Bush On Gaza Fighting: Israel Has The Right To Protect Itself

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ROBERT BURNS | January 5, 2009 06:58 PM EST | AP

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President George W. Bush reflects on the crisis in Gaza as he speaks with reporters during his meeting with Sudan's First Vice President Salva Kiir in the Oval Office, at the White House in Washington, Monday, Jan. 5, 2009. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration stuck to its defense of Israel's expanding offensive in the Gaza Strip on Monday and pushed for a cease-fire including a lasting halt to Hamas' rocket attacks on Israel and a reopening of border crossings that are Gaza's economic lifeline.

President George W. Bush, in his first public comments on the conflict since Israel launched a ground offensive over the weekend, said the Jewish state was justified in protecting itself against Hamas militants.

"The situation now taking place in Gaza was caused by Hamas," Bush told reporters in the Oval Office, referring to the Islamist movement that rules Gaza and is deemed by Washington to be a terrorist group.

"Instead of caring about the people of Gaza, Hamas decided to use Gaza to launch rockets to kill innocent Israelis," Bush said. "Israel's obviously decided to protect herself and her people."

While France and many other countries have pressed for an immediate cease-fire, the United States has insisted that any truce be sustainable _ and that Hamas go first in ending the exchange of fire. Hamas has launched hundreds of rockets into southern Israel, while Israel has pursued a ferocious campaign that began as a week of aerial bombing and was expanded Saturday into a ground offensive.

Bush, without explicitly endorsing Israel's ground campaign, laid blame for the conflict squarely on Hamas. He said he hopes for a cease-fire but added that it would not work unless Hamas stops its attacks.

Bush also expressed concern about the grave humanitarian crisis in Gaza, where people have lived under hard and worsening conditions and Israeli bombardment. The violence must stop, Bush said, "but not at the expense of an agreement that does not prevent the crisis from happening again."

President-elect Barack Obama said that he's been getting daily briefings on the situation in the Middle East, but offered little comment beyond noting that "delicate negotiations are taking place" and that there can't be "two voices coming out of the United States."

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Obama's chief national security spokeswoman, Brooke Anderson, declined to comment on the three-point cease-fire proposal announced by the State Department, which was quickly rejected by a Hamas official as slanted in favor of Israel.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had 17 phone conversations over the weekend with foreign leaders in a bid for international consensus on those three points, which include a halt to Hamas' rocket firing into Israel.

The cease-fire proposal also would include a key Hamas demand: an arrangement for reopening crossing points on the border with Israel, McCormack said. The third element would address the tunnels into Gaza from Egypt through which Hamas has smuggled materials and arms.

"We're doing a lot of work on these three elements. The secretary is trying to get the international system and various actors in the international system to coalesce around those three elements," McCormack said.

McCormack said arrangements to reopen the border crossings could be worked out on the basis of a 2005 "movement and access" accord that has not been fully implemented by the Israelis and Palestinians. He said some additional equipment and technical expertise might have to be supplied as part of such an arrangement. He offered no further details.

In Damascus, Syria, a Hamas official rejected the U.S. proposal, saying it reflects the Israeli view. The deputy head of Hamas' political leadership in Syria, Moussa Abu Marzouk, told The Associated Press the U.S. plan would serve to encourage continued Israeli attacks, creating "more massacres" in Gaza.

Israel has said it intends to press its offensive until it silences the Hamas rockets, but it has been less explicit about its long-term objectives. A senior U.S. defense official said Monday that, so far, Americans see no indication inside Gaza that Israel is preparing for a long-term occupation of the territory. The defense official requested anonymity in order to discuss intelligence.

At the Pentagon, spokesman Bryan Whitman said Defense Secretary Robert Gates spoke Sunday with his Israeli counterpart, but Whitman declined to give details. About 100 American troops are in Israel to maintain and provide crew for an advanced U.S. radar that gives Israel early warning in case of a missile attack, Whitman said.

An Israeli official in Washington said Monday that his country is not seeking additional equipment or other U.S. military help. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the country's discussions with the Bush administration, also said there are no plans to use cluster bombs in Gaza.

The State Department determined a year ago that Israel probably misused U.S.-made cluster bombs during its 2006 war with Hezbollah militants in Lebanon.

