalists are parasites--they feed on the blood and labor of the workers. The workers are the ONLY members of society who create wealth--and EVERY truly significant advancement was made by people who were not motivated by money. If all the members of the 2% upperclass and all the CEO's asnd nother corporate execs were to suddenly drop dead tonight, things would run much better than they are now once the workers finished laughing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 12/29/2008

work harder and get the education needed to become the "boss" or start a business and become your own boss

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 AM on 12/29/2008
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He typed from his Mom's basement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 12/29/2008
- JoeBlough I'm a Fan of JoeBlough 60 fans permalink
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You have the ability to walk away if you want to. They don't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 12/29/2008

You have neighbors complaining about people not using pooper scoopers but turning the other way when they see these children being abused in their midst. C'mon you see this child in the house of your neighbor, yet you do not see this child going to school or going to soccer, ballet or any of the other things you see kids doing all the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 12/28/2008
- Erdgeist I'm a Fan of Erdgeist 82 fans permalink
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Golly, I thought Bush and the Republicans got rid of child labor laws and brought back indentured servitude. Isn't child abuse, wage slavery, and union busting an American tradition?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 12/28/2008
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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From Ben Skinner, author of A Crime So Monstrous: Face-to-Face With Modern-Day Slavery

"...And it is a living history of quiet heroism. John Miller, a former Republican congressman appointed to be America's antislavery czar, zealously cajoled foreign governments�friends and foes alike�to bear their responsibility and free their slaves. At the same time, he battled State Department elites in an attempt to convince them that abolition mattered. Thanks to his efforts, the Bush Administration can boast of the most aggressive antislavery record since Lincoln."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 12/28/2008
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An in-depth interview with Ben Skinner:

http://www.motherjones.com/arts/qa/2008/03/apex-of-slavery.html

END PART I

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 12/29/2008
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PART II

From the interview, the author on John Miller and the Bush Administration:

" In order to keep his job, he knew that he was going to have to keep this constituency of evangelicals happy. For the first couple years he did their bidding. While he remained close to that constituency, he started meeting people enslaved in forms other than commercial sex.

He went to India and, like me, was overwhelmed with the scale of bondage there, came back, and pressed for India to be held accountable by being demoted to the lowest tier of the rankings in the State Department's report on how countries are dealing with slavery. He was rebuffed in 2006 by the deputy secretary, Bob Zoellick, who is now the head of the World Bank, and who clearly doesn't give a damn about slaves, as far as I can tell. So Miller went directly to Condoleezza Rice and pled the case of India's slaves to her and she, who herself is the descendant of slaves, turned her back and basically acted like Pontius Pilot. That was the point when he decided that was it for him. He resigned several months later."

END PART II

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 12/29/2008
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PART III

"Miller became disillusioned with the fact that the Bush administration talked such beautiful, soaring rhetoric and never acted. He said to me that, from Colin Powell to Condoleezza Rice, the rhetoric on modern-day slavery got better and the action got worse. Rice would give magnificent speeches, raising her hands to the firmament and talking about how America will fight modern-day slavery, and would then do nothing. And you can say, "Fine, we are in a time of war, and there are other concerns," but I'm allowed to point out the hypocrisy of her making these claims of leading an abolitionist America into a new century and then not doing anything about it."

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 12/29/2008

Now that's something I can indeed celebrate the Bush administration for. This story is horrible and most important it is being done in this country. The story illustrates American may not be able to change the traditions/customs in other countries but you WILL NOT bring your filth to this country and PRETEND it's just culture

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 12/29/2008
- atlantajoe I'm a Fan of atlantajoe 8 fans permalink

Isnt it odd how this never ever ever ever happened before Bush was in office ? It will come to an end now that Bush is gone. In fact, we won't need police because Bush is gone and everyone is happy now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 12/29/2008
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There is a hymn which comes to mind upon reading this story. "Whatsoever you do to the least of my people that you do unto me" (i.e., Christ, the Universal Creator).

Similarly, it has also been said that we might judge the civility of a society by the way that it's poorest citizens are treated. If this is the case, our country is becoming increasingly uncivil by demonstrating any tollerance for this sort of child slavery. Madame Amal and her husband should have been deported indefinitely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 12/28/2008

Unfortunately, madame amal and her husband are moslems and your biblical quotation is not part of their religious beliefs. Secondly, America does not tolerate this type of behavior. This is just arab culture; enslaving someone because you are richer or more powerful is an accepted part of life in arab culture. A whole lot of African Americans don't know that it was the Arabs who first sold black Africans to the european. They started the ball rolling on trans-atlantic slavery. They had been enslaving black africans for centuries before the european went to africa....­..and they are STILL doing it. Allowing Arab immigration into America will simply contribute to the increase of these types of uncivilized and degrading behavior in our midst. Curb or put a Stop to Arab immigration and the occurence of these incidents will diminished.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 AM on 12/29/2008
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"Curb or put a Stop to Arab immigration and the occurence of these incidents will diminished­."

I've seen red herring arguments before, citizen, but this is a red whale. You stop these incidents in America by enforcing our rule of law as enshrined in our Constitution, our federal, state, and local laws none of which condone or defend this sort of despicable activity.

Your whole anti-immig­rant/anti-­arab argument is utter xenophobic nonsense. Stopping "arab immigration" will not stop this activity, as it will simply go on in countries that do tolerate it, just as shown at the article's end.

And it is not just Islam that excuses slavery in some of the passages of the Quran; the Bible also has justifications for slavery in the Old Testament, and these had been used historically by Americans to justify the enslavement of Africans.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 12/29/2008
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