Bush On Gaza Fighting: Israel Has The Right To Protect Itself

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ROBERT BURNS | January 5, 2009 06:58 PM EST | AP

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President George W. Bush reflects on the crisis in Gaza as he speaks with reporters during his meeting with Sudan's First Vice President Salva Kiir in the Oval Office, at the White House in Washington, Monday, Jan. 5, 2009. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration stuck to its defense of Israel's expanding offensive in the Gaza Strip on Monday and pushed for a cease-fire including a lasting halt to Hamas' rocket attacks on Israel and a reopening of border crossings that are Gaza's economic lifeline.

President George W. Bush, in his first public comments on the conflict since Israel launched a ground offensive over the weekend, said the Jewish state was justified in protecting itself against Hamas militants.

"The situation now taking place in Gaza was caused by Hamas," Bush told reporters in the Oval Office, referring to the Islamist movement that rules Gaza and is deemed by Washington to be a terrorist group.

"Instead of caring about the people of Gaza, Hamas decided to use Gaza to launch rockets to kill innocent Israelis," Bush said. "Israel's obviously decided to protect herself and her people."

While France and many other countries have pressed for an immediate cease-fire, the United States has insisted that any truce be sustainable _ and that Hamas go first in ending the exchange of fire. Hamas has launched hundreds of rockets into southern Israel, while Israel has pursued a ferocious campaign that began as a week of aerial bombing and was expanded Saturday into a ground offensive.

Bush, without explicitly endorsing Israel's ground campaign, laid blame for the conflict squarely on Hamas. He said he hopes for a cease-fire but added that it would not work unless Hamas stops its attacks.

Bush also expressed concern about the grave humanitarian crisis in Gaza, where people have lived under hard and worsening conditions and Israeli bombardment. The violence must stop, Bush said, "but not at the expense of an agreement that does not prevent the crisis from happening again."

President-elect Barack Obama said that he's been getting daily briefings on the situation in the Middle East, but offered little comment beyond noting that "delicate negotiations are taking place" and that there can't be "two voices coming out of the United States."

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Obama's chief national security spokeswoman, Brooke Anderson, declined to comment on the three-point cease-fire proposal announced by the State Department, which was quickly rejected by a Hamas official as slanted in favor of Israel.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had 17 phone conversations over the weekend with foreign leaders in a bid for international consensus on those three points, which include a halt to Hamas' rocket firing into Israel.

The cease-fire proposal also would include a key Hamas demand: an arrangement for reopening crossing points on the border with Israel, McCormack said. The third element would address the tunnels into Gaza from Egypt through which Hamas has smuggled materials and arms.

"We're doing a lot of work on these three elements. The secretary is trying to get the international system and various actors in the international system to coalesce around those three elements," McCormack said.

McCormack said arrangements to reopen the border crossings could be worked out on the basis of a 2005 "movement and access" accord that has not been fully implemented by the Israelis and Palestinians. He said some additional equipment and technical expertise might have to be supplied as part of such an arrangement. He offered no further details.

In Damascus, Syria, a Hamas official rejected the U.S. proposal, saying it reflects the Israeli view. The deputy head of Hamas' political leadership in Syria, Moussa Abu Marzouk, told The Associated Press the U.S. plan would serve to encourage continued Israeli attacks, creating "more massacres" in Gaza.

Israel has said it intends to press its offensive until it silences the Hamas rockets, but it has been less explicit about its long-term objectives. A senior U.S. defense official said Monday that, so far, Americans see no indication inside Gaza that Israel is preparing for a long-term occupation of the territory. The defense official requested anonymity in order to discuss intelligence.

At the Pentagon, spokesman Bryan Whitman said Defense Secretary Robert Gates spoke Sunday with his Israeli counterpart, but Whitman declined to give details. About 100 American troops are in Israel to maintain and provide crew for an advanced U.S. radar that gives Israel early warning in case of a missile attack, Whitman said.

An Israeli official in Washington said Monday that his country is not seeking additional equipment or other U.S. military help. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the country's discussions with the Bush administration, also said there are no plans to use cluster bombs in Gaza.

The State Department determined a year ago that Israel probably misused U.S.-made cluster bombs during its 2006 war with Hezbollah militants in Lebanon.

Cluster bomblets are packed by the hundreds into artillery shells, bombs or missiles, which scatter them over vast areas. Some fail to explode immediately. The unexploded bomblets can then lie dormant for years until they are disturbed, often by children attracted by their small size and bright colors.

The State Department has withheld direct comment on the Israel ground thrust into Gaza, which began Saturday. Pressed for comment Monday, McCormack said, "Every sovereign state has to decide for itself how best to defend itself." He also reiterated the administration's concern about the conflict's impact on civilians.

