Oregon Looks At Taxing Mileage Instead Of Gasoline

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RYAN KOST | January 2, 2009 09:27 PM EST | AP

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Jim Wierson of Clackamas, talks about the idea of a mileage tax as he stands next to his pick-up in Portland, Ore., Wednesday, Dec. 31, 2008. Facing the possibility of lower tax revenue from gasoline sales, the state is considering a tax not on the number of gallons purchased, but on the number of miles driven. (AP Photo/Greg Wahl-Stephens)

PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon is among a growing number of states exploring ways to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive instead of how much gas they use, even going so far as to install GPS monitoring devices in 300 vehicles. The idea first emerged nearly 10 years ago as Oregon lawmakers worried that fuel-efficient cars such as gas-electric hybrids could pose a threat to road upkeep, which is paid for largely with gasoline taxes.

"I'm glad we're taking a look at it before the potholes get so big that we can't even get out of them," said Leroy Younglove, a Portland driver who participated in a recent pilot program.

The proposal is not without critics, including drivers who are concerned about privacy and others who fear the tax could eliminate the financial incentive for buying efficient vehicles.

But Oregon is ahead of the nation in exploring the concept, even though it will probably be years before any mileage tax is adopted.

Congress is talking about it, too. A congressional commission has envisioned a system similar to the prototype Oregon tested in 2006-2007.

The National Commission on Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing is considering calling for higher gas taxes to keep highways, bridges and transit programs in good shape.

But over the long term, commission members say, the nation should consider taxing mileage rather than gasoline as drivers use more fuel-efficient and electric vehicles.

As cars burn less fuel, "the gas tax isn't going to fill the bill," said Rep. Peter DeFazio of Oregon, a member of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.

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The next Congress "could begin to set the stage, perhaps looking at some much more robust pilot programs, to begin the research, to work with manufacturers."

Gov. Ted Kulongoski has included development money for the tax in his budget proposal, and interest is growing in a number of other states.

Governors in Idaho and Rhode Island have considered systems that would require drivers to report their mileage when they register vehicles.

In North Carolina last month, a panel suggested charging motorists a quarter-cent for every mile as a substitute for the gas tax.

James Whitty, the Oregon Department of Transportation employee in charge of the state's effort, said he's also heard talk of mileage tax proposals in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Colorado and Minnesota.

"There is kind of a coalition that's naturally forming around this," he said.

Also fueling the search for alternatives is the political difficulty of raising gasoline taxes.

The federal gas tax has not been raised since 1993, and nearly two dozen states have not changed their taxes since 1997, according to the American Road & Transportation Builders Association.

In Oregon's pilot program, officials equipped 300 vehicles with GPS transponders that worked wirelessly with service station pumps, allowing drivers to pay their mileage tax just as they do their gas tax.

Whitty said the test, which involved two gas stations in the Portland area, proved the idea could work.

Though the GPS devices did not track the cars' locations in great detail, they could determine when a driver had left certain zones, such as the state of Oregon. They also kept track of the time the driving was done, so a premium could be charged for rush-hour mileage.

The proposal envisions a gradual change, with manufacturers installing the technology in new vehicles because retrofitting old cars would be too expensive. Owners of older vehicles would continue to pay gasoline taxes.

The difference in tax based on mileage or on gasoline would be small _ "pennies per transaction at the pump," Whitty said.

But the mileage tax still faces several major obstacles.

For one, Oregon accounts for only a small part of auto sales, so the state can't go it alone. A multistate or national system would be needed.

Another concern is that such devices could threaten privacy. Whitty said he and his task force have assured people that the program does not track detailed movement and that driving history is not stored and cannot be accessed by law enforcement agencies.

"I think most people will come to realize there is really no tracking issue and will continue to buy new cars," Whitty said, noting that many cell phones now come equipped with GPS, which has not deterred customers.

Others are worried that a mileage tax would undermine years of incentives to switch toward more fuel-efficient vehicles.

"It doesn't seem fair," said Paul Niedergang of Portland, that a hybrid would be taxed as much as his Dodge pickup. "I just think the gas tax needs to be updated."

Lynda Williams, also of Portland, was not immediately sold on the idea but said it was worth consideration.

"We all have to be open-minded," she said. "Our current system just isn't working."

PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon is among a growing number of states exploring ways to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive instead of how much gas they use, even going so far as to instal...
PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon is among a growing number of states exploring ways to tax drivers based on the number of miles they drive instead of how much gas they use, even going so far as to instal...
 
