Franken Up By 50 In Recount, For Now

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First Posted: 12-30-08 10:53 AM   |   Updated: 01-30-09 05:12 AM

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Al Franken has ended the unofficial Minnesota Senate election recount up 50 votes over Sen. Norm Coleman.

The margin is subject to change as the state and both campaigns considers what to do with roughly 1,350 wrongfully rejected absentee ballots. But the canvassing board's decision carries with it some political and symbolic importance.

The 50-vote margin represents the final voting total reached after the state recounted all 2.9 million ballots cast on Election Day and sifted through the approximately 1,500 ballots that were challenged during the recount process by both campaigns. Franken started the process down by roughly 215 votes, meaning that a shift of roughly 265 votes took place.

The next major step in the election process will come on January 5th or 6th, when both campaigns are expected to reintroduce a pool of absentee ballots that the State Supreme Court declared wrongfully rejected. Both campaigns must agree on which ballots to re-introduce, and Coleman threw a small wrench into the process by highlighting a scant 136 such ballots. The Franken campaign has held that all 1,346 ballots be resubmitted.

But Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, in a telephone conversation with the Huffington Post Monday evening, said he expected both candidates to come to an "amenable" agreement.

"The Coleman campaign has said in public that they expect these meetings to be amenable, we expect them to be amenable. We expect a portion of those ballots to end up in our office Friday," said Ritchie. "The [other] thing is that the State Supreme Court has said in very stern language that all parties will approach this in a very fair minded approach. So the Supreme Court can decide that ... if any of the parties are not approaching this in the right way, they can take action."

Should Franken emerge victorious after the issue of wrongfully rejected absentee ballots is solved, the Coleman campaign has suggested that they will legally appeal the result. That could drag on the process for weeks or months. And, as such, some Minnesota officials -- in particular Sen. Amy Klobuchar -- have suggested that the state seat the winner on a temporary basis until those lawsuits are settled.

UPDATE: The campaigns have, predictably, two very different responses to the canvass board ruling. Franken welcomed the news as evidence that he is "on track to win." Coleman, meanwhile, accused state officials of being in the bag for the Democratic candidate.

In a quickly convened press briefing following the board's decision, Coleman lawyer Tony Trimble singled out Deputy Secretary of State Jim Gelbmann's as being a biased force in the recount process.

"He's gone out and done their work," said Trimble. "He's gone out and advised county officials to simply count those [wrongfully rejected absentee ballots] the Franken campaign wants."

Meanwhile, in a statement issued in his own name, Franken writes:

"Today, the state canvassing board completed an important step in this process. I'm glad to be ahead, and as it appears that we're on track to win, I want Minnesotans to know that I'm ready to get to work for them in Washington on Day One. We still need to ensure that Minnesotans whose absentee ballots were improperly rejected aren't disenfranchised, but we are close to the finish line. And we should all be proud of our state's electoral process, and grateful for the dedication of our public servants, from the state canvassing board down to elections officials at the local level."

Al Franken has ended the unofficial Minnesota Senate election recount up 50 votes over Sen. Norm Coleman. The margin is subject to change as the state and both campaigns considers what to do with rou...
Al Franken has ended the unofficial Minnesota Senate election recount up 50 votes over Sen. Norm Coleman. The margin is subject to change as the state and both campaigns considers what to do with rou...
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"He's gone out and done their work," said Trimble. "He's gone out and advised county officials to simply count those [wrongfully rejected absentee ballots] the Franken campaign wants."
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I am quite sure it is not only the Franken campaign who wants the WRONGFULLY REJECTED ballots to be counted. I am quite sure the people who cast those WRONGFULLY REJECTED ballots want their votes counted too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 12/30/2008
- BalletMom I'm a Fan of BalletMom 37 fans permalink
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No doubt.

Under lessons learned from this election, as a MN resident, I want to see:

1. Early voting (not just the absentee alternative)

2. Serious consideration of instant run-off voting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 12/30/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 127 fans permalink
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That's reasonabe.­..too resonable.­..the red tr0lls will be attacking. Early voting is a great idea. It might even make run-off voting work if the two are used together. Run-off voting in other states typically get less than half the original turn-out. The results are less the will of the people than the will of the tenaciously fanatic fringe. I do not think that there are any states which use early voting in conjunction with run-off voting

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 12/30/2008
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I can't understand why the validity of these ballots is still at issue? If the Supreme Court decided that these votes were *wrongfully* rejected, that means they need to be *counted*.

Why should the candidates have a say in which ballots wrongfully rejected get counted? If they were wrongfully rejected, they *ALL* get counted. What am I missing? The decision of the Court--and the State's Constitution which guarantees an individual's right to representation--are the only things that matter here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 12/30/2008
- bubbuh I'm a Fan of bubbuh 127 fans permalink
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Tell it to the MN Supreme Court which mandated the process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 12/30/2008

Boy are you confused. The winner is the canidate who receives the most votes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 12/30/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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No, No, No! The winner is the one with the brother in the governor's office!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 12/30/2008

Heh... no doubt!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 12/30/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

Only in Florida.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 12/30/2008
- BronxBorn I'm a Fan of BronxBorn 50 fans permalink
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I ------- Love It !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 12/30/2008
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....reintr­oduce a pool of absentee ballots that the State Supreme Court declared wrongfully rejected.
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The Supreme Court found the ballots to have been wrongfully rejected and yet they demanded that the campaigns determine which ones should be counted. Where is the logic in that? They should have simply said that they should all be counted since they were all "wrongfully rejected".

