Hamas Calls For Martyrdom After 280 Palestinians Die (VIDEO)
Israel has continued airstrikes on Gaza for the second day. The death toll has risen to 280, reports Al Jazeera. It also reports that Hamas has made a call to arms.
Israel has continued airstrikes on Gaza for the second day. The death toll has risen to 280, reports Al Jazeera. It also reports that Hamas has made a call to arms.
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Karin Kloosterman: Israel's President Shimon Peres, On the Attacks in Gaza
Peres: "It is the first time in the history of Israel that we, the Israelis, cannot understand the motives or the purposes of the ones who are shooting at us. It is the most unreasonable war, done by the most unreasonable warriors."
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Mohsin Mohi-Ud Din: Indifference to the Dead and Dying
Collectively punishing the mothers and children of Gaza does not just violate international law, it does not just kill the people of Gaza, it kills any chance of a future peace.
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Karin Kloosterman: IDF Photos of Hamas Targets in Gaza Before Strike |
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Ilana Teitelbaum: In the Shadow of Airstrikes in Jerusalem
With the coming war and intifada on my mind, I realize that thousands of rockets have been fired into Israel in recent years, yet because we in Jerusalem don't get hit by them, it has always seemed removed.
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Shadi Hamid: What Was Hamas Thinking? Understanding the Events in Gaza
So what are Hamas's strategic imperatives? Hamas still behaves like a traditional guerrilla or terrorist group -- such groups are interested in relative, not absolute, victory.
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Jesse Kornbluth: Dead Children In School Uniforms In Gaza City: A Nagging Thought About 'Collateral Damage'
I wish I could parse the politics and figure out where I stand on this shiny new conflict, but I'm stuck on its opening act.
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Nathan Gonzalez: The Lesson Israel Should Have Never Learned
Israel, torn in anger and exaggerated feelings of vulnerability, is unlikely to stop bombing until it realizes that is has once again shot itself in the foot.
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Av Sinensky: I've Seen This One Before
The only thing more predictable than a Jets football season is the ongoing saga that is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
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Karin Kloosterman: The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Is An Ancient Story
I've been living in Israel now for almost a decade, and have survived biological warfare threats from Saddam, Intifada #2, terror attacks targeting Israeli civilians, and the war with Lebanon. But today, I feel pissed off.
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Ben Cohen: Obama's Silence on Gaza is Deafening
Obama has massive political capital, and could have injected himself into the crisis before it happened and could have lent his credibility to a situation that has spiraled dangerously out of control.
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Sean Gilfillan: Two Paths Ahead for the Palestinians: Nonviolence vs. Violence
There are only two paths ahead, one for Hamas and one for the Israelis, that each must take in order to solve this conflict once and for all.
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Joseph A. Palermo: More Birth Pangs in the Middle East?
Israel finds itself in a similar position the United States found itself in Vietnam: The more it flexes its military muscle the politically weaker it becomes vis-à-vis a determined, largely civilian enemy.
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Joshua Gleis: Lessons Learned from the 2006 War Being Implemented in Gaza
While many have spoken about the lessons Hamas has learned from Hezbollah over the years, it appears the Israeli political and military establishment has learned one or two of its own.
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Jamal Dajani: Day Four: Gaza War Postings
I've been zigzagging my way between Israel and the West Bank to avoid IDF checkpoints. When we enter the Palestinian territories where emotions ran high, my Palestinian driver almost has a fit when he finds out that my cameraman is an Israeli.
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Daoud Kuttab: Has Israel Revived Hamas?
It is abundantly clear that Hamas movement has been brought back from near political defeat while moderate Arab leaders have been forced to back away from their support for any reconciliation with Israel.
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Patricia DeGennaro: Israel and Gaza: Stop the Violence Now!
Israelis and Palestinians have been trying to prove to each other that they can survive never ending violence, an eternal occupation, and a perpetual cycle of denial that the two cannot exist together.
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Heather Robinson: Iraqi Parliamentarian to His People: "It's Not Between Palestinians and Israelis, it's Between Terrorists and Moderates"
I spoke over the phone with Iraqi Parliamentarian Mithal al-Alusi, head of the Iraqi Nation Party in Baghdad -- he says, interestingly, a significant number of Iraqis are not reflexively anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian.
