Oregon Looks At Taxing Mileage Instead Of Gasoline

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RYAN KOST | January 2, 2009 09:27 PM EST | AP

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Jim Wierson of Clackamas, talks about the idea of a mileage tax as he stands next to his pick-up in Portland, Ore., Wednesday, Dec. 31, 2008. Facing the possibility of lower tax revenue from gasoline sales, the state is considering a tax not on the number of gallons purchased, but on the number of miles driven. (AP Photo/Greg Wahl-Stephens)

PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon is among a growing number of states exploring ways to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive instead of how much gas they use, even going so far as to install GPS monitoring devices in 300 vehicles. The idea first emerged nearly 10 years ago as Oregon lawmakers worried that fuel-efficient cars such as gas-electric hybrids could pose a threat to road upkeep, which is paid for largely with gasoline taxes.

"I'm glad we're taking a look at it before the potholes get so big that we can't even get out of them," said Leroy Younglove, a Portland driver who participated in a recent pilot program.

The proposal is not without critics, including drivers who are concerned about privacy and others who fear the tax could eliminate the financial incentive for buying efficient vehicles.

But Oregon is ahead of the nation in exploring the concept, even though it will probably be years before any mileage tax is adopted.

Congress is talking about it, too. A congressional commission has envisioned a system similar to the prototype Oregon tested in 2006-2007.

The National Commission on Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing is considering calling for higher gas taxes to keep highways, bridges and transit programs in good shape.

But over the long term, commission members say, the nation should consider taxing mileage rather than gasoline as drivers use more fuel-efficient and electric vehicles.

As cars burn less fuel, "the gas tax isn't going to fill the bill," said Rep. Peter DeFazio of Oregon, a member of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.

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The next Congress "could begin to set the stage, perhaps looking at some much more robust pilot programs, to begin the research, to work with manufacturers."

Gov. Ted Kulongoski has included development money for the tax in his budget proposal, and interest is growing in a number of other states.

Governors in Idaho and Rhode Island have considered systems that would require drivers to report their mileage when they register vehicles.

In North Carolina last month, a panel suggested charging motorists a quarter-cent for every mile as a substitute for the gas tax.

James Whitty, the Oregon Department of Transportation employee in charge of the state's effort, said he's also heard talk of mileage tax proposals in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Colorado and Minnesota.

"There is kind of a coalition that's naturally forming around this," he said.

Also fueling the search for alternatives is the political difficulty of raising gasoline taxes.

The federal gas tax has not been raised since 1993, and nearly two dozen states have not changed their taxes since 1997, according to the American Road & Transportation Builders Association.

In Oregon's pilot program, officials equipped 300 vehicles with GPS transponders that worked wirelessly with service station pumps, allowing drivers to pay their mileage tax just as they do their gas tax.

Whitty said the test, which involved two gas stations in the Portland area, proved the idea could work.

Though the GPS devices did not track the cars' locations in great detail, they could determine when a driver had left certain zones, such as the state of Oregon. They also kept track of the time the driving was done, so a premium could be charged for rush-hour mileage.

The proposal envisions a gradual change, with manufacturers installing the technology in new vehicles because retrofitting old cars would be too expensive. Owners of older vehicles would continue to pay gasoline taxes.

The difference in tax based on mileage or on gasoline would be small _ "pennies per transaction at the pump," Whitty said.

But the mileage tax still faces several major obstacles.

For one, Oregon accounts for only a small part of auto sales, so the state can't go it alone. A multistate or national system would be needed.

Another concern is that such devices could threaten privacy. Whitty said he and his task force have assured people that the program does not track detailed movement and that driving history is not stored and cannot be accessed by law enforcement agencies.

"I think most people will come to realize there is really no tracking issue and will continue to buy new cars," Whitty said, noting that many cell phones now come equipped with GPS, which has not deterred customers.

Others are worried that a mileage tax would undermine years of incentives to switch toward more fuel-efficient vehicles.

"It doesn't seem fair," said Paul Niedergang of Portland, that a hybrid would be taxed as much as his Dodge pickup. "I just think the gas tax needs to be updated."

Lynda Williams, also of Portland, was not immediately sold on the idea but said it was worth consideration.

"We all have to be open-minded," she said. "Our current system just isn't working."

PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon is among a growing number of states exploring ways to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive instead of how much gas they use, even going so far as to instal...
PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon is among a growing number of states exploring ways to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive instead of how much gas they use, even going so far as to instal...
 
