Oregon Looks At Taxing Mileage Instead Of Gasoline

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RYAN KOST | January 2, 2009 09:27 PM EST | AP

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Jim Wierson of Clackamas, talks about the idea of a mileage tax as he stands next to his pick-up in Portland, Ore., Wednesday, Dec. 31, 2008. Facing the possibility of lower tax revenue from gasoline sales, the state is considering a tax not on the number of gallons purchased, but on the number of miles driven. (AP Photo/Greg Wahl-Stephens)

PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon is among a growing number of states exploring ways to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive instead of how much gas they use, even going so far as to install GPS monitoring devices in 300 vehicles. The idea first emerged nearly 10 years ago as Oregon lawmakers worried that fuel-efficient cars such as gas-electric hybrids could pose a threat to road upkeep, which is paid for largely with gasoline taxes.

"I'm glad we're taking a look at it before the potholes get so big that we can't even get out of them," said Leroy Younglove, a Portland driver who participated in a recent pilot program.

The proposal is not without critics, including drivers who are concerned about privacy and others who fear the tax could eliminate the financial incentive for buying efficient vehicles.

But Oregon is ahead of the nation in exploring the concept, even though it will probably be years before any mileage tax is adopted.

Congress is talking about it, too. A congressional commission has envisioned a system similar to the prototype Oregon tested in 2006-2007.

The National Commission on Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing is considering calling for higher gas taxes to keep highways, bridges and transit programs in good shape.

But over the long term, commission members say, the nation should consider taxing mileage rather than gasoline as drivers use more fuel-efficient and electric vehicles.

As cars burn less fuel, "the gas tax isn't going to fill the bill," said Rep. Peter DeFazio of Oregon, a member of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.

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The next Congress "could begin to set the stage, perhaps looking at some much more robust pilot programs, to begin the research, to work with manufacturers."

Gov. Ted Kulongoski has included development money for the tax in his budget proposal, and interest is growing in a number of other states.

Governors in Idaho and Rhode Island have considered systems that would require drivers to report their mileage when they register vehicles.

In North Carolina last month, a panel suggested charging motorists a quarter-cent for every mile as a substitute for the gas tax.

James Whitty, the Oregon Department of Transportation employee in charge of the state's effort, said he's also heard talk of mileage tax proposals in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Colorado and Minnesota.

"There is kind of a coalition that's naturally forming around this," he said.

Also fueling the search for alternatives is the political difficulty of raising gasoline taxes.

The federal gas tax has not been raised since 1993, and nearly two dozen states have not changed their taxes since 1997, according to the American Road & Transportation Builders Association.

In Oregon's pilot program, officials equipped 300 vehicles with GPS transponders that worked wirelessly with service station pumps, allowing drivers to pay their mileage tax just as they do their gas tax.

Whitty said the test, which involved two gas stations in the Portland area, proved the idea could work.

Though the GPS devices did not track the cars' locations in great detail, they could determine when a driver had left certain zones, such as the state of Oregon. They also kept track of the time the driving was done, so a premium could be charged for rush-hour mileage.

The proposal envisions a gradual change, with manufacturers installing the technology in new vehicles because retrofitting old cars would be too expensive. Owners of older vehicles would continue to pay gasoline taxes.

The difference in tax based on mileage or on gasoline would be small _ "pennies per transaction at the pump," Whitty said.

But the mileage tax still faces several major obstacles.

For one, Oregon accounts for only a small part of auto sales, so the state can't go it alone. A multistate or national system would be needed.

Another concern is that such devices could threaten privacy. Whitty said he and his task force have assured people that the program does not track detailed movement and that driving history is not stored and cannot be accessed by law enforcement agencies.

"I think most people will come to realize there is really no tracking issue and will continue to buy new cars," Whitty said, noting that many cell phones now come equipped with GPS, which has not deterred customers.

Others are worried that a mileage tax would undermine years of incentives to switch toward more fuel-efficient vehicles.

"It doesn't seem fair," said Paul Niedergang of Portland, that a hybrid would be taxed as much as his Dodge pickup. "I just think the gas tax needs to be updated."

Lynda Williams, also of Portland, was not immediately sold on the idea but said it was worth consideration.

"We all have to be open-minded," she said. "Our current system just isn't working."

PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon is among a growing number of states exploring ways to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive instead of how much gas they use, even going so far as to instal...
PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon is among a growing number of states exploring ways to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive instead of how much gas they use, even going so far as to instal...
 