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Lorelei Kelly: Israel, Stop! Just. Stop.
Killing lots of people on the other side is not only ineffective, it is counterproductive. It hurts your cause. It gets more of your own people killed in the long run. Israel, you are so better than this.
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Gotham Chopra: Arab-Israeli Rage
More than anything, it seems that the Arab world needs to produce it's version of Martin Luther King or Mahatma Gandhi that can smartly and gracefully lead their people to a dignified future.
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Richard Silverstein: Gaza Death Toll: 375 Palestinian, 4 Israeli
Israeli politicians continue to labor under delusions that this military operation can "clean up" their "problem" once and for all.
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Cenk Uygur: America is Primarily at Fault for the Conflict in Gaza
The Bush administration demanded -- against the advice of nearly every expert in the field and the Israeli government -- that the Palestinians hold elections. They did. Hamas won.
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Greg Mitchell: Famed Israeli Journalist Decries Civilian Casualties in Gaza -- But Who is Amira Hass?
Hass is not only an Israeli but both of her parents are Holocaust survivors. She has become the most prominent Israeli journalist to make it her mission to report as often as possible from Gaza and the West Bank.
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Mitchell Bard: Hamas Is Largely to Blame for Israel's Gaza Offensive
How is it that Hamas, a terrorist organization that refused to extend the truce and fired rockets at civilians on a daily basis, gets so much sympathy, with Israel condemned for defending itself?
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Johann Hari: The True Story Behind This War is Not the One Israel is Telling
The Israeli government wants peace, but only one imposed on its own terms, based on the acceptance of defeat by the Palestinians.
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Lionel Beehner: Did Israel Use Disproportionate Force?
The tide of public opinion seems to invariably side with the underdog, regardless of who's to blame. Hence, Israel now finds itself in the awkward yet familiar position of defending its actions.
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Amb. Marc Ginsberg: It's Overtime for Hamas' Leaders and Time for Them to Go
As long as Hamas rules its Gaza roost with its iron fist, any hope for a two state solution is just not in the cards. Hamas plays with a crooked deck.
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Robert Scheer: Gaza Clouds Obama's Prospects
Clearly, Hamas and its hard-line supporters in the region reject the goal of an Israel at peace with its neighbors and secure within its boundaries.
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Nathan Gardels: The U.N.'s Richard Falk: Gaza a Victim of Geopolitics
The people of Gaza are victims of geopolitics at its inhumane worst: producing what Israel itself calls a "total war" against an essentially defenseless society that lacks any defensive military capability whatsoever.
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Nathan Gardels: Brzezinski: Obama Must Press Agreement on Israelis and Palestinians
In order to get beyond the superficial analyses one might find on Morning Joe, I called up Zbigniew Brzezinski to offer him a serious opportunity to talk about Obama and the Israeli-Hamas conflict.
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Meris Lutz: My Kuffiyeh Says I Care
It's New Years Eve in Beirut, and everyone is wondering what to do. In times of war, going about one's usual business can be a form of protest. In times of solidarity, the code of conduct is vague.
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Ahmed Shihab-Eldin: Kuwait's Political Machinations Lower U.S. Stocks as War on Gaza Raises Oil Prices
As the American dollar declines and bombs drop on Gaza, the likeliness of regional countries becoming drawn into the conflict are mounting.
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Diane Tucker: In Gaza, A Doctor's Voice Tells of Shaking Houses, Breaking Windows
Four days after Israeli air attacks against the Gaza Strip began, hospitals are already overwhelmed by the influx of wounded patients.
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Mark Levine: To Succeed in Israel/Palestine Where Clinton Failed, Obama Needs a History Lesson
If Obama limits his negotiating horizons to the failed visions of his Clinton-era Mideast team, the situation in Israel-Palestine is going to get a lot worse in the coming years.
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Jennifer Utz: Killing the Messenger: Targeting the Press in Gaza
As is with the current situation with Gaza, when Israel is performing air strikes, everyone is vulnerable -- militants, civilians, and journalists alike.
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Adam Horowitz: Jews are Soul-Searching About Madoff -- What About Gaza?
The future of Judaism and the moral standing of the US Jewish community are being threatened. It is happening in Gaza. And unfortunately there is far too little handwringing about it in the Jewish leadership.