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This is BS, how convenient for them to blame drivers for road upkeep instead of building or transforming highways into railways. These politicians are pretty arrogant to suggest penalizing the same citizens they are neglecting!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 01/03/2009
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I cut my driving miles a couple years ago when gas went over $3/gallon and last summer absolutely slashed mileage when gas went over $4. The vast majority of my mileage was to sell my produce at the local farmers market (40 mile round trip). No way I could afford to do that last summer when customers refused to pay prices higher than in 2000. Customers now come to the farm. (all the roads here are already crap.)
Hubby doesn't have that luxury. He's a power lineman -- one of those guys who get the power back on after an ice storm (like recently in Ft. Wayne) or a windstorm (like even more recently in Detroit) or a hurricane (like Hurricane Ike). He can be away from home days-weeks at a time, but has to initially commute 100 miles each way to get to the "home" staging area, where he works at least five days a week (away from home the entire time in a separate residence) doing line maintenance absent disaster somewhere else.
Mileage tax is all well and good as an idea to float, but I would hope there would be some common sense involved for people who don't have the luxury or opportunity to live closer to work. Personally, I'd love to see regular commuter train service start up again to serve rural communities. Our local train station was shut down a few decades ago, but Amtrak still comes flying through without stopping.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 01/03/2009
- tazmodious I'm a Fan of tazmodious 4 fans permalink

I will never buy a car that has a GPS system. There are plenty of old cars out there to last my lifetime. Currently I own a 1995 Subaru sedan that has plenty of life left.

My next car will be an old pick-up in which I will partially or completely replace the gasoline engine with an electric motor.

Don't buy new, recycle!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 01/03/2009
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I'm with you!
I've got all the parts for a 1932 Ford Model B pickup, except the original running gear. We're going to put a hydrogen generator in it (my brother-in-law in Texas has already done that with his truck).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 01/03/2009
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How will that help keep you from being taxed for mileage??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 01/03/2009
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I don't think you guys understand; vehicles will be retrofited with GPS; don't doubt it . The "plan" would not work any other way. Remembertair conditioning and catalytic converters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 01/03/2009
- HMDMSR I'm a Fan of HMDMSR 46 fans permalink
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Maybe President Obama will give Americans the lecture they need to hear. Americans consume too much energy. Nature will force a lot of unpopular solutions on us. There is not an infinite supply of oil.
The US needs a modern energy plan. Americans, over the generations, have learned to use cars to the max--they can learn to use them to the min as well. Tax at the federal level. Redistribute down to the local level. Forget Joe the Plumber. Down with State's Rights. See your individuality not through your clothes or toys, but through your thoughts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 01/03/2009
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So the government wants to put an electronic monitoring device on our vehicles? A GPS device that tells BIG BROTHER where you are at all times - I'm sure Hitler wishes he could've been born in this day and time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 01/03/2009
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 166 fans permalink
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Know what this really boils down to? The refusal of governments at every level to cut their excessive spending habits. So instead of cutting out needless spending, they would rather excessively tax us to make up for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 01/03/2009
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Exactly!!! If you don't have the money, spend less. The sense of entitlement in this country is ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 01/03/2009

The problem is that here in Oregon the gas tax pays goes specifically toward road improvements. So if the tax goes down then there is less money to maintain the roads. As the roads get worse it becomes more dangerous to drive on them.

It just so happens that my wife and I are lucky. We only have one vehicle and we are able to take the MAX to both of our jobs so we only drive about once a week.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 01/05/2009
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 173 fans permalink
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What a horrible idea! That anything like this is even floated shows how far Americans have strayed from the central idea of American experiment - Liberty. Taxing gasoline is fine because nobody sticks a device into your tanks that can keep track of where and when you travel. I know, I know, this is fine with many of you because you have nothing to hide. Wake up Merikans!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 01/03/2009
- Palemoon I'm a Fan of Palemoon 166 fans permalink
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I got some better ideas. Let's stop sending foreign aid to countries. Force them to get off of our welfare wagon. That way only our income tax would pay for everything across the board. We wouldn't need all these sales taxes or gas taxes or any other tax but income tax. That in itself would meet every need under the sun.

And then, cut out corruption in our government that squanders quite alot of our money as well, and we'd save enough to fund NASA's manned space exploration fleet of spaceships for the next 500 years.

And while I exaggerate, I am serious. The vast majority of our tax revenue is wasted on things like foreign aid and government corruption. Not to mention all the needless things. Look at all the billions we completely wasted on the B-1 bomber and we still don't have a replacement for the B-52!!

One last thing, I saw in a related article over how all of this has to do with people driving on our public roads. Duh, we paid for those roads and we pay to maintain them. Why can't we drive no them now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 01/03/2009

They could do a mileage tax without using a GPS device. The odometer reading could be recorded at the annual vehicle inspection and the owner could pay the tax based on that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 01/03/2009
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I don't live in a state that has vehicle inspection because they were a ripoff . There are alreday laws on the books for vehicle conditions. Lawmakers wised up and quit ripping off the public. with "vehicle inspections"
You are forgetting we already pay "per mile" when we buy fuel.