Cluster bomblets are packed by the hundreds into artillery shells, bombs or missiles, which scatter them over vast areas. Some fail to explode immediately. The unexploded bomblets can then lie dormant for years until they are disturbed, often by children attracted by their small size and bright colors.

The State Department has withheld direct comment on the Israel ground thrust into Gaza, which began Saturday. Pressed for comment Monday, McCormack said, "Every sovereign state has to decide for itself how best to defend itself." He also reiterated the administration's concern about the conflict's impact on civilians.

The Gaza crisis prompted Rice to cancel a long-planned trip to China this week. While Rice has been making phone calls to allies to foster a cease-fire in Gaza, McCormack said Monday that she has no current plans to visit the Mideast as part of that effort.

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Associated Press writers Ben Feller, Anne Gearan and Pauline Jelinek contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration stuck to its defense of Israel's expanding offensive in the Gaza Strip on Monday and pushed for a cease-fire including a lasting halt to Hamas' rocket attack...
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration stuck to its defense of Israel's expanding offensive in the Gaza Strip on Monday and pushed for a cease-fire including a lasting halt to Hamas' rocket attack...
 
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- Ronju01 I'm a Fan of Ronju01 11 fans permalink
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Is there any parallel between the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and Palestinian rocket attact on Israel? I'm sure Nazis were more ruthless crushing it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 01/05/2009
- Unsunder I'm a Fan of Unsunder 2 fans permalink

The Nazis would have exterminated the Palestinians decades ago. There is no comparison to be made here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 01/05/2009
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"Israel Has Right To Protect Itself."

Sure it does, but last I checked we were protecting it!

http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 01/05/2009
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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Uhmmm..............first this information is outdated. Second, the information is a total of all aid and benefits including LOANS since 1948. Third, the numbers are worthless unless we can compare them to aid accorded other nations in the world.

Or is it your point only that the J_ewish state should be singled out for special treatment and be one of the few nations in the world that DO NOT receive American aid?

(Also note that these aid numbers INCLUDE interest Isreal may have collected from the early disbursement of aid, which allows Israel to gain the interest on unspent money.)

This article did indicate that Isreal receives only 12% of our Foreign Aid budget, so I guess Isreal is NOT receiving as special treatment as you'd like things to be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 01/05/2009

Really..how many Americans are fighting for Israel?? Answer: NOT ONE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 01/05/2009
- LAThinker I'm a Fan of LAThinker 17 fans permalink

Israel can take care of herself

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 01/05/2009
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 241 fans permalink
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Yes, they have a right to defend themselves.

No, they do not have the right to GREATLY ESCALATE terrorism world-wide with atrocities / massacres which will affect US as much or more than it affects THEM.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 01/05/2009

Are you seriously suggesting that there is a nation on this Earth that has been more deeply affected by the wrath of terrorism than Isr@el???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 01/05/2009
- Unsunder I'm a Fan of Unsunder 2 fans permalink

Rockets are rockets. As another poster pointed out, this is not nonviolent protest, like Gandhi would have encouraged. You can't fire rockets from a civilian area and expect there to be no retaliation. The U.S. fire-bombed whole cities into ashes during World War II, and American schoolchildren are taught that was completely appropriate. (I disagree, and I obviously also feel that the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were war crimes.)

What Israel is doing is as discriminate as it could possibly be, considering they are fighting an enemy in one of the densest urban areas in the world. They are not carpet-bombing nor fire-bombing. They are using precision-guided munitions in order to zero in on Hamas facilities and personnel.

Exactly how is Israel supposed to take on a heavily armed military force in a dense urban area without generating any civilian casualties? Anyone have any ideas? There are so many experts in the progressive community on what is proportionate and disproportionate. /sarcasm

War is war, and you can't negotiate with organizations like Hamas or Al Qaeda. If you think you can, go for it. You can be in their next beheading video.

I believe Fatah is different. They can be negotiated with, and Israel needs to continue the peace process with them. People need to be realistic about who constitutes a viable partner for peace, and who constitutes a viable partner for war. Hamas is part of the latter group.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 01/05/2009

According to Bush, this is a one sided affair, with one side totally wrong, deserving of death and destruction, and the other, pure as the driven snow. Israeli's are eternal "victims", and Palestinians are eternal "bad guys". Human affairs never actually roll like that though.