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John Bruhns: Israel: Attacks on Gaza will Likely Backfire
If you're a civilian living in Gaza and an Israeli missile strikes your home killing your loved ones what are you to do? . Chances are you're going to take up arms and attack anyone and everyone you feel is responsible for the death of your family.
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Cenk Uygur: How Israel is Wrong and the Palestinians are Misguided
Israel is occupying the West Bank (and effectively Gaza because they control the borders, the airspace, etc.). What are they going to do with it -- hold on to it forever?
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James Zogby: American Jewish Responses to Gaza: Old & New
In the past several years, the emergence of pro-peace American Jewish organizations has provided an alternative voice on critical Middle East issues.
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Michael Shaw: Reading The Pictures: Is That A Snuff Film The Israeli Air Force Has Posted On YouTube? |
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Richard Falk: Understanding the Gaza Catastrophe
The people of Gaza are victims of geopolitics at its inhumane worst: producing what Israel itself calls a 'total war' against an essentially defenseless society.
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Karin Kloosterman: A Minnesota College Newspaper Editor on Israel-Hamas Conflict, from Tel Aviv
There are 6 sets of parents in America right now who might be wishing that their kids weren't college newspaper editors.
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Adam Horowitz: Even in Sderot, Israelis Say No to Endless War
The people I met in Sderot were not calling for war, they were calling for negotiation. They knew that they would be the ones to catch the brunt of an attack on Gaza, not Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem.
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Daoud Kuttab: Selective Memory Is a Problem when dealing with the Israeli- Palestinian Conflict
Irrespective of time and chronology, trading land for peace continues to be the most logical and appropriate way to address the conflict which has bridged the 20th and 21st centuries.
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Robert Koehler: The Future of Civilization
No war, no military action, no act of self-defense or revenge has a legitimacy that exempts the perpetrators from responsibility for the consequences they create.
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Robert Naiman: Calling Out Bush's War in Gaza
Is it in the interest of humanity that we Americans engage in the charade that the Israeli government is an autonomous actor in this matter?
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Dennis Perrin: Israel/Palestine Debate Is Shifting
With each fresh round of bombing, Israel's reputation gets worse, allowing growing numbers of people who might never have said a critical word about that country to finally speak up.
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Laila Al-Arian: After Years in Exile, My Grandfather Returns to Gaza
My family had been trying to speak with my grandfather since Saturday, after Israel began its onslaught on Gaza. But we haven't managed to reach him.
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James Zogby: Gaza: Lessons We Should Have Learned
The horrors that are unfolding in Gaza are but a tragic replay of past confrontations.
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MJ Rosenberg: Where Is Israel Going?
Does the Gaza war improve Israel's long-term (or even short-term) situation? I am not questioning Israel's right to respond. But that is the wrong question.
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Ahmed Shihab-Eldin: Israel May Win in Gaza, Hamas Won't Lose and Moderate Arab Leaders and Obama Will Worry
With or without intention, Israel has incited millions across the Arab world to praise Syria and Iran, both dedicated to the Palestinian cause, and perhaps just as many to condemn Egypt and more moderate countries.
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Greg Mitchell: Israel's Invasion Inspires One-Sided Commentary in U.S. Media
The invasion, to no one's surprise, did begin today -- so any further criticism will now come too late. But as in the past, U.S. media coverage and commentary has overwhelmingly backed Israeli actions.
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Howard Schweber: Israel and Hamas: Two to Tango
What is going on in Gaza is that it is not the result of a sudden decision or an immediate and intolerable provocation by one side or the other -- this thing has been in the planning by both sides for months.
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Ahmed Shihab-Eldin: Protesters in Beirut Demand Action from Arab Leaders on Gaza, Focusing on Egypt as Demonstrations Rise (VIDEO)
Millions across the Arab world are demonstrating, demanding that Arab governments do more to support Palestinians trapped in Gaza.
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Gordon Marino: Maybe Hamas is Not so Stupid
Judged as a piece of political theater, Hamas has succeeded in presenting Israel as the golem on the block.
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Max Blumenthal: Why Aren't More Americans Dancing To Israel's Tune?
The surprising trend in American opinion on Gaza may be because the same pundits who are cheerleading Israel's assault once sold the occupation of Iraq, and with a nearly identical set of arguments.
