Senate Democrats Planning Cool Reception For Burris

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LAURIE KELLMAN | January 2, 2009 09:27 PM EST | AP

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Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich stands by as his choice to fill President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. Senate seat, former Ill. Attorney General Roland Burris addresses the media Tuesday, Dec. 30, 2008, in Chicago. Through numerous TV interviews and behind-the-scenes lobbying, Burris is campaigning hard for the Senate. (AP Photo/M. Spencer Green)

WASHINGTON — Senate Democratic leaders plan to grant few if any privileges next week to Roland Burris, the man picked by Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich to represent the state in the Senate, even if Burris arrives on Capitol Hill with the proper credentials.

Senate officials involved in the tangle of legal and logistical planning said Friday that a Democrat will object to Burris being duly sworn with the rest of his class and will propose that his credentials be reviewed for a period of time by the Rules Committee.

That would give Burris the status of a senator-elect to the seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama in the juiciest of several dramas swirling around open Senate seats days before the 111th Congress convenes.

Senate Democrats are slow-walking Burris' appointment because they hope Blagojevich will be removed from office before the Rules Committee completes its investigation.

As early as next week Blagojevich _ federal authorities accuse him of offering to sell the appointment to the highest bidder _ could become the state's first chief executive to be impeached. A state Senate trial would follow and if he were convicted, Blagojevich would be removed from office.

For his part, Burris planned to argue his case in the news media and threatened to sue Senate Democrats if they refuse to swear him in as the chamber's only black member.

Race is a prominent force in the dispute. Rep. Donald Payne, D-N.J., said he called Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., and "made it abundantly clear that we felt that they should reconsider."

No luck, Payne reported on Friday.

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"I have heard no one say that they felt that he is not qualified," Payne said. Race would not be a factor, he added, were there black members of the Senate. "There is a legitimate opportunity to have the Senate at least start to look a teeny bit like America."

Democrats have said that their opposition to Burris is not about Burris but the fact that anyone appointed by Blagojevich would be tainted by the corruption charges against the governor.

And they're not budging, despite significant questions about whether they have the legal standing to block an appointee of a sitting governor.

The only way Burris will be allowed on the floor, according to Democratic officials who asked not to be identified, is if he possesses a certification of appointment signed by Blagojevich and Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White.

Burris would then be treated as a senator-elect, which by tradition means he'll be allowed on the Senate floor without voting or speaking privileges _ and he wouldn't be granted a desk, according to the officials. They requested anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

The man charged with letting people through the door of the chamber, Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Terrance Gainer, said he expects the two sides to work out a deal before Tuesday.

Gainer has known Burris since their days in Illinois law enforcement, when Burris was attorney general and Gainer was the director of the state police.

"He is a good man," Gainer said in a telephone interview. "He plays by the rules. I don't think there's going to be a confrontation."

Republicans have been wary about commenting, pleased to see Democrats mucking through a political mess of their own party's making.

But Republican Whip Jon Kyl of Arizona said Friday that he wants to review state and federal law before opining on whether Burris should be seated. Still, he questioned whether the legal status of the patron is enough reason to block the appointee.

"The Senate has to be very careful of setting a precedent that just because it doesn't like the governor that appointed (Burris) we therefore refuse to seat a qualified appointee," Kyl said in a telephone interview.

Not that Republicans are against blocking people from being seated. Another Republican leader, Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, told reporters Friday that he would object to seating any new senator from Minnesota until an anticipated court case is finished and an official election certificate issued in the battle between Republican Sen. Norm Coleman and Democrat Al Franken.

In contrast, nobody's objecting to Denver Public Schools Superintendent Michael Bennet, who is expected to be named to replace Sen. Ken Salazar, D-Colo., set to be Obama's interior secretary.

In the Illinois case, Senate Democrats believe the Constitution and their agenda-setting power give them the tools for a slow-motion rejection of Burris' credentials if they are not signed by both the governor and White, who has refused to certify anyone Blagojevich appoints.

If Burris appears at the Capitol with his certification signed by Blagojevich and White, the officials said, Burris would be permitted on the Senate floor.

Vice President Dick Cheney, as president of the Senate, would then ask whether anyone objects to the senators-elect being duly sworn. A Democrat would object and propose that Burris' credentials be referred to the Rules Committee for an investigation. If no one objects to that motion, the credentials go to the panel for a period of perhaps 90 days.