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So let's see. If I ride a motorcycle or scooter and drive the same distance as the fool next to me in a Hummer, I will pay the same in taxes? This should just be thrown out right from the start. When property values decline in your town and the town expenses remain the same, the mill rate goes up until the budget is met. Just raise the gas tax until it covers the costs. Then the guy in the hummer will be contributing so much toward, hopefully mass transit and research toward reducing emissions, that I will smile and wave to him as he passes me on my scooter. Thanks for subsidizing my monthly commuter pass, friend! When you get tired of paying so much to drive around in your gas guzzler, I'll see you on the train. We might even have room for another player in our card game. And you might make some new friends. What a thought!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 01/04/2009
- 0emissions I'm a Fan of 0emissions 3 fans permalink
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Yes! Yes!YES! We need to tax driving. We pay too much for drivers and driving.
The stink and noise are exhausting. Stress ,crime, police surveillance, selfish acts of driSving are killing us and sucking up our public purse.SMOG, baby, SMOG.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 01/04/2009
- ryancammer I'm a Fan of ryancammer 4 fans permalink
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i want to know which politicians support this, so they can be targeted and voted out of office. this is extreme stupidity at its finest. it is an enormous disincentive to purchase fuel efficient vehicles, raises big brother concerns, and paves the way for a whole new black market on tampered odometers.

if oregon wants more tax revenue, then increase taxes. if buyers drive an inordinate amount of miles, they they'll have an incentive to buy a fuel efficient vehicle. if they can't afford one, then they'll drive less.

i personally will fight in any way i can to break any such law, and encourage others to do so as well.

remember, we don't work for the government; the government works for us. accordingly, if the government isn't afraid of the people, then the people aren't doing their job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 01/04/2009
- mcostello I'm a Fan of mcostello 9 fans permalink

This is silly. It reverses the motivation for fuel efficiency. One real motivator towards using less fuel is to add a yearly surtax to 8 cylinder engines.
I have always driven 4 cylinder cars and found them to be adequate.
If someone wants to drive a large vehicle with great "pick-up" they should pay much more for the luxury. And I shouldn't have to pay $4.50 a gallon because of the demand generated by people who make their decisions based not on their needs, but on image and profligacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 01/04/2009
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We don't need more taxes on driving.

What we DO need is for Americans to realize that the Military is a HUGE subsidy to the energy companies.

When enough of you other taxpayers realize that our government (borrows and prints) HUNDREDS of billions of dollars to give to the MIC as PROTECTION MONEY (a racket, like the Mafia), you'll start to demand a sane Defense Department AND private corporations that truly operate in a free market, without the Welfare gift of our soldiers and sailors acting as their security guards.

The price of gas will go UP, just as many of you desire, but it will be offset by shrinking our government's WASTE of counless billions on Military Empire all over the globe.

More taxes and bigger government are NOT the solution, whether advocated by Democrats OR Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 01/04/2009

Well, well. My fellow Oregonians actually want a new tax? Gee, what about SALES TAX? If we had such a tax, we wouldn't need to resort to such drastic measures as taxing MILEAGE. Good grief. Why not use the money we already have for the road repairs? I think some of the leaders of the state can do without their luxuries for a couple of years so that our state can be improved; or is that asking too much?

The main reason people buy fuel-efficient cars is not only to help the environment, but to save money by not having to buy as much gas. The sick irony is almost palpable... if this does become a reality, there won't be any incentive, besides being less of a burden on Mother Earth, to purchase fuel-efficient / hybrid vehicles.

I realize other states may be thinking about taking this idiotic measure, but for Oregon to do something like tax you on your mileage is beyond comprehension to me. One more reason to move to Washington State...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 01/04/2009
- Gasparilla I'm a Fan of Gasparilla 32 fans permalink

Raise the tax per gallon. If you have a fuel efficient car, you still save. If you have a gas hog, you pay more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 01/04/2009
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A tax of people moving from point A to point B. What if I were traveling to Vacouver, WA and back? Wouldn't that be a violation of the Interstate Commerce clause in the US Constitution?