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Ilana Teitelbaum: Photos From Israel That You Won't See on the News
Israel is not media savvy -- we have installed warning systems and bomb shelters. No casualties means no photos, which means that many incidents aren't even covered by the media.
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Mitchell Bard: Hamas Is Responsible for the Civilian Casualties in Gaza
By choosing tactical advantages over the safety of its citizens, the terrorist organization chose its military goals over the safety of its fellow Palestinians in Gaza.
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Ahmed Shihab-Eldin: Al Jazeera English Beats Israel's Ban on Reporters in Gaza with Exclusive Coverage
Some may call it propaganda but I call it hardcore reporting. If you are not watching Al Jazeera English's coverage of the War on Gaza, you are missing much, if not, most of the story.
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Zaina Arafat: Israel's Extensive PR Campaign
Last Friday, at the height of the attacks, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak announced without a hint of irony: "We are peace seekers."
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Ken Bacon: No Exit for Civilians in Gaza in the Midst of War
In similar situations around the world, civilians caught in the midst of conflict would have the option of seeking safety in neighboring countries as refugees. Gazans have no such option.
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Chris Meserole: Israel's Risk
What we're watching in Gaza is not so much low-intensity warfare as the continued fracture of the post-Soviet international order.
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Marty Kaplan: Eyeless in Gaza
I wish I didn't believe that the events now unfolding in the Middle East are too complicated for unalloyed outrage. I wish the arguments of only one side rang wholly true to me.
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David H. Young: How Propaganda Hijacked Israeli Strategy in Gaza
While Israel's explicit goal is to cease all attacks on southern Israel, senior IDF and intelligence officials have privately signaled that this is unrealistic, even with a ground invasion.
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John Feffer: Israel as Mini-Me
We are both settler states -- the Puritans, who escaped oppression in the Old World only to mete out oppression in the New, unfolded their Zionist project in the 17th century with their "city built upon a hill" as the New Jerusalem.
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David Quigg: Israel, Hamas, Gaza: Plenty of Us in America Just Need to Shut Up
Something labeled "Subject: Fwd: Some Differences Between Hamas and the Nazi Party" showed up in my inbox Monday night.
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Alon Ben-Meir: Changing the Reality in Gaza
Counting on international pressure to bring a quick end to the Israeli onslaught may prove to be misplaced as Israel is now determined to never allow a return to the status quo ante.
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Greg Mitchell: NY Times Responds Weakly Today to Israel's 'Incursion' -- As Shells Kill Dozens at U.N. School
It takes until paragraph #8 for the Times, to mention that, by the way, Israel "must" allow foreign journalists access to Gaza, especially since its highest court so ordered.
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Rob Kall: Was Israel Punked by Hamas? Are Progressives Attacking Israel Being Punked too?
The only way the Israeli and Palestinian people have a shot at peace is for outsiders to put pressure on both sides to make it happen and to stop the violence. It can be done.
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Rabbi Shmuley Boteach: Overwhelming Force Is the Only Way to Fight Terrorists
The destruction of Hamas benefits the Palestinians far more than the Israelis. It is they that must live under the cruelty of an organization that terrorizes its citizens even more than its enemies.
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Lola Adesioye: Obama -- Please Say Something!
In just over two weeks Obama will be unable to avoid saying something and the world will be looking to him and demanding to hear his opinion on the crisis in Gaza.
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Cenk Uygur: What Was Israel Supposed to Do?
Every day now, I hear someone saying, "What was Israel supposed to do? Hamas keeps firing rockets into their country." So, here is a quick list of the things they were supposed to do.
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Andy Ostroy: Why Israel Was Right to Invade Gaza
How should Israel attempt to protect its people, long-term, if it merely acts defensively in a tit-for-tat manner? That would be a horribly naïve response given its history.
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Deepak Chopra: How to Defeat Hamas -- Face Up to the Truth
Making Hamas into a unique demon is pure propaganda. But no form of Islamic extremism will end until moderate Muslims stand up for their religion.
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Robert Scheer: Why Do So Few Speak Up for Gaza?
Why is it that there is such widespread acceptance, beginning with the apologetic arguments of George Bush, that whatever Israel does is always justified as necessary to the survival of the Jewish state?
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Mona Gable: Gaza on YouTube: Film at 11!