In the meantime, Burris gets the privileges of an unsworn senator-elect. The Senate's unofficial customs and traditions leave unclear whether that status would come with a pay check, but Burris could be accorded a stipend for staff and given office space.

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Associated Press writers Steven K. Paulson in Denver, Brian Bakst in St. Paul, Minn., and Christopher Wills in Chicago contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Senate Democratic leaders plan to grant few if any privileges next week to Roland Burris, the man picked by Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich to represent the state in the Senate, even ...
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The bad times America is going through now are not due to poor planning by our forefathers. How could they have anticipated that our country would be subjected to a Bush, a Pelosi, and a Reid all at the same time? How could they have foreseen that two branches of our government would be lead by so many ineffectual and unintellectual people at the same time?

I can only pray we continue voting the idiots out and that our country rebounds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 01/03/2009
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We need to vote out conservatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 01/03/2009

Is that the best answer you have to solve the problem, hand it over to one side of your ideological stupidity. Get in the middle, there are more of us than you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 01/03/2009
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One of the biggest liabilities in the american political system is the institution of "Filibustering".

H.E.L.L - no other democratic state in the WORLD has such a m.o.n.s.t.­r.o.u.s. .n.o.n.s.e­.n.s.e. as that!

Remedy filibustering - and you remedy 50 percent of all the headache coming from Washington!

And don't tell me, Filibustering is neccessary!

It's not! It's n.o.n.s.e.­n.s.e.!

Period!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 01/03/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 01/03/2009
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The Democrats play politics while the hungry stay hungry and the poor stay poor. The Party of the People that would rather party than help the people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 01/03/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 01/03/2009
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Have fun at your inauguration party. Are you doing stand up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 01/03/2009

Bravo, both parties are so detached, they dont have a clue. One party stands for greed, and the other does whats popular to win votes, usually from the less fortunate. Most of you probably wont agree, but how can anyone really be happy with any party? Obama is the only thing we got going for us and the country, there certainly isnt any faith in the other branch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 01/03/2009
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Well said. Unfortunately, O b a m a isn't enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 01/03/2009
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"hungry stay hungry and the poor stay poor."

And this is because of republican policies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 01/03/2009
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And Democrat in-f i g h t i n g and Inauguration Parties will undo these policies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 01/03/2009
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How could those he leads in the Senate have any respect for this guy?

They must roll their eyes and scratch the chalk board every time he ambles up to a microphone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 01/03/2009
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His colleagues voted him Majority leader. They must have seen a lot of themselves in him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 01/03/2009
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Now that's just mean. Heh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 01/03/2009
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Please go and check dialogue between GoldenGree­nInfiltrat­or and NoLongeraPasicist at about 9:18.

On the I and Ha m as thread directly below....

I'm paranoid..­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 01/03/2009
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I Reported them!

I am not easily intimidated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 01/03/2009

i cant figure the democrats out.you wont seat a senator who has been legally appointed by a sitting governor who has not been convicted of anything.b­ut you want to seat a senator whose election has not been decided yet?you seem to want it both ways

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 01/03/2009
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There are no plans to seat Franken before his election is certified.
The Senate plans to seat him while Coleman sues in federal court, which cannot occur until Franken is certified by the state of MN.

Burris' appointment is tainted by Blago's appearance of criminality, and the plan to slow his seating has nothing to do with Burris himself, but with Blago's actions.

Try for facts next time.

You may get to like the concept.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 01/03/2009
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Party Liner . . . All aboard!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 01/03/2009

Franken won't be certified if a court blocks his certification pending a judge's decision on the case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 01/03/2009
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I know Blago has not been found guilty, however, having been indicted, shouldn't he be suspended until this mess is cleaned up? If you were CEO of a corp. you would not be working until the matter was resolved. How is it any different!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 01/03/2009
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If the Democrats thought Franken had any chance of losing, they wouldn't seat him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 01/03/2009

No, it's kind of putting the cart before the horse. They think that if they can create the impression that the certified representative is Smalley, then they can use it as leverage in court.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 01/03/2009
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Just goes to show, mainstream voters need to start embracing a third party.
There's enough progressive voters who are independent-minded enough, that if they got over their phobia and started working together, it could happen pretty quickly. This two-lane gridlock is ridiculous.
It's all party politics-driven and does not serve the people, only two parties' game of chess.
A real bonefide, kick-a third party would split this open, could side with dems when needed and forge a more progressive direction than the dems are predisposed to go in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 01/03/2009
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bonafide

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 01/03/2009
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Your third-party suggestion would do nothing except put the GOP back in power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 01/03/2009
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As we rub our bony fingers together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 01/03/2009
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Please see the fuckedupst­ateofaffai­rs in my state.

