Franken Up By 50 In Recount, For Now

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First Posted: 12-30-08 10:53 AM   |   Updated: 01-30-09 05:12 AM

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Al Franken has ended the unofficial Minnesota Senate election recount up 50 votes over Sen. Norm Coleman.

The margin is subject to change as the state and both campaigns considers what to do with roughly 1,350 wrongfully rejected absentee ballots. But the canvassing board's decision carries with it some political and symbolic importance.

The 50-vote margin represents the final voting total reached after the state recounted all 2.9 million ballots cast on Election Day and sifted through the approximately 1,500 ballots that were challenged during the recount process by both campaigns. Franken started the process down by roughly 215 votes, meaning that a shift of roughly 265 votes took place.

The next major step in the election process will come on January 5th or 6th, when both campaigns are expected to reintroduce a pool of absentee ballots that the State Supreme Court declared wrongfully rejected. Both campaigns must agree on which ballots to re-introduce, and Coleman threw a small wrench into the process by highlighting a scant 136 such ballots. The Franken campaign has held that all 1,346 ballots be resubmitted.

But Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, in a telephone conversation with the Huffington Post Monday evening, said he expected both candidates to come to an "amenable" agreement.

"The Coleman campaign has said in public that they expect these meetings to be amenable, we expect them to be amenable. We expect a portion of those ballots to end up in our office Friday," said Ritchie. "The [other] thing is that the State Supreme Court has said in very stern language that all parties will approach this in a very fair minded approach. So the Supreme Court can decide that ... if any of the parties are not approaching this in the right way, they can take action."

Should Franken emerge victorious after the issue of wrongfully rejected absentee ballots is solved, the Coleman campaign has suggested that they will legally appeal the result. That could drag on the process for weeks or months. And, as such, some Minnesota officials -- in particular Sen. Amy Klobuchar -- have suggested that the state seat the winner on a temporary basis until those lawsuits are settled.

UPDATE: The campaigns have, predictably, two very different responses to the canvass board ruling. Franken welcomed the news as evidence that he is "on track to win." Coleman, meanwhile, accused state officials of being in the bag for the Democratic candidate.

In a quickly convened press briefing following the board's decision, Coleman lawyer Tony Trimble singled out Deputy Secretary of State Jim Gelbmann's as being a biased force in the recount process.

"He's gone out and done their work," said Trimble. "He's gone out and advised county officials to simply count those [wrongfully rejected absentee ballots] the Franken campaign wants."

Meanwhile, in a statement issued in his own name, Franken writes:

"Today, the state canvassing board completed an important step in this process. I'm glad to be ahead, and as it appears that we're on track to win, I want Minnesotans to know that I'm ready to get to work for them in Washington on Day One. We still need to ensure that Minnesotans whose absentee ballots were improperly rejected aren't disenfranchised, but we are close to the finish line. And we should all be proud of our state's electoral process, and grateful for the dedication of our public servants, from the state canvassing board down to elections officials at the local level."

Al Franken has ended the unofficial Minnesota Senate election recount up 50 votes over Sen. Norm Coleman. The margin is subject to change as the state and both campaigns considers what to do with rou...
Al Franken has ended the unofficial Minnesota Senate election recount up 50 votes over Sen. Norm Coleman. The margin is subject to change as the state and both campaigns considers what to do with rou...
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- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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Coleman Attacks Democracy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 12/30/2008

This should not have been so close a race. Coleman is a creep and Franken is a gentleman and a scholar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 12/30/2008
- jazzycafe I'm a Fan of jazzycafe 45 fans permalink
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You would think that Minnesotans would have come to that conclusion early on, but it doesn't surprise me that it's been so close when......­.........t­hey re-elected Michele Bachman!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 12/30/2008
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Not all of them - just one nutjob district.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 12/31/2008
- atomic I'm a Fan of atomic 65 fans permalink
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It is interesting how people have learned how not to trip the sensors that review the comments here. It's sad that certain words are singled out as ones to look for to determine that a post must be screened first. I can't figure out what those words are however because all my posts get reviewed and I never know if they make it up here or not ... maybe it's also related to their length.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 12/30/2008
- StellaRay I'm a Fan of StellaRay 212 fans permalink

atomic, there's no rhyme or reason to it. I've never used a swear word, made a threat or posted anything less than a reasonable opinion written with much thought on my part, and still, I've been deleted lots of times. They used to list your deletions on your profile page, but no longer. I think you have to accept that it's somewhat of a random system, perhaps automated at times, perhaps a crabby human at others. You pays your money, you takes your chances.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 12/30/2008
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Yeh, I'm hearing you there. My right of reply was denied to a blast from an overly PC poster, implying I was from the other side. Still hasn't been posted. I also noticed if you use any words relating to ethnicity or the like, it's censored. I guess not so surprising, but when they don't go on and post in the end, it's a bit stifling to free speech.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 AM on 01/01/2009
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 109 fans permalink
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Yes and no. On the one hand I agree with you, they are overreacting and blocking posts that should get through. On the other hand, there IS no freedom of speech issue here, since they are not a governmental agency.