In lieu of actual reporting, all you have to do is log on to the Israel Defense Forces' YouTube Channel and you can see images of Israel pummeling Gaza, and sit in on "the first ever" Twitter press conference.
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Gail Vida Hamburg: Hold Your Fire: Children and Civilians In Gaza
If the killing of unarmed civilians by terrorist groups is wrong, Israel's killing of unarmed Palestinian civilians and our defense of Israel's conduct cannot be right.
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Allan Gerson: Proportionality and Disproportionality: A Guide to Arguments about Gaza
Even if the guns fall silent the charges and counter-charges of violations of international law will continue. Already the airwaves are full of talk that Israel's "disproportionate" response is a violation of international law.
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Greg Mitchell: AP Reporter Watches Own Home Destroyed, via YouTube, in Gaza
In one of the most moving accounts of the war in Gaza, Ibrahim Barzak, the AP's chief correspondent there for 17 years, today wrote of watching his own home destroyed on YouTube.
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Jim Arkedis: Livni and Barak's Gaza Calculus
If hundreds of innocent deaths helps secure a real security mandate for the moderate-to-dovish Kadima/Labor and Israeli-Palestinian peace, that's political calculus Livni and Barak were willing to take.
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Tom Hayden: Obama's Silence
As January 20 approaches, Obama will have to make a lonely decision - to remember his 2007 words about Palestinian suffering and his campaign pledge to talk unconditionally with adversaries.
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Amb. Marc Ginsberg: Gaza: Fight at the End of the Tunnel?
Any ceasefire must include an ironclad commitment by Egypt to cooperate fully with Israel to shut Hamas' tunnel network once and for all whatever Hamas' political or military wings decide tomorrow in Cairo.
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Mustafa Barghouthi: Palestine's Guernica and the Myths of Israeli Victimhood
After hundreds dead and counting, it is Israel who refuses to re-enter talks over a cease-fire. They are not intent on securing peace as they claim; it is more and more clear that they are seeking regime change -- whatever the cost.
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Ben Cohen: Mitchell Bard is Wrong On Israel
Hamas did not start this conflict. Here's an extensive time line of events, making clear that Israel broke the ceasefire, not Hamas.
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Maxwell Kennedy: Fanaticism and Contempt
Once the master of revolutionary war, Israel cannot seem to grasp the essential nature of asymmetrical warfare.
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Jeffrey Feldman: Obama Camp "Prepared To Talk To Hamas," Says the Guardian
The Obama administration's emphasis on "talk" with Hamas will bring a significant moral shift in U.S. policy -- but it will not do away with some of the core grievances vis-a-vis U.S.-Israel relations.
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Murray Fromson: Letter From Beersheva
I am here in Beersheva -- on the "almost" frontlines of the conflict with Hamas -- to tell you the first thing to go when missiles start to fall nearby, is your diet.
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Karin Kloosterman: Georgetown Newspaper Editor Reports on Sderot-Gaza, and Recording With Rockets
In a recording studio in Sderot, a few miles east of Israel's Gaza strip, Sergio Arditi felt the steady pulse of Rock and Roll give way to the sporadic vibration of bombs.
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Great surely first up for Martyrdom should be the leader of Hamas so he can show a good example to the young ones.
No ?
Well perhaps he has a good excuse. Maybe he gets car sick ?
No ?
Could it be that he and the other leaders of Hamas are yellow bellied cowards who hide behind women and children and send deluded morons to their deaths for no reason other than to fuel their hate filled egos in pursuit of a Fascistic dreamland.
Yes !
HumeSkeptic:
When I say "People who often buy into a system do so because they can profit from the system."
What I mean is, people are not always honest. They will play people's beliefs/religions/ideologies to make a buck.
Is that happening right now? I think so.
Are all Republicans "good Christians"? No, I don't think so. They align themselves politically for personal gain with no regard for the religious beliefs of their fellow party members. They're cynical money grubbers pulling others' heartstrings.
Are all Republicans "cynical money grubbers pulling others' heartstrings"?
Of course we are. And we all dress just like the little dude in Monopoly and light our Havanas with $20 bills. And we're all white, descended from former slave owners. And we all secretly desire to hit homosexuals over the head with baseball bats. Oh, and we all joined the KKK. Did that clear things up? Funny, usually when I think of "cynical money grubbers" in that light, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson come to mind, not Ronald Reagan or Goldwater.
