US Debt May Soar By $2 Trillion In 2009

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First Posted: 01- 3-09 09:18 AM   |   Updated: 02- 3-09 05:12 AM

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With President-elect Barack Obama and congressional Democrats considering a massive spending package aimed at pulling the nation out of recession, the national debt is projected to jump by as much as $2 trillion this year, an unprecedented increase that could test the world's appetite for financing U.S. government spending.

For now, investors are frantically stuffing money into the relative safety of the U.S. Treasury, which has come to serve as the world's mattress in troubled times. Interest rates on Treasury bills have plummeted to historic lows, with some short-term investors literally giving the government money for free.

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With President-elect Barack Obama and congressional Democrats considering a massive spending package aimed at pulling the nation out of recession, the national debt is projected to jump by as much as ...
With President-elect Barack Obama and congressional Democrats considering a massive spending package aimed at pulling the nation out of recession, the national debt is projected to jump by as much as ...
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- iDonkey I'm a Fan of iDonkey 9 fans permalink
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Krugman says

don't worry about it and

I'm not going to worry about it

heh...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 01/03/2009
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 378 fans permalink
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I trust Paul a heII of a lot more than Hank, Ben, Larry, Bob and many others!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 01/03/2009
- yappnmutt I'm a Fan of yappnmutt 75 fans permalink

you shouldn't trust any of them. fiat money systems don't work. they have a 100% failure rate. anyone who supports a fiat money system is a fraud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 01/03/2009
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 65 fans permalink
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Add Nouriel Roubini and George Soros to those you should trust

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 01/03/2009
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Sorry,Uncle Sam,I don't have $86,000.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 01/03/2009

Keep some cash and food on hand. Worry about your personal debt, these
figures mean nothing because our gov't and business leaders are stone liars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 01/03/2009
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 159 fans permalink

Lord, what I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall when GWB meets his maker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 01/03/2009
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1621 fans permalink
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To all the Republicans and Republican apologists posting here, you can respond by posting the following link (first posted by Episcopagan):

http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm

It tells the whole story since 1938

The Presidents responsible for the highest rate of increase in national debt are : George W, George H W, Reagan, Ford and Nixon. All Republican.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 01/03/2009
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 378 fans permalink
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Good think a lot of us bookmarked that.

Heh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 01/03/2009
- KO4Pres I'm a Fan of KO4Pres 177 fans permalink
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Bookmarked for later digestion. Thanks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 01/03/2009
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Great info--thanks. Scroll down to the revenue vs. spending bargraph: every Dem admin (including Carter) brought in more than was spent; every Republican did the opposite. Rightwing pundits are so full of b.s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 01/03/2009
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 378 fans permalink
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So? Tell us something we didn't know.

Troops have entered G a z a.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 01/03/2009
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What this country needs is another immediate huge tax cut for the wealthy so that their money can then trickle down to us. What? Been there and done that, and it didn't work. Oh well, maybe we should reverse the process, tax the s h i t out of the wealthy and trickle it up to rebuild the middle class.

I read recently that if we taxed corporations (and actually made them pay the tax) at the rate they were paying in the 50's and 60's (when they made nice profits), we could pay off our national debt in a little more than a year. A first step would be to make corporations actually pay taxes. Current estimates are that 60% of US corporations pay zero taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 01/03/2009
- rubygreen I'm a Fan of rubygreen 322 fans permalink
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McCains rant during the campaign about how this country has the highest business tax was b.s. Maybe on paper it looked that way, but so many loopholes they get away with paying nothing. I get taxed at a high level because I am single, an independent contractor, with no kids. I am not a burden to the system and I am paying through the nose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 01/03/2009
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 159 fans permalink

GWB should be an inmate somewhere. He is responsible for children dying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 01/03/2009
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 338 fans permalink
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2 trillion?

What's that, about 2000 Euro?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 01/03/2009
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 65 fans permalink
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20 Yen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 01/03/2009
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My, what a legacy you have left this country George. Are you proud of yourself. Republicans - are you also proud of yourselves, because you are also responsible.

And the sad thing is that number does not include the money we have borrowed from China to fight George's vanity war. That has all been done "off the books".

George has done what Osama wanted to do to this country. He has bankrupted us. It's no wonder Osama has left us alone for the last 7 years. George has been doing his job for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 01/03/2009
- loki I'm a Fan of loki 133 fans permalink
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Refresh my memory with facts please, not opinions. but wasnt the fall of the USSR due to a economic collapse? Could history be repeating itself?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 01/03/2009
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 159 fans permalink

Time will tell, my friend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 01/03/2009
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Nope.