The Gaza crisis prompted Rice to cancel a long-planned trip to China this week. While Rice has been making phone calls to allies to foster a cease-fire in Gaza, McCormack said Monday that she has no current plans to visit the Mideast as part of that effort.

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Associated Press writers Ben Feller, Anne Gearan and Pauline Jelinek contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration stuck to its defense of Israel's expanding offensive in the Gaza Strip on Monday and pushed for a cease-fire including a lasting halt to Hamas' rocket attack...
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration stuck to its defense of Israel's expanding offensive in the Gaza Strip on Monday and pushed for a cease-fire including a lasting halt to Hamas' rocket attack...
 
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- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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grey32 posted: "while Israel spits on us and everyone"

Coyote: “Your post reveals your BIAS and borders upon anti_semitism.

ethancorso: "Stop hiding behind cries of anti-semitism, coward. The Palestinians (as well as all Arabs) are Semitic people, too."

chedet: “Arabs are semitic people too.”

jdw1981: “Excellent point.”

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I am always amazed at the level of ignorance among the far left anti-Isreal crowd, and how much far right (white knight) propaganda that you share. The usage of the “Arabs are semitic people too,” and-I-am-not-against-Arabs, therefore-I-cannot-be-anti_semitic argument is an indication of being exposed to skin_head p_ropaganda.

It is a false argument. Anti_semitism has a very SPECIFIC meaning that has nothing to do with being against Semites. Look it up and learn.

Oh, right, a hint: the term was invented by an anti_semitic person to put a cleaner face upon his J_ewHatreds and became accepted through the pogoms of the early 20th century

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 01/05/2009

Israel certaintly has every right to defend herself, and she is not occupying any land that is not hers. God gave all the land to the decendents of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to be theirs FOREVER...Ishamael was not included in this covenant from God.....this is a family feud that has gone on for generations, and it won't be long before Almighty God will settle this once and for all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 01/05/2009
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The Native American recieved the same message. I wonder what went wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 01/05/2009
- hairball68 I'm a Fan of hairball68 3 fans permalink

god is a psychopath

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 01/05/2009
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Are you for real?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 01/05/2009
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Spare us the nonsense!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 01/05/2009
- comacoma I'm a Fan of comacoma 15 fans permalink

You people and your talk of "god" is what causes these problems... it's sickening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 01/05/2009

how pathetic.

Obviously we can not negotiate with God or ask him whether he or she did or not Mr. right ?

Besides, those lands are occupied by Israel, Golan heights, Shebaa Farms, West Bank,and Gaza strip (thats why they are called THE OCCUPIED TERRITORIES) . Do i need to continue?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 01/05/2009
- Norge I'm a Fan of Norge 22 fans permalink

As a moose against a mink

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 01/05/2009
- RachelMc I'm a Fan of RachelMc 78 fans permalink
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I want to know, without negative comments and sarcasm, EXACTLY why this is our problem and why do we constantly have to try to be the peace keeper or save EVERYWHERE when we have our own problems? How long has the Middle East had problems and do anyone actually think any of those problems will actually get solved with or without the US getting involved? and by Middle East, if someone wants to get technical, please don't because u know which countries i am speaking of: Afghanistan Egypt Iran Iraq Israel Jordan Lebanon Palestine Pakistan Qatar Saudi Arabia Syria Turkey plus or minus one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 01/05/2009
- Petunia39 I'm a Fan of Petunia39 5 fans permalink

AIPAC and friends

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 01/05/2009
- Hank007 I'm a Fan of Hank007 88 fans permalink

By pandering to the pro-Israel segment of the population, people win votes in Florida and NY, plus AIPAC funds campaigns that are pro-Israel, funds candidates' opponents when they are not pro-Israel enough.

Iran- we deposed their democratically elected leader, and installed a dictator clled the Shah. They didn't like it much.

Iraq- we armed Sadam and told him to kill Iranians (while arming Iran, as did Israel). Then we decided we would take that oil ourselves, thnk you.

Saudi Arabia- We use our military to protect the dictatorship of the monarchy against their population, who perfer to have elections and not live under a dictatorship.

Someone else can take it from here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 01/05/2009
- tsand19151 I'm a Fan of tsand19151 6 fans permalink
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It's our problem because we give Israel 6 Billion bucks a year in "aid".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 01/05/2009
- anthonylee I'm a Fan of anthonylee 4 fans permalink
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Condi said that what's needed in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict is a "durable and sustainable" ceasefire . . . . .