Israel is punishing innocent people for having "bad guys" in their midst. And in their insanity, they think that slaughtering innocent people is going to improve relations by making the Palestinians mad at Hamas, and appreciative of Israel's efforts to kill them all! That is so incredibly retarded. It is also incredibly savage. Attacking and killing people, with the stated goal of making them turn on their only defenders (aka Hamas), is true insanity. It's also not what's really going on. What's really going on is that Israel is trying to get Hamas to stop what they are doing, by murdering innocent Palestinians who's lives were already a living hell because of the sealing of Gaza. The rocket fire from Hamas has been the direct result of Israel's violations of international laws governing occupying forces/countries. When Israel "gave back" Gaza, they actually did nothing of the kind, they turned it into an open air concentration camp in which they could commit genocide with impunity. They've been starving the Palestinians ever since...and now are slaughtering those same people that they've have already been brutalizing through starvation and deprevation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 01/05/2009
- sc92705 I'm a Fan of sc92705 5 fans permalink

What is Gaza but 1.5 million impoverished Arabs left twisting in the win by their "Arab brothers" to be no more then cannon fodder and missible-lobbers. If Gaza had an economy and a reasonable standard of living this problem goes away. Then they would have something to protect and not risk by attacking Israel. These people have nothing and nothing to lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 01/05/2009
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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"These people have nothing and nothing to lose."

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These people have nothing and nothing to lose FROM PURSUING PEACE

They have rejected past PEACE efforts and have consciously chosen the paths of violent resistance, Intifada, and W A R instead of Mahatma Gandhi's path of NON-VIOLENT RESISTANCE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 01/05/2009
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Pretty deplorable conditions allright! Hard not to feel sorry for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 01/05/2009
- Unsunder I'm a Fan of Unsunder 2 fans permalink

Very insightful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 01/05/2009
- comacoma I'm a Fan of comacoma 15 fans permalink

"These people have nothing and nothing to lose."

Thanks to an intolerant and seemingly genocidal Israeli government... and plenty of support from the USA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 01/05/2009
- Unsunder I'm a Fan of Unsunder 2 fans permalink

I'm not sure you realize what genocide is. You are watering it down by using it in a context in which it doesn't belong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 01/05/2009

What genocide? Where? Explain how a war with terrorists is genocide!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 01/05/2009
- LAThinker I'm a Fan of LAThinker 17 fans permalink

Wrong - Thanks to an intolerant and seemingly genocidal Hamas... and plenty of support from Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 01/05/2009
- Wozzeck I'm a Fan of Wozzeck 23 fans permalink
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Of course, the land and water theft and military occupation by Israel have nothing to do with the Palestinian economy. Grow a brain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 01/05/2009

Israel WON the land in defensive wars against Arab States ! How is THAT theft??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 01/05/2009
- JZ735 I'm a Fan of JZ735 22 fans permalink

The BBC has had outstanding coverage of this story...I cannot watch or listen to American news media, since the bias is so apparent in their reporting towards Israel. I heard a reporter for Haaretz, the Israeli paper, point out that this has gone from being about justice to revenge by Israel...he points out, mimicking Obama's stand, that it is essential for Israel to negotiate with its enemy, Hamas, especially if through intermediaries such as Egypt...however, many Palestinians are angry with Egypt's lead foot on this...

Israel's continual denial that there is a humanitarian crisis is belied by footage on the ground and by international doctors who have made it clear that upwards of 45% of those who have been maimed, injured or killed are women and children. It is time for Israel to stop lying about what it is doing...the eyes of the world are watching, and are disgusted by their action...Hamas deserves condemnation too for being provocative with its rockets and for putting Palestinians in harm's way...both sides have shown they care little about their citizenry or the people of the other side...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 01/05/2009
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"Instead of caring about the people of the USA, King George W decided to use 9/11 to launch a calamitous and expensive oil war and ki// innocent Iraqis"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 01/05/2009

Bush: Israel has a right to defend itself, Palestinians have a right to die, no, an obligation to die.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 01/05/2009

Makes perfect sense to me!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 01/05/2009

"Israel certaintly has every right to defend herself, and she is not occupying any land that is not hers. God gave all the land to the decendents of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to be theirs FOREVER...Ishamael was not included in this covenant from God.....this is a family feud that has gone on for generations, and it won't be long before Almighty God will settle this once and for all."