Different countries, different economic circumstances, different government policies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 01/03/2009

good point newman no similiarties at all

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 01/03/2009
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 378 fans permalink
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The re-collapse of Russia was thanks to Chicago School economics (after the fall of the USSR).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 01/03/2009
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 65 fans permalink
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Wrong. Paul Krugman wrote a great article about the collapse of the USSR, research it

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 01/03/2009
- yappnmutt I'm a Fan of yappnmutt 75 fans permalink

more like the british empire. the euro is king now. when china cuts off our line of credit the dollar will buy one piece of bubblegum.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 01/03/2009
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 65 fans permalink
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No, it was economic growth or lack of that caused the collapse of the USSR. The Solow's growth model says that when an economic relies heavily on capital, it will experience diminishing returns, even if it increase its labor unit per machines. The lack of technological changes, which would have helped propelled the USSR economy was what led to its utter collapse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 01/03/2009
- myangeldog1 I'm a Fan of myangeldog1 102 fans permalink
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So...accor­ding to the main photo, each family including mine owes $86,000...­...hahahah­ahahahahah­ah!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 01/03/2009
- HeIsTheOne I'm a Fan of HeIsTheOne 206 fans permalink
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I couldn't pay the interest for one year on that.

My local town tax bill came in today....Y­ikes! Gas prices have dropped, but my town is still living in the $4/gallon world for highway costs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 01/03/2009

i'm sorry but i don't have a spare $86 grand to sheII out.......­especially since i didn't even benefit from it.......(­bailing out wallstreet, bIowlng up the WRONG country...­....and I'M supposed to foot the biII?????? WTF??????)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 01/03/2009

inluvwk.o. : That was my reaction to the 86K. news, as well...


-ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 01/03/2009
- myangeldog1 I'm a Fan of myangeldog1 102 fans permalink
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Isn't that in s a n e!! I couldn't believe it when I saw that....my exact sentiment.­..WTF?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 01/03/2009
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1621 fans permalink
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The good news: that much money wouldn't buy much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 01/03/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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How do you run up so much debt, and have nothing to show for it? I mean, if I run up my personal credit cards, I'm atleast going to have a couple new flat screen TVs. Something. Anything. This guy Bush doubles the national debt, and has nothing but disaster to show for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 01/03/2009

historical high in home ownership.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 01/03/2009
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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Which led to the worst financial disaster in 70 years....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 01/03/2009
- rubygreen I'm a Fan of rubygreen 322 fans permalink
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And those average homes are now worth about half of what people paid for them.. maybe we should just give the gov't our homes, that might cover a portion of the debt we each owe!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 01/03/2009
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 65 fans permalink
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WROOOONG. Historical high in war expenditures

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 01/03/2009
- Hirnlego I'm a Fan of Hirnlego 114 fans permalink
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You don't actually own it if you're in debt. Its paid with other people's money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 01/03/2009
- iDonkey I'm a Fan of iDonkey 9 fans permalink
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very very very

good point

heh...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 01/03/2009
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Mr Obama can take his new stimulus package and shove it righT up his a s s. Give me real reform and stop handing out free money

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 01/03/2009
- Pennsanic I'm a Fan of Pennsanic 9 fans permalink
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Nobel prize (in economics) Paul Krugman says: Right now, with the economy in free fall and everyone terrified of Great Depression 2.0, opponents of a strong federal response are having a hard time finding support. John Boehner, the House Republican leader, has been reduced to using his Web site to seek “credentialed American economists” willing to add their names to a list of “stimulus spending skeptics.”

But once the economy has perked up a bit, there will be a lot of pressure on the new administration to pull back, to throw away the economy’s crutches. And if the administration gives in to that pressure too soon, the result could be a repeat of the mistake F.D.R. made in 1937 — the year he slashed spending, raised taxes and helped plunge the United States into a serious recession.

The point is that it may take a lot longer than many people think before the U.S. economy is ready to live without bubbles. And until then, the economy is going to need a lot of government help...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 01/03/2009
- vjoseph I'm a Fan of vjoseph 65 fans permalink
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Open your mouth, I have something to shove down your throat

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 01/03/2009
- chaos4700 I'm a Fan of chaos4700 85 fans permalink
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Gee, isn't this fiscal conservatism at it's finest?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 01/03/2009
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