I guess this same can be said regarding #43 response to Katrina, Civil Liberties post 9/11, Homeland Security, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Pakistan, . . . . durable and sustainable - incompetence and lack of leadership. . . . . . we can now add Gaza to this ever growing list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 01/05/2009
- Rigagli I'm a Fan of Rigagli 3 fans permalink

Israel wouldn't behave the way it's behaving if they wanted a sustainable two state solution. The expansion of settlements in the West Bank, the blockade, now the disproportionate death toll in the latest round of violence. Under the current dire circumstances in Gaza, does anyone expect the Gazans not to fight? American Revolutionaries fought against the British for this land. If Canada enforced a blockade on the US and started settlements in Buffalo, NY, there would be a call to arms in the US, and I bet some upstate New Yorkers would be firing off Quassem rockets. What is Israel's strategy here? Is it to drive the Palestinians off the land? Are they waiting for some sort of green light for this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 01/05/2009
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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The state of w_arfare continues.

There is no PEACE treaty.

Generally the losing side sues for PEACE and trades land for PEACE. Isreal occupies the land because no PEACE treaty has been signed and the state of w_arfare continues, as evidenced by almost daily rocket mortar and missile attacks in the last several years.

Isreal has evidence hat giving up land WITHOUT a PEACE treaty does not work, as seen in Gaza. 3000 to 4500 rocket mortar and missile a_ttacks(daily acts of w a r) since Isreal pulled out of Gaza, in effect allowing a the formation of a de facto state.

A state that is sworn to destroy the Jewish state and refuses to recognize the state EVEN IF Isreal would withdraw to 1967 borders (as evidenced by Hamas leaders and spokespersons).

The "green light" everyone is waiting for is for the losing side to sue for PEACE, as is traditional in w_arfare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 01/05/2009
- Unsunder I'm a Fan of Unsunder 2 fans permalink

Rigagli said:"Israel wouldn't behave the way it's behaving if they wanted a sustainable two state solution. The expansion of settlements in the West Bank, the blockade, now the disproportionate death toll in the latest round of violence."

A Hamas leader who was killed recently said that the only reason for a ceasefire with Israel is to arm for war, and that there is no chance that true Islam would ever allow a Jewish state to survive in the Muslim Middle East. What do you expect Israel to do in the face of such fanatics?

The blockade was put in place in order to try to contain Hamas and prevent it from acquiring weapons to use in attacks against Israel. Don't forget that Egypt has been participating in the blockade as well, because they also view Hamas as dangerous.

As far as a "disproportionate death toll", I think the death toll is pretty low considering the quantities of munitions which have been used. War is war, and you should have no illusions that what is happening over there is war. People will die. It is sad and unfortunate, but Israel has no choice but to fight Hamas. It's what Hamas wants, and they will continue to attack Israel in order to necessitate an Israeli response. The only solution is for Hamas to be destroyed or restrained. Israel is not in a position to restrain Hamas, so they are doing the best they can do destroy or degrade its capabilities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 01/05/2009
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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It's not Gazans, it's Hamas they're fighting. Did you know that Hamas' founding covenant calls for the extermination of all Jews? Not even the Na zis were that publicly explicit in their goals. Rooting for Hamas is like rooting for the KKK or a neo-n azi group.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 01/05/2009
- comacoma I'm a Fan of comacoma 15 fans permalink

You are confusing advocating for peace with rooting for Hamas...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 01/05/2009
- zjr909 I'm a Fan of zjr909 24 fans permalink

Question: have any of our leaders ever said that "Palestine has a right to defend itself?" Ever? Ever ever ever? Or is it just understood that they don't count, so how could we possibly care about their "rights?" Who knows: maybe when you know no one's listening, you might get frustrated enough to do something that plays right into your enemies' hands? Of course, there is a school of thought that says Israel's continued attempts at assassinating Hamas leaders was, in itself, a kind of de facto violation of the truce. Has anyone ever asked Hamas, or the Palestinians for their view of the situation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 01/05/2009
- lacitepq I'm a Fan of lacitepq 4 fans permalink
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I have wondered the same thing. According to US politicians and the press it seems like Israel can do no wrong and Palestinians are always the bad guys. There is no way the reality is that one-sided.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 01/05/2009

Have you ever heard any Palestinian say "I voted for Hamas"?
Well they did. They voted for a terrorist organization to lead then. This pretty much Proves they do not want peace.
If they wanted peace, they have had many opportunities!!