You have got to be effing kidding me!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 01/05/2009
- Tobiasism I'm a Fan of Tobiasism 7 fans permalink

Tired of the stupidity?
The fake victimization of the Palestinisans?
Try a little peace, for a change.
Reject the rejectionist Hamas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 01/05/2009
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He is right. Israel has the right to defend herself. Dropping cluster bombs and white phosphorous on a densely populated are IS NOT DEFENDING ITSELF.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 01/05/2009
- Unsunder I'm a Fan of Unsunder 2 fans permalink

Is there real evidence of Israel using cluster bombs and white phosporous?

I'm not saying it's not true. I just haven't seen the evidence yet, and I'd appreciate it if you could point me there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 01/05/2009

BBC reports the use of white phosphorus, cluster bombs uncertain but they were used in Lebanon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 01/05/2009
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11611

In Israels defense(did I just say that?) they claim they are using them for their smokescreen effect, which is legit, however the picture here looks like it's detonating on the ground, which would nullify the smoke effect and increase the burn effect.

For a smokescreen they should detonate at about 1000 feet or so and the phosphorous should pretty well burn out before reaching the ground.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 01/05/2009
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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The Geneva Treaty of 1980 stipulates that white phosphorus should not be used as a weapon of war in civilian areas, but there is no blanket ban under international law on its use as a smokescreen or for illumination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 01/05/2009
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 241 fans permalink
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Lead photo on Huffpo 2 days ago appeared to show Willy Pete being dropped on GaZa. But I'm no expert.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 01/05/2009
- scooperss I'm a Fan of scooperss 72 fans permalink
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London Times

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 01/05/2009
- GJR227 I'm a Fan of GJR227 4 fans permalink

Jr is right on top of things again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 01/05/2009

seems like this is what the "whatever it can" comment that usually follows "israel has the right to do" basically means.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 01/05/2009
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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You twist and distort in order to justify your personal prejudices.

Isreal has the right to wage w a r in order to defend itself as does any other state.

Gaza is a de facto state. They are free to wage w a r or sue for PEACE as they please. They have a right to defend themselves.

Isreal is also free to exercise those rights, a right that belongs to all states. Isreal has the right to defend itself, to retaliate, to escalate and to destroy enemy property and lives.

The same rights applies to Hamas. Both parties are in agreement that they are engaging in w_arfare with each other.

How does YOUR choosing sides increase the opportunity for PEACE in the region?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 01/05/2009

Bush sat on his hands and let (encouraged ) Israel to drop cluster bombs and white phosphorous in Lebanon as well. We all know our shameful President condones torture and murder and could care less about dead people. He shames all Americans and he should be arrested and put in prison for his War Crimes (he's probably giggling right now). Can't wait for a President with intelligence, honor, and integrity. Just two weeks from tomorrow!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 01/05/2009

Ahhh, forever the "compassionate conservative". Don't stop the bloodshed and get the two sides to talk, let the slaughter go on. This is the crux of Caligula Bush....all we are saying, is give war a chance!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 01/05/2009

Hamas will one day come for America just like Al Quieda has. I hope you all get as much support as you give Israel when you attempt to defend yourselves!

The Palestinians have been kicked out of Jordan, Egypt, Kuwait, Lebanon and almost every other Arab country due to their bad behaviour. Why should Israel want them if their "Moslem brothers" have booted them to the curb??

Have any of you considered why Saudi, Dubai, Qatar, etc have not taken these guys in?? Mo, the smallest country in the middle east should take care of these "refuges" when their own brothers won't even help then!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 01/05/2009

It's so sad you have to feel sorry for the poor fellow (Bush) because as that photo shows, in his mind before every statement he's probably going

"What's the use, anything I say's goin to be WRONG so why even try"

then the frowny face
:(
Poor president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 01/05/2009
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The thing is, you are probably right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 01/05/2009

The poor Decider-in-Chief doesn't know which way to go now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 01/05/2009
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