Zones. State monitoring devices on citizens private property. Restrictions on personal mobility. NO!. This is America, not Nazi Germany

Big Oil is just as guilty of causing cancer and all its social ills as is Big Tobacco. Oregon - you need more money? Tax Big Oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 01/03/2009
- HMDMSR I'm a Fan of HMDMSR 53 fans permalink
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Still, GPS could be useful by providing a lot of data on traffic flow. Taxing miles is the right approach. I agree with the previous comments which pointed out we can already tax miles at the pump.
We have to find a way to keep people close to where they work. This is more an issue about managing natural resources than on about heady economic theories. Levels of taxation are affected by economics, but masses of resources are not. We already live like rats, why not add one more feature to the cage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 01/03/2009
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Because we don't want to live with Big Brother. I could write a book for you here.

We need to deconstruct the cage; not add more food cups.

Idealy, i guess we could move the courthouses out to the suburbs
Or we could have corporate housing next to lagre corps; you know like dorms

Or we could provide housing for nurses and doctors like servants

Or we could just remain free Americans

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 01/03/2009
- HMDMSR I'm a Fan of HMDMSR 53 fans permalink
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Why should suburbs be built half way betweens cities A and B when development could be made immediately around the two cities? How does it increase personal freedom to be able to live 60 miles from work? This is an issue of efficient resource utilization.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 01/03/2009
- Tom95134 I'm a Fan of Tom95134 55 fans permalink
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Why would anyone consider the use of GPS. First of all the amount of computer power needed to continuously process all the location data would be unrealistic. Second, I'm not comfortable with the government knowing where my car is or has been. It's bad enough that they know when I drive over one of the bridges that uses FastTrack.

It's much simpler and probably cheaper to implement a short range, e.g., Blue Tooth, device coupled to your odometer that would report the number of miles driven since the previous reading. This data would be read by the computer that prices gasoline when you refuel your car. The revised tax rate would be applied at the time you put gas in the car. This also avoids the issue of having Big Brother tracking where I've been.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 AM on 01/04/2009
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What is really sad is that the Coulter / Obama article has 4 times the comments.

Which I added to, I admit. But this affects everyone of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 01/03/2009
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Tax according to weight. The heavier the vehicle the more damage they do to the roads. No GPS's needed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 01/03/2009
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We already do; that is why this is a non-issure

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 01/03/2009
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Only for trucks though. Tax everyone on weight per axle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 01/04/2009

Yes .....by all means we have to get ahead of the curve
and make darn sure no one gets rewarded by getting away from burning fossil fuels!!

Perhaps a by-the-lungful tax on fresh air should be considered as well

The environment is all well and good but we MUST GET OUR CUT!

tm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 01/03/2009
- bud812 I'm a Fan of bud812 9 fans permalink
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Thats it im now officially a Canadian omg they will tax everything by the time we die ummm and then tax our deaths!How about they cut some spending this time instead of creating new taxes that will keep us all at the house instead of out shopping or vacationing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 01/03/2009

Didn't you get the memo? Canada doesn't want us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 01/04/2009
- sueinmn I'm a Fan of sueinmn 101 fans permalink
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This really sucks! Those of us that must commute for a decent paying job get hit the hardest! seems like they are being unfair as it should be taxed by the gallon for all! Keep this out of minnesote please!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 01/03/2009
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 433 fans permalink
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With T Paw at the helm, we are pretty well in line for this. Write your representative and tell him/her you don't want this. I plan to. My rep is Paymar--and HE is very active in transportation!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 01/04/2009
- Earl I'm a Fan of Earl 108 fans permalink
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This is precisely why I do not have an automatic toll-paying transponder ("SmartTag") in my car. If we let the govt get these in enough cars, soon they will become mandatory, and all roads will become tolls. Fuel will still be taxed, and then they will also be able to track your movements and pester you with ever more petty violations such as automatic parking tickets. Send your SmartTags back to the govt and do like I do...pay with pennies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 01/03/2009

In the state of Illinois you pay TWICE as much at the toll "without" a transponder. You need a paid permit to have a picnic or play tennis in some public parks. You must pay for a pet "license", with a limit of two pets of course. A new city "sticker" on your car's windshield every year in any town. Renew your license plates every year. Pay a permit fee to put up a fence on "your" property. Pay ALL your representative's pensions and benefits, from your city clerk to our US Senators. Water usage fee, garbage disposal, sewer usage, phone tax, gas tax, cigarette tax, soda tax, bottled water tax,.... Out of many, one; that is our country's motto. Democracy?, oligarchy?, socialist?; call it what you will, it won't change a thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 01/05/2009
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