And for what it's worth, while it's not a freedom of speech issue, I think that it would be better if they simply let them all through and then waited for people to flag a posted comment as abusive before they pulled it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 01/02/2009
- poochytown I'm a Fan of poochytown 18 fans permalink

Al pumps iron, y'know, and could no doubt punch in Coleman's head like a rotten pumpkin. Just sayin', that's all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 12/30/2008
- weatherwaxx I'm a Fan of weatherwaxx 255 fans permalink

That's not precisely an argument that holds water. Hulk Hogan could flatten Dennis Kucinich, but that wouldn't make him qualified to sit in Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 12/30/2008
- puffhost I'm a Fan of puffhost 11 fans permalink

I'd take the Hulkster over Bob Inglis, the representative from my district. Who else thinks that HH would be better than your rep?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 12/30/2008
- lobear00 I'm a Fan of lobear00 25 fans permalink

If you look at the members sitting in the congress now!! you don't have to look far for the word " Incompetent" . These are the "Thoughtless, Spineless, Ignorant representatives yet to serve the people of the united states. Our representatives "Lied" to us only to get elected, to serve corporate america and not the people .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 12/30/2008
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Yeah well, we elected Jesse Ventura and look how well that turned out... NOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 12/31/2008
- Davwbaird I'm a Fan of Davwbaird 23 fans permalink
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Republicans are such sore losers, and of course inheritable losers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 12/30/2008
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You haven't been around this site long enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 12/30/2008
- SugarMan I'm a Fan of SugarMan 4 fans permalink

Looks like Coleman lost

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 PM on 12/30/2008
- Angelic11 I'm a Fan of Angelic11 22 fans permalink
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yawn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 12/30/2008
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Right back at ya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 12/30/2008
- stunsitfel I'm a Fan of stunsitfel 33 fans permalink
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Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and now Al Franken. You can't write a better script.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 12/30/2008
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A bankrupt nation, civil liberties gone, Depression looming, all thanks to George Bush and the Republicans. Can't write a more sad script for this nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 12/30/2008
- stunsitfel I'm a Fan of stunsitfel 33 fans permalink
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Published 10/2/2008 at Townhall.com Blog's TownHall Blog
Today, the Wall Street Journal has a series of pro-Freddie and pro-Fannie quotes from Democrat lawmakers (HT: commenter Joe in post below). Here's just a snippet: This from Barney Frank: I do think I do not want the same kind of focus on safety and soundness that we have in OCC [Office of the Comptroller of the Currency] and OTS [Office of Thrift Supervision]. I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidized housing." And this, from the priceless Maxine Waters: Mr. Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and in particular at Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Mr. Frank Raines.
There is plenty to go around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 12/30/2008
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Bloviating trol/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 12/30/2008

George Bush, Dick Cheney, Dennis Hastert, Larry Craig, David Vitter, Sarah Palin, Former Govenor Ney, J. Boehner, Mitch McConell, Michele Bachman, Roy Blunt, Foley, and too many others to name.
No reason to ask why the GOP will be in the toilet for the next few years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 12/30/2008

I wish you wrote better posts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 12/30/2008
- stunsitfel I'm a Fan of stunsitfel 33 fans permalink
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I am on it Chief. Your six words of incredible wisdom were provoking. I look forward to your next mumble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 12/30/2008
- Amalek I'm a Fan of Amalek 103 fans permalink
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Ted Stevens, Tom Vilsack, Larry Craig ... that is a script

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 12/30/2008
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 229 fans permalink
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Did Al Franken just get sucker punched? If he and Coleman made an agreement that they would only count the wrongly rejected ballots that both agreed upon then by the terms of this agreement only Norm Coleman's 135 can be counted since both sides agree on those 135. All others would have to be rejected.

It's a clever trick if it works. Pure Rovian!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 12/30/2008
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That's not what happened. The MN Supreme court told them that they have to agree on a ballot before they are counted. Al Franken wants to count all 1,356 wrongly rejected absentee ballots. Norm Coleman is playing games by saying that he wants other absentee ballots that were rejected for one of the four reasons also counted. It's no surprise that the ballots he wants counted are from heavily Republican districts. One county he tried it with said absolutely no way they were going back into the piles 1-4 and only pile 5 would be counted. Another county just cut off negotiations when Coleman tried it in that county and Franken refused to go along with it.

Franken = count all legal votes and let the chips fall where they may
Coleman = count only votes I think will end up being for me.

This will end up in going back to the Supreme Court because Franken is going to say that Coleman is not negotiating in good faith and Franken is right. The Supreme Court never should have tossed this ball into the laps of the two campaigns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 12/30/2008
- isadora I'm a Fan of isadora 15 fans permalink

Always knew you'd do it, Al. You have so many wonderful qualities, including modesty. Repubs just don't understand that, and likely never will. A great moment. I will toast you and the Senator elect from Alaska on New Year's Eve. You and my party will make this a great year--I am a Femocrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 12/30/2008
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Al, wishing you a very Happy New Year and a sincere thank you for all your efforts and tenacity. You didn't let the ba stards get you down! Minnesota and the country needs you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 12/30/2008
- rbarry647 I'm a Fan of rbarry647 84 fans permalink
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What was Nate Silvers prediction, Fraken wins by 27 votes?
Very close, I want to go gambling with Nate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 12/30/2008
- majorteddy I'm a Fan of majorteddy 7 fans permalink

My cousin Bubba is waiting for Normie to be his cell mate. He thinks Normie is cute. Bubba likes skinny guys like Normie. Normie is going to go to prison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 12/30/2008

He better be careful about what he wishes for....NCs chompers could inflict serious harm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 12/30/2008
- puffhost I'm a Fan of puffhost 11 fans permalink

... but I bet they could toss a mean salad!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 12/30/2008
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I will never get tired of posting this:
GO, AL, GO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 12/30/2008
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Ditto! Sentaor Franken - has a nice ring to it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 12/30/2008
- puffhost I'm a Fan of puffhost 11 fans permalink

Ditto's from SC

lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 12/30/2008

Go Al!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 12/30/2008
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