This is all about hybrid / electric not paying their share of road taxes.
Even though there are few of them and they little damage to the roads

So we are all going to be punished

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 01/03/2009
- seatech1 I'm a Fan of seatech1 6 fans permalink

So, now that we are all going to be more responsible and eco-friendly, the government wants to penalize us. Personally, I would not pay it. I would rip out any gps device from my car and would take all steps necessary to prevent the govt from knowing where I drove, or how much. That is my business, not theirs.
If they have to make up the tax some other way, I understand that. But to dip into our private lives with the intent on gathering more info about us is clearly unconstitutional. I say we should fight this from the start, and kick anyone out of office who supports it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 01/03/2009
- Giada I'm a Fan of Giada 19 fans permalink
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My sister lives in Oregon and drives 100 miles roundtrip to work in a hospital, (Cardiac telem and ICU). She was the first one in the family recycling, buying locally grown produce, close to vegan in lifesyle. Sad to think she might be caught in this tax trap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 01/03/2009

100 miles? This is senseless. The hospital should fire your sister and fine an equally qualified person who lives closer to the hospital. If you sister really wants the job she would move closer to work and reduce her carbon footprint.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 01/03/2009
- drock973 I'm a Fan of drock973 9 fans permalink

Do you really want to fire people because their long distance travel to work increases their carbon footprint?

I hope you were being sarcastic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 01/03/2009
- arizonabay I'm a Fan of arizonabay 15 fans permalink
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You must not be to familiar with how things work in rural areas. Cardiac and ICU staff are an incredible commodity. Not all small towns have enough housing and you need to live far out just to have some place to live.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 01/03/2009
- research I'm a Fan of research 257 fans permalink

Terrible Idea!

Where are all the Libertarian liberals in Oregon?

Tax trucks if you want to pay for roads. Trucks are responsible for some 90% of all road wear.

Or raise the top state marginal income.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 01/03/2009
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Yes, As I posted earlier; commercial vehicles should bear the brunt of road infrastructure building and repair

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 01/03/2009
- blytzd I'm a Fan of blytzd 4 fans permalink

The cost would only be passed on the consumers so everybody is going to pay for it in the end including those that don't drive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 01/03/2009
- dmthurman I'm a Fan of dmthurman 2 fans permalink

It appears that the biggest complaints have come from those who imagine that they deserve having all of those rural roads paid for by the majority who don't use them. Get over yourselves people, you sound like a bunch of welfare recipients whom suddenly have discovered your checks are being threatened. The current way we pay for our rural roads is communisti­c/socialis­tic and it only serves a group of people that find living in an urban more dense neighborhoods bothersome. Of course don't get me on the subsidization of power, and a whole host of other items that the rural folks have the majority of us City folk to thank for. Living in the country is not a right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 01/03/2009
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Our country was founded on the "pool of resources" for infrastructure. Next you won't want to pay for schools since you have no kids.

And most people live in rural areas because that is what they can afford

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 01/03/2009

On the first point you're right.

I'm not sure what the second point means though.

Most people of the portion of people that live ruraly may do so because that's all they can afford but the majority of the population, by a wide margin, actually live in urban areas. Rural America (and their ascribed values) being a majority and template for the rest of the country is a political construct that is not reflective of reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 01/03/2009
- condew I'm a Fan of condew 9 fans permalink

You sound like one of those people who don't own a car and think yourself virtuous; but only manage to survive because you sponge rides off your friends. Figure the odds I'll be willing to go 25+25=50 miles out of my way to take you home if I'm taxed by the mile.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 01/03/2009
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In addition; I guess you haven't eaten any food lately. Most of the rural highways and roads are there not so the woman in teh trailer house can get to twon; but they are there for "farm to market "roads. In fact, most states have those roads indentified and in some states; they are the only ones paved.
Our country's food supply depends on those roads; they benefit the city dweller MORE than the country dweller. Or you can grow your own food on your rooftop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 01/03/2009
- Skepticat I'm a Fan of Skepticat 60 fans permalink
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Perhaps if your city was totally cut off from those pesky ruralites for a year or two with nothing going in or out of your town you might eventually develop a more realistic world view of urban, sub-urban and rural co-dependancy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 01/03/2009
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soooo, as a rural person I should just keep my yap shut and be perfectly happy with my taxes paying for YOUR roads, while my roads are lucky to see a grader and maybe a very scant load of gravel once a year or two?
I haven't seen urban taxes do a single thing for me (and, NO, you do NOT subsidize my power or any "host of other items".
Enjoy you foreign-produced food.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 01/03/2009
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No.

No. No. No. No. No.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 01/03/2009
- htd2009 I'm a Fan of htd2009 3 fans permalink

Registrations should be taxed on a combination of four (4) criteria:

Engine displacement (size cc/litres)
Gross Weight (without passengers)
Fuel type
Milage

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 01/03/2009
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