The Cuban people were forced to leave Cuba im the 1960's with nothing but what they could carry. They are now successful all over the world BECAUSE they wanted to be. The Palestinians are not forced to stay in Gaza. They can move with their precious families anywhere in the world BUT a tiny place called Israel. If they cared about there children they WOULD go somewhere safer and start again. What responsible adult does ABSOLUTELY nothing to take care of there family except compalin that the people they hate won't take 100% care of them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 01/05/2009

I see the Israelis are now using white phosphorous on the residents of Gaza. I guess 'the right to defend itself' includes the right to turn Arabs into fried chicken.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 01/05/2009
- comacoma I'm a Fan of comacoma 15 fans permalink

It makes me want t o puke when I hear the Israeli propaganda machine crank out its remarks about avoiding civilian causalities.... pretty freaking difficult when they are using WP and cluster bombs.....

Israel is wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 01/05/2009
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It bothers me even more to see and hear American media (to say nothing of the President of the U.S.) parrot the Israeli propoganda machine....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 01/05/2009
- ggorilla I'm a Fan of ggorilla 4 fans permalink
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No Israel is correct. Hamas is a terrorist organization that hides bhind a woman's skirt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 01/05/2009
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 555 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 01/05/2009
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Apparently war crimes is not something that bothers the Israeli government!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 01/05/2009
- Synoia I'm a Fan of Synoia 8 fans permalink

BusH: "I understand Israel's desire to protect itself," Bush said in the Oval Office. "The situation now taking place in Gaza was caused by Hamas."

Corrected: "I understand Israel's desire to protect itself," Bush said in the Oval Office. "The situation now taking place in Gaza was caused by Hamas winning an election."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 01/05/2009

No, it was caused by Hamas shooting rockets into Israel

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 01/05/2009
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 01/05/2009
- ftc I'm a Fan of ftc 4 fans permalink

And how do you know he's not carrying him away from incoming!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 01/05/2009
- SMCUVS I'm a Fan of SMCUVS 2 fans permalink

Because nobody else is running away. Besides he grabbed that kid from some other adult--probably his dad. Face it. These guys are using the kids as human shields. You cannot spin this any other way. The whole world should see this clip. All the protesters should see this clip. Who knows......That little kid might be one ot their relatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 01/05/2009
- Petunia39 I'm a Fan of Petunia39 5 fans permalink

Some people standing in one spot, others standing in another, then some kids on the ground, then one dude picks up a kid like a bird of prey would pick up its prey (very weird) and moves him to another section... maybe they were picking soccer teams. With 1.5 mil living in an area the size of Washington D.C., lots of civilians are going to die. Maybe Israel should open its shelters to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 01/05/2009
- bluemike I'm a Fan of bluemike 5 fans permalink
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A corrupt, discredited president backed by another discredited president send Isra+++++eli troops into their second invasion in two years. How sad for all concerned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 01/05/2009
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Israel has every right to protect themselves, the Palestinians don't. Why don't they just
accept the occupation... occupation is good. Exactly what's needed in the US; roadblocks,
checkpoints, confiscation of property. Utopia. There's nothing better. Leave Israel alone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 01/05/2009
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Ya, and furthermore if apartheid was good enough for those folks in Africa then why are those Pals complaining so much! What? Aprartheid is bad? Oh, just ignore!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 01/05/2009
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True that, The palestinians are an ungrateful people. If not for Israel they
would probably be living in squalid refugee camps without any hope.
I wish I had it as good as them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 01/05/2009
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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Please do try to inform yourself a little before posting your chauvinistic prejudices and BIASED moral judgments.

Try:
The Library of Congress:
A Country Study: Israel
http://memory.loc.gov/frd/cs/iltoc.html#il0023

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 01/05/2009
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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the Palestinians has every right to protect themselves, even as does Israel.

They both have the right to wage W A R, or to sue for PEACE. They both have the right to retaliate, to escalate and to klll.

Generally the losing side sues for PEACE. The P_alestinians are instead suing for public opinion among the world's far leftists and are continuing a w a r of attrition and nihilism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 01/05/2009
- Ronju01 I'm a Fan of Ronju01 11 fans permalink
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Who is paying for all this? If it's US tax payers, shouldn't the money be well spent for economic recovery? May be US should ask some loan from Israel as their economy seems to be doing ok.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 01/05/2009
- ftc I'm a Fan of ftc 4 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 01/05/2009
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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Far left p_ropaganda that does not address the daily acts of w_arfare that Hamas has perpetuated on the J_ewish state that Hamas is sworn to destroy.

Hamas has loudly and repeatedly proclaimed that they will not recognize the J_ewish state even if Isreal withdrew to the 1967 borders.

How doe that position improve the PEACE of the region and how does that policy improve the lives of the P_alestinians?

Please seek out some un-BIASED sources

Try:
The Library of Congress:
A Country Study: Israel
http://memory.loc.gov/frd/cs/iltoc.html#il0023

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 01/05/2009
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 01/05/2009
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