There are NOT enough voters for it to work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 01/03/2009
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And thus why we're in gridlock -- third-party agoraphobia.
Everybody assumes not enough to make it work -- but if the right organizational entity showed us the real potential perhaps we might find out otherwise.

Look, I'm one of those who keeps voting dem -- and will until I'm convinced there is a chance. But the dialectic of figuring out if it *could* work needs to happen. Not Nader-model style -- but real down-to-business, pragmatic inquiry.

What's going on now is not doing the job. And the GOP and dems are smuggly playing it for all it's worth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 01/03/2009
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I don't know. Mi. would have gotten rid of CK, if the vote had not split 3 ways(she won with like 32% of the vote!). Maybe if that candidate is funded well enough, although it didn't help perot in '92. Then look at the mess in mn........­.Risky business, that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 01/03/2009
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Yes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 01/03/2009

The Dems are good a sabotaging their own party. The senate seat is only open for two years and then there will be an election. Then the people will be able to make a decision. But as of now, what the governor did is legal.

I think Gov. Rod Blagojevich is being wrongly persecuted. I urge him to fight for this rights.

The appointment is legal. So the Dems can't not justify this mess they are perpetrating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 01/03/2009

shouldn't he put the interests of the people of illinois before his own self-interest? seems like blago puts his ego above all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 01/03/2009
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The people of Illinois elected Blago governor.

He is the ONLY official constitutionally allowed to appoint Obama's successor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 01/03/2009
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i agree he should fight , i think fitz was grandstanding where's the crime ? even fitz is asking for more time , how can you impeach with out a indictment , isn't that like putting the cart before the horse

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 01/03/2009

I dont see how you can defend him. If there is scandal surrounding you, most respectable people wouldnt even get into a mess like this, but if he did anything that I have heard so far, he should step down, he is too selfish to do that though, instead keep the spotlight on him. This is Obama's time, he doesnt need this crap. I know Obama has nothing to do with it, but it hits too close to home and its been going on way too long.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 01/03/2009
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I despise Harry Reid.

He is a true liability: He's a spineless squidd who is devoid of ANY principled convictions. He seems to be exclusively engaged in a permanent loop of intransparent decision-mangling and backroom-m­aneuvering - but for a totally undisclosed cause; most probably, for his own benefit, rather than for anything else.

The day, when Harry Reid will finally leave the Senate, will be a good day for Barack Obama, for the Democrats - and for the american people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 01/03/2009
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Why are you focusing on his better traits?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 01/03/2009
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The guy is a one man "wrecking crew."

He's priceless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 01/03/2009
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True and I hope his constituents see it that way .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 01/03/2009
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They must all be related to him there in Stoplight Nevada.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 01/03/2009

Agreed, this is a large part of why I cant vote Dem. I dont agree with any of the leadership, but the same is true for the other side. I hope they all disapear as quick as possible. God bless PE Obama, he will need all the blessings he can get.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 01/03/2009

the war is lost - harry reid

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 01/03/2009
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Harry Reid is half right about Iraq. There is no war. There is an occupation. There are murderous insurgents in Iraq, but they are not an army. We own the country, a country formed by calling sworn enemies countrymen whether they liked it or not. (They didn't.) What's a lost cause is the whole appalling catastrophic criminal US enterprise in Iraq that was doomed from the start and has turned out even worse than people thought it would.

The Senate and House leaders are so astonishingly weak and ineffectual that I have to wonder if they aren't all on the same page as the Republicans, seeking the same corrupt outcomes while only pretending to be working for Democratic principles. Repugs. had all the power when they were the majority, and what do you know, they hold all the cards now too. WTF? Even a broken clock is right twice the day, but not the Democrats in Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 01/03/2009

in just 17 days the seas will cease to rise, the earth will finally begin to cool, the economy will do a 180, the middle east will become peaceful, terrorists will see the folly of their ways and the rivers will flow with milk and honey.

this is our time, we are the people we have been waiting for. together we can accomplish anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 01/03/2009
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Jesse White has refused to sign, seal and deliver the Certificate of Appointment. Unless and until he does, the appointment is not complete and the Senate is not involved. Burris has sued in the Illinois Supreme Court seeking that the court compel White. My guess is that the court will delay any ruling in the case until Blagojevich is impeached and convicted. The new governor will then withdraw the nomination and appoint another qualified African-American, such as Jesse Jackson, Jr. who is on Obama's short list, or Jesse White himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 01/03/2009
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That is certainly one of the possible outcomes.