Here is an expression from my country: When a mouse wishes to die, it sniffs the cat's nose (it sounds better in the original language). I hope Hamas got the reaction they wanted from Israel.
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Exactly.
It can not proven or unproven
Either way, it is a belief which you can not prove.
The only logical (and honest) answer is "I do not know".
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I responded to a similar post by you earlier on this same thread. You either didn't read it or you didn't understand it.
What you are proposing is that I prove a negative. Let me repeat my earlier example to illustrate my point:
I claim that there is a dragon living in your garage that cannot be detected by any means whatsoever. In other words, since it cannot be detected, you cannot prove that it does not exist. Then, by your logic, you must start believing that it does exist.
Did I just make you a believer in undetectable dragon living in your garage?
And are you willing to say that "I do not know whether the dragon is there or not", which, according to you, would be the "logical (and real) answer?
How about unicorns? How about a Spaghetti M0nster? How about people wih multiple heads? Are you willing to believe that they all might exist because you can't prove that they don't?
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I can not know that they exist or do not exist if I can not prove or disprove them.
They could be dragons or unicorns or Spaghetti Monsters -- or not -- I haven't the ability to prove or disprove them. If you give me solid proof either way, then I will believe. But, no one as yet has provided evidence one way or the other. It is impossible for me to say. To propose that there is no god is as preposterous to me as to propose there is one. I do not assume I know either way.
I rest my case.
If you wish to believe in God and undetectable dragons and unicorns and spaghetti monsters, someone will find an appropriate description for your mental state.
This conversation is now over. :-)
Wars between neighbors are bad. Wars between religions are worse. Religious wars between neighbors are the worst.
In my view, this is not a religious war. Some use religion as a recruitment tool, but it is about territory.
Yes, I agree, it is about one people encroaching on the territory of another. Yet both sides are using their established religions as a justification for their actions. Which goes back to the argument that you used just yesterday that you believe "religion" (belief) is something people need to eradicate from their lives in order to achieve peace.
Is this not the viewpoint you were espousing? I believe it was.
Really? It's not religious? This is not about a God-given birthright? You bet it is and they won't be satisfied until they grab every square inch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSAvaYY-y7Q
The territory and religion are intertwined. Here's some biblical history as background to this ancient conflict between the Jews and Arabs. First of all, the Jews and Arabs are half-brothers, according to the Bible and the Koran. The Jews are descendants of Isaac and the Arabs are descendants of Ishmael, both of whom were Abraham's sons. Sarah, Abraham's wife, was Isaac's mother and Hagar, Abraham's concubine, was Ishmael's mother. Ishmael, Abraham's firstborn son, should have been given the Birthright of the firstborn, his father's land, according to ancient law. But, because he was Abraham's son from a legally recognized marriage, Isaac ,was given the birthright, the land of Israel. Ishmael was cast out. So, the Jews and Arabs have been fighting over this land ever since, each group believing the land rightfully, historically belongs to them.
Martyrdom? I believe there is a quote that says that no person wins a war by dying for his country. He wins by making the other person die for theirs.
Any time one side decides that "martyrdom" "suicide bombings", etc they lose all credibility. I know some will say death is death no matter the terminology but "martyrdom" is not policy...its just madness.
There is plenty of madness in this region to go around but someone has to be the lesser of two or five evils.
There is no moral difference bewteen telling someone to go dIe for religion (martyrdom) and to go d!e for your "way of life" or for your country (patriotism).
There is no moral difference bewteen using suicide bombers to k!ll civilians and using airplanes to drop b0mbs that k!ll civilians. The former is used as a desperate measure by those who do not have airplanes and other sophisticated equipment to k!ll.
One might argue that suic!de b0mbers specifically target civilians. In actuality, that is not true. They do so mainly because they cannot get close to soldiers without being detected (security around bases, etc.)
The above said, there is no moral justification for k!lling of civilians, by anyone.
Hence, atheism = a belief in no god(s) (don't trust it).
And, theism = a belief in god(s) (don't trust it).
There is no moral difference bewteen telling someone to go d!e for religion (martyrdom) and to go d!e for your "way of life" or for your country (patriotism).