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The suburbs are quickly becoming the new slums as the poorest people are pushed away from the now trendy urban cores. The most expensive real estate is the urban centers and the poorest cannot live there but must commute. So we are seeing a redistribution of wealth again to the wealthiest people, and subsequently an increase in poverty. These are regressive times in which we live.
BTW, why is oil so cheap when they told us the price run-up was due to China and India using more gasoline? Their economies are stilling growing annually and their oil consumption has not declined. Guess we were lied to about that too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 AM on 01/05/2009

And the "re-distributive" plans Obama had to raise progressive taxes on the super rich? What happened to that idea?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 AM on 01/05/2009
- LauraD I'm a Fan of LauraD 57 fans permalink

Those would be federal-level taxes, this article is referring to state-level taxes, as states are the ones responsible for maintaining their highway systems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 01/05/2009
- onenation I'm a Fan of onenation 6 fans permalink

Consider the realities. The older, less efficient cars are poor and limited option people. So lets not stick it to the single parent with two junior high kids who's spouse died. They don't have a great amount of choice about auto model.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 AM on 01/05/2009
- onenation I'm a Fan of onenation 6 fans permalink

The proposal to tax on millage is "stunningly superficial".
Big, gas user heavy car vs small easy on the road and easy on gas car will be taxed the same. Why does that make sense??
What is the real question? It is - How do we get enough revenue to maintain and build roads and bridges.
Are we looking for cause & effect? or Who to stick. Or some perfect match with the road actually used? You don't need GPS sending devices. Tech is not better. It produces a situation in which people are no longer secure in their person and papers. And cause a bunch of defeat tech to be purchased. So... how does this get enforced?
I agree that the GPS proposal is really an excuse to track. Don't forget that the federal anti terror law was used to ';track" those Texas legislators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 AM on 01/05/2009

This doesn't make ANY sense. If Prius were medium cars and Civics were big cars, they would need half the road maintenance, maybe one tenth in great climates.

If they want to tax based on what CAUSES the roads to need repair, tax 18-wheel and other very large trucks. They ship the goods, no sales tax on goods, tax a Focus driver like a Suburban driver. Huh? Why don't we just tax $100 for oil changes, that'll solve it, surely people will get them as often and provide appropriate revenue. /snark

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 01/05/2009
- Exfl I'm a Fan of Exfl 8 fans permalink

Why not just tax tires? A set of tires wears out about every 40K miles. Cars will use up tires no matter what their power source or efficiency. A tax of $25 per tire would generate exactly the same revenue as a tax of $.0025 per mile and both the privacy issues and the overhead costs of GPS would disappear. Or does somebody in state government own stock in a GPS company?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 01/04/2009

Why not return to progressive taxation as Roosevelt did? Why tax the commuting working poor? Some 90% of the wealth of America is now held in some 5% of American households. Is that fair?
The oil companies just ripped off America for hundreds of BILLIONS and no one it seems is talking about TAXING them! Why would ANYONE even considerraising taxes on the working class, the commuting poor the people hurting most from the Second Great Depression?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 AM on 01/05/2009
- Yves Papa I'm a Fan of Yves Papa 14 fans permalink

That's not about taxing, but about the government collecting data about its citizen's movements.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 01/04/2009
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This is really a stupid idea. A gas tax already taxes mileage driven... more miles equals more gas. And, the gas tax has the added advantage of taxing inefficient vehicles at a higher rate.

All the Oregon plan does is track citizens movements, a real civil rights no-no.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 01/04/2009

Pride prevents the great state of Oregon from solving many of it's fiscal problems. Oregon is one of five states that does not have a sales tax which forces our lawmakers into these "creative" tax measures. Chances are a sales tax will never be instituted so here's a simpler, less intrusive suggestion on how to tax mileage. Every vehicle registered in Oregon must pass an emissions test so why not just collect mileage data at the DEQ stations? As for states that do not test emissions they could log mileage at inspection stations. Admittedly this is not a perfect solution but at least it prevents Big Brother from further eroding our right to privacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 01/04/2009

Adding GPS traffic monitoring is about as dumb as adding the technological capability for a vehicle to park itself. Traffic flow studies are really just junk science. Planning departments and city councils use or rebuff the results to whitewash the environmental impact report to promote development.
Fact of matter is we have more cars than the roads were designed to handle. Development outside of urban areas has continued to outpace the actual traffic flows and the result is grid lock, wasted fuel and air pollution.