Blago has made the whole thing messy---on purpose---because of his situation and his massive ego.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 01/03/2009
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Reid has exacerbated it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 01/03/2009
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That's being debated amongst Illinois Constitutional scholars as we type.

We'll see, if it matters or not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 01/03/2009
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I am convinced, that the nomination of Blurr was a s.h.o.t in r.e.v.e.n.­g.e by Blago, anyway

With the nomination of Blurr, Blago could, at the same time, h.i.t JJJ, Obama, Reid, Emmanuel and the Democrats in the Senate in a retaliatory s.h.o.t with only one, albeit supermagic bullet.

And while Blurr is competent, respected AND b.l.a.c.k, Blago can lay back and watch JJJ, Obama, Reid, Emmanuel and the Democrats in the Senate slipping deeper and deeper into political quicksand with each and every move they make, to revoke Blago's Senator-pick.

Blago must be laughing his a.s.s off, actually, while he is watching his "Supernagic b.u.l.l.e.­t" h.i.t.t.i.­n.g one political t.a.r.g.e.­t after another..

That's how the do it in Chicago.

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I am convinced, that the nomination of Blurr was a s.h.o.t in r.e.v.e.n.­g.e by Blago, anyway

With the nomination of Blurr, Blago could, at the same time, h.i.t JJJ, Obama, Reid, Emmanuel and the Democrats in the Senate in a r.e.t.a.l.­i.a.t.o.r.­y. s.h.o.t with only one, albeit supermagic b.u.l.l.e.­t.

And while Blurr is competent, respected AND b.l.a.c.k, Blago can lay back and watch JJJ, Obama, Reid, Emmanuel and the Democrats in the Senate s.l.i.p.p.­i.n.g. deeper and deeper into political quicksand with each and every move they make, to r.e.v.o.k.­e. Blago's Senator-pick.

Blago must be laughing his a.s.s off, actually, while he is watching his "Supernagic b.u.l.l.e.­t" h.i.t.t.i.­n.g one political t.a.r.g.e.­t after the other..

That's how the do it in Chicago.

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Revenge, or a well-played hand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 01/03/2009
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Maybe ! I think if the IL Supreme Court actually addresses this at all, they may have to by law cause White to sign !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 01/03/2009
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Well, I want him to keep his word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 01/03/2009
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Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 01/03/2009
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Yes we can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 01/03/2009
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According to the story on the politics page reid called burris and told him who he would like him to appoint.
It's starting to seem more like the dems want THEIR pick in and if burris had picked who they wanted, everything would have been fine.
In that context, they isn't much difference between reid and blago. Both wanted something for the seat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 01/03/2009
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Thank you - Reid was dealing in backroom nonsense with Blago in early December.

He's stinky from this and needs to just seat Burris and let it go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 01/03/2009
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It's embarrassing isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 01/03/2009
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Which is why, it is now starting to make sense.

Could Dingy Harry be the one that they are trying to protect?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 01/03/2009
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This was before the scandal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 01/03/2009

um, no one called burris. they called blago, the governor. pay attention!

and wanting someone you think will be able to defend the seat is pretty different from wanting cash or power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 01/03/2009
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oops sorry. and no it isn't really. I suspect reid wanted someone to control. No difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 01/03/2009

What we need in the Senate and the Congress in new fresh blood, the ones who put Obama in office.

The young progressives are the ones who came out in droves and supported Obama from the start, they the ones who put him in office. We need these young progressives to fill up the Senate and the Congress.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 01/03/2009
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Did you vote for your incumbent?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 01/03/2009
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Yes for Congress, no for Senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 01/03/2009
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Now all of a sudden Republicans are bug-eyed and frothing at the mouth about rule of law.

We sure could have used some of that during the past eight years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 01/03/2009
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At this critical time of need in our nation's history, it would be a crime to allow the Republicans in Congress to play their political games of delay and obstruct. Democrats need to play hard ball. Justice demands it.

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Absolutely!

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