There is no moral difference bewteen using su!cide b0mbers to k!ll civilians and using airplanes to drop b0mbs that k!ll civilians. The former is used as a desperate measure by those who do not have airplanes and other sophisticated equipment to k!ll.
One might argue that suic!de b0mbers specifically t@rget civilians. In actuality, that is not true. They do so mainly because they cannot get close to soldiers without being detected (security around bases, etc.)
The above said, there is no moral justification for k!lling of civilians, by anyone.
Why do you feel that you must symbols to express your thoughts and not the actual letters?
Notice, I never do that. And, my comments always go through. You don't have to do that, really.
You say ' your "way of life" or for your country (patriotism). '
But yet, you say people must give up beliefs. The biggest genocide in history was presided over by people who claimed to have 'no god' -- yet another belief.
They were the Soviets and they had the Society of the Godless. All "religious" movements were persecuted by the state.
Religion simply means "belief system" -- not simply a belief in a supernatural being (which can neither be proved or disproved -- but any *belief*.
Hence, the separation of church and state -- which protects us from *any* belief which tries to control us. Atheist are a danger to us as much as Christians ans Muslims. Do not have blind faith in any religion or ideology.
Hamas is a criminal organization who runs to their big brothers each time they taunt Israel and get spanked.
The mullah in Iran and other rugheads
H@mas cannot be so dumb as to think that they can win against Is-ra-el millitarily. So, why did they fire those rockets?
It was to make Is-ra-el overreact in the manner that they did. This is exactly what H@mas wanted.
Yes, Is-ra-el can go k!ll some P@lestinians. But, in the long run, H@mas hopes to come out ahead in political gain and in gaining inernational sympathy and support for P@lest!nians.
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Hamas can only win if there are enough people like you to support them, HumeSeptic. It must feel weird for you to be in the minority here for once.
Like the use of dashes and the "at" symbol though.
He is not in the minority. There is the silent majority who sees and understands but in this country maybe afraid to speak their mind. That is changing, slowly.
I do not support H@mas. I do support the P@lestinian cause for homeland and freedom.
I find that my posts are delayed if I spell those words without dashes or "at" symbols. It is not meant to annoy anyone.
As for being in the minority, I'm quite used to it. I have found that people who use reason and logic are in the minority on most topics. In fact, I would rather be in that minority.
Isn't it funny how the honchos who call for martyrdom are not willing to become martyrs themselves. Sending others into the meat grinder is easy.
http://www.youspar.com/
So much wrong with your statement
A. When a US soldier goes to Iraq there is a good chance that he or she will come home.
Suicide missions tend to be one way trips, hence the name
B. Recruits to the US military are all volunteer. Nobody is forced to join the US army but on
the other hand women have been forced to become suicide bombers because of the
threat of disgracing their "family honor". Mentally ill adolescents have been tricked into
becoming suicide bombers.
Stop pretending that everything is equal. Why don't you read what Hamas's ultimate goals are. Is a genocide against the Jewish people something you can get behind ?
If you are so dense you equate the call to our soldiers to the call for people to go into civilian areas and kill civilians you embarrass the memory of Hume. You should be ashamed.
I didn't see Georgie flying a plane or riding a rocket into Baghdad either.
I'm down with the Martydom.
If all the hams people blew themselves up the problem would be solved.
The "problem" had a "final solution" because of people like you.
There will be more to take their place. Maybe a different name but they will be there and more powerful and angry. Memories last long in the middle east. Pray that Izzi wakes up and seeks out true peace.
I also support the martyrdom doctrine. If all the islams blew themselves up the world would be a better place.
But they should do it in Gaza not in Israel
I know two young men from Palestine and they tell me how bad it is. Both grew up in violence because they told me you have to join a gang or else if for some reason someone kills you, you need a member of your gang to get revenge.
One of the young men, late teens, early twenties, was shot when he was eight years old. He was selling guns for his gang when a rival shot him. They both worked for and were involved in gangs because their is no work.
They told me they just want the fighting to end and are very happy to be in the United States.
STOP THE KI LL ING OF INNOCENTS!!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coyote2012/2153246249/
That is exactly what Hamas wanted. Some innocent die, good pr for Hamas. They don't care about the poor people of Palestine. Hamas is Iran's mercenary. It is a big business
Huffington Post | Hanna Ingber Win | December 28, 2008 02:36 PM