President elect Obama wants to add infrastructure repairs and improvements to our roads, bridges ,etc.
He also wants more fuel efficient vehicles. The main problem is we current have technologically improved the fuel consumption of vehicles by building highly evolved four cylinder engines and removing most of the vehicle's structural weight. What we have now is a race car.
Driving 80 miles per hour on a road that was designed for 65 mph is cause of grid lock, wasted fuel and air pollution.

We don't need GPS devices. What we do need is traffic management system designed into the vehicle with the corresponding controller built into the roadbed. Control of this system could either be fixed or controlled from a remote location. Result, create thousands of jobs, achieve the fuel economy that the vehicle was designed for and improve traffic safety.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 01/04/2009
- Donnat I'm a Fan of Donnat 23 fans permalink

More mass transit

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 01/04/2009
- SeanONe I'm a Fan of SeanONe 2 fans permalink
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Paying a gas tax means the consumer subsidises the truckers. The weight per axle is key to a proper assessment so the mileage tax should be based on mileage and weight. Then a high mileage lightweight car would still pay less per mile than a huge fully laden truck. Also if the trucker has to drive without a load he doesn't get taxed as much.

Those who think they don't already live in a surveillance society should really look into that numberplate on the front and back of your vehicle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 01/04/2009
- RayPacNW I'm a Fan of RayPacNW 4 fans permalink

No. Just - simply - no.

Please note that I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor do I play one on TV. But I will not live in a surveillance society. We've already got enough cameras and tracking devices. Next thing you know, we'll be like Britain, and every public moment of our lives will be recorded for the authorities to abuse at will. No flippin' way they put one of these things in my car, period. And I can only hope that enough people feel the same way, so this issue becomes a non-starter.

Since the advent of the automobile, the "state", and the insurance companies (that's next) have done just fine without tracking my movements. They can continue to do just fine without violating my privacy now. In case I wasn't clear:

NO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 01/04/2009
- mcostello I'm a Fan of mcostello 9 fans permalink

There is not enough money to track every vehicle in the country. But if you feel strongly about not getting surveilled, as I do, we should do something about all the government cameras.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 01/04/2009
- Yves Papa I'm a Fan of Yves Papa 14 fans permalink

Say
one average car trip (e.g go from to the store) requires 1 KB for Car ID, time, way points.
average of 5 car trips per day
Each car generates an average of 5KB of data per day.

If there are 200 million cars in the USA:

200 M * 365 days/year * 5 KB = 385 terabytes of data generated by year.

You can get a 1 TB HDD (one terabyte hard disk drive) for about $300 retail.

So it costs about $100K to store all the USA car movements for 1 year.

A basic computer with a standard database program is perfectly capable of mining that data.

That's cheap. They'll make the car makers add the GPS chip and it's real cost (less tan $10) is folded into the car price. It's collected by bluetooth at the pump and sent to the government computer. Along with the gas tax that they will charge anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 01/04/2009
- fiorastar I'm a Fan of fiorastar 64 fans permalink
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I live in Oregon. This is the wrong solution to a real problem. There have been calculations done that show that the proposed mileage tax combined with the proposed gas tax rebate for the amount of fuel purchased (which is supposed to offset the effect of being taxed twice) works out to a tax "gift" to those who drive vehicles that get under 20 mpg.

One of the long standing problems in our state that has led to the destruction of our roads is that Oregon is a "drive through" state for trucking--which does more damage to roads than passenger vehicles. Trucks must be made to pay a tax--while driving through Oregon--that fairly compensates for the relative impact on the roads.

Another common issue in the western cities of the state is that many who live in the temperate cities of the Willamette Valley drive back and forth over the Cascade Mountains for skiing or other reasons and keep studded tires on their vehicles all winter. Studded tire installation, therefore should be taxed more in order to help pay for the damage they cause on unfrozen streets.

Finally, it may be time to look at a different paradigm for transportation that puts less strain on roads and highways and begins to divert more to rail and bicycle, as well as light weight, alternative fuel vehicles that do less road damage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 01/04/2009

Both gasoline and mileage should be taxed. Actually, not just gasoline, but any combustible fuel should be taxed. An equitable formula would change over time to provide revenue for road maintenance and to keep the tax on gasoline going up to encourage "good behavior".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 01/04/2009
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 74 fans permalink

"Another concern is that such devices could threaten privacy. Whitty said he and his task force have assured people that the program does not track detailed movement and that driving history is not stored and cannot be accessed by law enforcement agencies."
For now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 01/04/2009
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