The way they have set it up, it gives Coleman the power to refuse to count a ballot, even though it is a legal ballot, just because it is not in a district that favors him. And that is exactly what Coleman is doing.

Franken needs to refuse to participate and demand that it go back to the SC so that they can make a logical decision rather than passing the buck the way they did the last time.

Franken = Counting all valid votes
Colemen = Counting only votes that are favorable to Coleman

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 12/30/2008
- BCubedReg I'm a Fan of BCubedReg 6 fans permalink

Bravo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 12/30/2008

At least Al has conducted himself with dignity throughout the reount process.

Buh bye, Nuhmie!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 12/30/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

Of course he has. Franken has dignity, unlike any Republican I could name.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 12/30/2008
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 109 fans permalink
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I can still name a few, but NONE of them are in Washington­......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 12/30/2008
- Donnat I'm a Fan of Donnat 22 fans permalink

Yes! Go Al! You will be a true champion of the people. Coleman is headed for Prison anyway, as are half (or more) of the GOP (they should be anyway, starting with Bush)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 12/30/2008

At the rate this is going, the "recount" will be the 2010 elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 12/30/2008
- Swatantra I'm a Fan of Swatantra 21 fans permalink

I wish people would take voting more seriously.

A lot of questions could be resolved to everyone's satisfaction if voters would just
quit scribbling on the ballots and follow the directions.
Election judges will verbally explain it to you if you can't read.
There are big pictures that demonstrate how to darken the oval.

It's kinda too bad that imbecils are allowed to vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 12/30/2008
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Well, we can't stop Republicans from voting, can we?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 12/30/2008
- Lavafalls I'm a Fan of Lavafalls 243 fans permalink
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maybe we should look into whether the voters are unAmerican or not. I mean why should you be allowed to vote if you are unAmerican?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 12/30/2008
- BronxBorn I'm a Fan of BronxBorn 50 fans permalink
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i like carrots too

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 12/30/2008
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So you're suggesting a test?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 12/30/2008
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No, it is suggesting that people who are disabled and/or too old and shaky to fill in the oval properly should not be allowed to vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 12/30/2008
- Buddy McCue I'm a Fan of Buddy McCue 136 fans permalink
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If you're going to call people imbeciles, you could at least spell the word correctly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 12/30/2008
- indypete I'm a Fan of indypete 148 fans permalink
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Seat him in the "takes one to know one" section? (I think there's a seat available next to mine!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 12/30/2008

Libbies are inbeciles no matter how you spell it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 12/30/2008
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And what does this have to do with the issue at hand. The current issue is that officials WRONGFULLY REJECTED over 1,300 absentee ballots. In order for an absentee ballot to be rejected, it has to meet one of four criteria. These votes did not meet any of the four criteria, therefore they are valid votes and should be counted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 12/30/2008

Al is the man! GO AL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 12/30/2008
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So long, Coleman, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 12/30/2008
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Slight correction -- let the door slam on his sorry a$$.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 12/30/2008
- 4real I'm a Fan of 4real 29 fans permalink
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Looks like Nate is going to correct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 12/30/2008
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I know. Isn't it amazing. The man is positively scary how right he has been.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 12/30/2008
- ilcapo I'm a Fan of ilcapo 4 fans permalink

Nate is a nerd among nerds,and I mean that with all due respect,he's da man!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 12/30/2008
- TLV I'm a Fan of TLV 118 fans permalink

There is not enough Tums to withstand this gut-wrenching period in Franken's life. I hope he's holding up o.k.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 12/30/2008
- sonofdy1 I'm a Fan of sonofdy1 3 fans permalink

I guess he "found" enough votes eh? Congrats. You now have a senator whoes sole acheivements are a failed radio station, voter fraud, and bad jokes.

yay you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 12/30/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

"You know, you have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what went on that it's almost embarrassing to listen to you."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 12/30/2008
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The recount has been done by state officials, nimrod.

And it's Coleman who is trying to gum up the works---Franken has said that every single vote should be counted from the very beginning.

You remain astonishingly pleased with yourself for being utterly clueless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 12/30/2008
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Try reading one of his books. In fact Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot is a masterpiece of comedy that will leave your sides splitting.

But I guess you would NEVER actually want to come to grips with facts and truths now would you Mr. Conservative Talking Point

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 12/30/2008
- BronxBorn I'm a Fan of BronxBorn 50 fans permalink
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And your acheivement is an allowwed spot on Malkins blog, because you pass the "purity test".
BTW, why won't she open her blog like Huffpo ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 12/30/2008
- Buddy McCue I'm a Fan of Buddy McCue 136 fans permalink
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He wrote some entertaining books. I just re-read "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them." Good stuff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 12/30/2008
- LeftRight I'm a Fan of LeftRight 109 fans permalink
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That one was pretty good, but I preferred The Truth (with jokes)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 12/30/2008
- kingmiller I'm a Fan of kingmiller 7 fans permalink

My God?! till going on? Minnesota: "Quite a bit crazier than you think!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 12/30/2008
- BalletMom I'm a Fan of BalletMom 37 fans permalink
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Wrong.

Minnesota: Democracy in Action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 12/30/2008

your ignorance is showing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 12/30/2008
- IowaKid I'm a Fan of IowaKid 18 fans permalink
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Alright go Al.... Democracy at its best....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 12/30/2008
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